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Old January 21st, 2004, 04:19 PM
Diarmid Logan
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3416637.stm

Uncovering the Atkins diet secret

The controversial and popular Atkins diet works for reasons that Dr
Atkins may not have fully understood, the BBC 2 programme Horizon has
discovered.

Through a series of scientific experiments the programme shows that
although the diet allows people all the fat and protein they want,
they actually eat as few calories as people on low fat diets.

And the reason for this, according to recent research is because the
quantity of protein the regime encourages, acts like an appetite
suppressant.

The meat, fish and eggs in the Atkins diet control hunger and stop
people eating their usual quantity of calories.

The theory behind Dr Atkins' diet is that by cutting down on starchy
foods like potatoes, bread and pasta and eating mainly protein and
fats like meat, eggs and cheese you can eat as much as you want and
still lose weight.

Dr Atkins even said there was no need to worry about calories.

The idea that people could gorge on as many calories as they desire
and still lose the pounds brought Dr Atkins much criticism and even
prompted some scientists to call his diet "scientific heresy".

Horizon teamed up with the University of Kansas and commissioned a
scientific investigation to test Dr Atkins' most controversial theory.

This states that on his diet you actually burn more calories than
usual - allowing you to lose more weight.

Dr Atkins had two ideas about where the extra calories were going.
Firstly, he believed you burn more calories when your body uses fats
and proteins as fuel.

If this is true, says Dr Mary Vernon, of the Atkins Physician Council,
it makes exercise less important than usual.

"You wouldn't have to increase your exercise at all because your body
would be working harder, so that you could literally sit in your
armchair and lose weight."

Dr Atkins also believed that on his diet you lose unused calories by
peeing them away, as part of a process known as ketosis, which happens
when you stop eating starchy foods and sugar.

In Horizon's investigation identical twins were put on different
diets, one on the Atkins diet and one on a conventional low fat diet.
Each was fed identical amounts of calories for two weeks.

The twins were then locked inside a sealed chamber so that Professor
Joseph Donnelly could calculate how quickly their bodies were burning
calories.

Over 24 hours the twin on the Atkins diet did lose more calories than
the twin on low fat, but only 22.

Professor Donnelly even checked the twins' urine for calories and
found that the Atkins dieter had lost less than a single calorie more
than his brother on low fat.

Donnelly concluded that: "the differences were too small to suggest
there's anything significant going on".

Even though this research is at an early stage, there is little
evidence for Dr Atkins' wasted calorie theories.

Horizon examines other studies that reveal the real reason scientists
believe the Atkins diet is effective.

New results from research conducted on the popular BBC series 'Diet
Trials' offer the first clue.

The study examined the Atkins diet and three low fat, low calorie
diets.

All four diets worked, but Dr Joe Millward at the University of Surrey
who headed up the research, discovered the secret to why Atkins
dieters were losing weight.

"The Atkins dieters were eating less calories, in exactly the same way
as those going to the slimming clubs on their low fat diets."

Without apparently trying, people on the Atkins diet were eating less
than they would normally.

Scientists are now more interested than ever in what makes us eat
less. They have concluded that there is something about the Atkins
diet that controls hunger.

Research has shown that fat is the least filling food. But new work in
Denmark is showing exactly what kinds of food may control hunger.

Professor Arne Astrup, from the Royal Veterinary & Agricultural
University in Copenhagen, built a supermarket for a special study to
find the secret of appetite control.

Professor Astrup's study focused on being able to eat as much as you
want.

He put one group of shoppers on a high protein diet and one on a high
carbohydrate diet.

He was surprised to find that the people eating more protein lost
significantly more weight.

"The reason they lost more weight was because they consumed fewer
calories, despite the fact they had free access to all the food they
wanted."

Increasing the amount of meat, fish and eggs in the diet may not only
be the answer to our hunger pangs, but the secret to how the Atkins
diet works.

Perhaps without realising it, Dr Atkins stumbled across the secret of
appetite control, by discovering a high protein diet.

The programme also investigates whether or not the Atkins diet is
dangerous.

With no long term studies on the diet, any possible health risks of
the diet are, so far, unproven.

Horizon: The Atkins Diet will be shown Thursday January 22nd at 9pm on
BBC2.
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Old January 21st, 2004, 07:14 PM
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Default Uncovering the Atkins diet secret -Interesting

Thanks for the informative post.

I wonder how long it will take for the special to be aired in the US?


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Old January 21st, 2004, 07:55 PM
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I think it has a little to do with seeing results.
I have not seen the dramatic results in anyone
that was on a low fat diet that I have witnessed on
a low carb diet. Results equal pride and thus people
would eat less to try to add fuel to the fire.
I do think watching calories and fat intake is a
good thing to do once someone is over the hump and
steady on the diet.
I lost 65 pounds eating pretty freely and not exercising. What
I did not do was keep it off. I went back into old habits and
still didnt exercise. The key to losing the weight and keeping
it off is 100% realization that we will have to struggle and
watch the scales for ever. Some people are blessed with
bodies that allow them to eat anything but others are not. I think
now with this go around I finally understand what I need to do and
its a life long process not just a year or so diet.
However LC diets work-- they work.

"Diarmid Logan" wrote in message
om...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3416637.stm

Uncovering the Atkins diet secret

The controversial and popular Atkins diet works for reasons that Dr
Atkins may not have fully understood, the BBC 2 programme Horizon has
discovered.

Through a series of scientific experiments the programme shows that
although the diet allows people all the fat and protein they want,
they actually eat as few calories as people on low fat diets.

And the reason for this, according to recent research is because the
quantity of protein the regime encourages, acts like an appetite
suppressant.

The meat, fish and eggs in the Atkins diet control hunger and stop
people eating their usual quantity of calories.

The theory behind Dr Atkins' diet is that by cutting down on starchy
foods like potatoes, bread and pasta and eating mainly protein and
fats like meat, eggs and cheese you can eat as much as you want and
still lose weight.

Dr Atkins even said there was no need to worry about calories.

The idea that people could gorge on as many calories as they desire
and still lose the pounds brought Dr Atkins much criticism and even
prompted some scientists to call his diet "scientific heresy".

Horizon teamed up with the University of Kansas and commissioned a
scientific investigation to test Dr Atkins' most controversial theory.

This states that on his diet you actually burn more calories than
usual - allowing you to lose more weight.

Dr Atkins had two ideas about where the extra calories were going.
Firstly, he believed you burn more calories when your body uses fats
and proteins as fuel.

If this is true, says Dr Mary Vernon, of the Atkins Physician Council,
it makes exercise less important than usual.

"You wouldn't have to increase your exercise at all because your body
would be working harder, so that you could literally sit in your
armchair and lose weight."

Dr Atkins also believed that on his diet you lose unused calories by
peeing them away, as part of a process known as ketosis, which happens
when you stop eating starchy foods and sugar.

In Horizon's investigation identical twins were put on different
diets, one on the Atkins diet and one on a conventional low fat diet.
Each was fed identical amounts of calories for two weeks.

The twins were then locked inside a sealed chamber so that Professor
Joseph Donnelly could calculate how quickly their bodies were burning
calories.

Over 24 hours the twin on the Atkins diet did lose more calories than
the twin on low fat, but only 22.

Professor Donnelly even checked the twins' urine for calories and
found that the Atkins dieter had lost less than a single calorie more
than his brother on low fat.

Donnelly concluded that: "the differences were too small to suggest
there's anything significant going on".

Even though this research is at an early stage, there is little
evidence for Dr Atkins' wasted calorie theories.

Horizon examines other studies that reveal the real reason scientists
believe the Atkins diet is effective.

New results from research conducted on the popular BBC series 'Diet
Trials' offer the first clue.

The study examined the Atkins diet and three low fat, low calorie
diets.

All four diets worked, but Dr Joe Millward at the University of Surrey
who headed up the research, discovered the secret to why Atkins
dieters were losing weight.

"The Atkins dieters were eating less calories, in exactly the same way
as those going to the slimming clubs on their low fat diets."

Without apparently trying, people on the Atkins diet were eating less
than they would normally.

Scientists are now more interested than ever in what makes us eat
less. They have concluded that there is something about the Atkins
diet that controls hunger.

Research has shown that fat is the least filling food. But new work in
Denmark is showing exactly what kinds of food may control hunger.

Professor Arne Astrup, from the Royal Veterinary & Agricultural
University in Copenhagen, built a supermarket for a special study to
find the secret of appetite control.

Professor Astrup's study focused on being able to eat as much as you
want.

He put one group of shoppers on a high protein diet and one on a high
carbohydrate diet.

He was surprised to find that the people eating more protein lost
significantly more weight.

"The reason they lost more weight was because they consumed fewer
calories, despite the fact they had free access to all the food they
wanted."

Increasing the amount of meat, fish and eggs in the diet may not only
be the answer to our hunger pangs, but the secret to how the Atkins
diet works.

Perhaps without realising it, Dr Atkins stumbled across the secret of
appetite control, by discovering a high protein diet.

The programme also investigates whether or not the Atkins diet is
dangerous.

With no long term studies on the diet, any possible health risks of
the diet are, so far, unproven.

Horizon: The Atkins Diet will be shown Thursday January 22nd at 9pm on
BBC2.



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Old January 22nd, 2004, 12:50 AM
billydee
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"Frank Howe" wrote in message ...
I think it has a little to do with seeing results.
I have not seen the dramatic results in anyone
that was on a low fat diet that I have witnessed on
a low carb diet. Results equal pride and thus people
would eat less to try to add fuel to the fire.
I do think watching calories and fat intake is a
good thing to do once someone is over the hump and
steady on the diet.
I lost 65 pounds eating pretty freely and not exercising. What
I did not do was keep it off. I went back into old habits and
still didnt exercise. The key to losing the weight and keeping
it off is 100% realization that we will have to struggle and
watch the scales for ever. Some people are blessed with
bodies that allow them to eat anything but others are not. I think
now with this go around I finally understand what I need to do and
its a life long process not just a year or so diet.
However LC diets work-- they work.


Bull. You said yourself you didn't exercise and you overate as soon as
you lost some initial weight. Genetics has some to do with it, but
unless you are exercising regularly and not stuffing your face with
crap you can't blame your weight problem on genetics. It is the
biggest copout going. You really think that those thin people you see
on the street can eat anything they want? I bet a vast majority of
them work their butts off in the gym and watch what they eat closer
that most.
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Old January 22nd, 2004, 01:49 AM
Frank Howe
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Billydee,
I never said that I blamed genetics or anyone other than myself.
What I did say was that as I came off of the LC meals I did nothing
to stop myself from gaining weight. It was me not the diet. I was
and am overweight for overeating plain and simple.
I dont understand were you are calling bull.
I do know people that eat a ton and are not overweight or too much
overweight.
Only one that I think of works out at all and a few make jokes about
how much they can eat.
I played football for years and I have known
quite a few guys that ate tons of calories and had trouble gaining
weight. I think as they get older then that may change.
I was not referring to all thin people. I agree that most probably do
work hard and eat nothing very little to stay thin.
I never have and never will blame MY weight on genetics.
My mainpoint was that with this diet I see more results quickly
than with others and this I think contributes to people being
more open to eating less and exercising more.
good luck with your weight loss
frank

"billydee" wrote in message
om...
"Frank Howe" wrote in message

...
I think it has a little to do with seeing results.
I have not seen the dramatic results in anyone
that was on a low fat diet that I have witnessed on
a low carb diet. Results equal pride and thus people
would eat less to try to add fuel to the fire.
I do think watching calories and fat intake is a
good thing to do once someone is over the hump and
steady on the diet.
I lost 65 pounds eating pretty freely and not exercising. What
I did not do was keep it off. I went back into old habits and
still didnt exercise. The key to losing the weight and keeping
it off is 100% realization that we will have to struggle and
watch the scales for ever. Some people are blessed with
bodies that allow them to eat anything but others are not. I think
now with this go around I finally understand what I need to do and
its a life long process not just a year or so diet.
However LC diets work-- they work.


Bull. You said yourself you didn't exercise and you overate as soon as
you lost some initial weight. Genetics has some to do with it, but
unless you are exercising regularly and not stuffing your face with
crap you can't blame your weight problem on genetics. It is the
biggest copout going. You really think that those thin people you see
on the street can eat anything they want? I bet a vast majority of
them work their butts off in the gym and watch what they eat closer
that most.



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Old January 22nd, 2004, 03:00 PM
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In article ,
says...
Through a series of scientific experiments the programme shows that
although the diet allows people all the fat and protein they want,
they actually eat as few calories as people on low fat diets.

Actually even in the book (DANDR) the satiating effects of fat are
mentioned in several palaces.


sigh It's hard for people to get over the "eat less fat = good" mentality.
Someday maybe...

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 265/236/140
& hubby- 310/264/180
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Old January 22nd, 2004, 04:31 PM
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(Diarmid Logan) wrote in message . com...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3416637.stm

Uncovering the Atkins diet secret

The controversial and popular Atkins diet works for reasons that Dr
Atkins may not have fully understood, the BBC 2 programme Horizon has
discovered.

Through a series of scientific experiments the programme shows that
although the diet allows people all the fat and protein they want,
they actually eat as few calories as people on low fat diets.

And the reason for this, according to recent research is because the
quantity of protein the regime encourages, acts like an appetite
suppressant.

The meat, fish and eggs in the Atkins diet control hunger and stop
people eating their usual quantity of calories.

The theory behind Dr Atkins' diet is that by cutting down on starchy
foods like potatoes, bread and pasta and eating mainly protein and
fats like meat, eggs and cheese you can eat as much as you want and
still lose weight.

Dr Atkins even said there was no need to worry about calories.

The idea that people could gorge on as many calories as they desire
and still lose the pounds brought Dr Atkins much criticism and even
prompted some scientists to call his diet "scientific heresy".

Horizon teamed up with the University of Kansas and commissioned a
scientific investigation to test Dr Atkins' most controversial theory.

This states that on his diet you actually burn more calories than
usual - allowing you to lose more weight.

Dr Atkins had two ideas about where the extra calories were going.
Firstly, he believed you burn more calories when your body uses fats
and proteins as fuel.

If this is true, says Dr Mary Vernon, of the Atkins Physician Council,
it makes exercise less important than usual.

"You wouldn't have to increase your exercise at all because your body
would be working harder, so that you could literally sit in your
armchair and lose weight."

Dr Atkins also believed that on his diet you lose unused calories by
peeing them away, as part of a process known as ketosis, which happens
when you stop eating starchy foods and sugar.

In Horizon's investigation identical twins were put on different
diets, one on the Atkins diet and one on a conventional low fat diet.
Each was fed identical amounts of calories for two weeks.

The twins were then locked inside a sealed chamber so that Professor
Joseph Donnelly could calculate how quickly their bodies were burning
calories.

Over 24 hours the twin on the Atkins diet did lose more calories than
the twin on low fat, but only 22.

Professor Donnelly even checked the twins' urine for calories and
found that the Atkins dieter had lost less than a single calorie more
than his brother on low fat.

Donnelly concluded that: "the differences were too small to suggest
there's anything significant going on".

Even though this research is at an early stage, there is little
evidence for Dr Atkins' wasted calorie theories.

Horizon examines other studies that reveal the real reason scientists
believe the Atkins diet is effective.

New results from research conducted on the popular BBC series 'Diet
Trials' offer the first clue.

The study examined the Atkins diet and three low fat, low calorie
diets.

All four diets worked, but Dr Joe Millward at the University of Surrey
who headed up the research, discovered the secret to why Atkins
dieters were losing weight.

"The Atkins dieters were eating less calories, in exactly the same way
as those going to the slimming clubs on their low fat diets."

Without apparently trying, people on the Atkins diet were eating less
than they would normally.

Scientists are now more interested than ever in what makes us eat
less. They have concluded that there is something about the Atkins
diet that controls hunger.

Research has shown that fat is the least filling food. But new work in
Denmark is showing exactly what kinds of food may control hunger.

Professor Arne Astrup, from the Royal Veterinary & Agricultural
University in Copenhagen, built a supermarket for a special study to
find the secret of appetite control.

Professor Astrup's study focused on being able to eat as much as you
want.

He put one group of shoppers on a high protein diet and one on a high
carbohydrate diet.

He was surprised to find that the people eating more protein lost
significantly more weight.

"The reason they lost more weight was because they consumed fewer
calories, despite the fact they had free access to all the food they
wanted."

Increasing the amount of meat, fish and eggs in the diet may not only
be the answer to our hunger pangs, but the secret to how the Atkins
diet works.

Perhaps without realising it, Dr Atkins stumbled across the secret of
appetite control, by discovering a high protein diet.

The programme also investigates whether or not the Atkins diet is
dangerous.

With no long term studies on the diet, any possible health risks of
the diet are, so far, unproven.

Horizon: The Atkins Diet will be shown Thursday January 22nd at 9pm on
BBC2.


Maybe the lesson to be learned is that calories really have little
bearing when it comes to weight gain or loss in humans.

TC
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Old January 22nd, 2004, 04:37 PM
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On 1/22/2004 10:31 AM, tcomeau wrote:
(Diarmid Logan) wrote in message . com...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3416637.stm
Through a series of scientific experiments the programme shows that
although the diet allows people all the fat and protein they want,
they actually eat as few calories as people on low fat diets.



Maybe the lesson to be learned is that calories really have little
bearing when it comes to weight gain or loss in humans.

TC


Or that eating fewer calories than you spend causes weight loss?

--
jmk in NC

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Old January 22nd, 2004, 05:45 PM
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On 22 Jan 2004 07:31:39 -0800, (tcomeau) wrote:

Maybe the lesson to be learned is that calories really have little
bearing when it comes to weight gain or loss in humans.


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