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Old March 30th, 2005, 05:38 AM
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Hi. This is embarrassing, so please bear with me.

My situation is this: I've been restricting bad carbs like processed
flour products, bread, crackers, cheetos, and pasta. I jog 3.5 miles 5x
a week. As a result I've lost about 25 pounds and I look and feel
fantastic.

HOWEVER. If I occaisionally splurge on a bag of chex mix from the
vending machine at work I almost IMMEDIATELY get a yeast infection.

What's the deal?! I don't ever remember being so sensitive back when I
was carbing it up like crazy. What to do? Would it be smart to have a
salad or something right away at the first sign of a YI? What can you
eat as an antidote to a YI? Whatever it is I'll add it to my diet right
away.

Thanks for any insight

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Old March 30th, 2005, 06:02 AM
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Thank you for that insight, JC. Please allow me to clarify my post:

I've been generally restricting bad carbs such as chex mix, but I
occaisionally indulge (maybe once or twice a month). I've found that on
those rare occaisions that I do indulge and eat bad carbs I get a YI.
Whereas, I used to eat those foods in large quantities and don't ever
recall having this problem.

NB: the chex mix in the vending machine is a single serving, btw, not a
full size bag.

So, now that we have that all cleared up, can anyone recommend a food
that will help balance out my system if I occaisionally fall off the
low carb wagon?

Does anyone see a reason for this? Have I developed a sensitivity and
if so do you think it's related to a LC diet?

For those of you who think you're being trolled, I did create a new
posting addy because I don't want to discuss YIs under my regular name.
Not that there's any shame, but ... okay, I guess there might be a tiny
bit of shame. Sheesh!

Thanks for any insight. And if you're kind enough to reply can you also
tell me why this group has a tendency to be so paranoid about being
trolled? Are trolls really that big of a problem?

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Old March 30th, 2005, 07:30 AM
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Here's my take on it. You possibly USED to have a 'background'
low-level yeast infection. Low-level, so you never *really* noticed
it. Now, since you eat LC, you're mostly 'clean'. When you don't eat
'junk carbs' you're not feeding the infection and NOW you feel really
well, nearly all the time.

When you eat your once-or-twice a month snack of Chex Mix, you're
re-feeding the last few of the Yeastie-Beasties that you've been
slowly starving away. And they reward you for the Feast by growing
back fast.

Soooooo. First off, try avoiding this snack for at least 2 - 3
months. More if you can stand it. Give your body a good chance to
kill off the last of the hidden infestation. You really don't *need*
to eat this kind of empty carb, it's just become a habit with you -
and while it might not seem (on the surface) that a small carb-hit
every couple of weeks will hurt, it obviously *is* hurting you right
now. If it wasn't then you wouldn't be getting this infection every
time you eat the mix.

Secondly, eat live-culture yoghurt (or other cultured dairy product
such as kefir) several times a week. Make sure it's NOT a high-sugar
variety. Plain, natural yoghurt, which you can spice up with a few
berries, some vanilla, some cinnamon or whatever else (LC) that takes
your fancy. My personal fave is a combo of cinnamon, vanilla and
almonds.

The cultures in the yoghurt will tend to replenish the good bacteria
in your gut which helps protect against yeastie-beasties. If you
can't stomach natural yoghurt (or you want to avoid the carbs - even
though there's not a lot of carbs in unsweetened natural yoghurt
because they are the Food Of Choice for the bacteria) then try some
acidophilus supplements.

Aramanth
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Old March 30th, 2005, 01:29 PM
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Very interesting. I used to get recurrent yeast infections too and never
considered that my high-carb lifestyle had anything to do with it.
I started eating yogurt and taking probiotic supplements to help with
digestive problems, but they've likely also helped with the infections. I
eat 1/2 cup plain organic yogurt daily and take probiotic supplements (2
billion/tablet twice per day on an empty stomach one hour before meals) and
haven't had one in more than a year. Just make sure that whichever
supplement you choose has a delivery system that can withstand the acids
produced in the stomach. I use FloraSMART by Renew Life. Other good ones
are Primal Defense and Probiotic Pearls. I like these brands because they
don't have to be refrigerated so I can keep some in my purse for those
occasions when I won't be home for dinner.

on Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:00:14 +0930, Aramanth Dawe
wrote:

Here's my take on it. You possibly USED to have a 'background'
low-level yeast infection. Low-level, so you never *really* noticed
it. Now, since you eat LC, you're mostly 'clean'. When you don't eat
'junk carbs' you're not feeding the infection and NOW you feel really
well, nearly all the time.

When you eat your once-or-twice a month snack of Chex Mix, you're
re-feeding the last few of the Yeastie-Beasties that you've been
slowly starving away. And they reward you for the Feast by growing
back fast.

Soooooo. First off, try avoiding this snack for at least 2 - 3
months. More if you can stand it. Give your body a good chance to
kill off the last of the hidden infestation. You really don't *need*
to eat this kind of empty carb, it's just become a habit with you -
and while it might not seem (on the surface) that a small carb-hit
every couple of weeks will hurt, it obviously *is* hurting you right
now. If it wasn't then you wouldn't be getting this infection every
time you eat the mix.

Secondly, eat live-culture yoghurt (or other cultured dairy product
such as kefir) several times a week. Make sure it's NOT a high-sugar
variety. Plain, natural yoghurt, which you can spice up with a few
berries, some vanilla, some cinnamon or whatever else (LC) that takes
your fancy. My personal fave is a combo of cinnamon, vanilla and
almonds.

The cultures in the yoghurt will tend to replenish the good bacteria
in your gut which helps protect against yeastie-beasties. If you
can't stomach natural yoghurt (or you want to avoid the carbs - even
though there's not a lot of carbs in unsweetened natural yoghurt
because they are the Food Of Choice for the bacteria) then try some
acidophilus supplements.


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Bev
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Old March 30th, 2005, 06:51 PM
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Thank you for a super informative, thoughtful post!

I'll definitely cut out the chex mix. It's the one snack that's most
easily identifiable as a contributing factor, and therefore very easily
avoidable now that I know the consequences.

I'll also add yogurt and kefir in small quantities on a daily basis.
I'm not afraid of these carbs and I don't consider them empty or bad.
Quite the contrary. The way I see it, not eating bad carbs daily makes
room in my calorie allowance for these healthy, nutritious, good carbs.


Many thanks!



Aramanth Dawe wrote:
Here's my take on it. You possibly USED to have a 'background'
low-level yeast infection. Low-level, so you never *really* noticed
it. Now, since you eat LC, you're mostly 'clean'. When you don't

eat
'junk carbs' you're not feeding the infection and NOW you feel really
well, nearly all the time.

When you eat your once-or-twice a month snack of Chex Mix, you're
re-feeding the last few of the Yeastie-Beasties that you've been
slowly starving away. And they reward you for the Feast by growing
back fast.

Soooooo. First off, try avoiding this snack for at least 2 - 3
months. More if you can stand it. Give your body a good chance to
kill off the last of the hidden infestation. You really don't *need*
to eat this kind of empty carb, it's just become a habit with you -
and while it might not seem (on the surface) that a small carb-hit
every couple of weeks will hurt, it obviously *is* hurting you right
now. If it wasn't then you wouldn't be getting this infection every
time you eat the mix.

Secondly, eat live-culture yoghurt (or other cultured dairy product
such as kefir) several times a week. Make sure it's NOT a high-sugar
variety. Plain, natural yoghurt, which you can spice up with a few
berries, some vanilla, some cinnamon or whatever else (LC) that takes
your fancy. My personal fave is a combo of cinnamon, vanilla and
almonds.

The cultures in the yoghurt will tend to replenish the good bacteria
in your gut which helps protect against yeastie-beasties. If you
can't stomach natural yoghurt (or you want to avoid the carbs - even
though there's not a lot of carbs in unsweetened natural yoghurt
because they are the Food Of Choice for the bacteria) then try some
acidophilus supplements.

Aramanth


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Old March 31st, 2005, 05:14 AM
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I'll also add yogurt and kefir in small quantities on a daily basis.
I'm not afraid of these carbs and I don't consider them empty or bad.
Quite the contrary. The way I see it, not eating bad carbs daily makes
room in my calorie allowance for these healthy, nutritious, good carbs.


if you get kefir grains and make your one it is real easy to do and far better
for you. plus you can make it low carb too.

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Old March 31st, 2005, 08:24 PM
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So, now that we have that all cleared up, can anyone recommend a food
that will help balance out my system if I occaisionally fall off the
low carb wagon?

Does anyone see a reason for this? Have I developed a sensitivity and
if so do you think it's related to a LC diet?



Is it possible you are diabetic and don't know it because you are on low
carb? Yeast thrives on sugar. You might try eating yogurt with active
cultures, plain yogurt not the sweetened/flavored kind.

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