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  #21  
Old March 6th, 2005, 03:50 AM
Carmen
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Hi,
On 5-Mar-2005, "JC Der Koenig" wrote:

Hey fatty, muffins and cake are not low carb, and I'm not posting
from Prodigy.


Southwestern Bell is part of SBC. SBC uses Prodigy for its 'net
services so you post through Prodigy. That's why it says all that
stuff about Prodigy in your headers. I'm curious: Why'd you think it
said to send abuse complaints to " and said the news
server was named some flavor of "news.prodigy.com" in your headers?

Sleep deprived and mean blonde,
AKA Carmen

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  #22  
Old March 6th, 2005, 04:15 AM
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You are, in point of fact, posting through Prodigy. Your posts go
through Prodigy's news servers to port to usenet.

I'll put it this way just for you:
JC posts *through* Prodigy.

Now you should be happy.

Crank-o-blonde,
Carmen

On 5-Mar-2005, "JC Der Koenig" wrote:

So you believe that posting from Prodigy means the same as SBC runs
its posts through Prodigy?

Through and from are not the same.

HTH

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Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that.
-- MFW


"Carmen" wrote in message
...
Hi,
On 5-Mar-2005, "JC Der Koenig" wrote:

Hey fatty, muffins and cake are not low carb, and I'm not posting
from Prodigy.


Southwestern Bell is part of SBC. SBC uses Prodigy for its 'net
services so you post through Prodigy. That's why it says all
that
stuff about Prodigy in your headers. I'm curious: Why'd you think
it
said to send abuse complaints to " and said the
news
server was named some flavor of "news.prodigy.com" in your
headers?

Sleep deprived and mean blonde,
AKA Carmen

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Please note change in Reply To address carmensrt at gmail dot
com
Hotmail isn't working and is being abandoned




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  #23  
Old March 6th, 2005, 04:37 AM
Luna
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In article ,
Myra wrote:

On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 19:17:34 GMT, "JC Der Koenig"
wrote:

Muffins and cake are not low carb.


They are when *I* make them using *my* recipes. Go run the
ingredients through the USDA nutrient database and add up the carbs.
Assuming you can add, of course.


JC's arguing semantics, not nutrition. In his book, if you call it a
muffin, it's carby, and if it's not carby, it's not really a muffin.
I've tried to teach him that the names of foods aren't what make you
fat, but he doesn't get it.

It's much more important to pay attention to ingredients than to names.
For instance, I once almost bought egg salad from a grocery store deli,
thinking that "egg salad" is low-carb. But I read the ingredients and
saw corn syrup on the list, which definitely is not low-carb.

I'm a bit worried about JC's focus on food names instead of food
composition. He could be in for some surprises if anyone offers him
lady's fingers, ants on a log, or Rocky Mountain oysters.
  #24  
Old March 6th, 2005, 05:14 AM
Myra
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On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 04:20:15 GMT, Perdu
wrote:

Is there anyone at all that you can just leave alone?


Feel free to send your complaints about this person to:



Remember to include full headers - it always helps.

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Old March 6th, 2005, 07:20 AM
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"Luna" wrote in message news:lunachick-|
| I'm a bit worried about JC's focus on food names instead of food
| composition. He could be in for some surprises if anyone offers him
| lady's fingers, ants on a log, or Rocky Mountain oysters.

Or how about a hot dog, an elephant ear, or pigs in a blanket?
Heh..

Peter


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Old March 6th, 2005, 02:53 PM
Luna
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In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

"Luna" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Myra wrote:

On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 19:17:34 GMT, "JC Der Koenig"
wrote:

Muffins and cake are not low carb.

They are when *I* make them using *my* recipes. Go run the
ingredients through the USDA nutrient database and add up the carbs.
Assuming you can add, of course.


JC's arguing semantics, not nutrition. In his book, if you call it a
muffin, it's carby, and if it's not carby, it's not really a muffin.
I've tried to teach him that the names of foods aren't what make you
fat, but he doesn't get it.

It's much more important to pay attention to ingredients than to names.
For instance, I once almost bought egg salad from a grocery store deli,
thinking that "egg salad" is low-carb. But I read the ingredients and
saw corn syrup on the list, which definitely is not low-carb.

I'm a bit worried about JC's focus on food names instead of food
composition. He could be in for some surprises if anyone offers him
lady's fingers, ants on a log, or Rocky Mountain oysters.


Heh.

So let's start focusing on healthy bodyfat as a percentage and how to get
there.

Here's a hint: eating a bunch of substitutes instead of embracing a true
low carb lifestyle, is not going to help.

How many handfuls of blubber can you grab on your thighs or gut?


Eating a bunch of _anything_ isn't going to help. Eating small portions
of "pure" low-carb foods is the best option. Meats, low-carb
vegetables, low-carb dairy.

Finding low-carb substitutes for high-carb foods, using all "pure"
low-carb ingredients, doesn't make a difference at all. Spinach and
cheese instead of macaroni and cheese, for instance. Your body doesn't
care that you're substituting spinach for pasta. Calling mashed
cauliflower "fauxtatoes" doesn't somehow magically make it have more
carbs or calories, just because the word is partially derived from
"potatoes." Baking slices of cheese until they're crispy and calling
them "chips" doesn't change their carb content.

Where we need to be careful is in eating these subsitutes in the same
portions that we did when we ate the carby counterparts. Fortunately in
my case, I find that nearly impossible, since in the abscence of carbs,
the low-carb versions are so much more filling. I can't eat nearly the
calories worth of "cheese chips" as I could of potato chips.
  #28  
Old March 6th, 2005, 03:12 PM
Jeri
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Myra wrote:
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 19:17:34 GMT, "JC Der Koenig"
wrote:

Muffins and cake are not low carb.


They are when *I* make them using *my* recipes. Go run the
ingredients through the USDA nutrient database and add up the carbs.
Assuming you can add, of course.


JC is basically the group's idiot savant.
He's just not capable of understanding that words don't have calories,
carbs, fat, protein, or even fiber.


  #29  
Old March 6th, 2005, 03:26 PM
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In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

"Luna" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

"Luna" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Myra wrote:

On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 19:17:34 GMT, "JC Der Koenig"
wrote:

Muffins and cake are not low carb.

They are when *I* make them using *my* recipes. Go run the
ingredients through the USDA nutrient database and add up the carbs.
Assuming you can add, of course.


JC's arguing semantics, not nutrition. In his book, if you call it a
muffin, it's carby, and if it's not carby, it's not really a muffin.
I've tried to teach him that the names of foods aren't what make you
fat, but he doesn't get it.

It's much more important to pay attention to ingredients than to names.
For instance, I once almost bought egg salad from a grocery store deli,
thinking that "egg salad" is low-carb. But I read the ingredients and
saw corn syrup on the list, which definitely is not low-carb.

I'm a bit worried about JC's focus on food names instead of food
composition. He could be in for some surprises if anyone offers him
lady's fingers, ants on a log, or Rocky Mountain oysters.

Heh.

So let's start focusing on healthy bodyfat as a percentage and how to get
there.

Here's a hint: eating a bunch of substitutes instead of embracing a true
low carb lifestyle, is not going to help.

How many handfuls of blubber can you grab on your thighs or gut?


Eating a bunch of _anything_ isn't going to help. Eating small portions
of "pure" low-carb foods is the best option. Meats, low-carb
vegetables, low-carb dairy.

Finding low-carb substitutes for high-carb foods, using all "pure"
low-carb ingredients, doesn't make a difference at all.


That's what you think, but it's nowhere near the truth.

Mindset is important.



Wow! You've just come up with a cure for starving people all over the
world! It's just their mindset they need to change. If they simply
imagine that their one bite of rice is really a five course meal, then
they won't starve to death!
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Old March 6th, 2005, 03:39 PM
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JC Der Koenig wrote:
I'm capable of understanding why you're still fat, whereas you don't
seem to have that ability.


LOL
As I said.....idiot savant.


 




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