Question for JC body fat....

In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

How do you know that you have 30% bodyfat? However you came to that
conclusion, do that again regularly until you get down to 20% bodyfat.
Unless you are just guessing. In that case, find another way to calculate
your bodyfat.

Are there any methods you would suggest for estimating bodyfat at home,
that don't use specialized equipment?

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Chris Smolinski
Black Cat Systems
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Chris Smolinski wrote:
In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

How do you know that you have 30% bodyfat? However you came to
that
conclusion, do that again regularly until you get down to 20%
bodyfat.
Unless you are just guessing. In that case, find another way to
calculate
your bodyfat.

Are there any methods you would suggest for estimating bodyfat at
home,
that don't use specialized equipment?

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Chris Smolinski
Black Cat Systems
http://www.blackcatsystems.com

Bodyfat calipers are inexpensive and while not highly accurate, will
produce decent ball-park results. Just remember to pinch until it
hurts.

"Chris Smolinski" wrote in message
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Are there any methods you would suggest for estimating bodyfat at home,
that don't use specialized equipment?

The folks at Duke University Wellness Center told me that the gold standard
is the water immersion test, second best is the skinfold test done by an
experienced person and that impedence machines are least accurate. I have
my trainer use the skinfold test every few months and I think that the
consistency this gives makes the result a useful measure. Whether it is
absolutely accurate or not isn't that important to me.

"Chris Smolinski" wrote in message
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In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

How do you know that you have 30% bodyfat? However you came to that
conclusion, do that again regularly until you get down to 20% bodyfat.
Unless you are just guessing. In that case, find another way to
calculate
your bodyfat.

Are there any methods you would suggest for estimating bodyfat at home,
that don't use specialized equipment?

The "Navy" method uses simple body circumference measurements that you can
take using a fabric tape measure. It's reasonably accurate for most adults
(the Dept. of Defense uses this method in their personnel fitness
evaluations).

An online version of the Navy method can be found he
http://www.he.net/%7Ezone/prothd2.html (just ignore their odd
recommendations for "Ideal Weight" - that has nothing to do with the Navy
method for estimating body fat percentage).

I've also included the Navy method in my WeightWare program
(www.WeightWare.com), along with the ability to track changes in your body
fat percentage over time.

GG
http://www.WeightWare.com
Your Weight and Health Diary

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Chris Smolinski
Black Cat Systems
http://www.blackcatsystems.com

Chris Smolinski wrote:

In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:


How do you know that you have 30% bodyfat? However you came to that
conclusion, do that again regularly until you get down to 20% bodyfat.
Unless you are just guessing. In that case, find another way to calculate
your bodyfat.


Are there any methods you would suggest for estimating bodyfat at home,
that don't use specialized equipment?


Slim Guide calipers are fairly cheap (around $20.00) and are a
reasonable option. Get spring-loaded calipers if your going to
purchase any calipers for your use.

Can you get someone to help you do the test?

If you don't have someone's help, you might consider going to a
gym and paying for a trainer to just do a BF% test. I'm a
trainer at a YMCA and we're suppose to charge the "visitor
day-rate" of $15.00 for a BF% test. But frankly if I had he
time I would likely do it for free in the hopes of getting a new
member or client. Plus, I've had my BF% tested by trainer at a
commercial gym just by walking in and asking. I'm sure that
trainer did it for the same reasons that I mentioned. Or maybe
he just wanted to see me without my shirt -- who knows.

Whoever you get to test your BF%, go back to that same person
again. Even if they are technically "off" in their methods
(where they test, how hard they pull, were they put the calipers
in relation to their fingers, ect.), they will be consistently
"off" but your gain/loss would probably be correct.

Also don't workout prior to the test.


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Marengo wrote:
Laureen wrote:
|| Holy crap! 62? Thats how old my father is. You lift?????? KEWL!!!!
|| My trainer is 8%, thin waisted bulked out on top, ripped abs, and
a
|| teeny well muscled tight ass LOL!!!
||
|| Laureen
||

Well, at least now we know your true motivation to go to the gymn ...

Peter

And dont pinch your ball sack like JC does ok? It hurts! Thats why he
is so bitchy all the time!!!!

ROFLMFAO!!!
Laureen





Just remember to pinch until it
hurts.

JC
Thank you. I knew your answer would be right on...
I bought a good scale that does body fat. BUT...BUT if you think this is
not an accurate method I'll ask a trainer at the gym to do it.....
Ok, now to lose 24 pounds... The plan.....
swim at least 5 to 6 days a week and weight train at least 3.
I'll swim in the AM and then shoot over to the gym at night...
Does this sound reasonable... Is there a point of overdoing???
And the 1300 calories makes sense... I'll track it thru fit day...
Again
thanks
Warren


JC Der Koenig wrote:
How do you know that you have 30% bodyfat? However you came to that
conclusion, do that again regularly until you get down to 20% bodyfat.
Unless you are just guessing. In that case, find another way to calculate
your bodyfat.

As far as exercise goes, swimming is just about as good as anything,
although I would add some weightlifting.

Here's how to figure out how much to eat:

30% bodyfat at 194 pounds is 194 ( .3) = 135.8 pounds of lean mass. (which
we will assume you can maintain through proper exercise and diet)

Given 135.8 pounds of lean mass, and wanting 20% bodyfat, I would use the
equation x / ( 135.8 + x) = .2 to figure about how much you would have to
lose. Work the equation so that x = 27.16 + .2x or .8x = 27.16 ,
therefore x = 33.95 (of bodyfat) which I add to your lean mass which
gives a total of 169.75 pounds. Round that to 170, and of course you should
lose about 24 pounds to get down to around 20% bodyfat, if all other things
are approximately right. (There's a lot of conjecture here).

To lose the 24 pounds, I would eat about 1360 calories per day, with about
40% protein, 15% carbs, and 45% fat.

If I stalled, I would cut some protein calories and probably exercise more.

Quoting warren :
[...]
6 ft and have about 30% body fat.....

When you posted that pic in html, I took a look at it. I doubt that
you're 30% bodyfat unless you happened to be wearing a rather tight
girdle under that sweater. 30% is pretty darned chunky for a guy.

Suze... that what the scale sez... I thought I was about 20-25ish.......
But even though I look thin I put weight on in the middle. That was
taken 1 year ago January so it's 15 months and I am up about 2 pounds
from there..... So I pretty much look the same, just without the tan.....
And I am not a cross dresser... other things maybe but not that.......
and I agree 30% is chunky.. this has me perplexed. I am going to do what
someone recommended and that is get it done from a pro... then I'll
solve the question...
Thanks
Warren

Suze wrote:
Quoting warren :
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6 ft and have about 30% body fat.....


When you posted that pic in html, I took a look at it. I doubt that
you're 30% bodyfat unless you happened to be wearing a rather tight
girdle under that sweater. 30% is pretty darned chunky for a guy.