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Intellectual Capital: Michael McGough / Picking on fat kids

Can an obesity 'epidemic' be targeted without making life worse for
overweight children?
Monday, June 21, 2004

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

WASHINGTON -- Although it won't be in the bookstores until tomorrow, Bill
Clinton's autobiography "My Life" has been extensively previewed. I was
most intrigued by the revelation in the review in yesterday's New York
Times that Clinton "does provide some telling snapshots of his awkward
childhood: a fat, self-conscious boy dressed in a new Easter outfit every
year."

This isn't the first time Clinton has obsessed about his childhood
chubbiness. More than a decade ago, it was reported that he unburdened
himself at a Camp David retreat for his new administration about how his
boyhood buddies had taunted him because he was overweight. That Clinton
might have, as they say, internalized the abuse is suggested by this
comment he made to a Republican leader, quoted by Time magazine: "I'm a lot
like Baby Huey. I'm fat. I'm ugly. But if you push me down, I keep coming
back."

Like Clinton, I had a chubby childhood. I'd like to think that fat kids
today have an easier time of it -- if only because their numbers have
increased. For a while I wondered hopefully if the increase in child
obesity, the subject of so many apocalyptic news stories, might have the
silver lining for fat kids of destigmatizing their condition. No such luck.

Ask Josh Gee, an 18-year-old graduating senior at Seneca High School near
Erie who was the subject of a poignant story in the Post-Gazette last week
by Cristina Rouvalis. Josh, who once weighed 346 pounds, lost 136 of those
pounds after undergoing gastric bypass surgery last year. According to one
of Josh's friends, occasionally someone will tease Josh by saying, "You are
still fat." What's depressing isn't that Josh is still teased a little;
it's that he was teased so much before he lost weight that he was
prescribed an anti-depressant.

Fat kids much thinner than Josh are fair game not just in school but also
on national television. A few months ago David Letterman conferred a
Warholian 15 minutes of fame on Tyler Crotty, a 13-year-old boy who was
photographed yawning during a campaign speech by President Bush. Letterman
yielded yuks aplenty when he showed the footage of Tyler's operatic boredom
under the title "George W. Bush: Invigorating America's Youth."

To my expert eye, there was more to the Tyler tape than an opportunity for
Bush-bashing. As soon as I saw Tyler, I wondered if something else about
the clip might not have tipped the scales, literally, in making it Must See
TV. Tyler Crotty, you see, is a pudgy kid, and for many Letterman viewers a
pudgy kid looking goofy was funnier than a thin one would have been. (This
is, after all, the show whose official luncheon meat is "Big Ass Ham.") It
ain't funny till the fat kid yawns.

Making fun of fat kids is a comic convention that predates Letterman and
will survive him. If you believe the scare stories, fat kids are plentiful
in front of television screens. But they're scarce on those screens except
as comic relief, even when it would suit the premise for the star to be
fat. In real life, a Brainiac like the protagonist of "Malcolm in the
Middle" likely would waddle around the house, dodging taunts of "Fatso"
from his skinny brothers.

Washington is just as fat-phobic as Hollywood is, and the loathing of lard
is bipartisan. When President Bush moved toward replacing the portly
Lawrence Lindsey as his chief economic adviser with former Goldman Sachs
co-chairman Stephen Friedman, The Washington Post quoted a Goldman Sachs
source who noted that "Friedman is a fitness fanatic who works out daily,
something that could endear him to the health-conscious president, who
travels with a treadmill on Air Force One and recently appeared on the
cover of Runner's World magazine." Last year Senate Republican leader Bill
Frist joined Democratic Sen. Jeff Bingaman in proposing a major federal
effort against childhood obesity.

Of course, these politicians would insist that in stigmatizing fat kids as
a national menace they're acting with the children's interests at heart --
but that's what parents say when they deny their chubby kids that extra
piece of pie.

It still hurts, especially when the media join in the scolding. Time
magazine led off its recent special issue on obesity in America with a
garish two-page "photo illustration" showing a fat father preparing to dive
into the family pool as his chunky children looked on.

His double-chinned teenage son is holding an ice cream cone with three
scoops -- because everybody knows fat kids are gluttons.

I can easily imagine that picture being cut out and affixed to the school
locker of a fat kid who hasn't undergone bypass surgery -- along, perhaps,
with a recent editorial cartoon by the PG's Rob Rogers. The first panel was
labeled "Yesterday's Rebellious Teen" and featured a skinny punk who says,
"I stole a pack of my Mom's cigarettes." Panel 2 showed "Today's Rebellious
teen," a big-bellied boy who stole a box of his Mom's Twinkies.

Yes, childhood obesity is correlated with health problems, including high
blood pressure and diabetes. But the psychological pain experienced by
overweight kids is arguably just as harmful, and the national campaign
against childhood obesity runs the risk of legitimizing that pain, without
any guarantee that fat kids will be scared skinny.

When Bill Clinton and I were boys, fat-bashers on the playground had no
excuse. Today they can claim to be striking a blow for the national
welfare.

Body shape discrimination is still rampant in our society. Recent history
seems to show that large people may have to assert themselves with marches
or large Washington DC gatherings to turn the tide.

I'm concerned that in a misguided effort to stop obesity the killer low fat
fad may be imposed on overweight children. Freedom to choose a low carb
high fat *healthy* diet needs to be preserved.

"Stop the madness!" Is a play on Susan Pewter's "Stop the Insanity!"
Ironically, she was the insane one. She was exactly wrong. You eat fat,
you get thin. Fat suppresses appetite.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LowCarbHighFat/

Now that there is an alternative to gastric bypass surgery, the practice of
it needs to be restricted.


"exzuberance" wrote in message
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Intellectual Capital: Michael McGough / Picking on fat kids

Can an obesity 'epidemic' be targeted without making life worse for
overweight children?
Monday, June 21, 2004

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

WASHINGTON -- Although it won't be in the bookstores until tomorrow, Bill
Clinton's autobiography "My Life" has been extensively previewed. I was
most intrigued by the revelation in the review in yesterday's New York
Times that Clinton "does provide some telling snapshots of his awkward
childhood: a fat, self-conscious boy dressed in a new Easter outfit every
year."

This isn't the first time Clinton has obsessed about his childhood
chubbiness. More than a decade ago, it was reported that he unburdened
himself at a Camp David retreat for his new administration about how his
boyhood buddies had taunted him because he was overweight. That Clinton
might have, as they say, internalized the abuse is suggested by this
comment he made to a Republican leader, quoted by Time magazine: "I'm a
lot
like Baby Huey. I'm fat. I'm ugly. But if you push me down, I keep coming
back."

Like Clinton, I had a chubby childhood. I'd like to think that fat kids
today have an easier time of it -- if only because their numbers have
increased. For a while I wondered hopefully if the increase in child
obesity, the subject of so many apocalyptic news stories, might have the
silver lining for fat kids of destigmatizing their condition. No such
luck.

Ask Josh Gee, an 18-year-old graduating senior at Seneca High School near
Erie who was the subject of a poignant story in the Post-Gazette last week
by Cristina Rouvalis. Josh, who once weighed 346 pounds, lost 136 of those
pounds after undergoing gastric bypass surgery last year. According to one
of Josh's friends, occasionally someone will tease Josh by saying, "You
are
still fat." What's depressing isn't that Josh is still teased a little;
it's that he was teased so much before he lost weight that he was
prescribed an anti-depressant.

Fat kids much thinner than Josh are fair game not just in school but also
on national television. A few months ago David Letterman conferred a
Warholian 15 minutes of fame on Tyler Crotty, a 13-year-old boy who was
photographed yawning during a campaign speech by President Bush. Letterman
yielded yuks aplenty when he showed the footage of Tyler's operatic
boredom
under the title "George W. Bush: Invigorating America's Youth."

To my expert eye, there was more to the Tyler tape than an opportunity for
Bush-bashing. As soon as I saw Tyler, I wondered if something else about
the clip might not have tipped the scales, literally, in making it Must
See
TV. Tyler Crotty, you see, is a pudgy kid, and for many Letterman viewers
a
pudgy kid looking goofy was funnier than a thin one would have been. (This
is, after all, the show whose official luncheon meat is "Big Ass Ham.") It
ain't funny till the fat kid yawns.

Making fun of fat kids is a comic convention that predates Letterman and
will survive him. If you believe the scare stories, fat kids are plentiful
in front of television screens. But they're scarce on those screens except
as comic relief, even when it would suit the premise for the star to be
fat. In real life, a Brainiac like the protagonist of "Malcolm in the
Middle" likely would waddle around the house, dodging taunts of "Fatso"
from his skinny brothers.

Washington is just as fat-phobic as Hollywood is, and the loathing of lard
is bipartisan. When President Bush moved toward replacing the portly
Lawrence Lindsey as his chief economic adviser with former Goldman Sachs
co-chairman Stephen Friedman, The Washington Post quoted a Goldman Sachs
source who noted that "Friedman is a fitness fanatic who works out daily,
something that could endear him to the health-conscious president, who
travels with a treadmill on Air Force One and recently appeared on the
cover of Runner's World magazine." Last year Senate Republican leader Bill
Frist joined Democratic Sen. Jeff Bingaman in proposing a major federal
effort against childhood obesity.

Of course, these politicians would insist that in stigmatizing fat kids as
a national menace they're acting with the children's interests at heart --
but that's what parents say when they deny their chubby kids that extra
piece of pie.

It still hurts, especially when the media join in the scolding. Time
magazine led off its recent special issue on obesity in America with a
garish two-page "photo illustration" showing a fat father preparing to
dive
into the family pool as his chunky children looked on.

His double-chinned teenage son is holding an ice cream cone with three
scoops -- because everybody knows fat kids are gluttons.

I can easily imagine that picture being cut out and affixed to the school
locker of a fat kid who hasn't undergone bypass surgery -- along, perhaps,
with a recent editorial cartoon by the PG's Rob Rogers. The first panel
was
labeled "Yesterday's Rebellious Teen" and featured a skinny punk who says,
"I stole a pack of my Mom's cigarettes." Panel 2 showed "Today's
Rebellious
teen," a big-bellied boy who stole a box of his Mom's Twinkies.

Yes, childhood obesity is correlated with health problems, including high
blood pressure and diabetes. But the psychological pain experienced by
overweight kids is arguably just as harmful, and the national campaign
against childhood obesity runs the risk of legitimizing that pain, without
any guarantee that fat kids will be scared skinny.

When Bill Clinton and I were boys, fat-bashers on the playground had no
excuse. Today they can claim to be striking a blow for the national
welfare.

JoAnn H wrote in :

Just don't let it be a very LONG march. Have the ambulances standing
by. Make sure that lots of food vendors are strategically positioned
along the march route. Perhaps the it would be better if the marchers
were all placed on flat bed trucks and driven the route.

JoAnn


there was a sensitive, persecuted, overweight (or should say, socially
undervalued) man at the dave matthews band concert in indy sunday. we
couldn't sit in our $60 pavillion seats, because, through some natural
law of soft tissue deformation that i didnt learn in engineering physics,
he was able to squeeze his ass, which must have been 4 feet across, into
his chair, and all his fat sort of overflowed halfway onto the chairs to
his left and right. if my friend would have sat in his chair, the man's
thinly covered fat would basically have been spilling halfway over into
my friends lap, probably covering one whole leg.

the show was sold out, so i was tempted to attempt the impossible and ask
the staff to make his elephantine, gluttonous, overeating-every-day-of-
his-life ass sit/stand somewhere else where his sweaty fat wouldn't be
agressing against the rights of self-respecting patrons who now couldnt
get their moneys worth. my friend said no, we should feel sorry for this
approximately 30 year old man, because he had probably only a few years
left...people that fat dont live long...so we spent the rest of the night
trying to find vacant seats to sit in while the owners were away.

so, we drove 6 hours to see this show, only to not be able to sit in our
seats, and god knows how long the person on glutton's other side had to
drive to get there and realize he couldn't fit in his $60 seat because
another man was taking it up.

i feel sorry for the guy, but he needs to stop being a menace to himself
and society.

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, js wrote:
JoAnn H wrote in :

Just don't let it be a very LONG march. Have the ambulances standing
by. Make sure that lots of food vendors are strategically positioned
along the march route. Perhaps the it would be better if the marchers
were all placed on flat bed trucks and driven the route.

JoAnn


there was a sensitive, persecuted, overweight (or should say, socially
undervalued) man at the dave matthews band concert in indy sunday. we
couldn't sit in our $60 pavillion seats, because, through some natural
law of soft tissue deformation that i didnt learn in engineering physics,
he was able to squeeze his ass, which must have been 4 feet across, into
his chair, and all his fat sort of overflowed halfway onto the chairs to
his left and right. if my friend would have sat in his chair, the man's
thinly covered fat would basically have been spilling halfway over into
my friends lap, probably covering one whole leg.

the show was sold out, so i was tempted to attempt the impossible and ask
the staff to make his elephantine, gluttonous, overeating-every-day-of-
his-life ass sit/stand somewhere else where his sweaty fat wouldn't be
agressing against the rights of self-respecting patrons who now couldnt
get their moneys worth. my friend said no, we should feel sorry for this
approximately 30 year old man, because he had probably only a few years
left...people that fat dont live long...so we spent the rest of the night
trying to find vacant seats to sit in while the owners were away.

so, we drove 6 hours to see this show, only to not be able to sit in our
seats, and god knows how long the person on glutton's other side had to
drive to get there and realize he couldn't fit in his $60 seat because
another man was taking it up.

i feel sorry for the guy, but he needs to stop being a menace to himself
and society.

Wow, that's terrible. He should pay for your ticket plus a glutton
penalty.

Fat Acceptors regularly stomp their hooves, and huff and puff whenever any
company tries to make them pay for the extra seats their large cabooses
occupy. Look at all the guff they gave Southwest Airlines.

Generally fat people don't care that they are invading someone else's
space. They selfishly park their fat appendages into areas they cannot fit
without a care as to whom they are inconveniencing.

HTH

S*nort

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 08:26:01 -0700, JoAnn H wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:15:23 GMT, "Dave"
wrote:

Body shape discrimination is still rampant in our society. Recent
history seems to show that large people may have to assert
themselves with marches or large Washington DC gatherings to turn
the tide.

Just don't let it be a very LONG march. Have the ambulances
standing by. Make sure that lots of food vendors are strategically
positioned along the march route. Perhaps the it would be better if
the marchers were all placed on flat bed trucks and driven the
route.

JoAnn


Spoken like a fool that can't find her ass with both hands. Does your
mamma know you do this? You escaped from the basement AGAIN!!

LV


Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
- ---------------------------------------------
"To Do Is To Be" Socrates
"To Be Is To Do" Plato
"Do Be Do Be Do" Sinatra
- -------------------------------


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On 22 Jun 2004 20:30:45 -0000, t 0 n s r wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, js wrote:
JoAnn H wrote in :

Just don't let it be a very LONG march. Have the ambulances
standing by. Make sure that lots of food vendors are
strategically positioned along the march route. Perhaps the it
would be better if the marchers were all placed on flat bed
trucks and driven the route.

JoAnn


there was a sensitive, persecuted, overweight (or should say,
socially undervalued) man at the dave matthews band concert in
indy sunday. we couldn't sit in our $60 pavillion seats, because,
through some natural law of soft tissue deformation that i didnt
learn in engineering physics, he was able to squeeze his ass,
which must have been 4 feet across, into his chair, and all his
fat sort of overflowed halfway onto the chairs to his left and
right. if my friend would have sat in his chair, the man's thinly
covered fat would basically have been spilling halfway over into
my friends lap, probably covering one whole leg.

the show was sold out, so i was tempted to attempt the impossible
and ask the staff to make his elephantine, gluttonous,
overeating-every-day-of- his-life ass sit/stand somewhere else
where his sweaty fat wouldn't be agressing against the rights of
self-respecting patrons who now couldnt get their moneys worth.
my friend said no, we should feel sorry for this approximately 30
year old man, because he had probably only a few years
left...people that fat dont live long...so we spent the rest of the
night trying to find vacant seats to sit in while the owners were
away.

so, we drove 6 hours to see this show, only to not be able to sit
in our seats, and god knows how long the person on glutton's other
side had to drive to get there and realize he couldn't fit in his
$60 seat because another man was taking it up.

i feel sorry for the guy, but he needs to stop being a menace to
himself and society.

Wow, that's terrible. He should pay for your ticket plus a glutton
penalty.

Fat Acceptors regularly stomp their hooves, and huff and puff
whenever any company tries to make them pay for the extra seats
their large cabooses occupy. Look at all the guff they gave
Southwest Airlines.

Generally fat people don't care that they are invading someone
else's space. They selfishly park their fat appendages into areas
they cannot fit without a care as to whom they are inconveniencing.

HTH

S*nort

Where I come from they SHOOT talking rump roasts like you. I bet you
have a wonderful man to hand relationship because no one will have
you.

****wit.

LV


Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
- ---------------------------------------------
"To Do Is To Be" Socrates
"To Be Is To Do" Plato
"Do Be Do Be Do" Sinatra
- -------------------------------


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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 01:38:48 GMT, Lady Veteran ,
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On 22 Jun 2004 20:30:45 -0000, t 0 n s r wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, js wrote:
JoAnn H wrote in :

Just don't let it be a very LONG march. Have the ambulances
standing by. Make sure that lots of food vendors are
strategically positioned along the march route. Perhaps the it
would be better if the marchers were all placed on flat bed
trucks and driven the route.

JoAnn


there was a sensitive, persecuted, overweight (or should say,
socially undervalued) man at the dave matthews band concert in
indy sunday. we couldn't sit in our $60 pavillion seats, because,
through some natural law of soft tissue deformation that i didnt
learn in engineering physics, he was able to squeeze his ass,
which must have been 4 feet across, into his chair, and all his
fat sort of overflowed halfway onto the chairs to his left and
right. if my friend would have sat in his chair, the man's thinly
covered fat would basically have been spilling halfway over into
my friends lap, probably covering one whole leg.

the show was sold out, so i was tempted to attempt the impossible
and ask the staff to make his elephantine, gluttonous,
overeating-every-day-of- his-life ass sit/stand somewhere else
where his sweaty fat wouldn't be agressing against the rights of
self-respecting patrons who now couldnt get their moneys worth.
my friend said no, we should feel sorry for this approximately 30
year old man, because he had probably only a few years
left...people that fat dont live long...so we spent the rest of the
night trying to find vacant seats to sit in while the owners were
away.

so, we drove 6 hours to see this show, only to not be able to sit
in our seats, and god knows how long the person on glutton's other
side had to drive to get there and realize he couldn't fit in his
$60 seat because another man was taking it up.

i feel sorry for the guy, but he needs to stop being a menace to
himself and society.

Wow, that's terrible. He should pay for your ticket plus a glutton
penalty.

Fat Acceptors regularly stomp their hooves, and huff and puff
whenever any company tries to make them pay for the extra seats
their large cabooses occupy. Look at all the guff they gave
Southwest Airlines.

Generally fat people don't care that they are invading someone
else's space. They selfishly park their fat appendages into areas
they cannot fit without a care as to whom they are inconveniencing.

HTH

S*nort

Where I come from they SHOOT talking rump roasts like you.


I saw your other post. Where you come from they hate whitey and treat
"da brothas" like a piece of mandingo man meat too.

Or maybe it's just you. -

The lower half of 1 black man is worth 10 complete white men. When I
**** I like MEN, not little sissyboys that have to talk from behind
their mommy's skirt.

I lova da bothas:-)

LV

This was a perfectly good conversation until you showed up, biggot.
Get lost with your off topic, crossposted crap.

Connie

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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 12:21:43 GMT, Connie Gold
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 01:38:48 GMT, Lady Veteran
, wrote:

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On 22 Jun 2004 20:30:45 -0000, t 0 n s r wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, js wrote:
JoAnn H wrote in :


Just don't let it be a very LONG march. Have the ambulances
standing by. Make sure that lots of food vendors are
strategically positioned along the march route. Perhaps the it
would be better if the marchers were all placed on flat bed
trucks and driven the route.

JoAnn


there was a sensitive, persecuted, overweight (or should say,
socially undervalued) man at the dave matthews band concert in
indy sunday. we couldn't sit in our $60 pavillion seats,
because, through some natural law of soft tissue deformation
that i didnt learn in engineering physics, he was able to
squeeze his ass, which must have been 4 feet across, into his
chair, and all his fat sort of overflowed halfway onto the chairs
to his left and right. if my friend would have sat in his
chair, the man's thinly covered fat would basically have been
spilling halfway over into my friends lap, probably covering one
whole leg.

the show was sold out, so i was tempted to attempt the impossible
and ask the staff to make his elephantine, gluttonous,
overeating-every-day-of- his-life ass sit/stand somewhere else
where his sweaty fat wouldn't be agressing against the rights of
self-respecting patrons who now couldnt get their moneys worth.
my friend said no, we should feel sorry for this approximately
30 year old man, because he had probably only a few years
left...people that fat dont live long...so we spent the rest of
the night trying to find vacant seats to sit in while the owners
were away.

so, we drove 6 hours to see this show, only to not be able to sit
in our seats, and god knows how long the person on glutton's
other side had to drive to get there and realize he couldn't fit
in his $60 seat because another man was taking it up.

i feel sorry for the guy, but he needs to stop being a menace to
himself and society.

Wow, that's terrible. He should pay for your ticket plus a
glutton penalty.

Fat Acceptors regularly stomp their hooves, and huff and puff
whenever any company tries to make them pay for the extra seats
their large cabooses occupy. Look at all the guff they gave
Southwest Airlines.

Generally fat people don't care that they are invading someone
else's space. They selfishly park their fat appendages into areas
they cannot fit without a care as to whom they are
inconveniencing.

HTH

S*nort

Where I come from they SHOOT talking rump roasts like you.


I saw your other post. Where you come from they hate whitey and
treat "da brothas" like a piece of mandingo man meat too.

Or maybe it's just you. -

When confronted with a waste of life like you? It brings out the
anger in me. There are people in this world would love to have the
life you waste being an idiot.


The lower half of 1 black man is worth 10 complete white men. When
I **** I like MEN, not little sissyboys that have to talk from
behind their mommy's skirt.

I lova da bothas:-)

LV

This was a perfectly good conversation until you showed up, biggot.
Get lost with your off topic, crossposted crap.

You can stick it up your ass and twirl it.

Connie

LV


Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
- ---------------------------------------------
"To Do Is To Be" Socrates
"To Be Is To Do" Plato
"Do Be Do Be Do" Sinatra
- -------------------------------


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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 12:21:43 GMT, Connie Gold
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 01:38:48 GMT, Lady Veteran
, wrote:

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On 22 Jun 2004 20:30:45 -0000, t 0 n s r wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, js wrote:
JoAnn H wrote in :


Just don't let it be a very LONG march. Have the ambulances
standing by. Make sure that lots of food vendors are
strategically positioned along the march route. Perhaps the it
would be better if the marchers were all placed on flat bed
trucks and driven the route.

JoAnn


there was a sensitive, persecuted, overweight (or should say,
socially undervalued) man at the dave matthews band concert in
indy sunday. we couldn't sit in our $60 pavillion seats,
because, through some natural law of soft tissue deformation
that i didnt learn in engineering physics, he was able to
squeeze his ass, which must have been 4 feet across, into his
chair, and all his fat sort of overflowed halfway onto the chairs
to his left and right. if my friend would have sat in his
chair, the man's thinly covered fat would basically have been
spilling halfway over into my friends lap, probably covering one
whole leg.

the show was sold out, so i was tempted to attempt the impossible
and ask the staff to make his elephantine, gluttonous,
overeating-every-day-of- his-life ass sit/stand somewhere else
where his sweaty fat wouldn't be agressing against the rights of
self-respecting patrons who now couldnt get their moneys worth.
my friend said no, we should feel sorry for this approximately
30 year old man, because he had probably only a few years
left...people that fat dont live long...so we spent the rest of
the night trying to find vacant seats to sit in while the owners
were away.

so, we drove 6 hours to see this show, only to not be able to sit
in our seats, and god knows how long the person on glutton's
other side had to drive to get there and realize he couldn't fit
in his $60 seat because another man was taking it up.

i feel sorry for the guy, but he needs to stop being a menace to
himself and society.

Wow, that's terrible. He should pay for your ticket plus a
glutton penalty.

Fat Acceptors regularly stomp their hooves, and huff and puff
whenever any company tries to make them pay for the extra seats
their large cabooses occupy. Look at all the guff they gave
Southwest Airlines.

Generally fat people don't care that they are invading someone
else's space. They selfishly park their fat appendages into areas
they cannot fit without a care as to whom they are
inconveniencing.

HTH

S*nort

Where I come from they SHOOT talking rump roasts like you.


I saw your other post. Where you come from they hate whitey and
treat "da brothas" like a piece of mandingo man meat too.

Or maybe it's just you. -

When confronted with a waste of life like you? It brings out the
anger in me. There are people in this world would love to have the
life you waste being an idiot.


The lower half of 1 black man is worth 10 complete white men. When
I **** I like MEN, not little sissyboys that have to talk from
behind their mommy's skirt.

I lova da bothas:-)

LV

This was a perfectly good conversation until you showed up, biggot.
Get lost with your off topic, crossposted crap.

You can stick it up your ass and twirl it.

Connie

LV

You are pathetic

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"Lady Veteran" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 12:21:43 GMT, Connie Gold
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 01:38:48 GMT, Lady Veteran
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On 22 Jun 2004 20:30:45 -0000, t 0 n s r wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, js wrote:
JoAnn H wrote in
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Just don't let it be a very LONG march. Have the
ambulances standing by. Make sure that lots of food
vendors are strategically positioned along the march route.
Perhaps the it would be better if the marchers were all
placed on flat bed trucks and driven the route.

JoAnn


there was a sensitive, persecuted, overweight (or should say,
socially undervalued) man at the dave matthews band concert
in indy sunday. we couldn't sit in our $60 pavillion seats,
because, through some natural law of soft tissue deformation
that i didnt learn in engineering physics, he was able to
squeeze his ass, which must have been 4 feet across, into his
chair, and all his fat sort of overflowed halfway onto the
chairs to his left and right. if my friend would have sat in
his chair, the man's thinly covered fat would basically have
been spilling halfway over into my friends lap, probably
covering one whole leg.

the show was sold out, so i was tempted to attempt the
impossible and ask the staff to make his elephantine,
gluttonous,
overeating-every-day-of- his-life ass sit/stand somewhere else
where his sweaty fat wouldn't be agressing against the rights
of self-respecting patrons who now couldnt get their moneys
worth. my friend said no, we should feel sorry for this
approximately 30 year old man, because he had probably only a
few years left...people that fat dont live long...so we spent
the rest of the night trying to find vacant seats to sit in
while the owners were away.

so, we drove 6 hours to see this show, only to not be able to
sit in our seats, and god knows how long the person on
glutton's other side had to drive to get there and realize he
couldn't fit in his $60 seat because another man was taking
it up.

i feel sorry for the guy, but he needs to stop being a menace
to himself and society.

Wow, that's terrible. He should pay for your ticket plus a
glutton penalty.

Fat Acceptors regularly stomp their hooves, and huff and puff
whenever any company tries to make them pay for the extra seats
their large cabooses occupy. Look at all the guff they gave
Southwest Airlines.

Generally fat people don't care that they are invading someone
else's space. They selfishly park their fat appendages into
areas they cannot fit without a care as to whom they are
inconveniencing.

HTH

S*nort

Where I come from they SHOOT talking rump roasts like you.


I saw your other post. Where you come from they hate whitey and
treat "da brothas" like a piece of mandingo man meat too.

Or maybe it's just you. -

When confronted with a waste of life like you? It brings out the
anger in me. There are people in this world would love to have the
life you waste being an idiot.


The lower half of 1 black man is worth 10 complete white men.
When I **** I like MEN, not little sissyboys that have to talk
from behind their mommy's skirt.

I lova da bothas:-)

LV

This was a perfectly good conversation until you showed up,
biggot. Get lost with your off topic, crossposted crap.

You can stick it up your ass and twirl it.

Connie

LV

You are pathetic

Idiots like this are more pathetic than I ever could be. Assumptions
only get you into trouble. If you don't think you are an idiot, quite
acting like one.

LV


Lady Veteran
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"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
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People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
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"To Do Is To Be" Socrates
"To Be Is To Do" Plato
"Do Be Do Be Do" Sinatra
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