HOW OFTEN DOES ONE STEP ON THE SCALE?

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"janice" wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 04:37:26 GMT, "Perple Glow"
wrote:

It is puzzling probably because you don't suffer from the same
compulsion.
Why does an alcoholic drink when they know that it is bad for their
liver?
Why does a druggie smoke crack when they know it will wreck their
brains???
Why does a smoker smoke when they know it is bad for their lungs? Food
addiction works in the same way... Compulsive overeaters logically KNOW
they shouldn't eat as much or as poorly as they do... but can't help
themselves.

An addiction or compulsion is just that... it doesn't have to be logical,
intelligent or make sense.

I couldn't have put this better myself, PG. When I have long periods
of "good" eating and steady weight loss I know the binge behaviour is
still lurking somewhere in me, but I regard myself as in remission
rather than cured. Once the behaviour becomes part of you it seems to
me almost impossible to "cure" although in recent years I've had much
longer periods without it.
janice

Ignoramus4135 wrote:

I had a thought about you a couple of days ago. Maybe you should be
losing weight in chunks? E.g lose 50 lbs, stop losing, maintain weight
for a year, then lose another 50. Less pressure on you. Does it make
sense?

That's what I've done with the 70+ pounds I've lost so far.
It does make a great deal of sense. I'm keeping the 70 pounds off (for
about 6 months in my case), and then starting to lose again slowly.

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Drop everything and do it my way

Little amounts is the thing to do for many over-eaters. About other
stuff, I am still kind of with ADD. I'm 59 and I never could finish a
project. I have a hubby who helps me in these areas.
So when it came to weight I DID this!! I lost the first amount while I
weighed 269+And I lost about 1/2 the wight at a time. I gained about 8
lbs and than I lost again. I went down to 155. This was way to low as I
looked old and all. My doc told me I needed to stay around 165 lbs. We
are all very differant and we need to do what works for us.

glo

"janice" wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 04:37:26 GMT, "Perple Glow"
wrote:

It is puzzling probably because you don't suffer from the same
compulsion.
Why does an alcoholic drink when they know that it is bad for their
liver?
Why does a druggie smoke crack when they know it will wreck their
brains???
Why does a smoker smoke when they know it is bad for their lungs? Food
addiction works in the same way... Compulsive overeaters logically KNOW
they shouldn't eat as much or as poorly as they do... but can't help
themselves.

An addiction or compulsion is just that... it doesn't have to be logical,
intelligent or make sense.

I couldn't have put this better myself, PG. When I have long periods
of "good" eating and steady weight loss I know the binge behaviour is
still lurking somewhere in me, but I regard myself as in remission
rather than cured. Once the behaviour becomes part of you it seems to
me almost impossible to "cure" although in recent years I've had much
longer periods without it.
janice


Commenting on both posts he PG did a very good job explaining the
situation. There are some people who don't believe in food addiction and
some who do. I believe the compulsion is close enough to an addiction that
I decided to take the fasting approach to losing weight - getting the
addictive substances out of my life and my system while I deal with my
issues just like an alcoholic would. Unlike other "addicts" however, I have
no choice but to return to my "drug of choice." I theorize that refined
carbs, added sugars, fried foods, added salt, and large quantities of
animal-based fats are the most addictive foods based on my choices and
cravings for binge eating. Hopefully keeping them out of my diet (or
minimizing them in the case of animal fats by eating only lean meats) will
help me "stay on the wagon."

With regard to janice's comments - an addict is never cured but only in
recovery. It's the same with most eating disorders. I was in treatment for
bulimia nearly 20 years ago and even though I went for many years without
purging afterward, I did slip once and have had the urge to do so at times
in my life. Nowadays, I fight that urge a little more often because the
little voice tells me that I could keep my weight off easier though that is
complete bull**** and I know it intellectually. The fact is, the urge is
there. It could be chemical though I've never responded to medications like
prozac which are used to help reduce the urges. At this time I use therapy,
journaling, and support from family, friends, and groups to deal and so far
it's working.

Jenn
300/145

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Commenting on both posts he PG did a very good job explaining the
situation. There are some people who don't believe in food addiction and
some who do. I believe the compulsion is close enough to an addiction
that
I decided to take the fasting approach to losing weight - getting the
addictive substances out of my life and my system while I deal with my
issues just like an alcoholic would.

That is one of the many reasons I am going this route as well...

Unlike other "addicts" however, I have
no choice but to return to my "drug of choice." I theorize that refined
carbs, added sugars, fried foods, added salt, and large quantities of
animal-based fats are the most addictive foods based on my choices and
cravings for binge eating. Hopefully keeping them out of my diet (or
minimizing them in the case of animal fats by eating only lean meats) will
help me "stay on the wagon."

Yup, my drug of choice too. For me, it is the sugar and starch, not the
animal based fats. Cookies, ice cream, cake..... I remember eating a 1/2
gallon of ice cream in one setting... and then some.

With regard to janice's comments - an addict is never cured but only in
recovery. It's the same with most eating disorders. I was in treatment
for
bulimia nearly 20 years ago and even though I went for many years without
purging afterward, I did slip once and have had the urge to do so at times
in my life. Nowadays, I fight that urge a little more often because the
little voice tells me that I could keep my weight off easier though that
is
complete bull**** and I know it intellectually. The fact is, the urge is
there. It could be chemical though I've never responded to medications
like
prozac which are used to help reduce the urges. At this time I use
therapy,
journaling, and support from family, friends, and groups to deal and so
far
it's working.

Jenn, you are getting control of your life NOW and that is the most
important thing.


Jenn
300/145

"janice" wrote in message
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I agree with you Jenn - my experiences entirely. I think alcohol
could be a good example for me to quote too. When I was a lot younger
(in my 20s) I used to drink socially to the extent of drinking
heavily with friends almost every night of the week because I enjoyed
the effects of it (pretty much like most kids do nowadays). I never
really enjoyed the drink all that much, just the effects of it. I
would sometimes decide to have a night off and it was no big deal at
all. I could stop drinking for weeks and not even notice.
I still enjoy drinking socially, although I don't tend to do it very
often now. I'm at home alone with a cupboard full of assorted
alcohol as I type this and it would never enter my head to have even
one drink. But if this was a box of chocolates it would be calling me
unmercifully.
janice


I actually enjoy the taste of many alcoholic beverages, especially a good
wine, Guinness on tap, or Malibu rum & cranberry. I have some Malibu in my
cabinet at home and have no intention or desire to touch it. I go out to
the bar with my friends just like I did before giving up drinking due to the
diet and I honestly have no trouble sticking to diet coke or lemon water.
Pasta on the other hand would be obsessed over until it was all cooked and
eaten.

Jenn