What triggers a binge ...

and how do you stop it when you stop it if you recognize it?

This occurred to me tonight as I had a bowl of popcorn (why?) and followed it up with a couple of really good chocolate chip cookies. What makes a person act so obviously against their own self interest?

Curious for your responses.....


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John Vertigan
Atkins since 1/2/04
262/238/6 lbs to go in feb/160

Don't post in html, you stupid fat ****.

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JC

Eat less, exercise more.

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"John Vertigan" wrote in message
...
and how do you stop it when you stop it if you recognize it?

This occurred to me tonight as I had a bowl of popcorn (why?) and followed
it up with a couple of really good chocolate chip cookies. What makes a
person act so obviously against their own self interest?

Curious for your responses.....


--
John Vertigan
Atkins since 1/2/04
262/238/6 lbs to go in feb/160

Don't get yourself down over it. I've found that binges occur mostly
whenever your body isn't getting enough of whatever it needs, and it's
telling you..."hey, fill me up with something!"

It's unfortunate, yet very normal, for us to make the worst choices when
we're at our weakest moments...I honestly believe we just don't give a damn
what we eat whenever we're very hungry. Just start it all over again and
make sure you're getting all the nutrition you need, or your body *will*
demand more, and that's how binges get started.

Just MHO, mind you.

SC (formerly JBA)

"John Vertigan" wrote in message
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and how do you stop it when you stop it if you recognize it?

This occurred to me tonight as I had a bowl of popcorn (why?) and followed
it up with a couple of really good chocolate chip cookies. What makes a
person act so obviously against their own self interest?

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for me, it's usually mood related. i crave carbs when i'm upset. i've read
studies that suggest that this is because a jump in blood sugar will cause
your seritonin production to increase, which is the same thing that an
antidepressant would do.

yesterday i had an unusual one... my first "cheat" since xmas. i have
fibromyalgia. some days are good, some days are bad. some days are
downright unbearable. yesterday was one of those days. i was in so much
pain i had to leave work early. on the way home, i did the unthinkable and
got an oreo shake at a fast food place. well, it tasted nice, but it didn't
make me feel any better. in fact, it made me feel worse. i was literally
shaking from the sugar buzz. not fun. i don't think i'll be repeating that
experience.

interestingly, serotonin is also involved in chronic pain. maybe that's why
i was craving the sugar...

-kelly

I think it's a fast decision made without thinking it through. I was
eating out a couple of weeks ago and someone at the next table had
banana pudding. I was planning on having sugar free jello but what came
out of my mouth when the waitress came to the table not jello LOL. The
banana pudding was good very very good (just like my Mom used to make) I
ate it very slow and enjoyed every spoonful. But lucky it didn't set me
off on a binge . It wasn't a very big serving I did get the $1.10 size
not the $ 2.20 size. But my weight was up 2 pounds 2 days later so it
wasn't worth it. I worry about going off on a binge gaining back the
weight I've lost. But I think different now than I used to I can
remember a time when I was dieting and I ate something I wasn't suppose
to I'd think well I've screwed up what difference does it make what else
I eat. I'd eat everything I could get my hands on. Sometimes this would
last days, weeks, or months. I was always starting back on Monday then
I'd slip up one meal then blow it the entire day. This time I've slipped
a few times but got right back on my diet afterward. Why am I able to do
that now and not all the years past God I wish I knew. I think the NG
helps hearing about other people losing weight keeps me psyched. I also
have a internet friend who's on Atkins the emails we send helps both of
us.

What triggers a binge for me is quite simply a large dose of stupidity mixed
with denile. I really convince myself that if I have, whatever it is I want,
this time it will be different from all the other times. This time I'll only
have one of whatever it is I'm craving and not finish the packet etc. and
wake up in two days time face down in a pot of Hagen Daz ice cream.
Anything with processed sugar but other things like mashed potato, pasta or
noodles can set me off on a carb binge.
I'm only recently back on Atkins after spending a terrible year with back
problems when my hubby took over much of the cooking. That probably wouldn't
have been much of a problem, but he's virtually vegan and just can't bring
himself to cook meat, fish or eggs. Added to that his vegetarian cooking
skills are a bit basic but to my amazement no one has died in the time I'm
been away from the kitchen.
The only way I avoid binging is if I don't cheat and if I start to try and
talk myself into cheating then I have to go and find something else to do.
All the best,
Denise

"John Vertigan" wrote in message


and how do you stop it when you stop it if you recognize it?

This occurred to me tonight as I had a bowl of popcorn (why?) and
followed it up with a couple of really good chocolate chip cookies.
What makes a person act so obviously against their own self interest?

Curious for your responses.....

In my opinion the hardest part about losing weight is the (why?). When I
started this low carb journey I finally realized that I had to deal with my
reasons for overeating if I was ever going to take the weight off and keep
it off. I can't tell you how much weight I've lost and regained in my
lifetime because I didn't deal with the (why?).

My biggest hurdle was getting over eating for comfort. I still haven't
managed to do that completely but I no longer run to the sugar and starch.
In fact I think part if not all of the reason I'm stalled now is because
I've had a really rough time at work the past few months and I am just
eating too much. Time to butch up I think. lol

As for why people in general binge once they've eaten something high carb?
That's mainly biology. When you spike your blood sugar your body dumps
insulin to counteract it. If too much insulin is released your blood sugar
drops too low which in turn triggers the quest for carbs to bring it back
up. This starts a rollercoaster of ups and downs.
Jenny has a page on her site that deals with low blood sugar and what to do
to raise it without causing more insulin to be released. I'm not sure if it
works for everyone or just diabetics.
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/twogramcure.htm
--
Jeri
265/189/120
Atkins since 11/5/01
"Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right."
--Henry Ford

You gotta wanna.

--
JC

Eat less, exercise more.

--
"Jeri" wrote in message
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"John Vertigan" wrote in message


and how do you stop it when you stop it if you recognize it?

This occurred to me tonight as I had a bowl of popcorn (why?) and
followed it up with a couple of really good chocolate chip cookies.
What makes a person act so obviously against their own self interest?

Curious for your responses.....

In my opinion the hardest part about losing weight is the (why?). When I
started this low carb journey I finally realized that I had to deal with
my
reasons for overeating if I was ever going to take the weight off and keep
it off. I can't tell you how much weight I've lost and regained in my
lifetime because I didn't deal with the (why?).

My biggest hurdle was getting over eating for comfort. I still haven't
managed to do that completely but I no longer run to the sugar and starch.
In fact I think part if not all of the reason I'm stalled now is because
I've had a really rough time at work the past few months and I am just
eating too much. Time to butch up I think. lol

As for why people in general binge once they've eaten something high carb?
That's mainly biology. When you spike your blood sugar your body dumps
insulin to counteract it. If too much insulin is released your blood sugar
drops too low which in turn triggers the quest for carbs to bring it back
up. This starts a rollercoaster of ups and downs.
Jenny has a page on her site that deals with low blood sugar and what to
do
to raise it without causing more insulin to be released. I'm not sure if
it
works for everyone or just diabetics.
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/twogramcure.htm
--
Jeri
265/189/120
Atkins since 11/5/01
"Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right."
--Henry Ford

When I lost all my weight back in the 70's, I was attending Overeaters Anonymous meetings. They use the same 12 Steps that AA uses and applies them to overeating. I had to find out what I was really hungry for when I got those overpowering urges and went on binges. Here's what I found out about me.

Sweets - When I crave sweets, I am actually craving a "sweet" experience. I am really craving intimacy.

Meat - I'm really craving a "meaty" experience; something important. I can call an intellectual friend, read the classic I've been saving or feed myself meat in another way. Or, thanks to Atkins, just broil myself a steak!

Bread - Give us this day, our daily bread. Bread through the ages has symbolized spiritual food. Maybe I just need to sit down and have a good talk with my Higher Power. Or read the Bible or whatever book my religion uses. Or say a Rosary. Whatever. When I crave bread, I'm spiritually hungry.

You get the idea. I have no way of knowing if these are universal symbols or not. These are true for me.
ohn Vertigan" wrote in message ...
and how do you stop it when you stop it if you recognize it?

This occurred to me tonight as I had a bowl of popcorn (why?) and followed it up with a couple of really good chocolate chip cookies. What makes a person act so obviously against their own self interest?

Curious for your responses.....


--
John Vertigan
Atkins since 1/2/04
262/238/6 lbs to go in feb/160

Ignoramus10160 wrote:
:: Stopping binges is very easy. There are certain foods that turn of
:: fbrains in some people and not in others. Learn to know which foods
:: turn off your brains and cause binges. Then never eat even a bite of
:: such foods, until the rest of your life. It's that simple really.

Certain foods turn off your brains?

hahaha.

::
:: As to what actually happens in the binging mind during a binge, this
:: is a little bit fo a mystery. It seems that the brains simply switch
:: off.
::

Right. Were your brains switched on when you wrote this?

If you've got some links on this, I'd love to read them.