Las Vegas

hey jk,

for what its worth, as a lurker, i enjoyed reading about your eating
more and lost weight in vegas. and that while its tough trying to LC
with prepackage food you are doing it. i too tried to ask a question
here once. i was confusing low carb with clean eating. the only person
who was kind to me was susan. the others basically ignored me yet wrote
long epistles i guess to bait the others about my confusion. hang in
there jk...you're trying and doing much better than me in my LC
endeavors.

catnip

"Merry Merry" wrote in message
...
hey jk,

for what its worth, as a lurker, i enjoyed reading about your eating
more and lost weight in vegas. and that while its tough trying to LC
with prepackage food you are doing it. i too tried to ask a question
here once. i was confusing low carb with clean eating. the only person
who was kind to me was susan. the others basically ignored me yet wrote
long epistles i guess to bait the others about my confusion. hang in
there jk...you're trying and doing much better than me in my LC
endeavors.

catnip



Hey thanks. I'm not unaware of life on usenet with the trolls,
shut-ins, and "experts". I just thought it funny and extreme that I am
accused of lying about a measly 1 lb weight loss! You can't make it up.
LOL


--
"When you win, nothing hurts".... Joe Namath

JK
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

"JKconey" wrote:
"Merry Merry" wrote:

... *i was confusing low carb with clean eating ...

So what do you mean by it? Everyone seems to have their
own meaning for what clean eating is. Is there a book with
that title perhaps? I remember someone posting "You on a
diet" and asking about it before I'd ever seen the book by
that title.

... *I just thought it funny and extreme that I am
accused of lying about a measly 1 lb weight loss! *You can't make it up..

There are biochemical reasons that a short term change in
total calorie intake and/or a short term change in the
carb:fatrotein ratios can trigger increased base metabolism
and thus loss. The folks who think "a calorie is a calorie is
a calorie" is more than a usually useful approximation and
the folks who think that "calories in equals calories out" has
the calories-out side fixed tend to not believe such easily
repeated experiments.

What you described is a very common stall busting strategy
so I found it easy to believe.

"Doug Freyburger" wrote in message
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"JKconey" wrote:
"Merry Merry" wrote:


What you described is a very common stall busting strategy
so I found it easy to believe.


I wasn't bragging, only reporting how great it is to be on vacation, eat
LC at a buffet, exercise, and still get a decent result. I still can't
figure out why anyone would take issue with this? If I said I lost 10 lbs in
5 days of mad eating, I could see that being challenged.


--
"When you win, nothing hurts".... Joe Namath

JK
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

"JKconey" wrote:

I still can't figure out why anyone would take issue with this?

People who have tidy little simple models for how things work
don't like the reality that the human body is far more complex
than they wish so they get upset when the complex realities
break the simplist models. I have long since become convinced
that's why.

Folks want lower carb to be better no matter how low lower is,
yet there isn't a single popular low carb book that says that.
Authors spend a decade or more working on their books so
it would be amazing if even one of them had failed to try such
a simple and obvious strategy.

Folks want lower calorie to be better no matter studies that
show consistant refeeds resulting from extreme low calorie
times.

Folks search for extreme examples and use them to discount
metabolic advantages and metabolic resets.

Folks want it to be simpler than it really is.

There are even folks that want moderation to work yet a single
trip to the mall to glance at the crowd proves that moderation
fails for vast numbers of dieters. Do some of these people
actually believe there's even one fat person in a hundred who
hasn't tried and failed many times at moderation? I've sure
never heard of anyone overweight who hasn't tried that.

"Doug Freyburger" wrote in message
...
"JKconey" wrote:

I still can't figure out why anyone would take issue with this?

People who have tidy little simple models for how things work
don't like the reality that the human body is far more complex
than they wish so they get upset when the complex realities
break the simplist models. I have long since become convinced
that's why.

Folks want lower carb to be better no matter how low lower is,
yet there isn't a single popular low carb book that says that.
Authors spend a decade or more working on their books so
it would be amazing if even one of them had failed to try such
a simple and obvious strategy.

Folks want lower calorie to be better no matter studies that
show consistant refeeds resulting from extreme low calorie
times.

Folks search for extreme examples and use them to discount
metabolic advantages and metabolic resets.

Folks want it to be simpler than it really is.

There are even folks that want moderation to work yet a single
trip to the mall to glance at the crowd proves that moderation
fails for vast numbers of dieters. Do some of these people
actually believe there's even one fat person in a hundred who
hasn't tried and failed many times at moderation? I've sure
never heard of anyone overweight who hasn't tried that.


Irony is that now that I found this new and more moderate method that's
producing really good results for me, I just found out that I am insulin
resistant, and may have to go back to a somewhat stricter LC plan. I'm
experimenting now with eating more frequent smaller meals, while exercising.
Doc assures me that as I lose more weight, it will help. Hoping for the
best.


--
"Never bet on the end of the world because it's only going to happen once
and how are you going to collect?"

JK
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com