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Beer Carbohydrates - Anheuser-Busch Sets the Record Straight
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Beer Carbohydrates - Anheuser-Busch Sets the Record Straight Many Popular Carb Diet Books Provide Incorrect Information about Beer ST. LOUIS (March 19, 2004) - The popularity of recent carbohydrate diet books has focused Americans' attention on carbohydrates in their food as never before. Even those who are not on strict low-carb diets consider some carbs "good" or "bad" based on this advice and make their food choices accordingly. The fact is dieters don't have to choose between their low-carb lifestyle and their favorite light beer. Many of these books contain errors about beer. "Beer, and especially light beer, is enjoyed responsibly by many adults who also happen to be on weight-loss diets of all kinds," said Douglas Muhleman, Anheuser-Busch vice president brewing operations and technology. "Beer has zero fat. Light beer also is low in carbs and low in calories." One of the common errors repeated in many books has to do with maltose in beer.* Most beers contain little or no maltose. When barley malt is first cooked in the brewing process, the resulting liquid contains maltose, which is a sugar. During fermentation - yeast consumes the maltose, converting it to alcohol and natural carbonation. Many popular carbohydrate diet books attempt to assign "good" or "bad" ratings on food based on its glycemic index alone.* The glycemic index is a way of measuring how fast and high a specific food increases blood sugar. When it comes to beer, many diet book authors say beer's glycemic index is high.* But this is based on the mistaken belief that beer contains high levels of sugar or maltose. There is no published glycemic index for beer. Beer is so low in carbs that the glycemic index cannot be practically measured, according to the University of Sydney researchers.* There have been humorous references to "beer bellies" in some of the popular carbohydrate diet books.* The truth is, there is no such thing as a "beer" belly. Excess fat in any part of the body is caused by too many calories from any source and not enough exercise, according to published academic sources. Where fat is deposited on the body is mainly determined by gender and genetics.* No matter what kind of diet - low-carb, low-fat, low-calorie - is chosen, most doctors agree that the keys to weight loss are moderate food and beverage intake and regular exercise. Beer can be part of that kind of healthy lifestyle for adults.* "We are not endorsing any particular diet or diet book, and we are certainly not saying that drinking beer will cause you to lose weight," said Muhleman. "Rather, we are providing accurate information for adults to determine what products can fit within their food and beverage choices. We want any consumption of our beers to be by adults and to be responsible." Based in St. Louis, Anheuser-Busch Cos. Inc. is the leading U.S. brewer and holds a 50 percent share in Grupo Modelo, Mexico's leading brewer. In a survey of 10,000 business leaders and securities analysts, Anheuser-Busch ranked first overall in quality of products and services among nearly 600 companies researched in FORTUNE magazine's 2004 "America's Most Admired Companies" listing. The company also is one of the largest theme park operators in the United States, is a major manufacturer of aluminum cans and is the world's largest recycler of aluminum beverage containers. For more information, visit www.anheuser-busch.com. -- Ken "They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some kind of federal program." -Bushism's, 2000 |
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Beer Carbohydrates - Anheuser-Busch Sets the Record Straight
"Ken Kubos" wrote in message ...
"We are not endorsing any particular diet or diet book, and we are certainly not saying that drinking beer will cause you to lose weight," said Muhleman. "Rather, we are providing accurate information for adults to determine what products can fit within their food and beverage choices. We want any consumption of our beers to be by adults and to be responsible." There's *not* accurate information here, there's hand-waving. How much carb is left after fermentation? Of course it's less than before fermentation, but how *much*? How many carbs in which beers? Bread is fermented too, but there's still carbs left in it after it's baked... it's not low-carb just cause the yeast munched on it before I did, depends on how much carb is *left* when it gets to me that matters. Without *that* information, which the alcohol industry has been loathe to provide, beer can't fit even occassionally into a low-carb diet. It *can* fit into a planned cheat day, but then it's not fitting into a low-carb diet. All these manufacturers are being all "concerned" about low-carb now that it's a big old fad... why the hell can't they just *provide* the numbers we want and let us decide if it fits in our plan? And why the hell haven't they been willing to do this for the last few years either, but now it's suddenly a big old issue cause they're losing business? Hand-waving marketing without numbers isn't the slightest bit useful. And it's not "setting the record straight" - it's just bull****ting. |
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Beer Carbohydrates - Anheuser-Busch Sets the Record Straight
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 20:08:42 -0600, "Ken Kubos" wrote:
http://www.anheuser-busch.com/news/S...rdStraight.htm "we are certainly not saying that drinking beer will cause you to lose weight" Darn, I was hoping that 6 or 12 beers a day was the magic weight loss formula. |
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Beer Carbohydrates - Anheuser-Busch Sets the Record Straight
Many years of alcoholism are the reason I am fat today.
My drink of choice was usually beer. If people want to think that beer or any alcoholic beverage for that matter actually belong as a regular part of a healthy weight-loss diet, they are only fooling themselves. Mark. "Ken Kubos" wrote in message ... http://www.anheuser-busch.com/news/S...rdStraight.htm Beer Carbohydrates - Anheuser-Busch Sets the Record Straight Many Popular Carb Diet Books Provide Incorrect Information about Beer ST. LOUIS (March 19, 2004) - The popularity of recent carbohydrate diet books has focused Americans' attention on carbohydrates in their food as never before. Even those who are not on strict low-carb diets consider some carbs "good" or "bad" based on this advice and make their food choices accordingly. The fact is dieters don't have to choose between their low-carb lifestyle and their favorite light beer. Many of these books contain errors about beer. "Beer, and especially light beer, is enjoyed responsibly by many adults who also happen to be on weight-loss diets of all kinds," said Douglas Muhleman, Anheuser-Busch vice president brewing operations and technology. "Beer has zero fat. Light beer also is low in carbs and low in calories." One of the common errors repeated in many books has to do with maltose in beer.* Most beers contain little or no maltose. When barley malt is first cooked in the brewing process, the resulting liquid contains maltose, which is a sugar. During fermentation - yeast consumes the maltose, converting it to alcohol and natural carbonation. Many popular carbohydrate diet books attempt to assign "good" or "bad" ratings on food based on its glycemic index alone.* The glycemic index is a way of measuring how fast and high a specific food increases blood sugar. When it comes to beer, many diet book authors say beer's glycemic index is high.* But this is based on the mistaken belief that beer contains high levels of sugar or maltose. There is no published glycemic index for beer. Beer is so low in carbs that the glycemic index cannot be practically measured, according to the University of Sydney researchers.* There have been humorous references to "beer bellies" in some of the popular carbohydrate diet books.* The truth is, there is no such thing as a "beer" belly. Excess fat in any part of the body is caused by too many calories from any source and not enough exercise, according to published academic sources. Where fat is deposited on the body is mainly determined by gender and genetics.* No matter what kind of diet - low-carb, low-fat, low-calorie - is chosen, most doctors agree that the keys to weight loss are moderate food and beverage intake and regular exercise. Beer can be part of that kind of healthy lifestyle for adults.* "We are not endorsing any particular diet or diet book, and we are certainly not saying that drinking beer will cause you to lose weight," said Muhleman. "Rather, we are providing accurate information for adults to determine what products can fit within their food and beverage choices. We want any consumption of our beers to be by adults and to be responsible." Based in St. Louis, Anheuser-Busch Cos. Inc. is the leading U.S. brewer and holds a 50 percent share in Grupo Modelo, Mexico's leading brewer. In a survey of 10,000 business leaders and securities analysts, Anheuser-Busch ranked first overall in quality of products and services among nearly 600 companies researched in FORTUNE magazine's 2004 "America's Most Admired Companies" listing. The company also is one of the largest theme park operators in the United States, is a major manufacturer of aluminum cans and is the world's largest recycler of aluminum beverage containers. For more information, visit www.anheuser-busch.com. -- Ken "They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some kind of federal program." -Bushism's, 2000 |
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Beer Carbohydrates - Anheuser-Busch Sets the Record Straight
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 08:15:44 +0000, Marcusj wrote: Many years of alcoholism are the reason I am fat today. Many years of self-indulgent indolence are the reason I was fat last year. Today, I'd call myself "chubby". JC would call me a fat ****, in response to which I would wink, and raise my frothy stein for another toast. My drink of choice was usually beer. My drinks of choice were beer and Scotch. Mostly beer. If people want to think that beer or any alcoholic beverage for that matter actually belong as a regular part of a healthy weight-loss diet, they are only fooling themselves. All the studies I've seen indicate positive net health benefits for daily moderate consumption of alcoholic beverages. Studies that distinguish have found, at best, weak indications of relatively higher benefits from any particular tipple. I've lost fifty pounds drinking somewhat-more-than-moderate quantities of cheap red wine. As I have reached my goal weight (I can buy pants off the rack and I'm certin I can maintain this weight while resuming most of my indolent self indulgence) I'm having a nightly sake or beer. They have not negatively affected my weight. Ergo, when _I_ think that red wine, beer, my vast collection of single malt Scotch, and the occasional digestif grappa (or, for that matter, any equivalent in unsweetened alcoholic beverage) "belong as a regular part of a healthy weight-loss diet", I reach that conclusion based on solid repeatable soi-disant "scientific" evidence, both personally and professionally gathered. To the extent that you believe otherwise _for others_ YOU are "fooling yourself". I'm still losing, which pleases me. While beer (mmmmm, Pilsner) was an important part of my self-indulgent lifestyle, I have other priorities. I'll be experimenting with higher carb veggies, fruit, and the occasional slice of bread to discover how much of what I can eat without triggering the brutal unfocused food cravings that made me what I was last year. Martin (215/162/165 since 4/2003) -- Martin Golding Salad isn't _food_, salad is what food _eats_. KotLQ KotSM SMTC #2 member PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals) |
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Beer Carbohydrates - Anheuser-Busch Sets the Record Straight
People can lose weight on a diet of chocolate cake. That doesn't make it
healthy. People can lose weight on a diet of 100% alcohol. Plenty of people do it, but they are not exactly the epitome of health. If people are trying to lose weight, alcohol doesn't do anything but replace beneficial calories. If you are indeed consuming a very small quantity of alcohol per day, then you are making a choice of adding those useless calories to your diet, and that is part of your calorie intake. Most of the people posting here about alcohol are not having 70-100 calories of alcohol per day, they are talking about getting ****faced drunk and then saying "but that is ok on a low-carb diet". If they are indeed losing weight while consuming the several hundred (or thousand or more) calories of alcohol, then they are replacing healthful food intake with useless calories. It's all about choices. People get ****faced drunk and then say "but alcohol is fine on a low-carb diet, and besides it is good for your health". There are a lot of things people can do in life that are beneficial to health. I doubt that more than a tiny fraction of the people who "drink for health" are actually consuming the tiny amount that studies show can have negligible health benefits as opposed to drinking quantities that are well proven to be detrimental to health. Mark. "Martin Golding" wrote in message news On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 08:15:44 +0000, Marcusj wrote: Many years of alcoholism are the reason I am fat today. Many years of self-indulgent indolence are the reason I was fat last year. Today, I'd call myself "chubby". JC would call me a fat ****, in response to which I would wink, and raise my frothy stein for another toast. My drink of choice was usually beer. My drinks of choice were beer and Scotch. Mostly beer. If people want to think that beer or any alcoholic beverage for that matter actually belong as a regular part of a healthy weight-loss diet, they are only fooling themselves. All the studies I've seen indicate positive net health benefits for daily moderate consumption of alcoholic beverages. Studies that distinguish have found, at best, weak indications of relatively higher benefits from any particular tipple. I've lost fifty pounds drinking somewhat-more-than-moderate quantities of cheap red wine. As I have reached my goal weight (I can buy pants off the rack and I'm certin I can maintain this weight while resuming most of my indolent self indulgence) I'm having a nightly sake or beer. They have not negatively affected my weight. Ergo, when _I_ think that red wine, beer, my vast collection of single malt Scotch, and the occasional digestif grappa (or, for that matter, any equivalent in unsweetened alcoholic beverage) "belong as a regular part of a healthy weight-loss diet", I reach that conclusion based on solid repeatable soi-disant "scientific" evidence, both personally and professionally gathered. To the extent that you believe otherwise _for others_ YOU are "fooling yourself". I'm still losing, which pleases me. While beer (mmmmm, Pilsner) was an important part of my self-indulgent lifestyle, I have other priorities. I'll be experimenting with higher carb veggies, fruit, and the occasional slice of bread to discover how much of what I can eat without triggering the brutal unfocused food cravings that made me what I was last year. Martin (215/162/165 since 4/2003) -- Martin Golding Salad isn't _food_, salad is what food _eats_. KotLQ KotSM SMTC #2 member PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals) |
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Beer Carbohydrates - Anheuser-Busch Sets the Record Straight
Without *that* information, which the alcohol industry has been loathe to provide, beer can't fit even occassionally into a low-carb diet. The alcohol industry has NOTHING to do with the fact that their are no carbohydrate listings on beer, wine or booze. The federal government prohibits it. Get your facts straight. |
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Beer Carbohydrates - Anheuser-Busch Sets the Record Straight
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 10:40:41 +0000, Marcusj wrote: If people are trying to lose weight, alcohol doesn't do anything but replace beneficial calories. The actual evidence is much against you. I'd be happy to entertain evidence that agreed with you, if you were aware of any. If you are indeed consuming a very small quantity of alcohol per day, then you are making a choice of adding those useless calories to your diet, and that is part of your calorie intake. You use "useless" as an adjective here as if you mean something by it. Given that it is _absolutely certain_ that moderate consumption of alcohol is associated with improved health for most people, in what sense do YOU believe that you are using "useless" in that sentence? (How does one distinguish beneficial foods containing useful calories from beneficial foods containing useless calories, and can detailed chemical analysis help?) Most of the people posting here about alcohol are not having 70-100 calories of alcohol per day, 70-100 calories of is well under the certainly beneficial limit, and at least for red wine, under the certainly beneficial minimum. they are talking about getting ****faced Not one post in the thread to which you responded talked about anything of the sort, nor have I noticed any such post in any other thread. If you DO have some particular post or thread in mind, perhaps you should consider attaching your answer to that post in a reply to _that_ post. You might also consider applying your general knowledge, rather than your own specific circumstances, before making claims about best practices for other people. It is not unreasonable, given your stated background, that you would not be able to adopt a balanced view on the subject. It is unfortunate that you don't seem to be able to recognize that. Martin (215/162/165 since 4/2003) -- Martin Golding | Chop fast, bleed slow, DoD #236 DBS #1 MAB #2 UB #3 SMTC #3 KotLQ KotSM | and have another beer. |
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Beer Carbohydrates - Anheuser-Busch Sets the Record Straight
"Martin Golding" wrote in message
news On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 10:40:41 +0000, Marcusj wrote: If people are trying to lose weight, alcohol doesn't do anything but replace beneficial calories. The actual evidence is much against you. I'd be happy to entertain evidence that agreed with you, if you were aware of any. You have evidence that consumption of alcohol is beneficial to weight loss? Where is it? You feel that consuming several hundred (thousand) calories of alcohol per day while trying to lose weight is not either 1 - Replacing other calories that would be more healthful or 2 - Slowing weight loss because useless calories are being consumed. Where is the evidence that alcohol is somehow beneficial to a low-carb diet? Most of the people posting here about alcohol are not having 70-100 calories of alcohol per day, 70-100 calories of is well under the certainly beneficial limit, and at least for red wine, under the certainly beneficial minimum. "Certainly beneficial minimum"; what kind of nonsense is that? Non-alcoholic grape beverages have the same healthful benefits as red wine does; alcohol has nothing to do with it. There are proven health benefits to taking one 81mg aspirin per day, that is hardly a reason to down a dozen. they are talking about getting ****faced Not one post in the thread to which you responded talked about anything of the sort, nor have I noticed any such post in any other thread. If you DO have some particular post or thread in mind, perhaps you should consider attaching your answer to that post in a reply to _that_ post. You might also consider applying your general knowledge, rather than your own specific circumstances, before making claims about best practices for other people. In your own post in this very same thread you stated, "I've lost fifty pounds drinking somewhat-more-than-moderate quantities of cheap red wine." And yet you argue that you are not replacing more healthful foods with alcohol. "Somewhat-more-than-moderate" sounds ****faced to me, and the fact that you are using "cheap red wine" shows that you are doing it to get ****faced and not for "health benefits". Anyway, enough of this nonsense. Enjoy your more-than-moderate cheap red wine consumption and keep telling yourself that it is good for your health. Hell, drink twice as much, that makes it twice as good for you! Mark. |
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Beer Carbohydrates - Anheuser-Busch Sets the Record Straight
"Martin Golding" wrote in message
news It is not unreasonable, given your stated background, that you would not be able to adopt a balanced view on the subject. It is unfortunate that you don't seem to be able to recognize that. Martin, Over 50% of the posts you have made in this newsgroup are about alcohol, or you manage to bring alcohol into the discussion even when that is not the topic. You talk about having a 4-tap kegger in your frig at all times, about drinking cheap red wine, about drinking 1/2 or more of a bottle of wine per day while at the same time downing sour mash whiskey, various beers, etc. Yet I'm the one with no balanced view on the subject. Interesting. Enjoy your alcohol, and keep telling yourself it is healthy and belongs as a major part of a low-carb diet. Mark. |
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