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Lap Banding Journal - PJAD
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Lap Banding Journal - PJAD
"PJAD" wrote in message om... (Heywood Mogroot) wrote in message . com... (? cal) wrote in message ... Good for you!!!! i want to be banded also but at this time my insurance will not cover it. in the interim until they do, why don't you try eating less and exercising more? This is a serious question. Just a 500 kcal deficit each day should get you losing at 1lb/week. Not as dramatic as WLS survivors, but 50 lbs/yr is a very healthy rate of loss, and a 500 kcal shortfall doesn't require hunger pains if you eat smart and avoid empty calories. Hey Mogroot, I realize you have a serious power complex, however stop posting suggestive nonsense. snipWLS survivors/snip implying there is a significant fatality risk for Lapbanding is a load of ......! If you think you are so smart 'Dr 50lbs this 500Kcals that' - Then DO YOUR HOMEWORK ON THE STATISTICS BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR TRAP! Fatalities in the same time span are FAR greater in the Morbid patients that don't choose Lapband surgery. Your crummy maths 'energy vs. lbs' is flawed anyway. Why don't you look up the word metabolism? And then come back to the group and explain why cows get FAT eating FAT FREE grass. And why some guzzle-guts can down 2kgs of food in a day, with no exercising & no diseases stay STANDARD WEIGHT??? Your particular body, Mogroot, is probably in fine working order - which is why your weight responded in proportion to what you were eating and the energy you were burning. Stop talking for the masses (excuse the pun) and give your opinions a reality check - Because, Metabolic Syndrome is: Insulin resistance, Hyperinsulinism, Fatty Liver, Diabetes & Hypertension LINKED. Reason? UNKNOWN? Cure UNKNOWN? Treatment? MANY. Your solutions are old-school. Rethink the problem. It's not just mathematics. It's biology, it's chemistry. And now a lesson on psychology - Get a head check. PJAD. http://lapbandstory.blogspot.com After reading your blog entry posted below it seems that you didn't have a problem losing weight on a diet - you just didn't stick with it. "When I started working full-time, I didn't have the time to prepare my own meals daily. And that's where this diet gets unstuck. As soon as your carbs get over 30grams a day - the weight will pile on. That's because the Carbs then become the energy source - and the proteins & fats will just get stored. So in a way the Atkins diet didn't fail me, just my ability to follow it in the long term. SO... My analysis is this: If you follow the Atkins diet properly and strictly - then you will lose weight. If you don't follow the guidelines - your health will suffer. Your liver may even suffer. I put all my previous weight on and MORE! posted by PJAD " |
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Lap Banding Journal - PJAD
(PJAD) wrote in message . com...
(Heywood Mogroot) wrote in message . com... (? cal) wrote in message ... Good for you!!!! i want to be banded also but at this time my insurance will not cover it. in the interim until they do, why don't you try eating less and exercising more? This is a serious question. Just a 500 kcal deficit each day should get you losing at 1lb/week. Not as dramatic as WLS survivors, but 50 lbs/yr is a very healthy rate of loss, and a 500 kcal shortfall doesn't require hunger pains if you eat smart and avoid empty calories. Hey Mogroot, I realize you have a serious power complex, however stop posting suggestive nonsense. snipWLS survivors/snip implying there is a significant fatality risk for Lapbanding is a load of ......! I put lapbanding in a total different class than eg. RNY. I feel nobody should ever ever resort to an RNY, but I am open to the benefits of lap-band. Your crummy maths 'energy vs. lbs' is flawed anyway. Why don't you look up the word metabolism? And then come back to the group and explain why cows get FAT eating FAT FREE grass. because they graze all day on a high-carb diet. And why some guzzle-guts can down 2kgs of food in a day, with no exercising & no diseases stay STANDARD WEIGHT??? people have different metabolisms, different satiety responses. Your particular body, Mogroot, is probably in fine working order - which is why your weight responded in proportion to what you were eating and the energy you were burning. Stop talking for the masses (excuse the pun) and give your opinions a reality check - Because, Metabolic Syndrome is: Insulin resistance, Hyperinsulinism, Fatty Liver, Diabetes & Hypertension LINKED. I agree, and am curious about how the lap band enables people to lose weight where dieting fails them. Generally speaking I think dieters are looking for rapid solutions, while the gradual solution is much more healthy. I've read the blogs of RNY patients happy about losing 5% or 10% of their body weight in a month, and just see they are not looking at the full picture here -- what do you do when you finally lose all the weight you can? Will you have enough muscle tissue to be able to eat anything without regaining? Will you have lost so fast that you will have loose skin all over your body? My main point is that a 500 or 1000 kcal deficit each day need not be a living hell for most people, if they eat sensibly, since 2000 kcal a day or more should be enough for anyone to avoid any kind of hunger pains once their body adjusts to the new WOE. Now, lap-band basically FORCES you to eat sensibly, but I remain unconvinced that it is necessary to enable people to start losing a healthy 1 or 2 lbs per week, no more. And now a lesson on psychology - Get a head check. I don't care what you do with your body at all, and I wish you good luck on your choice. I do think that at this time lap-band is more expensive than other approaches, but am willing to wait on results before making any judgements on the matter. |
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(PJAD) wrote in message . com...
(Heywood Mogroot) wrote in message . com... (? cal) wrote in message ... Good for you!!!! i want to be banded also but at this time my insurance will not cover it. in the interim until they do, why don't you try eating less and exercising more? This is a serious question. Just a 500 kcal deficit each day should get you losing at 1lb/week. Not as dramatic as WLS survivors, but 50 lbs/yr is a very healthy rate of loss, and a 500 kcal shortfall doesn't require hunger pains if you eat smart and avoid empty calories. Hey Mogroot, I realize you have a serious power complex, however stop posting suggestive nonsense. snipWLS survivors/snip implying there is a significant fatality risk for Lapbanding is a load of ......! I put lapbanding in a total different class than eg. RNY. I feel nobody should ever ever resort to an RNY, but I am open to the benefits of lap-band. Your crummy maths 'energy vs. lbs' is flawed anyway. Why don't you look up the word metabolism? And then come back to the group and explain why cows get FAT eating FAT FREE grass. because they graze all day on a high-carb diet. And why some guzzle-guts can down 2kgs of food in a day, with no exercising & no diseases stay STANDARD WEIGHT??? people have different metabolisms, different satiety responses. Your particular body, Mogroot, is probably in fine working order - which is why your weight responded in proportion to what you were eating and the energy you were burning. Stop talking for the masses (excuse the pun) and give your opinions a reality check - Because, Metabolic Syndrome is: Insulin resistance, Hyperinsulinism, Fatty Liver, Diabetes & Hypertension LINKED. I agree, and am curious about how the lap band enables people to lose weight where dieting fails them. Generally speaking I think dieters are looking for rapid solutions, while the gradual solution is much more healthy. I've read the blogs of RNY patients happy about losing 5% or 10% of their body weight in a month, and just see they are not looking at the full picture here -- what do you do when you finally lose all the weight you can? Will you have enough muscle tissue to be able to eat anything without regaining? Will you have lost so fast that you will have loose skin all over your body? My main point is that a 500 or 1000 kcal deficit each day need not be a living hell for most people, if they eat sensibly, since 2000 kcal a day or more should be enough for anyone to avoid any kind of hunger pains once their body adjusts to the new WOE. Now, lap-band basically FORCES you to eat sensibly, but I remain unconvinced that it is necessary to enable people to start losing a healthy 1 or 2 lbs per week, no more. And now a lesson on psychology - Get a head check. I don't care what you do with your body at all, and I wish you good luck on your choice. I do think that at this time lap-band is more expensive than other approaches, but am willing to wait on results before making any judgements on the matter. |
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I wouldn't hold my breath about your insurance company ever covering it.
John Deere, my company, actually pulled WLS coverage from some plans it had in place, saying the surgery was too risky and unproven. I had also checked into WLS and was dismayed by this news. All these insurance companies and doctors screaming at us to lose weight, but closing all the doors to options. My plan still won't cover nutritional counseling, for goodness sake. I know, I know, we're supposed to have all this willpower to do it on out own. Good luck with that. Joanne † cal wrote: Good for you!!!! i want to be banded also but at this time my insurance will not cover it. cal |
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Joanne Logan wrote in message ...
My plan still won't cover nutritional counseling, for goodness sake. aka diet scams. Look, it was easy, for me at least. Figure out how much food calories you need to break even. Eat about 500kcal/day less than that. Add good muscle toning & cardio exercise if you want to lose faster. You'll start losing 1-2lbs/week. Continue this until you get where you want to be. Simple. I know, I know, we're supposed to have all this willpower to do it on out own. You're going to need just as much willpower even *after* a lapband. 1500kcal/day (or more, depending on your current metabolism) is a LOT of food to keep your stomach happy. If you can't find stomach happiness & a livable diet within these limits then you're doing something wrong. Mental happiness without all the crap food is another issue altogether. WLS doesn't necessarily address this -- you're still going to feel denied, but instead of being a mature adult you're going to intentionally **** up your physiology to keep you honest with yourself. Good luck with that. Worked for me... no willpower required, just commitment to getting to my goals. Obviously people are different, and I don't cook for a family, or have a lot of crap food in the house, so YMMV, but really I don't think weight loss needs to be the big drama-queen production it is, at least not for most people. Heywood 232/183/182 |
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