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Old September 19th, 2004, 10:02 PM
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Default Discussion of Body Mass Index, Obesity, Body Type, Waistline, Coronary Risk

Don Kirkman wrote in message . ..
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
in article 1095440008.lKa5KOq5PjCwLBlSx0KAuw@teranews:

Don Kirkman wrote:


There is a lengthy summary article discussing these issues, collecting
material from a number of sources, at


http://members.nuvox.net/~on.jwclymer/bmi.html


The article includes relevant formulas and summarizes some research in
chart form; it is so diverse I won't try to critique it but it appears
to rate waistline size and waist to height ratio fairly high as
practical measures of coronary risk.


FWIW, one observation in the article is that to lose one inch of
waistline a person will typically have to lose six to eight pounds of
body weight. Truth is simple, I guess--no formulas or anything. :-)


In truth, this is a formula with the constant (C) is given as being from
1/8 to 1/6 (inches/pound).


That is your interpretation;


This is the truth.

all you've done is take someone else's work
(that in the article, and my allusion to it), recast it, and sell it as
your own so you can claim there *is* a formula--


I'm not selling anything. Sorry you don't like the fact that what you
described was indeed a formula.

there was none in the
article I cited, because they were discussing it as a rule of thumb.


Some rules of thumb are formulae.

change in waistline = C * wtloss


A formula you admit has no basis but your own imagination.


A formula that works to predict the dependent variable as a function
of the independent variable.

Since you ask elsewhere.


Inches would be and example of a unit of length.


Oh, is *that* what that means?


Yes.

How droll. ;-)


Sorry the truth bores you.

How many units of
length can you name with your medical education?


An infinite number. Each multiple of an inch can be arbitrarily named
as a unit. Similar each foot, each yard, each meter, each centimeter,
nanometer, kilometer, et cetera.

Please answer this and
the rest of the questions in the thread where I asked them.


I have.

You remain in my prayers, dear Don whom I love.

May God bless you on this Lord's day.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

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Old September 19th, 2004, 10:33 PM
listener
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(Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD) wrote in
om:

Don Kirkman wrote in message
. ..
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
wrote in article 1095440008.lKa5KOq5PjCwLBlSx0KAuw@teranews:

Don Kirkman wrote:


There is a lengthy summary article discussing these issues,
collecting material from a number of sources, at


http://members.nuvox.net/~on.jwclymer/bmi.html

The article includes relevant formulas and summarizes some
research in chart form; it is so diverse I won't try to critique
it but it appears to rate waistline size and waist to height ratio
fairly high as practical measures of coronary risk.


FWIW, one observation in the article is that to lose one inch of
waistline a person will typically have to lose six to eight pounds
of body weight. Truth is simple, I guess--no formulas or
anything. :-)


In truth, this is a formula with the constant (C) is given as being
from 1/8 to 1/6 (inches/pound).


That is your interpretation;


This is the truth.

all you've done is take someone else's work
(that in the article, and my allusion to it), recast it, and sell it
as your own so you can claim there *is* a formula--


I'm not selling anything. Sorry you don't like the fact that what you
described was indeed a formula.

there was none in the
article I cited, because they were discussing it as a rule of thumb.


Some rules of thumb are formulae.

change in waistline = C * wtloss


A formula you admit has no basis but your own imagination.


A formula that works to predict the dependent variable as a function
of the independent variable.

Since you ask elsewhere.


Inches would be and example of a unit of length.


Oh, is *that* what that means?


Yes.

How droll. ;-)


Sorry the truth bores you.

How many units of
length can you name with your medical education?


An infinite number. Each multiple of an inch can be arbitrarily named
as a unit. Similar each foot, each yard, each meter, each centimeter,
nanometer, kilometer, et cetera.

Please answer this and
the rest of the questions in the thread where I asked them.


I have.

You remain in my prayers, dear Don whom I love.

May God bless you on this Lord's day.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048

What is all this about?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48

Is this spam?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867



Ahhh, further elucidation from the all-seeing, all-knowing, all-
discerning grand poobah of SMC.

L.
  #3  
Old September 19th, 2004, 10:33 PM
listener
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(Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD) wrote in
om:

Don Kirkman wrote in message
. ..
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
wrote in article 1095440008.lKa5KOq5PjCwLBlSx0KAuw@teranews:

Don Kirkman wrote:


There is a lengthy summary article discussing these issues,
collecting material from a number of sources, at


http://members.nuvox.net/~on.jwclymer/bmi.html

The article includes relevant formulas and summarizes some
research in chart form; it is so diverse I won't try to critique
it but it appears to rate waistline size and waist to height ratio
fairly high as practical measures of coronary risk.


FWIW, one observation in the article is that to lose one inch of
waistline a person will typically have to lose six to eight pounds
of body weight. Truth is simple, I guess--no formulas or
anything. :-)


In truth, this is a formula with the constant (C) is given as being
from 1/8 to 1/6 (inches/pound).


That is your interpretation;


This is the truth.

all you've done is take someone else's work
(that in the article, and my allusion to it), recast it, and sell it
as your own so you can claim there *is* a formula--


I'm not selling anything. Sorry you don't like the fact that what you
described was indeed a formula.

there was none in the
article I cited, because they were discussing it as a rule of thumb.


Some rules of thumb are formulae.

change in waistline = C * wtloss


A formula you admit has no basis but your own imagination.


A formula that works to predict the dependent variable as a function
of the independent variable.

Since you ask elsewhere.


Inches would be and example of a unit of length.


Oh, is *that* what that means?


Yes.

How droll. ;-)


Sorry the truth bores you.

How many units of
length can you name with your medical education?


An infinite number. Each multiple of an inch can be arbitrarily named
as a unit. Similar each foot, each yard, each meter, each centimeter,
nanometer, kilometer, et cetera.

Please answer this and
the rest of the questions in the thread where I asked them.


I have.

You remain in my prayers, dear Don whom I love.

May God bless you on this Lord's day.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048

What is all this about?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48

Is this spam?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867



Ahhh, further elucidation from the all-seeing, all-knowing, all-
discerning grand poobah of SMC.

L.
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Old September 20th, 2004, 05:05 PM
fresh~horses
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listener wrote in message ...
(Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD) wrote in
om:

Don Kirkman wrote in message
. ..
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
wrote in article 1095440008.lKa5KOq5PjCwLBlSx0KAuw@teranews:

Don Kirkman wrote:


There is a lengthy summary article discussing these issues,
collecting material from a number of sources, at


http://members.nuvox.net/~on.jwclymer/bmi.html

The article includes relevant formulas and summarizes some
research in chart form; it is so diverse I won't try to critique
it but it appears to rate waistline size and waist to height ratio
fairly high as practical measures of coronary risk.


FWIW, one observation in the article is that to lose one inch of
waistline a person will typically have to lose six to eight pounds
of body weight. Truth is simple, I guess--no formulas or
anything. :-)


In truth, this is a formula with the constant (C) is given as being
from 1/8 to 1/6 (inches/pound).

That is your interpretation;


This is the truth.

all you've done is take someone else's work
(that in the article, and my allusion to it), recast it, and sell it
as your own so you can claim there *is* a formula--


I'm not selling anything. Sorry you don't like the fact that what you
described was indeed a formula.

there was none in the
article I cited, because they were discussing it as a rule of thumb.


Some rules of thumb are formulae.

change in waistline = C * wtloss

A formula you admit has no basis but your own imagination.


A formula that works to predict the dependent variable as a function
of the independent variable.

Since you ask elsewhere.


Inches would be and example of a unit of length.

Oh, is *that* what that means?


Yes.

How droll. ;-)


Sorry the truth bores you.

How many units of
length can you name with your medical education?


An infinite number. Each multiple of an inch can be arbitrarily named
as a unit. Similar each foot, each yard, each meter, each centimeter,
nanometer, kilometer, et cetera.

Please answer this and
the rest of the questions in the thread where I asked them.


I have.

You remain in my prayers, dear Don whom I love.

May God bless you on this Lord's day.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048

What is all this about?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48

Is this spam?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867



Ahhh, further elucidation from the all-seeing, all-knowing, all-
discerning grand poobah of SMC.

L.




Ahhhh further blindly follow the foaming at the mouth masses from the
son of one who fled such.

Zee
  #5  
Old September 20th, 2004, 05:05 PM
fresh~horses
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listener wrote in message ...
(Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD) wrote in
om:

Don Kirkman wrote in message
. ..
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
wrote in article 1095440008.lKa5KOq5PjCwLBlSx0KAuw@teranews:

Don Kirkman wrote:


There is a lengthy summary article discussing these issues,
collecting material from a number of sources, at


http://members.nuvox.net/~on.jwclymer/bmi.html

The article includes relevant formulas and summarizes some
research in chart form; it is so diverse I won't try to critique
it but it appears to rate waistline size and waist to height ratio
fairly high as practical measures of coronary risk.


FWIW, one observation in the article is that to lose one inch of
waistline a person will typically have to lose six to eight pounds
of body weight. Truth is simple, I guess--no formulas or
anything. :-)


In truth, this is a formula with the constant (C) is given as being
from 1/8 to 1/6 (inches/pound).

That is your interpretation;


This is the truth.

all you've done is take someone else's work
(that in the article, and my allusion to it), recast it, and sell it
as your own so you can claim there *is* a formula--


I'm not selling anything. Sorry you don't like the fact that what you
described was indeed a formula.

there was none in the
article I cited, because they were discussing it as a rule of thumb.


Some rules of thumb are formulae.

change in waistline = C * wtloss

A formula you admit has no basis but your own imagination.


A formula that works to predict the dependent variable as a function
of the independent variable.

Since you ask elsewhere.


Inches would be and example of a unit of length.

Oh, is *that* what that means?


Yes.

How droll. ;-)


Sorry the truth bores you.

How many units of
length can you name with your medical education?


An infinite number. Each multiple of an inch can be arbitrarily named
as a unit. Similar each foot, each yard, each meter, each centimeter,
nanometer, kilometer, et cetera.

Please answer this and
the rest of the questions in the thread where I asked them.


I have.

You remain in my prayers, dear Don whom I love.

May God bless you on this Lord's day.

Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

Andrew

--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/

**
Who is the humblest person in the universe?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048

What is all this about?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R20632B48

Is this spam?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867



Ahhh, further elucidation from the all-seeing, all-knowing, all-
discerning grand poobah of SMC.

L.




Ahhhh further blindly follow the foaming at the mouth masses from the
son of one who fled such.

Zee
 




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