Could it have been the water?

On 11-Sep-2004, jmk wrote:

Perple Gyrl wrote:
"Ignoramus1166"

For me, personally, being attractive is nice,

How would you know?

hehe! Good point. We *have* seem photos...

Huh? What's wrong with how Ig looks? To refresh my memory I went and
looked up your pics Perple Gyrl, and yours too JMK.
Now I really don't get it.

Carmen

"Ignoramus8743" wrote in message
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In article , Elly wrote:

"Rachael Reynolds" ha scritto nel
messaggio ...
Elly's in Italy, AFAIK, so I guess it may be different there.

janice

Oh! lol. I detected the non-US and just assumed......

Rachael

Yes, Janice is right, I am in Italy. Pedometers are just not so popular
here... I actually never saw anyone wearing them...


you can do very well without a pedometer... Your watch is about as
good. If you know that you walked for 1 hour, that gives you pretty
much all knowledge you need.

i

You aren't getting the idea then of the "10K a day" using a pedometer. It's
not "let's go walk 10,000 steps and then sit on our ass in front of the
computer the rest of the day." The purpose of the pedometer is to gauge how
active you are in your daily routine activities. It makes you aware of ways
to be less sedentary overall. Many of us who do the pedometer challenge
actually take the pedometer *off* when we're doing a workout.

Looking at my watch isn't going to help me when I park at the end of the lot
across the street from the grocery store so that I have to walk a little
extra to get there. It isn't going to work when I hand deliver my football
pool sheets instead of stuffing mailboxes at work. It's not going to help
when I choose to use the restroom in a different wing of the building or use
stairs instead of an elevator.

The pedometer is a good way for people to see if they're making enough
little changes in their life to be an active human being. Because you don't
understand this challenge either does this mean you're going to spend all
kinds of time telling us how wonderful you are because you aren't doing it?

Jenn

"Chris Braun" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 10:25:50 -0400, Dally wrote:

My husband said the same thing last night: that he's really surprised I
chose to do it. Not that I did it once I chose to do it, but that I
CHOSE to do it. I never much cared about looks and I didn't really mind
being fat, so I see his point.

I am like you in this. I am also not very looks-conscious, and I was
quite happy being fat. (I do like clothes, but they have lots now in
big sizes :-).)

I tried to be happy when fat, but since the age of 8 I was told how horrible
it was that I was fat and how important it was for me to lose weight so it
was kind of drilled into my head. I did like myself and did what I could to
look clean, neat, and presentable. I had good relationships, was
well-liked, and successful. I also had lots of clothes

My motivators tended to be other people. My husband is a cutey who
works at a women's college in an upper-level position. I wanted him to
have suitable arm candy. He was just at the age and position where some
men start to think about trophy wives. I wanted the position. :-) (No
flames, please, my husband really does love me and he's worth keeping no
matter how that sounds. But I've seen too many women choose to keep the
fat and lose the husband and I didn't want to go that route.)

I didn't have this motivator. My husband is overweight himself -- has
always been -- and finds me attractive at any weight. He'd be the
last person in the world to stray, I think.

Same here. My husband had originally said that I looked good regardless of
my weight, until I went 10 lbs below my original goal. He finally spoke up
and told me that I was not attractive when I was that thin (though he
wouldn't stray). I was too obsessed with BMI at the time to care.

And then there's the episode I've written about here where my son showed
unexpected abdominal fat and I realized it was from the way we lived.
It's one thing for ME to be fat, it's another thing entirely to inflict
that on my children.

Nor do I have this motivator, as I don't have children.

I work with children all day long and the community has an obesity epidemic
with high diabetes rates. I like that the fact that I eat healthy and
exercise is a good role model.

I don't really have a good answer for why I did this, other than for
the challenge of it. I really began it because DH started a
calorie-counting eating plan, and I thought since we were going to go
to all this trouble I might as well try it myself.

My final motivation was that I was finally starting to have some health
related issues due to my weight. I didn't like the idea of taking BP meds
in my late 30's. That's probably why this time it actually worked and I've
been so motivated to make sure the weight doesn't all come back on.

Jenn

"janice" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 07:23:40 -0500, "JMA"
wrote:

I was just reading an article last night about a 2003 book about people
who
were successful in losing and maintaining weight. Some of the info came
from the national weight loss registry. Anyway, one of the
characteristics
they mentioned was that most of the successful people had a positive
attitude about their continued success. They were postitive they would do
it, not doubtful or self-critical. I believe the idea has a lot of merit
because I was also very positive I would succeed in spite of the odds and
they naysayers. I'm trying to put things in a positive light and have
that
be my mindset.

BTW, another characteristic was that they were on a WOE they could keep up
with forever. I'll dig up the article and get the name of the book if
you're interested. It is somewhere in the stack on my nightstand.

Jenn

Yes, I would be interested.

I can feel a big Amazon order coming on!

janice

I didn't read the book. It was mentioned in an article in Fitness magazine
(Oct. 2004) that discusses how hormones may create challenges for weight
loss and maintenance. The thing about maintenace that it discusses is
ghrelin and how a new study published in the New England Journal of Medicine
found that "diet-induced weight loss can cause ghrelin levels to jump as
much as 24%"
Interestingly enough, high ghrelin levels have also been found to be the
cause of diet induced amenorrhea in women. (this wasn't in the article but a
study I came across a while back).

Anyway, the book in question is called "Thin for Life:10 Keys to Success
from People Who Have Lost Weight and Kept It Off" by Anne Fletcher. Her
info is based on interviews with over 100 people. She found that a postive
outlook plays a key role in preventing rebound pounds.

"The national weight control registry researchers have found that successful
weight maintainers are less likely to indulge in negative thoughts regarding
their weight. They also weighed at least one a week (daily not necessary),
kept track of their diet, ate portion-controlled low-fat foods, refused to
give in to judgemental self-talk, viewed their new eating habits as
permanent and exercised on a regular basis." This is from the same article.

I'm not interested in defining success for anyone but myself, however I am
interested in what successful people are doing which is why I will probably
also be hitting up amazon for this book.

Jenn

Hi,

On 11-Sep-2004, Ignoramus8743
wrote:

orgot to say, I have not seen jmk's bikini shots... Anyone know the
URL? Perple gyrl's are at

http://community.webshots.com/album/103953096VmkSGi

so I am aware how she looks.

Here are her pics:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jmk446/album?.dir=/d5b3

Take care,
Carmen

"Ignoramus8743" wrote in message
...

I am beginning to fear your outstanding googling abilities... Thanks!

i

Yeah, google is real tough which is why I wait until my students are 9 years
old to teach it.

Jenn

Hi,
On 11-Sep-2004, Ignoramus8743
wrote:

In article , Carmen wrote:
Hi,

On 11-Sep-2004, Ignoramus8743
wrote:

orgot to say, I have not seen jmk's bikini shots... Anyone know
the
URL? Perple gyrl's are at

http://community.webshots.com/album/103953096VmkSGi

so I am aware how she looks.

Here are her pics:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jmk446/album?.dir=/d5b3

I am beginning to fear your outstanding googling abilities...
Thanks!

Google tough? Not unless it's done with your eyes closed and a
whopping migraine to boot. G

Take care,
Carmen

"Dally" wrote in message
...

My motivators tended to be other people. My husband is a cutey who
works at a women's college in an upper-level position. I wanted him to
have suitable arm candy. He was just at the age and position where some
men start to think about trophy wives. I wanted the position. :-) (No
flames, please, my husband really does love me and he's worth keeping no
matter how that sounds. But I've seen too many women choose to keep the
fat and lose the husband and I didn't want to go that route.)

Not me. If I don't motivate myself, no one else is going to do it!

Martha

"JMA" wrote in message
...

"Ignoramus8743" wrote in message
...

I am beginning to fear your outstanding googling abilities... Thanks!

i

Yeah, google is real tough which is why I wait until my students are 9
years
old to teach it.

Jenn

Well, he should fear googling his past posts, because then we'll have the
proof when he denies (as he is wont to do) he has said something in the
past.

One who is constantly trying to cover up past posts definitely has something
to hide.

Martha

"Dally" wrote in message
...

My motivators tended to be other people. My husband is a cutey who
works at a women's college in an upper-level position. I wanted him to
have suitable arm candy. He was just at the age and position where some
men start to think about trophy wives. I wanted the position. :-) (No
flames, please, my husband really does love me and he's worth keeping no
matter how that sounds. But I've seen too many women choose to keep the
fat and lose the husband and I didn't want to go that route.)

Not me. If I don't motivate myself, no one else is going to do it!

Martha