Atkins Diet May Have Killed Teen

James Lynx wrote:
Did you read that article? How can the Atkins diet be blamed for this?

The host on the call-in radio here did a show spewing out all the
same old crap about Atkins. The worst part was that she had
researched Atkins (I believe her -- she's generally really good
about that sort of thing) but obviously she didn't understand that
research well because she talked about never again being able to
eat onions or tomatoes or mushrooms. She allowed her callers to
spew the same old myths about Atkins (you know, we spend all day
shoving steak and eggs down our throats, then eating bacon-wrapped
butter and chugging down glasses of cream) without saying
anything. She kept saying things like "Atkins just doesn't let
you have enough fruits and fiber", but then dismissed a pro-Atkins
caller because "are you a doctor? no? Well, what do you know?"
I wish I'd had my phone with me so that I could call in.

I think that Atkins's biggest problem really gaining mainstream
trust is all of the misconceptions and myths that surround the
issue. If anything, what needs to happen is some real education
and information to the general public about what low-carb diets
are and aren't. I still recall radio commercials (on that same
radio station) with the doctor saying "I can show you how to lose
weight and eat all of the steaks, eggs, cheese, and real butter
that you want". That's the image that people have about Atkins.

--
- Drew Toronto, ON, Canada http://www.awh.org/
227/214/199 (interim goal)
"Mrs. Simpson, isn't it true that when no other food was
available, your husband once consumed a 10-pound bag of flour?"

Sadly, this will always be the case. Many of these reviews treat the
diet as a fanatical/radical approach which they claim cannot be
sustained.

How wrong they are. Unfortunately, low-carb has been misaligned by
the Atkins approach. Does anyone here remember back in 1996 Dr. Mauro
Di Pasqale's book for bodybuilders, the Anabolic diet? It too proved
usefull, but was misalinged as another high fat/no-carb diet. If
anything, this book created awareness of the low-carb diet in the
fitness industry and introduced, the TKD and CKD variants.

Obisidian

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:43:29 -0500, Drew Hamilton wrote:

James Lynx wrote:
Did you read that article? How can the Atkins diet be blamed for this?

The host on the call-in radio here did a show spewing out all the
same old crap about Atkins. The worst part was that she had
researched Atkins (I believe her -- she's generally really good
about that sort of thing) but obviously she didn't understand that
research well because she talked about never again being able to
eat onions or tomatoes or mushrooms. She allowed her callers to
spew the same old myths about Atkins (you know, we spend all day
shoving steak and eggs down our throats, then eating bacon-wrapped
butter and chugging down glasses of cream) without saying
anything. She kept saying things like "Atkins just doesn't let
you have enough fruits and fiber", but then dismissed a pro-Atkins
caller because "are you a doctor? no? Well, what do you know?"
I wish I'd had my phone with me so that I could call in.

I think that Atkins's biggest problem really gaining mainstream
trust is all of the misconceptions and myths that surround the
issue. If anything, what needs to happen is some real education
and information to the general public about what low-carb diets
are and aren't. I still recall radio commercials (on that same
radio station) with the doctor saying "I can show you how to lose
weight and eat all of the steaks, eggs, cheese, and real butter
that you want". That's the image that people have about Atkins.

On 21 Nov 2003 05:17:29 -0800, Lou wrote:

"Roger Zoul" wrote in message The Atkins diet
killed me too. But heaven has the fastest internet
connection around.....but I can't get any porn sites.

Try http://www.heavenlybodies.com actually not a porn site!

I still recall radio commercials (on that same
radio station) with the doctor saying "I can show you how to lose
weight and eat all of the steaks, eggs, cheese, and real butter
that you want". That's the image that people have about Atkins

That's because that's exactly the image that Atkins put out in his first two
bestselling diet books. It was only when other diet doctors started getting
a piece of the bestseller pie that he modified his message, took ideas from
their books, and modified his original pitch which was along the lines of
"imagine losing weight on a luxuriant diet filled with steaks and cream."

So the public misconceptions about Atkins diet are largely due to the way
Dr. Atkins pitched it for years. Those of you who have only read the most
recent books should dig up an old one at the public library and you'll see
what I'm talking about.

-- Jenny

Cut the carbs to respond to my new email address!
New photo: http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/jennypics.htm
Weight: 168.5/137
Diabetes Type II diagnosed 8/1998 -
HBa1c 5.2 10/03
Low Carb 9/1998 - 8/2001 and 11/10/02 - Now

http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean
How to calculate your need for protein * How much people really lose each
month * Water Weight Gain & Loss * The "Two Gram Cure" for Hunger Cravings
* Characteristics of Successful Dieters * Indispensible Low Carb Treats *
Should You Count that Low Impact Carb? * Curing Ketobreath * Exercise
Starting from Zero * Do Starch Blockers Work? * NEW! Why the Low Carb Diet
is Great for Diabetes * NEW! Low Carb Strategies for People with Diabetes


"Drew Hamilton" wrote in message
...
James Lynx wrote:
Did you read that article? How can the Atkins diet be blamed for this?

The host on the call-in radio here did a show spewing out all the
same old crap about Atkins. The worst part was that she had
researched Atkins (I believe her -- she's generally really good
about that sort of thing) but obviously she didn't understand that
research well because she talked about never again being able to
eat onions or tomatoes or mushrooms. She allowed her callers to
spew the same old myths about Atkins (you know, we spend all day
shoving steak and eggs down our throats, then eating bacon-wrapped
butter and chugging down glasses of cream) without saying
anything. She kept saying things like "Atkins just doesn't let
you have enough fruits and fiber", but then dismissed a pro-Atkins
caller because "are you a doctor? no? Well, what do you know?"
I wish I'd had my phone with me so that I could call in.

I think that Atkins's biggest problem really gaining mainstream
trust is all of the misconceptions and myths that surround the
issue. If anything, what needs to happen is some real education
and information to the general public about what low-carb diets
are and aren't. I still recall radio commercials (on that same
radio station) with the doctor saying "I can show you how to lose
weight and eat all of the steaks, eggs, cheese, and real butter
that you want". That's the image that people have about Atkins.

--
- Drew Toronto, ON, Canada http://www.awh.org/
227/214/199 (interim goal)
"Mrs. Simpson, isn't it true that when no other food was
available, your husband once consumed a 10-pound bag of flour?"

Obsidian wrote in message . ..
Sadly, this will always be the case. Many of these reviews treat the
diet as a fanatical/radical approach which they claim cannot be
sustained.

How wrong they are. Unfortunately, low-carb has been misaligned by
the Atkins approach. Does anyone here remember back in 1996 Dr. Mauro
Di Pasqale's book for bodybuilders, the Anabolic diet? It too proved
usefull, but was misalinged as another high fat/no-carb diet. If
anything, this book created awareness of the low-carb diet in the
fitness industry and introduced, the TKD and CKD variants.

Obisidian

Without Atkins there would be no LC revolution today. He championed
the cause for 3 decades. What exactly are you saying? Misaligned?
That's sounds like a problem with the front end of your car.



On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:43:29 -0500, Drew Hamilton wrote:

James Lynx wrote:
Did you read that article? How can the Atkins diet be blamed for this?

The host on the call-in radio here did a show spewing out all the
same old crap about Atkins. The worst part was that she had
researched Atkins (I believe her -- she's generally really good
about that sort of thing) but obviously she didn't understand that
research well because she talked about never again being able to
eat onions or tomatoes or mushrooms. She allowed her callers to
spew the same old myths about Atkins (you know, we spend all day
shoving steak and eggs down our throats, then eating bacon-wrapped
butter and chugging down glasses of cream) without saying
anything. She kept saying things like "Atkins just doesn't let
you have enough fruits and fiber", but then dismissed a pro-Atkins
caller because "are you a doctor? no? Well, what do you know?"
I wish I'd had my phone with me so that I could call in.

I think that Atkins's biggest problem really gaining mainstream
trust is all of the misconceptions and myths that surround the
issue. If anything, what needs to happen is some real education
and information to the general public about what low-carb diets
are and aren't. I still recall radio commercials (on that same
radio station) with the doctor saying "I can show you how to lose
weight and eat all of the steaks, eggs, cheese, and real butter
that you want". That's the image that people have about Atkins.

"Jenny" wrote in message ...
I still recall radio commercials (on that same
radio station) with the doctor saying "I can show you how to lose
weight and eat all of the steaks, eggs, cheese, and real butter
that you want". That's the image that people have about Atkins

That's because that's exactly the image that Atkins put out in his first two
bestselling diet books. It was only when other diet doctors started getting
a piece of the bestseller pie that he modified his message, took ideas from
their books, and modified his original pitch which was along the lines of
"imagine losing weight on a luxuriant diet filled with steaks and cream."

So the public misconceptions about Atkins diet are largely due to the way
Dr. Atkins pitched it for years. Those of you who have only read the most
recent books should dig up an old one at the public library and you'll see
what I'm talking about.

-- Jenny

Cut the carbs to respond to my new email address!
New photo: http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/jennypics.htm
Weight: 168.5/137
Diabetes Type II diagnosed 8/1998 -
HBa1c 5.2 10/03
Low Carb 9/1998 - 8/2001 and 11/10/02 - Now

http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean
How to calculate your need for protein * How much people really lose each
month * Water Weight Gain & Loss * The "Two Gram Cure" for Hunger Cravings
* Characteristics of Successful Dieters * Indispensible Low Carb Treats *
Should You Count that Low Impact Carb? * Curing Ketobreath * Exercise
Starting from Zero * Do Starch Blockers Work? * NEW! Why the Low Carb Diet
is Great for Diabetes * NEW! Low Carb Strategies for People with Diabetes


"Drew Hamilton" wrote in message
...
James Lynx wrote:
Did you read that article? How can the Atkins diet be blamed for this?

The host on the call-in radio here did a show spewing out all the
same old crap about Atkins. The worst part was that she had
researched Atkins (I believe her -- she's generally really good
about that sort of thing) but obviously she didn't understand that
research well because she talked about never again being able to
eat onions or tomatoes or mushrooms. She allowed her callers to
spew the same old myths about Atkins (you know, we spend all day
shoving steak and eggs down our throats, then eating bacon-wrapped
butter and chugging down glasses of cream) without saying
anything. She kept saying things like "Atkins just doesn't let
you have enough fruits and fiber", but then dismissed a pro-Atkins
caller because "are you a doctor? no? Well, what do you know?"
I wish I'd had my phone with me so that I could call in.

I think that Atkins's biggest problem really gaining mainstream
trust is all of the misconceptions and myths that surround the
issue. If anything, what needs to happen is some real education
and information to the general public about what low-carb diets
are and aren't. I still recall radio commercials (on that same
radio station) with the doctor saying "I can show you how to lose
weight and eat all of the steaks, eggs, cheese, and real butter
that you want". That's the image that people have about Atkins.

--
- Drew Toronto, ON, Canada http://www.awh.org/
227/214/199 (interim goal)
"Mrs. Simpson, isn't it true that when no other food was
available, your husband once consumed a 10-pound bag of flour?"


I don't know what Atkins books you've been reading, or even why, since
you do nothing buy try to discredit him and claim he didn't play the
key role in making LC successful. I first read his book in 1974 and
the whole concept and basis of the plan hasn't changed much at all.
Back then it was start at 20g carb a day, then increase by 5g each
week, just as it is today. He spelled out that eating salad, low carb
vegetables, etc. was part of the plan.

The only ones I've seen focusing on all the foods rich in fat are the
media who almost never present the concept fairly. They show some guy
with a refrigerator full of pork chops, sitting at the table eating
steak covered in butter.

"James Lynx" wrote ...
There are people who
have been eating fatty and fried food for the past 50 years and still
around

My grandmother's been eating bread & dripping all her life ... she'll be 94
in a couple of weeks!

)


Rachel
(New Zealand)

"Lorraine" wrote ...

http://members.cox.net/impunity/endofworld.swf


hehehehe that's excellent!


Rachel
(New Zealand)

"Drew Hamilton" wrote ...
butter and chugging down glasses of cream) without saying

LOL

Actually I just had coffee made with cream (like a latte, but with cream not
milk) and it was deeeelicious! A whole cup of cream ... (hey, I needed to
have something with my metformin ...)

P


Rachel
(New Zealand)

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:29:02 +1300, "Supergoof"
wrote:

"James Lynx" wrote ...
There are people who
have been eating fatty and fried food for the past 50 years and still
around

My grandmother's been eating bread & dripping all her life ... she'll be 94
in a couple of weeks!

)


Rachel
(New Zealand)


What is dripping?

meme