2nd Time Around

Most of the people I know that lift weights don't have a problem with it.
Perhaps there's a connection.

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Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

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"Luna" wrote in message
...
I wonder what the difference is, then, because I've seen this "second time
around" problem often on this group. Maybe you keep up your exercise even
when you go off low-carb, and others don't? Maybe when you go back on
low-carb you are stricter with calories than others? I know that when I
started low-carb I ate quite a lot of food and still lost weight, it was
relatively recently that I had to start limiting calories as well. Maybe
second timers need to limit calories right from the beginning in order to
see a loss. Whatever the reason for the difference is, since you are the
only person I've seen on here who did not have difficulty losing again
after going off low-carb, it makes me want to _never_ go off it.


In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

I have in the past, and generally speaking, yes.

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Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

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"Luna" wrote in message
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Yeah, but when you go off, do you overeat and gain fat?

In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

That's just idiotic.

I've gone on and off a low carb diet several times and the results
have
always been roughly the same.

If you're getting different results, then something about the
variables
is
different.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW


"Kalish" wrote in message
...

I read a book called "How I stopped dieting and lost 40 pounds
eating
low carb" (or something like that). The author said at the
beginning
that the first time you try lowcarbing, you're given the "golden
key"
- but it's a oneshot deal - if you fall off the wagon and then try
again later, it's much harder. It's definitely a known
phenomenon.
Kalish


--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

I agree with everyone who said you are not getting enough veggies.

Your menu is not an Induction menu. If you are restarting, you should
start Induction, not OWL.

Lose the tortillas. Add huge green leafy salads w/ cucumber. And drink
copious amounts of water. All day long. Keep drinking water. Water water
water.

And I must reiterate what others have said: use www.fitday.com to track
*every morsel* of food you ingest.

Oh...and exercise! I walk, stretch and do Jorge Cruise's 8 Minutes in
the Morning (which includes weights).

If after correcting these things, you still don't see any weight loss or
changes in measurements, then you might consider a Fat Fast:
http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/21-237659.html

HTH

Deb
260/209/135
June 2002 - 260; Dec 2002 - 210; March 2004 - 230
Goal for May 31 - 209, reached on May 30


Dave wrote:
Hi guys

My wife and I have started Atkins again after a couple of years break. Last
time we did it we lost loads of weight and inches and it was a complete
success.

Unfortunately we couldn't stick to it as my wife has a mega sweet tooth and
the low carb deserts and chocky just didn't taste the same. My vice is Beer,
Potatoes and Bread.

We have been good since we restarted two weeks ago but neither of us have
lost weight. We went out last night for a meal and the waitress guessed we
were low carbing from our menu choices. She said the same thing that
starting the diet for a second time wasn't as good.

In fact everybody I meet who has done Atkins say they stopped and tried to
re-start and it doesn't work.

I read somewhere that the body is once bitten twice shy in that the first
time it switches to fat burn mode but the second time it is reluctant to.

Breakfast
Normally consists of Bacon & Eggs
Lunch
Cold meat from cuts of meat from our local organic farm.
Cheese in moderation.
Low carb tortillas from our low carb shop in UK.
Dinner
Cooked meats and low carb recipes.

We are both very active and drink lots of liquids. We do also drink the
occasional Caffeine Free Diet Coke which contains Aspartame, could this have
any effect?

We have bought a brilliant Dr Atkins cookbook which is illustrated. The
ingredients and measures are all in UK terminology as apposed to the Atkins
book refers to American terminology e.g.: Heavy Cream etc...

Anybody got any suggestions to help us on our low carb weight loss before we
slip back into our old ways due to no weight loss?

Thanks in advance.

Dave & Emily

"Luna" wrote in message
...

I wonder what the difference is, then, because I've seen this "second time
around" problem often on this group.

I recall in an Atkins book a statement to the effect that increased age can
affect the body's response to the low-carb diet. Perhaps this is a
contributing factor?

"Jim Bard" wrote in message
...

"Luna" wrote in message
...

I wonder what the difference is, then, because I've seen this "second
time
around" problem often on this group.

I recall in an Atkins book a statement to the effect that increased age
can
affect the body's response to the low-carb diet. Perhaps this is a
contributing factor?


Jim

I am 33 and was 29 when i last did the diet. Of course I eat veggies, when I
say low carb recipies they include vegies. Vegies include Cauliflower,
brocoli, spinach etc..

Gonna try drowning in water and increase fat for protein.

Dave

I went off Atkins for 6 months and went back on and it wasn't a problem
to lose at all again.
I just started at day one with induction just like I did before.
Susie

I wonder what the difference is, then, because I've seen this "second time
around" problem often on this group. Maybe you keep up your exercise even
when you go off low-carb, and others don't? Maybe when you go back on
low-carb you are stricter with calories than others? I know that when I
started low-carb I ate quite a lot of food and still lost weight, it was
relatively recently that I had to start limiting calories as well. Maybe
second timers need to limit calories right from the beginning in order to
see a loss. Whatever the reason for the difference is, since you are the
only person I've seen on here who did not have difficulty losing again
after going off low-carb, it makes me want to _never_ go off it.

"Luna" wrote in message
That's just idiotic.

I've gone on and off a low carb diet several times and the results
have
always been roughly the same.

If you're getting different results, then something about the
variables
is
different.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW



OK LUNA........take it away hun!! Blast him!!! lol......

what can you possibly say her sweetie...........JC.........now I have the
same "kind of respect" (not the sweat on the balls though!!!!,
but........ehhhhhhh........LUNA...... you go girl!!!!!!!!!)

I can't wait to read the replies......sweetie!!!!!!!!

deeder ( your friendly canadian friend!!!) hey if they are attacking,
remember to contact me...I will no matter what I think of you come to your
rescue......
GB is a bad bad example...........xo

deeder

"Luna" wrote in message
...
I wonder what the difference is, then, because I've seen this "second time
around" problem often on this group. Maybe you keep up your exercise even
when you go off low-carb, and others don't? Maybe when you go back on
low-carb you are stricter with calories than others? I know that when I
started low-carb I ate quite a lot of food and still lost weight, it was
relatively recently that I had to start limiting calories as well. Maybe
second timers need to limit calories right from the beginning in order to
see a loss. Whatever the reason for the difference is, since you are the
only person I've seen on here who did not have difficulty losing again
after going off low-carb, it makes me want to _never_ go off it.


In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

I have in the past, and generally speaking, yes.

--

Eat less, exercise more. -- MFW

--
"Luna" wrote in message
...
Yeah, but when you go off, do you overeat and gain fat?

In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

That's just idiotic.

I've gone on and off a low carb diet several times and the results
have
always been roughly the same.

If you're getting different results, then something about the
variables
is
different.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW


"Kalish" wrote in message
...

I read a book called "How I stopped dieting and lost 40 pounds
eating
low carb" (or something like that). The author said at the
beginning
that the first time you try lowcarbing, you're given the "golden
key"
- but it's a oneshot deal - if you fall off the wagon and then try
again later, it's much harder. It's definitely a known
phenomenon.
Kalish


--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

I can't imagine Luna ever needing someone like you to "rescue" her from
anything. She is a very "together" young woman, articulate and analytical,
strong and competent.

In news:MMzuc.631212$Ig.65699@pd7tw2no,
deeder stated
|
| OK LUNA........take it away hun!! Blast him!!! lol......
|
| what can you possibly say her sweetie...........JC.........now I have
| the same "kind of respect" (not the sweat on the balls though!!!!,
| but........ehhhhhhh........LUNA...... you go girl!!!!!!!!!)
|
| I can't wait to read the replies......sweetie!!!!!!!!
|
| deeder ( your friendly canadian friend!!!) hey if they are attacking,
| remember to contact me...I will no matter what I think of you come to
| your rescue......
| GB is a bad bad example...........xo
|
| deeder
|

"FOB" wrote in message
m...
I can't imagine Luna ever needing someone like you to "rescue" her from
anything. She is a very "together" young woman, articulate and
analytical,
strong and competent.

I think you're right.

If a big, tough, Marine ever crossed paths with her, he might need help.

In article MMzuc.631212$Ig.65699@pd7tw2no, "deeder"
wrote:

"Luna" wrote in message
That's just idiotic.

I've gone on and off a low carb diet several times and the results
have
always been roughly the same.

If you're getting different results, then something about the
variables
is
different.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW



OK LUNA........take it away hun!! Blast him!!! lol......

what can you possibly say her sweetie...........JC.........now I have the
same "kind of respect" (not the sweat on the balls though!!!!,
but........ehhhhhhh........LUNA...... you go girl!!!!!!!!!)

I can't wait to read the replies......sweetie!!!!!!!!

deeder ( your friendly canadian friend!!!) hey if they are attacking,
remember to contact me...I will no matter what I think of you come to your
rescue......
GB is a bad bad example...........xo

deeder



I didn't write that. JC wrote that.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

In article ,
"Jim Bard" wrote:

"FOB" wrote in message
m...
I can't imagine Luna ever needing someone like you to "rescue" her from
anything. She is a very "together" young woman, articulate and
analytical,
strong and competent.

I think you're right.

If a big, tough, Marine ever crossed paths with her, he might need help.



Wow. I must write tougher than I am, I'm a wimp actually. You should have
seen me bawling last night when I watched "Fly Away Home" for like, the
tenth time.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.