Benefits of reaching "ideal weight"?

Since you don't LC, why post this here?

Ignoramus14934 wrote:
:: This post is inspired in part by Dr Roy Walford's 120 year diet book.
:: It advocates, based on Roy Walford's and others' exeriments with
:: mammals, that being underweight prolongs life and improves health. He
:: did these experiments at UCLA, where he works. He calls it a fancy
:: name "calorie restriction". The diet that he advocates is high in
:: what he considers valuable nutrients, but low in calories.

Then why does he refer to it as being underweight? It if prolongs life and
improves health, the that is ideal weight, imo.

::
:: I am 176 lbs, which makes me within the top of the normal weight
:: interval. However, based on some ideal weight tables, for a small
:: boned person such as myself, the ideal weight for me would be more
:: like 160 lbs. And that makes sense, given that I still have a decent
:: amount of fat. Being relatively fit (according to military
:: standards), I do not feel that having much more muscle would be of
:: benefit to me.

Good for you.

::
:: To the caliper purists. I agree that I need to measure my body fat
:: and go by bodyfat instead of pounds and BMI. I suspect strongly
:: though (based on the mirror test) that the answer from a bodyfat
:: percentage standpoint would be the same, that I have more fat than
:: ideal.

What does Dr. Roy say?

::
:: The question is, given all this, would losing 16 more lbs to reach my
:: ideal weight make me better off, health wise.

Dr. Roy says it will, right? Why ask here? Do you think there are some
here who have been following calorie restriction and have reached 120 years
in age?

::
:: Also, if the answer is yes, would it be a good idea to lose this
:: weight extremely slowly, such as 1 lb a month. Since I have "normal"
:: weight, I do not feel that I should be in a big hurry.

Well, given that you're looking to be 120 years old one day, you ought to
have plenty of time.

::
:: Any thoughts on it will be appreciated.
::
:: i

Once upon a time, our fellow Roger Zoul
rambled on about " Benefits of reaching "ideal weight"?."
Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

Dr. Roy says it will, right? Why ask here? Do you think there are some
here who have been following calorie restriction and have reached 120 years
in age?

Anybody expecting to live past the age of 120 belongs on the funny
farm, IMHO.
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John 'the Man' wrote:
Roger Zoul wrote:

Dr. Roy says it will, right? Why ask here? Do you think there are some
here who have been following calorie restriction and have reached 120 years
in age?

Anybody expecting to live past the age of 120 belongs on the funny
farm, IMHO.

Chuckle. Possible vs likely, right. Every so often the newspapers report
the death of someone well over 120. The reports that I recall have come
from all over the world.

So it would seem that at any one time there are probably one or more people
in the world over 120. Thus it is *possible* to live past 120.

But the fact that their deaths are considered noteworthy by there rarity
says that the *likelyhood* that any one person will survive to 120 is
very low indeed. A few in several billion. Expecting to be one in a
billion is indeed crazy.

On 6 Nov 2003 08:43:06 -0800, Doug Freyburger wrote:

John 'the Man' wrote:
Roger Zoul wrote:

Dr. Roy says it will, right? Why ask here? Do you think there are
some
here who have been following calorie restriction and have reached 120
years
in age?

Anybody expecting to live past the age of 120 belongs on the funny
farm, IMHO.

Chuckle. Possible vs likely, right. Every so often the newspapers
report
the death of someone well over 120. The reports that I recall have come
from all over the world.

So it would seem that at any one time there are probably one or more
people
in the world over 120. Thus it is *possible* to live past 120.

But the fact that their deaths are considered noteworthy by there rarity
says that the *likelyhood* that any one person will survive to 120 is
very low indeed. A few in several billion. Expecting to be one in a
billion is indeed crazy.

And it's likely genetic. My grandfather was an alcoholic for many years,
ate a horrible diet (by any standard), smoked unfiltered cigarettes for
30+ years, never exercised, was and remains obese, and yet is in his mid
80s. His sister and he are the only surviving kids of a 6- or 8-kid
family.

He's done nothing "right" yet is older than most. It makes me wonder how
long he'd live if he'd exercised, ate "right," etc. Maybe not longer.

--
Bob M in CT
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"John 'the Man'" wrote in message
...
Once upon a time, our fellow Ignoramus909
rambled on about " Benefits of reaching "ideal weight"?."
Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

But the fact that their deaths are considered noteworthy by there
rarity
says that the *likelyhood* that any one person will survive to 120 is
very low indeed. A few in several billion. Expecting to be one in a
billion is indeed crazy.

I agree. Even improving lifespan by 8-10 years would be a tremendous
accomplishment, if these 10 years can be lived meaningfully. Meaning
that the person is alert, mobile, etc.

The term is 'aging successfully.' And, Jack LaLanne at age 89 is a
good role model.

Just my opinion. But, I am *right* as usual!

Julia Child is in her 90s. She doesn't do strenuous exercise, has eaten rich
foods all of her life. A lot depends upon one's attitude.

Martha

Once upon a time, our fellow MH
rambled on about " Benefits of reaching "ideal weight"?."
Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

Julia Child is in her 90s. She doesn't do strenuous exercise, has eaten rich
foods all of her life. A lot depends upon one's attitude.

A health role model means somebody that if you try to emulate will
provide you with direct health benefits. If the choice is between
Julia and Jack, I would go with Jack.

Just thought that you might want to know.

John 'the Man' wrote:

Once upon a time, our fellow MH
rambled on about " Benefits of reaching "ideal weight"?."
Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

Julia Child is in her 90s. She doesn't do strenuous exercise, has eaten rich
foods all of her life. A lot depends upon one's attitude.

A health role model means somebody that if you try to emulate will
provide you with direct health benefits. If the choice is between
Julia and Jack, I would go with Jack.

i wouldn't. he may be fit, but he's a nut.

he lives locally, and he's on the local news once a week showing us all
how to do an exercise or juice a melon or something. he's fit, but he's
a nut.

-Once upon a time, our fellow The Queen of Cans and Jars
rambled on about " Benefits of reaching "ideal weight"?."
Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

i wouldn't. he may be fit, but he's a nut.

he lives locally, and he's on the local news once a week showing us all
how to do an exercise or juice a melon or something. he's fit, but he's
a nut.

So?

One amusing story about Jack is about both he and his wife once
attempted to climb Mount Everest. Jack insisted on exercising every
day of the climb by doing jumping jacks. To the professional mountain
climbers in his mountain climbing party, Jack must have looked like
some kind of a nut. But, if you are familiar with Jack's claim of
starting out each day of his life with exercise his need for
exercising at high attitudes was very understandable even if he ended
up being carried down the mountain in a stretcher.

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

Old people need a reason to live, and Jack has got his exercising and
health business.

John 'the Man' wrote:

-Once upon a time, our fellow The Queen of Cans and Jars
rambled on about " Benefits of reaching "ideal weight"?."
Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

i wouldn't. he may be fit, but he's a nut.

he lives locally, and he's on the local news once a week showing us all
how to do an exercise or juice a melon or something. he's fit, but he's
a nut.

So?

i'd rather not be a nut. and i like julia child.

One amusing story about Jack is about both he and his wife once
attempted to climb Mount Everest. Jack insisted on exercising every
day of the climb by doing jumping jacks. To the professional mountain
climbers in his mountain climbing party, Jack must have looked like
some kind of a nut. But, if you are familiar with Jack's claim of
starting out each day of his life with exercise his need for
exercising at high attitudes was very understandable even if he ended
up being carried down the mountain in a stretcher.

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

Old people need a reason to live, and Jack has got his exercising and
health business.

he's a nut. a very fit nut.

Once upon a time, our fellow The Queen of Cans and Jars
rambled on about " Benefits of reaching "ideal weight"?."
Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

Old people need a reason to live, and Jack has got his exercising and
health business.

he's a nut. a very fit nut.

He is a live nut, ... with a very high quality of life.

Just thought that you might want to know.