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Old March 29th, 2004, 03:49 AM
Alex
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Hi everyone,

This is kind of a last ditch effort to get my health and diet back on
track. I'm almost 30, my weight is 275, male, and my cholesterol is
around 180. One problem though is my blood pressure, which stays
around 120-140/80-90.

So now the diet debate. I've had good luck on the low-carb diet,
loosing 15 pounds already this year, but I'm wanting to make a true
change in my eating habits. Even though the meats, eggs, etc are nice
and I have a good tasty variety, I'm thinking it might be better to go
with a more traditional diet (fruits, veggies, etc). I'm also hoping
to start lifting weights and plan to set-up time with a weight trainer
a few times a week.

So back to the diet question... for the 'experts' out there, for
someone who wants to do more then simply loose weight, what diet route
would you guys suggest?

As for goals, this is a long-haul diet. I want something that's not
too unrestrictive. With the carbs diet, no breads, pastas, etc, but
with the low-fat diet, I think I can maybe have a small splurge meal
every so often. Also, my longterm goals are to drop around 60-70
pounds, but I'm not expecting that anytime soon. I want to not only
get physically healthy, but feel healthy too. On the low-carbs diet,
though I do loose weight, I still feel unhealthy. But maybe it's just
me.

Comments and suggestions please.. thanks,

Alex.
  #2  
Old March 29th, 2004, 04:01 AM
JC Der Koenig
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You don't have what it takes. Resign yourself to being fat and unhealthy for
the rest of your life.

--
"If I can't *count* the carbs, it can't be part of a
low-carb diet." --- jpatti


"Alex" wrote in message
om...
Hi everyone,

This is kind of a last ditch effort to get my health and diet back on
track. I'm almost 30, my weight is 275, male, and my cholesterol is
around 180. One problem though is my blood pressure, which stays
around 120-140/80-90.

So now the diet debate. I've had good luck on the low-carb diet,
loosing 15 pounds already this year, but I'm wanting to make a true
change in my eating habits. Even though the meats, eggs, etc are nice
and I have a good tasty variety, I'm thinking it might be better to go
with a more traditional diet (fruits, veggies, etc). I'm also hoping
to start lifting weights and plan to set-up time with a weight trainer
a few times a week.

So back to the diet question... for the 'experts' out there, for
someone who wants to do more then simply loose weight, what diet route
would you guys suggest?

As for goals, this is a long-haul diet. I want something that's not
too unrestrictive. With the carbs diet, no breads, pastas, etc, but
with the low-fat diet, I think I can maybe have a small splurge meal
every so often. Also, my longterm goals are to drop around 60-70
pounds, but I'm not expecting that anytime soon. I want to not only
get physically healthy, but feel healthy too. On the low-carbs diet,
though I do loose weight, I still feel unhealthy. But maybe it's just
me.

Comments and suggestions please.. thanks,

Alex.



  #3  
Old March 29th, 2004, 10:27 AM
Sseaott
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Default Diet suggestions please...

ATTENTION EVERYONE!

After doing some research, I have discovered JC's weight. How does 4 big
ones sound? Now I understand why she is so bitter! How sad...

BITCH, you are the LAST one to talk about anyone being fat!


"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
m...
You don't have what it takes. Resign yourself to being fat and unhealthy

for
the rest of your life.

--
"If I can't *count* the carbs, it can't be part of a
low-carb diet." --- jpatti


"Alex" wrote in message
om...
Hi everyone,

This is kind of a last ditch effort to get my health and diet back on
track. I'm almost 30, my weight is 275, male, and my cholesterol is
around 180. One problem though is my blood pressure, which stays
around 120-140/80-90.

So now the diet debate. I've had good luck on the low-carb diet,
loosing 15 pounds already this year, but I'm wanting to make a true
change in my eating habits. Even though the meats, eggs, etc are nice
and I have a good tasty variety, I'm thinking it might be better to go
with a more traditional diet (fruits, veggies, etc). I'm also hoping
to start lifting weights and plan to set-up time with a weight trainer
a few times a week.

So back to the diet question... for the 'experts' out there, for
someone who wants to do more then simply loose weight, what diet route
would you guys suggest?

As for goals, this is a long-haul diet. I want something that's not
too unrestrictive. With the carbs diet, no breads, pastas, etc, but
with the low-fat diet, I think I can maybe have a small splurge meal
every so often. Also, my longterm goals are to drop around 60-70
pounds, but I'm not expecting that anytime soon. I want to not only
get physically healthy, but feel healthy too. On the low-carbs diet,
though I do loose weight, I still feel unhealthy. But maybe it's just
me.

Comments and suggestions please.. thanks,

Alex.





  #4  
Old March 30th, 2004, 03:25 AM
Evelyn Ruut
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"Sseaott" SseaottATcomcastDOTnet wrote in message
...
ATTENTION EVERYONE!

After doing some research, I have discovered JC's weight. How does 4 big
ones sound? Now I understand why she is so bitter! How sad...

BITCH, you are the LAST one to talk about anyone being fat!




Then she is more deserving of our compassion than our hatred. You should
realize that people who are experiencing that kind of self loathing will
often be angry and strike out at others. She needs a hug more than our
contempt. Offer her loving thoughts and surround her with white light in
your mind. If it is your inclination to do so, say a prayer for her to
gain wisdom and to find a way to control her world.
--
Evelyn

(To reply to me personally, remove sox)



"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
m...
You don't have what it takes. Resign yourself to being fat and unhealthy

for
the rest of your life.




  #5  
Old March 30th, 2004, 04:09 AM
JC Der Koenig
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Don't tell me, let me guess...

You're a vegetarian?

--
"If I can't *count* the carbs, it can't be part of a
low-carb diet." --- jpatti


"Evelyn Ruut" wrote in message
...

"Sseaott" SseaottATcomcastDOTnet wrote in message
...
ATTENTION EVERYONE!

After doing some research, I have discovered JC's weight. How does 4

big
ones sound? Now I understand why she is so bitter! How sad...

BITCH, you are the LAST one to talk about anyone being fat!




Then she is more deserving of our compassion than our hatred. You should
realize that people who are experiencing that kind of self loathing will
often be angry and strike out at others. She needs a hug more than our
contempt. Offer her loving thoughts and surround her with white light in
your mind. If it is your inclination to do so, say a prayer for her to
gain wisdom and to find a way to control her world.
--
Evelyn

(To reply to me personally, remove sox)



"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
m...
You don't have what it takes. Resign yourself to being fat and

unhealthy
for
the rest of your life.






  #6  
Old April 16th, 2004, 02:20 PM
Mirek Fidler
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Don't tell me, let me guess...

You're a vegetarian?


LOL

Mirek


  #7  
Old March 29th, 2004, 05:24 PM
That T Woman
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Default Diet suggestions please...

Just a suggestion, if you don't want to go on a low carb diet, don't post to
the low-carb group. They are "invested" in it and won't give you good
advice on a wide-spectrum "balanced" diet.

Tonia (posting from alt.support.diet.)
221/189/130


"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
m...
You don't have what it takes. Resign yourself to being fat and unhealthy

for
the rest of your life.

--
"If I can't *count* the carbs, it can't be part of a
low-carb diet." --- jpatti


"Alex" wrote in message
om...
Hi everyone,

This is kind of a last ditch effort to get my health and diet back on
track. I'm almost 30, my weight is 275, male, and my cholesterol is
around 180. One problem though is my blood pressure, which stays
around 120-140/80-90.

So now the diet debate. I've had good luck on the low-carb diet,
loosing 15 pounds already this year, but I'm wanting to make a true
change in my eating habits. Even though the meats, eggs, etc are nice
and I have a good tasty variety, I'm thinking it might be better to go
with a more traditional diet (fruits, veggies, etc). I'm also hoping
to start lifting weights and plan to set-up time with a weight trainer
a few times a week.

So back to the diet question... for the 'experts' out there, for
someone who wants to do more then simply loose weight, what diet route
would you guys suggest?

As for goals, this is a long-haul diet. I want something that's not
too unrestrictive. With the carbs diet, no breads, pastas, etc, but
with the low-fat diet, I think I can maybe have a small splurge meal
every so often. Also, my longterm goals are to drop around 60-70
pounds, but I'm not expecting that anytime soon. I want to not only
get physically healthy, but feel healthy too. On the low-carbs diet,
though I do loose weight, I still feel unhealthy. But maybe it's just
me.

Comments and suggestions please.. thanks,

Alex.





  #8  
Old March 29th, 2004, 09:49 PM
Roger Zoul
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Default Diet suggestions please...

That T Woman wrote:
:: Just a suggestion, if you don't want to go on a low carb diet, don't
:: post to the low-carb group. They are "invested" in it and won't
:: give you good advice on a wide-spectrum "balanced" diet.

Sure we will. There is a such thing as a wide-specturm "balanced" diet,
that includes meat, fish, fowl, veggies, fruit, and limited grains that is
still low carb.

::
:: Tonia (posting from alt.support.diet.)
:: 221/189/130


  #9  
Old March 29th, 2004, 10:00 PM
Bob in CT
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:49:15 -0500, Roger Zoul
wrote:

That T Woman wrote:
:: Just a suggestion, if you don't want to go on a low carb diet, don't
:: post to the low-carb group. They are "invested" in it and won't
:: give you good advice on a wide-spectrum "balanced" diet.

Sure we will. There is a such thing as a wide-specturm "balanced" diet,
that includes meat, fish, fowl, veggies, fruit, and limited grains that
is
still low carb.

::
:: Tonia (posting from alt.support.diet.)
:: 221/189/130



What makes a diet that high on carbs "balanced" anyway? In what way is
eating 70% of your calories from carbs "balanced"? In what way is eating
5-11 servings of pasta and bread yet only eating 5-9 servings of fruits
and vegetables balanced? In fact, how can you call it "balanced" when
it's described by a pyramid? If anything, it's highly unbalanced.

--
Bob in CT
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  #10  
Old March 29th, 2004, 11:54 PM
Alex
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That T Woman wrote:

Just a suggestion, if you don't want to go on a low carb diet, don't post to
the low-carb group. They are "invested" in it and won't give you good
advice on a wide-spectrum "balanced" diet.

Tonia (posting from alt.support.diet.)
221/189/130



Hi Tonia,

Actually I'm currently on the low-carb diet, and it has worked to a point. I
wanted the opinions of other low-carb dieters because of the other health issues
- high bloodpressure and potential high cholesterol.

My question was very open-ended for all groups, which is why I crossposted.
Bottom line is I figured once I lost some weight, my bloodpressure would drop.
Thus far I've dropped 15 pounds and it hasn't effected my blood pressure. The
diet I was given by my doctor that will help is a low-fat, low-calorie diet with
no real regard to carbs. This will lower my bloodpressure and cholesterol, but
it will slow my weight loss -- to a point.

Thanks for the comments, and take care.

Alex.
 




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