I had to be towed back to shore!

Hi, Everyone...

We recently purchased a jet ski and I've run across a problem I hope
someone can help me with. I'm a large person (around 300 lbs.) and though I
figured out how to get on the jet ski in shallow water, I have twice now
fallen off in deep water and could not get back on the thing! We had a step
put on the back of it hoping that would solve the problem, but it's so
narrow I can't really get both knees on it. We also tried a rope ladder
which I thought was going to work - I actually got up on the steps of the
ladder and got one foot on the back of the jet ski but then it tipped me
over before I could get my other foot on it to balance things out.

I KNOW there have to be other large people who ride jet ski's that have
come across this problem!! Could you share how you handle this situation? I
was
humiliated both times because we ended up just having to have my husband
"tow" me back to shore with a rope - which hurt like crazy and also made me
think I was going to drown due to all the water I kept swallowing...

Thanks for any help...

Jacki

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On 10 Jun 2004 02:58:14 +0200, jackibar
wrote:

No one would bat an eye at this post is the person in question didn't weigh 300
pounds. When I read posts like this that have the intent to ridicule and hurt, I
want to reach through the phone line and separate NR from the things he loves
most....his prosthetic balls.

This was reposted without the original posters permission by a coward
that will do anything to make fat people look bad. It will play all
the cross posted groups against each other because no one wants to
read its drivel.

The identify of the coward of a little boy named NR who may live in
chicago and loves cycling and photography.

These facts are provided in the hopes that some smart person can
track this very stupid one.

Long and Deep NR. NOW!

LV


Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
- ---------------------------------------------
"To Do Is To Be" Socrates
"To Be Is To Do" Plato
"Do Be Do Be Do" Sinatra
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jackibar wrote in message ...
Hi, Everyone...

We recently purchased a jet ski and I've run across a problem I hope
someone can help me with. I'm a large person (around 300 lbs.) and though I
figured out how to get on the jet ski in shallow water, I have twice now
fallen off in deep water and could not get back on the thing! We had a step
put on the back of it hoping that would solve the problem, but it's so
narrow I can't really get both knees on it. We also tried a rope ladder
which I thought was going to work - I actually got up on the steps of the
ladder and got one foot on the back of the jet ski but then it tipped me
over before I could get my other foot on it to balance things out.

I KNOW there have to be other large people who ride jet ski's that have
come across this problem!! Could you share how you handle this situation?

Yes, Abdul has hit upon a very ingenious suggestion for you with the
harpoon thing! Next time, go out on your jet ski in the vicinity of a
crowd of whaling ships! They will harpoon you, pull you up their
carcass ramp, and "FLENSE" you, which means to strip the blubber off
you. This will permanently solve your entire problem!

Or...you could just lose weight on your own. NAWWW, that'd never
work. You'd best try the whaling ship thing.

in article , Nutbag at
wrote on 6/10/04 1:31 PM:

Or...you could just lose weight on your own.

Though these mean-spirited posts do not even deserve a response from me, how
do you know I haven't already lost a LOT of weight and am just now trying to
get back into life by enjoying something I love dearly - jet skiing?? Don't
make such assumptions. My note was an honest plea for help in solving a
real problem. The mere fact I am brave enough to get out there on the jet
ski speaks volumes! The fact I'm having a little logistical difficulty was
the reason I asked for help from others who may know more about jet skis
than I do...

And BTW, I do not appreciate whoever posted this on 3 other newsgroups
without my permission.

- Jacki

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:46:49 -0400, Jack
, wrote:

in article , Nutbag at
wrote on 6/10/04 1:31 PM:

Or...you could just lose weight on your own.

Though these mean-spirited posts do not even deserve a response from me, how
do you know I haven't already lost a LOT of weight and am just now trying to
get back into life by enjoying something I love dearly - jet skiing?? Don't
make such assumptions. My note was an honest plea for help in solving a
real problem.

I agree that no one should be making fun of you because of your weight
and congratulations to you for your efforts and successes in losing
weight. However, you did publicly post that you had to be towed to
shore. You must understand how incredible that sounds to some people.

The mere fact I am brave enough to get out there on the jet
ski speaks volumes!

That sounds like fat acceptor speech, Jack. Again, congratulations on
your success and I would definitely encourage you to continue to be
active.

But do you really think it is appropriate to be patting yourself on
the back for trying to lead a healthy life? People should do that
anyway.

The fact I'm having a little logistical difficulty was
the reason I asked for help from others who may know more about jet skis
than I do...


Being someone who greatly enjoys water sports, I can tell you that any
time you are trying to climb on an object floating in water, it
requires substantially more strength, balance and muscle control than
climbing on a stationary object. I know athletic people who have a
hell of a time climbing up on an innertube.

I am not aware of any apparatus that will help you. You simply need to
continue to lose weight and build muscle. Raw strength is the only
real answer. It will get easier over time. Good luck.

And BTW, I do not appreciate whoever posted this on 3 other newsgroups
without my permission.

- Jacki

I don't imagine you do, but that is the nature of usenet and the
internet. Anytime you post something publicly, you have to be prepared
for it to then belong to the public.

Jade

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On 10 Jun 2004 10:31:32 -0700, (Nutbag)
wrote:

jackibar wrote in message
...
Hi, Everyone...

We recently purchased a jet ski and I've run across a problem I
hope someone can help me with. I'm a large person (around 300
lbs.) and though I figured out how to get on the jet ski in
shallow water, I have twice now fallen off in deep water and could
not get back on the thing! We had a step put on the back of it
hoping that would solve the problem, but it's so narrow I can't
really get both knees on it. We also tried a rope ladder which I
thought was going to work - I actually got up on the steps of the
ladder and got one foot on the back of the jet ski but then it
tipped me over before I could get my other foot on it to balance
things out.

I KNOW there have to be other large people who ride jet ski's that
have come across this problem!! Could you share how you handle
this situation?

Yes, Abdul has hit upon a very ingenious suggestion for you with the
harpoon thing! Next time, go out on your jet ski in the vicinity of
a crowd of whaling ships! They will harpoon you, pull you up their
carcass ramp, and "FLENSE" you, which means to strip the blubber off
you. This will permanently solve your entire problem!

Or...you could just lose weight on your own. NAWWW, that'd never
work. You'd best try the whaling ship thing.

I tell you what. The next time the police need a bomb robot they
should send you. Those things, like you have no brains and you might
just be of some use after all.

I think your parents were related you SOB.

LV


Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
- ---------------------------------------------
"To Do Is To Be" Socrates
"To Be Is To Do" Plato
"Do Be Do Be Do" Sinatra
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:46:49 -0400, Jack
wrote:

in article , Nutbag
at wrote on 6/10/04 1:31 PM:

Or...you could just lose weight on your own.

Though these mean-spirited posts do not even deserve a response from
me, how do you know I haven't already lost a LOT of weight and am
just now trying to get back into life by enjoying something I love
dearly - jet skiing?? Don't make such assumptions. My note was an
honest plea for help in solving a real problem. The mere fact I am
brave enough to get out there on the jet ski speaks volumes! The
fact I'm having a little logistical difficulty was the reason I
asked for help from others who may know more about jet skis than I
do...

And BTW, I do not appreciate whoever posted this on 3 other
newsgroups without my permission.

- Jacki

Hey Jacki,

I would love to get a cow prod and teach this idiot the meaning of
respect, beginning with his anal cavity. If it died do you think
anyone would notice? I highly doubt it.

I think it is great that you can enjoy a sport like Jet skiing. Don't
let talking dildo like this keep you from what you love.

There is not a man among them-just remember that.

Good Luck!

LV


Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
- ---------------------------------------------
"To Do Is To Be" Socrates
"To Be Is To Do" Plato
"Do Be Do Be Do" Sinatra
- -------------------------------


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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Lady Veteran wrote:
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:46:49 -0400, Jack
wrote:

in article , Nutbag
at wrote on 6/10/04 1:31 PM:

Or...you could just lose weight on your own.

Though these mean-spirited posts do not even deserve a response from
me, how do you know I haven't already lost a LOT of weight and am
just now trying to get back into life by enjoying something I love
dearly - jet skiing?? Don't make such assumptions. My note was an
honest plea for help in solving a real problem. The mere fact I am
brave enough to get out there on the jet ski speaks volumes! The
fact I'm having a little logistical difficulty was the reason I
asked for help from others who may know more about jet skis than I
do...

And BTW, I do not appreciate whoever posted this on 3 other
newsgroups without my permission.

- Jacki

Hey Jacki,

I would love to get a cow prod and teach this idiot the meaning of
respect, beginning with his anal cavity. If it died do you think
anyone would notice? I highly doubt it.


Wow Lady Veteran, you seem like you have an extremely violent, nasty, and
antisocial personality. Do you by any chance have a criminal record?

Daedalus wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:46:49 -0400, Jack
, wrote:

in article , Nutbag at
wrote on 6/10/04 1:31 PM:

Or...you could just lose weight on your own.

Though these mean-spirited posts do not even deserve a response from me, how
do you know I haven't already lost a LOT of weight and am just now trying to
get back into life by enjoying something I love dearly - jet skiing?? Don't
make such assumptions. My note was an honest plea for help in solving a
real problem.

I agree that no one should be making fun of you because of your weight
and congratulations to you for your efforts and successes in losing
weight. However, you did publicly post that you had to be towed to
shore. You must understand how incredible that sounds to some people.

Actually imbecile, this is a forgery. Where the forger found the
original post is not apparent, though the forgery is. While there
appears to be a real person posting as Jackibar, if you would have
taken a second to read full headers or to google the poster's history,
it is very obvious the real Jackibar has only this single post to
SSFA.

A quick google searched based on Jacki's response, reveals the
simpleminded change in subject header and where the post originated
[alt.sport.jet-ski] Jackibar has posted to various other groups, but
the original post that started the thread and the one other SSFA
posting are forgeries using her email address. No doubt her forger
saw her website [which is quite informative and much appreciated
according to the visitors comments], saw that she was fat and in the
usual obsessive idiot/fr/troll manner decided to attack a person with
more worth then they can every hope to have.

The mere fact I am brave enough to get out there on the jet
ski speaks volumes!

That sounds like fat acceptor speech, Jack. Again, congratulations on
your success and I would definitely encourage you to continue to be
active.

The patented Jade selective perception thing going on once again.

sigh

Do you see fat acceptors behind every fat person with self worth and
the desire to live a healthy life? Those two attributes are good for
anybody, fat or not. The ability for a fat person to hold on to them
in a fat hating society shows more strength and value than you or any
of you troll/fr/idiots can ever hope to aspire to.

But do you really think it is appropriate to be patting yourself on
the back for trying to lead a healthy life? People should do that
anyway.

Tell me, do you think that you gain any credibility by making such
bonehead comments?

The fact I'm having a little logistical difficulty was
the reason I asked for help from others who may know more about jet skis
than I do...


Being someone who greatly enjoys water sports, I can tell you that any
time you are trying to climb on an object floating in water, it
requires substantially more strength, balance and muscle control than
climbing on a stationary object. I know athletic people who have a
hell of a time climbing up on an innertube.

I am not aware of any apparatus that will help you. You simply need to
continue to lose weight and build muscle. Raw strength is the only
real answer. It will get easier over time. Good luck.

And BTW, I do not appreciate whoever posted this on 3 other newsgroups
without my permission.


- Jacki

Jacki, the insect who reposted this is a coward and an idiot. They
don't care if you appreciate it or not. They live only to provoke,
[thus the changing of your subject line in its usual pathetic attempt
to be humorous] be glad that they are as inept at this as they are at
trying to make you look bad.

The plus side is, they led me [and probably others] to your website
and I congratulate you on the effort you have put into it, and the
information that is offered there. My mother had the some of the same
symptoms as some of your visitors report, and this was over 30 years
ago when the condition you have provided so much valuable information
on, didn't even have a name!

AJ

I don't imagine you do, but that is the nature of usenet and the
internet. Anytime you post something publicly, you have to be prepared
for it to then belong to the public.

Spoken like somebody who should be dead from embarrassment by the
tripe that has been published in its name that it is obviously
responsible for.

I think the irony meter may have topped out on this one.

AJ
Because, somebody has to be the Diva!

On 10 Jun 2004 18:45:02 -0700, (A J Davenport),
wrote:

Daedalus wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:46:49 -0400, Jack
, wrote:

in article , Nutbag at
wrote on 6/10/04 1:31 PM:

Or...you could just lose weight on your own.

Though these mean-spirited posts do not even deserve a response from me, how
do you know I haven't already lost a LOT of weight and am just now trying to
get back into life by enjoying something I love dearly - jet skiing?? Don't
make such assumptions. My note was an honest plea for help in solving a
real problem.

I agree that no one should be making fun of you because of your weight
and congratulations to you for your efforts and successes in losing
weight. However, you did publicly post that you had to be towed to
shore. You must understand how incredible that sounds to some people.

Actually imbecile, this is a forgery.

The original post was. This response does not appear to be. Regardless
of that, the real Jackibar posted this in public somewhere. How is it
I'm being an imbecile, oh obviously angry one?

Where the forger found the
original post is not apparent, though the forgery is.

Yep. I assumed they got it from the NAAFA message board, as many of
the previous forgeries have come.

While there
appears to be a real person posting as Jackibar, if you would have
taken a second to read full headers or to google the poster's history,
it is very obvious the real Jackibar has only this single post to
SSFA.

What difference does it make and why would I go through all of that
work when I knew the original post was a forgery already, dumbass?


A quick google searched based on Jacki's response, reveals the
simpleminded change in subject header and where the post originated
[alt.sport.jet-ski] Jackibar has posted to various other groups, but
the original post that started the thread and the one other SSFA
posting are forgeries using her email address. No doubt her forger
saw her website [which is quite informative and much appreciated
according to the visitors comments], saw that she was fat and in the
usual obsessive idiot/fr/troll manner decided to attack a person with
more worth then they can every hope to have.

You're in a real ****er of a rage today it appears. I dont have time
to check all the headers and google people's freaking posting history
or even look at their websites, just to respond to a goddamned post.

Beside the fact, my opinion remains the same whether I'm responding to
a forgery or not.

I'm surprised you have time for all that, considering the oh so full
life you claim to have.


The mere fact I am brave enough to get out there on the jet
ski speaks volumes!

That sounds like fat acceptor speech, Jack. Again, congratulations on
your success and I would definitely encourage you to continue to be
active.

The patented Jade selective perception thing going on once again.

So fat acceptors don't often congratulate one another on their courage
in performing quotidian tasks that any normal sized person does
without thinking about it? Please be clear that this is what you mean
before I go searching for examples.


sigh

Do you see fat acceptors behind every fat person with self worth and
the desire to live a healthy life?

I don't think you know the first thing about self worth. People that
have it don't crow about it.

Those two attributes are good for
anybody, fat or not. The ability for a fat person to hold on to them
in a fat hating society shows more strength and value than you or any
of you troll/fr/idiots can ever hope to aspire to.

Oh Gawd. Save the feel good emotional rhetoric for someone who gives a
damn.


But do you really think it is appropriate to be patting yourself on
the back for trying to lead a healthy life? People should do that
anyway.

Tell me, do you think that you gain any credibility by making such
bonehead comments?

HOw is this boneheaded? Have you ever asked yourself that maybe it
should be a normal thing for people to want to live healthy? Why is it
some goal to be met or obstacle to be overcome to you?


The fact I'm having a little logistical difficulty was
the reason I asked for help from others who may know more about jet skis
than I do...


Being someone who greatly enjoys water sports, I can tell you that any
time you are trying to climb on an object floating in water, it
requires substantially more strength, balance and muscle control than
climbing on a stationary object. I know athletic people who have a
hell of a time climbing up on an innertube.

I am not aware of any apparatus that will help you. You simply need to
continue to lose weight and build muscle. Raw strength is the only
real answer. It will get easier over time. Good luck.

And BTW, I do not appreciate whoever posted this on 3 other newsgroups
without my permission.


- Jacki

Jacki, the insect who reposted this is a coward and an idiot. They
don't care if you appreciate it or not. They live only to provoke,
[thus the changing of your subject line in its usual pathetic attempt
to be humorous] be glad that they are as inept at this as they are at
trying to make you look bad.

The plus side is, they led me [and probably others] to your website
and I congratulate you on the effort you have put into it, and the
information that is offered there. My mother had the some of the same
symptoms as some of your visitors report, and this was over 30 years
ago when the condition you have provided so much valuable information
on, didn't even have a name!

AJ

I don't imagine you do, but that is the nature of usenet and the
internet. Anytime you post something publicly, you have to be prepared
for it to then belong to the public.

Spoken like somebody who should be dead from embarrassment by the
tripe that has been published in its name that it is obviously
responsible for.

You mean all that stuff you seem completely unable to produce in the
form of quotes or message Ids for the public to judge for themselves?


I think the irony meter may have topped out on this one.


Thanks for ending trite. I can always count on you for that.

Jade