Is there really a "The National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance?"

That sounds pretty sad if it literally means an association to push the
acceptance of people being very overweight.
This group is a living testament that you do not need to just "accept" it.



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Steven C. (Doktersteve) wrote:
:: That sounds pretty sad if it literally means an association to push
:: the acceptance of people being very overweight.
:: This group is a living testament that you do not need to just
:: "accept" it.
::

Do you think people should not hire or not promote someone who is excellent
at their job just because of how overweight they are? And who gets to
decide how much is enough?

Explain why people should not be accepted for who they are? Though it may
be hard to imagine, some people enjoy being fat.

"Steven C. \(Doktersteve\)" quoth:
That sounds pretty sad if it literally means an association to push the
acceptance of people being very overweight.
This group is a living testament that you do not need to just "accept" it.

Not necessarily. What if you're on meds that keep your body large? What
if low-carbing doesn't work for you? What if you've so screwed up your
metabolism by yo-yo dieting which you started pre-puberty that you cannot
healthily lose weight?

Would you prefer those people be encouraged to hate themselves or be
supported in accepting what they cannot change?

Think about it.

Priscilla
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"I think I might give growing up a miss. After all, I've left it rather
late, and what would be the point?" Chris Malcolm in alt.support.menopause

It's really more about being against the discimination of fat people.

They don't say fat is better, but that we have to accept that fat people
are part of society and we shouuld see them as people first.

Jennifer


Steven C. (Doktersteve) wrote:
That sounds pretty sad if it literally means an association to push the
acceptance of people being very overweight.
This group is a living testament that you do not need to just "accept" it.

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 10:04:44 -0700, Jennifer
announced in front of God and
everybody:

It's really more about being against the discimination of fat people.

They don't say fat is better, but that we have to accept that fat people
are part of society and we shouuld see them as people first.

This is all weirdly coincidental for me -- and kinda funny -- as I'm
interviewing Marilyn Wann, author/publisher of Fat!So? -- in about an
hour ... so I've been surfing the 'net and jotting down my questions
while occasionally checking in on this newsgroup.

It continually amazes me the anger that this issue raises, especially
among a certain segment of non-fat men. Not only that "fat acceptance"
-- the desire to be accepted as equal members of society and treated
with respect regardless of size -- seems to threaten people so much.

But then, the whole gay marriage debate strikes me the same way. I'll
never understand the fervent need some folks have to endlessly,
angrily discriminate and demean other people.

Dawn

I just figure *to each his/her own*.. I don't have to like everything
everyone else does.. I don't have to say it's *ok* or *immoral* or whatever
for whichever subject.. as long as someone is not shoving it in my face,
people have the right to do and be as they please as long as it's not truly
hurting anyone else. Being overwight isn't hurting anyone else but that
person... they know it.. I am sure most would change it if they could but no
one has the right to judge them. "Tolerate", even if you don't want to
"accept".. there is a difference.

Teeb

"Dawn Taylor" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 10:04:44 -0700, Jennifer
announced in front of God and
everybody:

It's really more about being against the discimination of fat people.

They don't say fat is better, but that we have to accept that fat people
are part of society and we shouuld see them as people first.

This is all weirdly coincidental for me -- and kinda funny -- as I'm
interviewing Marilyn Wann, author/publisher of Fat!So? -- in about an
hour ... so I've been surfing the 'net and jotting down my questions
while occasionally checking in on this newsgroup.

It continually amazes me the anger that this issue raises, especially
among a certain segment of non-fat men. Not only that "fat acceptance"
-- the desire to be accepted as equal members of society and treated
with respect regardless of size -- seems to threaten people so much.

But then, the whole gay marriage debate strikes me the same way. I'll
never understand the fervent need some folks have to endlessly,
angrily discriminate and demean other people.

Dawn

"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
...
Steven C. (Doktersteve) wrote:
:: That sounds pretty sad if it literally means an association to push
:: the acceptance of people being very overweight.
:: This group is a living testament that you do not need to just
:: "accept" it.
::

Do you think people should not hire or not promote someone who is
excellent
at their job just because of how overweight they are? And who gets to
decide how much is enough?

Explain why people should not be accepted for who they are? Though it may
be hard to imagine, some people enjoy being fat.



Sorry roger, i dont mean that we should discriminate against people for
their differences, but i mean that as a society, we should not accept the
fact that we (and particularly our children) are just becoming more and more
obese.

Thats what i meant.

Steven C. (Doktersteve) wrote:
:: "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
:: ...
::: Steven C. (Doktersteve) wrote:
::::: That sounds pretty sad if it literally means an association to
::::: push the acceptance of people being very overweight.
::::: This group is a living testament that you do not need to just
::::: "accept" it.
:::::
:::
::: Do you think people should not hire or not promote someone who is
::: excellent at their job just because of how overweight they are?
::: And who gets to decide how much is enough?
:::
::: Explain why people should not be accepted for who they are? Though
::: it may be hard to imagine, some people enjoy being fat.
:::
:::
::
:: Sorry roger, i dont mean that we should discriminate against people
:: for their differences, but i mean that as a society, we should not
:: accept the fact that we (and particularly our children) are just
:: becoming more and more obese.

Well, I agree with that....given all of the health issues that come with
being fat, it would be poor idea for use as a society, it place being
inactive and eating excessive amounts over being active and eating properly.

One thing I don't like about that website is how the seem to try to make it
seem as those people have no chance in hell of ever controling their weight.
Hence, it's not worth even trying.

::
:: Thats what i meant.

Teeb wrote:
I just figure *to each his/her own*.. I don't have to like everything
everyone else does.. I don't have to say it's *ok* or *immoral* or
whatever for whichever subject.. as long as someone is not shoving it
in my face, people have the right to do and be as they please as long
as it's not truly hurting anyone else.

Shoving WHAT in your face? What are people shoving in your face? Are you
referring to gay marriage? I wear a wedding ring on my hand, carry a
picture of my husband in my wallet, hold hands with him when we walk down
the street -- would you consider that I am shoving my heterosexual,
legally-sanctioned married relationship in your face? Would it bother you
to see a man and woman holding hands as they stroll around? Well, if it
wouldn't, then ask yourself why it would bother you to see two men or two
women do the things I have a perfect right to do in public. Why is it
"shoving it in your face" when it is a gay couple, but just living when it's
a hetero couple?

Being overwight isn't hurting
anyone else but that person... they know it.. I am sure most would
change it if they could but no one has the right to judge them.
"Tolerate", even if you don't want to "accept".. there is a
difference.

Teeb

"Dawn Taylor" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 10:04:44 -0700, Jennifer
announced in front of God and
everybody:

It's really more about being against the discimination of fat
people.

They don't say fat is better, but that we have to accept that fat
people are part of society and we shouuld see them as people first.

This is all weirdly coincidental for me -- and kinda funny -- as I'm
interviewing Marilyn Wann, author/publisher of Fat!So? -- in about an
hour ... so I've been surfing the 'net and jotting down my questions
while occasionally checking in on this newsgroup.

It continually amazes me the anger that this issue raises, especially
among a certain segment of non-fat men. Not only that "fat
acceptance"
-- the desire to be accepted as equal members of society and treated
with respect regardless of size -- seems to threaten people so much.

But then, the whole gay marriage debate strikes me the same way. I'll
never understand the fervent need some folks have to endlessly,
angrily discriminate and demean other people.

Dawn

--
nimue

"There was a time when I was young and gay -- but straight."
Max Bialystock

Do not taunt happy fun ball.
SNL

In article ,
"Roger Zoul" wrote:

One thing I don't like about that website is how the seem to try to make it
seem as those people have no chance in hell of ever controling their weight.
Hence, it's not worth even trying.

That's been the experience of many fat people. Something like 85% of
the people who diet end up *larger* in the long run. Many fat folks
have been yo-yo dieting all their lives, getting fatter and fatter. To
stop dieting and accept their size is, for them, preventing themselves
from becoming even fatter.

Priscilla