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Darn!! Up TWO pounds???
This is my point. If you desire, or need to snack I see no reason not to,
just accommodate it and go for it, if you cut out say two or three points at one meal and replaced the volume with more zero point stuff then you cold have your cake and eat it too. Lee Fred wrote in message ... Well, I think that I like or maybe it is just habituated to eating a few larger meals and find them satisfying but maybe they could be shrunk just a notch here or there. I know there have been days when I have had only half a sweetpotato because I realized I did not want the whole thing (I tend to get pretty good sized ones). But if I could make that more routine - half a potato and maybe a slice less lamb or a few less shrimp. I know I have tended to cut the points of bread by going with different ones. so there are ways to still shrink the main meals. And I'm not even aiming to use this to lower weight anymore - just to accommodate snacking since I think it is an inevitable NEED???? On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:22:57 -0600, "Miss Violette" wrote: Fred this interesting to me, it goes back to my bedtime snack issue. When I started I tried to cut out the bedtime eating with disasters results. I found myself waking up in front of the frig with food in my hand, never had that happen before. Now I determined that there is type of food, fruit rather than cheese say, then there is portion, a cup of pasta rather than say, three, then there is patterns, 3 meals and 2 snacks, one large meal with smaller snacks, and me, snacks all the time with a few large meals during the week. I figured out portions weren't a big deal, fruit is just, well almost as desirable as cheese, and I also figured that the pattern really couldn't be changed. I eat every hour or two I have just learned to have 2 to 5 points at a time instead of 10 to 30. I think this is why things are working for me. Lee Fred wrote in message .. . On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:37:21 -0600, Joyce wrote: Yup, saving money would be nice ... daughter is pushing for one of the newer models though. Hers is the lowest storage size and she would like to increase it. We're into negotiations right now. G GGGGGGGG. Bring in the Teamsters I feel for your scale woes, am sure mine aren't going to be nice this week. I don't know what's gotten into me but I feel like I've done nothing but eat, eat, eat. Yesterday was better under control, but not enough to make up for the week-end. Sigh I am beginning to wonder if maybe I should try cutting down meals a bit (half a sweet potato or less shrimp) and save the points for junk??? (G) Shrink that pastrami sandwich a bit (have them cut in 1/3's rather than half. Ideas like that. Joyce On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:22:05 -0800, Fred wrote: Well, if you can save some $$ on the ipod replacement = that would be nice. I think that there was a review of a newer, smaller model the other day. The ski trip was not perfect (G) But it was nice being out and I did not break or twist anything. The scale this morning was NOT pleasant - Lesanne will almost certainly win and I will lose (well, not weight) On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:47:56 -0600, Joyce wrote: Thanks for the info, I hadn't heard of the suits. I won't be joining, I'm not a suing type of personality. I do see where they have a program of sorts in operation though. $99 plus shipping and they replace your ipod with a current model (probably refurbished) with a working battery. It isn't the best option, but is an option. I do wish they would have made these batteries easier to replace on your own. I found directions, but they look very confusing. It might be the perfect job for my electrician brother though. G Hope you had a wonderful ski trip! I DID make it back to the treadmill, felt sooooooo wonderful ... and again this morning. I think I'm trying valiantly to do damage control ... week-end has been totally out of control and character for me. Ah well, there's always next week. G Joyce On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 07:25:05 -0800, Fred wrote: I've read about bad batteries on the ipods and a potential class action suit. Heading off skiing (just finished the oatmeal - down for the sardines...).............. On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 02:38:13 -0600, Joyce wrote: I'm hopeful, guess it all depends on him and how bad he wants it - right? Financing options have changed a bit ... meaning mom and dad will not foot the entire bill now until he proves to us that he does want the education. Did the same for his older sis, he doesn't get special treatment. Mom is tough, but also a firm believer that kids will think twice about wasting their own hard earned money. G His friends are also going to college locally - one in a local 4 yr. school, another at the jr. college. It isn't uncommon here either, our jr. college's enrollment has reached the 30,000 student status - which seems very large to me. Years ago it was ranked as one of the top jr. colleges in the nation. Not sure where it ranks now, but will make the assumption that it still is good. But again, you're going to get out of it what you put into it. Time will tell. He does seem a bit more enthused than I have seen him before, is enrolled now and can register officially for classes next Friday. He has several classes jotted down that he wants to take, says he can't believe how many choices are available here, as compared to where he was going. But yes, what he is going through is nothing new ... to anyone. I seem to remember having a difficult time myself - then decided college just wasn't the answer for me. Back *then*, companies were very willing to train on the job. It's a much different world today. G As exciting as my life is, I think I could stand to add a few new toys. Might push the *who's on top* highlight down a few pegs. G I was looking on amazon, prices don't really look too bad. Think I will have to make a stop into a local store though and get some answers as to what exactly I will need and what will work with minimal changes/effect to my existing setup. It may have to wait a bit - just found out this evening that daughters IPod died a sudden death. There's another $400 I hadn't counted on. sigh I've avoided the meringues today, but did feel the necessity to finally have another mudslide. G Back to back high point days ... probably not a good plan, but I'll live through it. Back on the treadmill tomorrow, no excuses , no procrastination. That and the normal 20 loads of laundry that are still awaiting me. I wish I could blame my lack of ambition on a cold or another illness, but alas - it's just me in a bad funk. This too shall pass, and soon I hope. I don't avoid pasta, but usually have it at home where I can control things better. I have become used to the wheat pasta, have learned to cook it a bit longer and then the texture seems better to me. But ... I caved last nite. Journalled it all, over 7 points for the day - not good but sure have seen worse. G Normally if I know I'm doing the pasta thing, I will cover for it elsewhere - this was just one of those days where it sprang up as a surprise. Kind of like dinner this evening. Last minute hub decided he wanted pizza. sigh Joyce On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:43:56 -0800, Fred wrote: Hope the local college works out for him. I will not admit to having to feel my way in my second semester way back when. But it worked out. At least, I think it did (G) I went to college from home - all in NYC and environs. Many of us stayed local since it was reasonaby priced (like FREE) and a good (back then) education. Toys are what keep life exciting - no? Oh, maybe that was financially broke - well, one or the other. The wireless has dropped substantially in price - really. Miss Meringues are sitting here now. Dessert after my pickled herring sandwich. Waiting for a friend to call and up or down on a bike ride. We are trying to decide if we are willing to possibly get rained on! (G) Should have gone skiing but with a cold I figured I would wait another day. (aside, we just decided to go for it! ) I still have avoided pasta - pretty much since I started WW. I did do the buckwheat noodles about 3 months ago with a then Atkins friends. She has since abandoned food to lose weight! (G) On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:17:16 -0600, Joyce wrote: Thanks again. Not sure if we are terrific, maybe more like jekyll and hyde? g We have that tendency to go ballistic when alone (or with each other) then calm down when the kids are around ... able to talk more reason into each other. Once the smoke has cleared, we seem to be able to better cope. Thank heavens the kids see very little of the smoke. G I remember never being allowed to make my own decisions, or if I did I was always told they were wrong - have sworn that I would not do that to my kids. It has taken me most of my life to overcome the lack of confidence in myself. So if they make mistakes, they make mistakes. As long as they learn from them, I figure it turns out ok. And dear ol' sonny boy is such a complex being - hard for me to figure him out. The boy just had a rough year, advisor from hell who set him back a few paces and he never took the initiative to fight her. Ah well, live and learn. What I find is very funny (again, my warped sense of humor) is that the local college was our first choice for him - as he is such a homebody and really didn't know what he wanted to do. So again, his choice to venture off, - and now it's his choice to return. The treadmill is what is pushing me to look into the wireless .... just another gimick, another toy. And you know how I love my toys! Working from the couch would be *ok*, but definitely not a necessity - and not interested enough to make me run out and investigate how much the option would cost me. For the purpose of amusement though ......... hehehe. Still no more mudslides here. I keep looking at the bottle, but haven't really had the desire to venture to it. I really am not much of a drinker. And yesterday I really overdid things. Waited much too long for dinner (7:30pm) and was absolutely starving. Did the carry-in thing, pasta - not the best choice and very large serving ... which I ate in entirety. Probably 20 points worth for dinner alone. Added a skinny cow sandwich later in the evening. Went out for lunch, but at least did keep that at fish and veggies. STILL - was a much heavier day than I've had in a long time. Why is it that there are just *those days* where you are hungry no matter what you eat or what you do (or what you don't do)? Joyce On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 08:31:49 -0800, Fred wrote: Well, it sounds like mom and dad are terrific parents providing a supportive home and allowing the kids to make their own decisions. I am sure it will work out. Sometimes college is overwhelming and like WW, you can get back in the game when the time is right. The local option may work best for now. Working wirelessly from out in the yard (not for months yet if you can see the screen) or from the dining room or fireplace is neat but we can get too spoiled, too. But exploiting the treadmill's interactive or download features would push me (G) Another TOY! No, no mudslides - just way too many meringues - I need to retake the environment issue. I've been bringing home too much tempting JUNK. And eating it. But I did well with the leg of lamb. Carved it last night into 2.5 - 3.0 oz servings and froze it after eating a bit too much wonderful "crust" the first night. On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 02:17:40 -0600, Joyce wrote: Thanks Fred. Might not have worked out the way dad and I would prefer - but it really isn't our choice - the kid needs to be happy, it's his life. He called me while I was in the oral surgeons, as he was headed back to college to talk to his professor. Asked me if he should just withdraw as long as he was there. Once again I told him I would not make that decision, he had our blessing no matter what he decided ... as well as a home to come to. I guess I look at things oddly ... would hate to have any of my children think there problems are so huge that there is no possible way out other than a *forever* choice ... and seems to be quite a few that do end up thinking that. Soooo - he is home now, registering for classes at the local college tomorrow - while he sorts things out. When he came back home, I couldn't believe how much more relaxed he looked already - finally looked like he at least had some life in him. He's 19, still has a lot of growin' up left in him. G Thanks for the network info. I also checked with a friend of my sons, he pretty much confirmed what you said. If I recall correctly, he said something about purchasing a router that had maybe one wireless port but also had several wired ports (or hubs or whatever???) .. then run the laptops off the wireless. It's a thought, and I would enjoy being able to work on a computer from the dining room, or family room ... without stringing temp cords all over the house. One more thing for me to think about. You know how I feel about thinking! sigh Did you find the mudslides? I haven't indulged in any more lately ... just might have to move in that direction tomorrow though. It's sounding pretty danged good! Joyce On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:22:53 -0800, Fred wrote: Don't slip on too much mudslide. Glad to hear things are sorting out. I am not a network expert if there are such people these days but I think you could link a desktop with a wired network to a laptop with wireless and work with the type systems. But as you say, it probably is not that important. I do enjoy the wireless laptop downstairs beside the fireplace. Take care and I will have to find mudslide - hmmm, maybe on the lunch time walk in the predicted sunshine I can get to the state liquor store (G) On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 02:30:17 -0600, Joyce wrote: Thanks Fred. Everything is ok, everyone is safe and healthy, which is what is important. As I told my older brother this week-end ... just another one of those freakin' growth experiences. G Then I told hub I lived through it with my older brother, lived through it myself, we lived through it with our oldest girl ... will live through this current bout and then just think ... only one more to make it through! G It's just the emotions that are totally shot right now. I've been so hesitant moving to a wireless network, don't think I've talked to a single person who has had good experiences with them. And if I did put one in, would I then have to disconnect my normal network ... or would I be able to pick and choose when I wanted to use the wireless? I am just not thinking clearly right now, probably not the best time to venture into this project. G Unfortunately, I also have not returned to the treadmill and don't foresee being able to for the next few days ... definitely not tomorrow anyway ... well ... maybe by dinnertime? sigh Littlest daughter is having 2 teeth pulled in the morning, in order to have braces put on. She is my worrier, timid little sould that she is - and scared to pieces. She is beggin for a general anesthetic - which scares me. Guess I'll let the oral surgeon and her make this call (I just get to pay for it). Bring her home, see if eldest can watch her sister for a bit while I go to traffic court with hub. Hopefully have some answers from sonny boy in there somewhere. Gonna be another one of those long days, but hey! I got me a whole bottle of mudslides in the fridge ... makes for an easy dinner. G Joyce On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 18:32:41 -0800, Fred wrote: First, I hope all is or goes well. Hey, a wireless network will easily provide a laptop with the internet in the darn basement - that's no excuse anymore (G) I have not returned to the treadmill - was too tired from biking on saturday and skiing on sunday (g) On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 08:21:58 -0600, Joyce wrote: I have no idea what trails they have, don't have the internet access set up in the basement. And puh-lease don't give me any ideas about trying to tackle THAT job in the near future. G How come the treadmill you were on kept dropping the incline down? Or did I miss something here? I haven't tried doing the incline at a slower pace - have found it is so much more interesting (the after-effects) of hitting them at 4mph ... if I go any faster my little legs will be jogging. G It's been another one of those long week-ends with no treadmill included - not pleasant stuff going on. But we are hoping the situation now has some viable solutions ... will know more today and definitive answers on Tuesday. So at least are moving in on some answers. Am hoping to catch up on the newsgroup and emails, then get sonny boy out and moving ... then hit the treadmill while awaiting todays set of answers. At least I got me a plan of attack today! Joyce On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 17:39:12 -0800, Fred wrote: Programming trails I'd love Yosemite. See if they have the Mt Si trail. 4 miles up with a gain of approx 3,400 feet. I just used the treadmill at work today for the 1st time. 15 minutes on hill work. But only about 2mph but I kept upping the slope to 10 whatever and it kept dropping it back down (G) On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 08:39:06 -0600, Joyce wrote: hehehe - I don't know you, but I do know ME ... I am the burnout queen. g I even splurged and bought myself a 13" television with a dvd player built in, to give me something to keep my mind off of the boredom that can set in. Then splurged on some movies and television series dvd's ... making the treadmill time, MY time and something to look forward to (a bit). I still overdid things a bit yesterday, wanted to check out the even higher inclines and see how much different they were. OY! They are tough, I think I at least now know exactly what a high intensity workout is supposed to make you feel. LOL Yesterday was the first time I used the fan, not much need to when your basement is sitting at about 30 degrees. I was in my sweats, had to throw my bathrobe on in addition ... and after 15 minutes I had to turn the fan on. Oh, it is wonderful! Does your treadmill also have the ability to be hooked into the manufacturers internet website for additional programming and tracking? I haven't done it with mine, don't want to string any more cables through the house, but it did sound really interesting and fun. Can hook it up, and get programming on the computer monitor to walk through different scenery settings. And through the website it will also automatically control/increase/decrease the incline and speed to coincide with the terrain. Cool, huh? I didn't even realize this until I read the manual. Joyce On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 06:32:07 -0600, "WannaBLean" wrote: I'm going to follow your advice. It's almost like you "know me". I DO burn out easily and I don't want to this time. Thank you for the good advice. Hugs. "Joyce" wrote in message news:e0lu10t13ifg09qc6k3bqujrod552 ... I'm going by memory here, from posts I've seen from you throughout the week. Haven't you just begun exercising recently? If so, your muscles are more than likely hanging onto water while repairing the stress on them from the new activity. This happened to me also, still does on occassion when I try to push too hard, too fast. It takes awhile for the body to let go of the water, took me a good two weeks in the beginning. Just a suggestion from the non-exercise guru in the bunch ... I read elsewhere that you were walking a mile a day, at a pace of 2MPH. This is a great start, won't totally burn you out from overdoing in the beginning. Then I read that you added the incline into the routine already. Myself, I would work on the distance and speed first ... start gradually increasing the incline when you can get your speed up to a cardio level maybe? I think I read somewhere recently that a walking cardio level should be between 3MPH and 3.5 MPH - not too sure of that though. The incline is a great workout, I love it myself - but I also didn't add it until I was consistently up in speed and duration, as I felt it was tougher on the legs (which may be why your body is hanging on to fluids???), thus causing me to tire out faster. I've been working on the treadmill for many months now, walk at 4MPH and a varying incline level of 4-8 ... and I tell ya, I start feeling it at 20 minutes when on the higher incline - start declining the incline and immediately notice the difference. Maybe you could work a few days at your 2MPH level for 30 minutes (1 mile), then increase the speed by .1 or .2 MPH (I'm making the assumption your treadmill is similar to mine ... fan and all) - go for another few days and up the speed again. If you keep the length of time the same, you will notice you are walking a bit further each day. You will still get the same benefits of the flat workout, without overtiring yourself in the early stages - which often leads to early burnout. Save that tough stuff for later! Just my 2 cents worth, anyway. G Joyce On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 15:47:37 -0600, "WannaBLean" wrote: HOW??? I've even been exercising!! I am SO bummed out! |
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Darn!! Up TWO pounds???
LOL! And we can't stop either one from happening. Puberty isn't fun, but I think
you have a few years yet before you have to worry. And you can always hope that your son is a bit late. g I remember seeing my son staring at those girls too, but I never knew why he was staring ... maybe he thought they were wearing goofy clothing? Grin I was lucky though, he was shy enough that he didn't act on anything until he was much older. He made it through highschool, never had an official girlfriend so didn't go through all those lovely teenage headaches. Now the girlfriends are hanging around, but at least he is more mature and able to handle the emotional baggage that comes along with them. Youngest daughter in an entirely different story. sigh Joyce On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:24:49 -0500, Connie wrote: You're not ready for a quiet house and I'm not ready for puberty but they're both coming (like it or not). I caught Murdock staring at a girl the other day...OMG he's only 10 ... it can't be happening yet ... can it? He just blushed and looked away. ;-) Connie Joyce wrote: Yup, and when you think you have it all figured out the kids go and change the rules on you. G I'm becoming so much closer to a new stage in my life. Still parenting, probably always will be regardless as to the age of my kids. But more and more hub and I are finding ourselves home alone ... both kids off and running in the evenings, have their own plans, own lives. Meal plans are difficult at best, never knowing who will be around, IF anyone. I'm guessing this is supposed to be our preparation for the inevitable. I'm not quite ready for this totally quiet house ... even though I do like my quiet time. g Joyce On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 20:01:24 -0500, Connie wrote: I'm learning something about parenting all the time. It sure is experimental. Connie Joyce wrote: Thanks for the vote of confidence, Connie. I tell my kids they are just guinea pigs ... parenting is purely an experimental process. G We do try hard though, not much more we can do than that ... right? Joyce On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:37:15 -0500, Connie wrote: Joyce, you sound like a really great mom!! Keep up the good work!! Connie Joyce wrote: Thanks PR. So far he seems ok to me, has some spark back in his eyes and a new plan of attack. At least he now sees there are still options in his life, this does not make him a failure. Tomorrow (Friday) he is registering for classes at the local college, keep him going while giving him some time to sort things out also. Guess he at least feels better knowing he would be allowed to make whatever decision he felt was best for HIM, and mom/dad weren't going to beat him up over it. He is 19, has a whole lot of time ahead of him to figure things out. G Daughter came through the teeth pulling like a trooper - did beg for more than just a local anesthetic though. I took her to the oral surgeon I have been to, is a wonderfully gentle and caring man. He told her she could ABSOLUTELY have whatever she felt was needed, no way did he want her fearing or feeling pain or any nervousness. She finally opted for a little bit of gas along with the local. I could deal with that a lot better than the thought of the general anesthetic. She didn't seem to have much pain, was taking some motrin though ... but thinks it was more for the discomfort of the seperators that had also been put into her teeth. Today no motrin, so she must be feeling much better. I'm breathing, I'm breathing! Things have calmed down now, crisis appears to have passed. G Joyce On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:40:16 -0600, Prairie Roots wrote: Sounds like your son's in the middle of a major life crisis. I truly hope he comes through this whole, which most likely he will with you in his corner. I'm sorry you're having to suffer his anxiety as well. I feel for your daughter. Having braces put on is what turned me into a confirmed dentalphobe. Now I ask for general anesthetic every time I get my teeth cleaned; I settle for valium. Course if it was my daughter asking for general anesthetic, I'd be nervous.G I hope your day went better than it sounded in advance. Things can only look UP, right?! Take a few minutes for yourself, and remember to breathe. Prairie Roots On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 02:18:30 -0600, Joyce wrote: Thanks PR. Todays plan of attack blew out the window ... along with yesterdays *good* set of answers. sigh Tomorrow is another day, a few other options, then time to make some informed decisions. Nothing overly major in the grand scheme of things, just blips in the road. Son hadn't been doing well in college all year, grades dropped horrendously but he had said nothing. We worried quietly here at home, while he tried valiantly to dig himself out. Turns out he was given a bunch of bad information from his advisor and baseball coach ... took a class he had no need to take ... entire grade turned out to be based solely on final exam, which turned out to be an oral resume and job interview that was drawn out of a hat when he entered the class for the exam (he drew a career he knew absolutely nothing about) ... failed thus making him ineligible for baseball. In the grand scheme of things this is really unimportant ... to him it is the world and he is currently shattered. He has had the carrot dangled in front of his nose, so to speak - had pro scouts talking to him the last few months, telling him at this given moment he has a 1:4 chance of being drafted - not great but still not bad for a 19 year old. BUT he says needs to play for it to happen, and it is his dream. So what do we do? Tell him to give up his dream? I think dreams are what keep us going, keep us alive - I hate to just tell him to quit and grow up aleady. So this week-end he has been investigating transferring schools. Yesterday he was all set up, went to register today only to be told that the school he is currently at has a wierd class schedule which has made him ineligible for transferring deadlines (current college is just starting a new term, whereas other colleges are much further along already). It also explains why his current school has so many transferring IN at this time of year. My heart once again broke for him today when he came home, he looked so darned defeated. He is kicking himself for not saying anything to us over the holidays, he didn't want to let us down. which he never would anyway Had another heart to heart with him this afternoon, told him if he is really that unhappy where he is at, then maybe consider transferring into the local jr. college during spring quarter ... take some time to make a decision for next year. Does it make sense for him to stick it out where he is currently at, only to not go back next year anyway? So tomorrow morning he is back to the jr. college to talk to the coach there, see if maybe he can even just work out with the team while attending classes ... talk to one other school in the area .... then back to current school to see if he can sweet talk his professor into giving him an incomplete (probably not, is a first year teacher who appears to be in authoratative mode). At least by knowing *answers* hopefully he can make an informed decision and hopefully become more relaxed and happy. I'm out bright and early tomorrow morning with daughter, she has to have 2 teeth pulled for braces ... then afternoon in traffic court with hubby who hit a woman who was backing down a one way street ... it's gonna be another one of those looooooooong days. sigh I am incredibly tired, yet can't sleep. Joyce On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 21:05:29 -0600, Prairie Roots wrote: I'll be thinking of you tomorrow and hoping that all works out well. Peace be with you. Prairie Roots On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 08:21:58 -0600, Joyce wrote: I have no idea what trails they have, don't have the internet access set up in the basement. And puh-lease don't give me any ideas about trying to tackle THAT job in the near future. G How come the treadmill you were on kept dropping the incline down? Or did I miss something here? I haven't tried doing the incline at a slower pace - have found it is so much more interesting (the after-effects) of hitting them at 4mph ... if I go any faster my little legs will be jogging. G It's been another one of those long week-ends with no treadmill included - not pleasant stuff going on. But we are hoping the situation now has some viable solutions ... will know more today and definitive answers on Tuesday. So at least are moving in on some answers. Am hoping to catch up on the newsgroup and emails, then get sonny boy out and moving ... then hit the treadmill while awaiting todays set of answers. At least I got me a plan of attack today! Joyce On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 17:39:12 -0800, Fred wrote: Programming trails I'd love Yosemite. See if they have the Mt Si trail. 4 miles up with a gain of approx 3,400 feet. I just used the treadmill at work today for the 1st time. 15 minutes on hill work. But only about 2mph but I kept upping the slope to 10 whatever and it kept dropping it back down (G) On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 08:39:06 -0600, Joyce wrote: hehehe - I don't know you, but I do know ME ... I am the burnout queen. g I even splurged and bought myself a 13" television with a dvd player built in, to give me something to keep my mind off of the boredom that can set in. Then splurged on some movies and television series dvd's ... making the treadmill time, MY time and something to look forward to (a bit). I still overdid things a bit yesterday, wanted to check out the even higher inclines and see how much different they were. OY! They are tough, I think I at least now know exactly what a high intensity workout is supposed to make you feel. LOL Yesterday was the first time I used the fan, not much need to when your basement is sitting at about 30 degrees. I was in my sweats, had to throw my bathrobe on in addition ... and after 15 minutes I had to turn the fan on. Oh, it is wonderful! Does your treadmill also have the ability to be hooked into the manufacturers internet website for additional programming and tracking? I haven't done it with mine, don't want to string any more cables through the house, but it did sound really interesting and fun. Can hook it up, and get programming on the computer monitor to walk through different scenery settings. And through the website it will also automatically control/increase/decrease the incline and speed to coincide with the terrain. Cool, huh? I didn't even realize this until I read the manual. Joyce On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 06:32:07 -0600, "WannaBLean" wrote: I'm going to follow your advice. It's almost like you "know me". I DO burn out easily and I don't want to this time. Thank you for the good advice. Hugs. "Joyce" wrote in message news:e0lu10t13ifg09qc6k3bqujrod55271c ... I'm going by memory here, from posts I've seen from you throughout the week. Haven't you just begun exercising recently? If so, your muscles are more than likely hanging onto water while repairing the stress on them from the new activity. This happened to me also, still does on occassion when I try to push too hard, too fast. It takes awhile for the body to let go of the water, took me a good two weeks in the beginning. Just a suggestion from the non-exercise guru in the bunch ... I read elsewhere that you were walking a mile a day, at a pace of 2MPH. This is a great start, won't totally burn you out from overdoing in the beginning. Then I read that you added the incline into the routine already. Myself, I would work on the distance and speed first ... start gradually increasing the incline when you can get your speed up to a cardio level maybe? I think I read somewhere recently that a walking cardio level should be between 3MPH and 3.5 MPH - not too sure of that though. The incline is a great workout, I love it myself - but I also didn't add it until I was consistently up in speed and duration, as I felt it was tougher on the legs (which may be why your body is hanging on to fluids???), thus causing me to tire out faster. I've been working on the treadmill for many months now, walk at 4MPH and a varying incline level of 4-8 ... and I tell ya, I start feeling it at 20 minutes when on the higher incline - start declining the incline and immediately notice the difference. Maybe you could work a few days at your 2MPH level for 30 minutes (1 mile), then increase the speed by .1 or .2 MPH (I'm making the assumption your treadmill is similar to mine ... fan and all) - go for another few days and up the speed again. If you keep the length of time the same, you will notice you are walking a bit further each day. You will still get the same benefits of the flat workout, without overtiring yourself in the early stages - which often leads to early burnout. Save that tough stuff for later! Just my 2 cents worth, anyway. G Joyce On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 15:47:37 -0600, "WannaBLean" wrote: HOW??? I've even been exercising!! I am SO bummed out! |
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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:37:21 -0600, Joyce wrote: Yup, saving money would be nice ... daughter is pushing for one of the newer models though. Hers is the lowest storage size and she would like to increase it. We're into negotiations right now. G GGGGGGGG. Bring in the Teamsters Oh, now that's a dirty word! I was raised by a teamster dad, brother is a teamster, hub is the only one who isn't - yet he carries teamster insurance. Go figure. LOL! I have a feeling daughter may win on this one, just not today. I'm broke. Paid the entire braces fee in one shot (because orthodontist would give me a 4% discount if I did ... and you know how much I like a bargain). Came home and found the auto insurance bill in the mailbox. sigh I feel for your scale woes, am sure mine aren't going to be nice this week. I don't know what's gotten into me but I feel like I've done nothing but eat, eat, eat. Yesterday was better under control, but not enough to make up for the week-end. Sigh I am beginning to wonder if maybe I should try cutting down meals a bit (half a sweet potato or less shrimp) and save the points for junk??? (G) Shrink that pastrami sandwich a bit (have them cut in 1/3's rather than half. Ideas like that. I may have to do the same, at least temporarily to get me over the hump. I've noticed this week it is the snacks that are pushing me over the edge. Normally they haven't been too much of a problem, but for some reason this week is causing me fits. I don't know how much I can scale them back though. Dinner is about the only possibility. Lunch and breakfast are already about as low as I care to go. I am afraid cutting any lower and it will only be pushing me into more snacks ... kind of a double edged sword. Or ... I will have to really rein in the evening munchies. Or ... kill off that damn bottle of Mudslides that is still in the fridge. It's almost empty. G Joyce On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:22:05 -0800, Fred wrote: Well, if you can save some $$ on the ipod replacement = that would be nice. I think that there was a review of a newer, smaller model the other day. The ski trip was not perfect (G) But it was nice being out and I did not break or twist anything. The scale this morning was NOT pleasant - Lesanne will almost certainly win and I will lose (well, not weight) On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:47:56 -0600, Joyce wrote: Thanks for the info, I hadn't heard of the suits. I won't be joining, I'm not a suing type of personality. I do see where they have a program of sorts in operation though. $99 plus shipping and they replace your ipod with a current model (probably refurbished) with a working battery. It isn't the best option, but is an option. I do wish they would have made these batteries easier to replace on your own. I found directions, but they look very confusing. It might be the perfect job for my electrician brother though. G Hope you had a wonderful ski trip! I DID make it back to the treadmill, felt sooooooo wonderful ... and again this morning. I think I'm trying valiantly to do damage control ... week-end has been totally out of control and character for me. Ah well, there's always next week. G Joyce On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 07:25:05 -0800, Fred wrote: I've read about bad batteries on the ipods and a potential class action suit. Heading off skiing (just finished the oatmeal - down for the sardines...).............. On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 02:38:13 -0600, Joyce wrote: I'm hopeful, guess it all depends on him and how bad he wants it - right? Financing options have changed a bit ... meaning mom and dad will not foot the entire bill now until he proves to us that he does want the education. Did the same for his older sis, he doesn't get special treatment. Mom is tough, but also a firm believer that kids will think twice about wasting their own hard earned money. G His friends are also going to college locally - one in a local 4 yr. school, another at the jr. college. It isn't uncommon here either, our jr. college's enrollment has reached the 30,000 student status - which seems very large to me. Years ago it was ranked as one of the top jr. colleges in the nation. Not sure where it ranks now, but will make the assumption that it still is good. But again, you're going to get out of it what you put into it. Time will tell. He does seem a bit more enthused than I have seen him before, is enrolled now and can register officially for classes next Friday. He has several classes jotted down that he wants to take, says he can't believe how many choices are available here, as compared to where he was going. But yes, what he is going through is nothing new ... to anyone. I seem to remember having a difficult time myself - then decided college just wasn't the answer for me. Back *then*, companies were very willing to train on the job. It's a much different world today. G As exciting as my life is, I think I could stand to add a few new toys. Might push the *who's on top* highlight down a few pegs. G I was looking on amazon, prices don't really look too bad. Think I will have to make a stop into a local store though and get some answers as to what exactly I will need and what will work with minimal changes/effect to my existing setup. It may have to wait a bit - just found out this evening that daughters IPod died a sudden death. There's another $400 I hadn't counted on. sigh I've avoided the meringues today, but did feel the necessity to finally have another mudslide. G Back to back high point days ... probably not a good plan, but I'll live through it. Back on the treadmill tomorrow, no excuses, no procrastination. That and the normal 20 loads of laundry that are still awaiting me. I wish I could blame my lack of ambition on a cold or another illness, but alas - it's just me in a bad funk. This too shall pass, and soon I hope. I don't avoid pasta, but usually have it at home where I can control things better. I have become used to the wheat pasta, have learned to cook it a bit longer and then the texture seems better to me. But ... I caved last nite. Journalled it all, over 7 points for the day - not good but sure have seen worse. G Normally if I know I'm doing the pasta thing, I will cover for it elsewhere - this was just one of those days where it sprang up as a surprise. Kind of like dinner this evening. Last minute hub decided he wanted pizza. sigh Joyce On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:43:56 -0800, Fred wrote: Hope the local college works out for him. I will not admit to having to feel my way in my second semester way back when. But it worked out. At least, I think it did (G) I went to college from home - all in NYC and environs. Many of us stayed local since it was reasonaby priced (like FREE) and a good (back then) education. Toys are what keep life exciting - no? Oh, maybe that was financially broke - well, one or the other. The wireless has dropped substantially in price - really. Miss Meringues are sitting here now. Dessert after my pickled herring sandwich. Waiting for a friend to call and up or down on a bike ride. We are trying to decide if we are willing to possibly get rained on! (G) Should have gone skiing but with a cold I figured I would wait another day. (aside, we just decided to go for it! ) I still have avoided pasta - pretty much since I started WW. I did do the buckwheat noodles about 3 months ago with a then Atkins friends. She has since abandoned food to lose weight! (G) On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:17:16 -0600, Joyce wrote: Thanks again. Not sure if we are terrific, maybe more like jekyll and hyde? g We have that tendency to go ballistic when alone (or with each other) then calm down when the kids are around ... able to talk more reason into each other. Once the smoke has cleared, we seem to be able to better cope. Thank heavens the kids see very little of the smoke. G I remember never being allowed to make my own decisions, or if I did I was always told they were wrong - have sworn that I would not do that to my kids. It has taken me most of my life to overcome the lack of confidence in myself. So if they make mistakes, they make mistakes. As long as they learn from them, I figure it turns out ok. And dear ol' sonny boy is such a complex being - hard for me to figure him out. The boy just had a rough year, advisor from hell who set him back a few paces and he never took the initiative to fight her. Ah well, live and learn. What I find is very funny (again, my warped sense of humor) is that the local college was our first choice for him - as he is such a homebody and really didn't know what he wanted to do. So again, his choice to venture off, - and now it's his choice to return. The treadmill is what is pushing me to look into the wireless ... just another gimick, another toy. And you know how I love my toys! Working from the couch would be *ok*, but definitely not a necessity - and not interested enough to make me run out and investigate how much the option would cost me. For the purpose of amusement though ......... hehehe. Still no more mudslides here. I keep looking at the bottle, but haven't really had the desire to venture to it. I really am not much of a drinker. And yesterday I really overdid things. Waited much too long for dinner (7:30pm) and was absolutely starving. Did the carry-in thing, pasta - not the best choice and very large serving ... which I ate in entirety. Probably 20 points worth for dinner alone. Added a skinny cow sandwich later in the evening. Went out for lunch, but at least did keep that at fish and veggies. STILL - was a much heavier day than I've had in a long time. Why is it that there are just *those days* where you are hungry no matter what you eat or what you do (or what you don't do)? Joyce On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 08:31:49 -0800, Fred wrote: Well, it sounds like mom and dad are terrific parents providing a supportive home and allowing the kids to make their own decisions. I am sure it will work out. Sometimes college is overwhelming and like WW, you can get back in the game when the time is right. The local option may work best for now. Working wirelessly from out in the yard (not for months yet if you can see the screen) or from the dining room or fireplace is neat but we can get too spoiled, too. But exploiting the treadmill's interactive or download features would push me (G) Another TOY! No, no mudslides - just way too many meringues - I need to retake the environment issue. I've been bringing home too much tempting JUNK. And eating it. But I did well with the leg of lamb. Carved it last night into 2.5 - 3.0 oz servings and froze it after eating a bit too much wonderful "crust" the first night. On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 02:17:40 -0600, Joyce wrote: Thanks Fred. Might not have worked out the way dad and I would prefer - but it really isn't our choice - the kid needs to be happy, it's his life. He called me while I was in the oral surgeons, as he was headed back to college to talk to his professor. Asked me if he should just withdraw as long as he was there. Once again I told him I would not make that decision, he had our blessing no matter what he decided ... as well as a home to come to. I guess I look at things oddly ... would hate to have any of my children think there problems are so huge that there is no possible way out other than a *forever* choice ... and seems to be quite a few that do end up thinking that. Soooo - he is home now, registering for classes at the local college tomorrow - while he sorts things out. When he came back home, I couldn't believe how much more relaxed he looked already - finally looked like he at least had some life in him. He's 19, still has a lot of growin' up left in him. G Thanks for the network info. I also checked with a friend of my sons, he pretty much confirmed what you said. If I recall correctly, he said something about purchasing a router that had maybe one wireless port but also had several wired ports (or hubs or whatever???) .. then run the laptops off the wireless. It's a thought, and I would enjoy being able to work on a computer from the dining room, or family room ... without stringing temp cords all over the house. One more thing for me to think about. You know how I feel about thinking! sigh Did you find the mudslides? I haven't indulged in any more lately ... just might have to move in that direction tomorrow though. It's sounding pretty danged good! Joyce On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:22:53 -0800, Fred wrote: Don't slip on too much mudslide. Glad to hear things are sorting out. I am not a network expert if there are such people these days but I think you could link a desktop with a wired network to a laptop with wireless and work with the type systems. But as you say, it probably is not that important. I do enjoy the wireless laptop downstairs beside the fireplace. Take care and I will have to find mudslide - hmmm, maybe on the lunch time walk in the predicted sunshine I can get to the state liquor store (G) On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 02:30:17 -0600, Joyce wrote: Thanks Fred. Everything is ok, everyone is safe and healthy, which is what is important. As I told my older brother this week-end ... just another one of those freakin' growth experiences. G Then I told hub I lived through it with my older brother, lived through it myself, we lived through it with our oldest girl ... will live through this current bout and then just think ... only one more to make it through! G It's just the emotions that are totally shot right now. I've been so hesitant moving to a wireless network, don't think I've talked to a single person who has had good experiences with them. And if I did put one in, would I then have to disconnect my normal network ... or would I be able to pick and choose when I wanted to use the wireless? I am just not thinking clearly right now, probably not the best time to venture into this project. G Unfortunately, I also have not returned to the treadmill and don't foresee being able to for the next few days ... definitely not tomorrow anyway ... well ... maybe by dinnertime? sigh Littlest daughter is having 2 teeth pulled in the morning, in order to have braces put on. She is my worrier, timid little sould that she is - and scared to pieces. She is beggin for a general anesthetic - which scares me. Guess I'll let the oral surgeon and her make this call (I just get to pay for it). Bring her home, see if eldest can watch her sister for a bit while I go to traffic court with hub. Hopefully have some answers from sonny boy in there somewhere. Gonna be another one of those long days, but hey! I got me a whole bottle of mudslides in the fridge ... makes for an easy dinner. G Joyce On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 18:32:41 -0800, Fred wrote: First, I hope all is or goes well. Hey, a wireless network will easily provide a laptop with the internet in the darn basement - that's no excuse anymore (G) I have not returned to the treadmill - was too tired from biking on saturday and skiing on sunday (g) On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 08:21:58 -0600, Joyce wrote: I have no idea what trails they have, don't have the internet access set up in the basement. And puh-lease don't give me any ideas about trying to tackle THAT job in the near future. G How come the treadmill you were on kept dropping the incline down? Or did I miss something here? I haven't tried doing the incline at a slower pace - have found it is so much more interesting (the after-effects) of hitting them at 4mph ... if I go any faster my little legs will be jogging. G It's been another one of those long week-ends with no treadmill included - not pleasant stuff going on. But we are hoping the situation now has some viable solutions ... will know more today and definitive answers on Tuesday. So at least are moving in on some answers. Am hoping to catch up on the newsgroup and emails, then get sonny boy out and moving ... then hit the treadmill while awaiting todays set of answers. At least I got me a plan of attack today! Joyce On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 17:39:12 -0800, Fred wrote: Programming trails I'd love Yosemite. See if they have the Mt Si trail. 4 miles up with a gain of approx 3,400 feet. I just used the treadmill at work today for the 1st time. 15 minutes on hill work. But only about 2mph but I kept upping the slope to 10 whatever and it kept dropping it back down (G) On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 08:39:06 -0600, Joyce wrote: hehehe - I don't know you, but I do know ME ... I am the burnout queen. g I even splurged and bought myself a 13" television with a dvd player built in, to give me something to keep my mind off of the boredom that can set in. Then splurged on some movies and television series dvd's ... making the treadmill time, MY time and something to look forward to (a bit). I still overdid things a bit yesterday, wanted to check out the even higher inclines and see how much different they were. OY! They are tough, I think I at least now know exactly what a high intensity workout is supposed to make you feel. LOL Yesterday was the first time I used the fan, not much need to when your basement is sitting at about 30 degrees. I was in my sweats, had to throw my bathrobe on in addition ... and after 15 minutes I had to turn the fan on. Oh, it is wonderful! Does your treadmill also have the ability to be hooked into the manufacturers internet website for additional programming and tracking? I haven't done it with mine, don't want to string any more cables through the house, but it did sound really interesting and fun. Can hook it up, and get programming on the computer monitor to walk through different scenery settings. And through the website it will also automatically control/increase/decrease the incline and speed to coincide with the terrain. Cool, huh? I didn't even realize this until I read the manual. Joyce On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 06:32:07 -0600, "WannaBLean" wrote: I'm going to follow your advice. It's almost like you "know me". I DO burn out easily and I don't want to this time. Thank you for the good advice. Hugs. "Joyce" wrote in message news:e0lu10t13ifg09qc6k3bqujrod55 ... I'm going by memory here, from posts I've seen from you throughout the week. Haven't you just begun exercising recently? If so, your muscles are more than likely hanging onto water while repairing the stress on them from the new activity. This happened to me also, still does on occassion when I try to push too hard, too fast. It takes awhile for the body to let go of the water, took me a good two weeks in the beginning. Just a suggestion from the non-exercise guru in the bunch ... I read elsewhere that you were walking a mile a day, at a pace of 2MPH. This is a great start, won't totally burn you out from overdoing in the beginning. Then I read that you added the incline into the routine already. Myself, I would work on the distance and speed first ... start gradually increasing the incline when you can get your speed up to a cardio level maybe? I think I read somewhere recently that a walking cardio level should be between 3MPH and 3.5 MPH - not too sure of that though. The incline is a great workout, I love it myself - but I also didn't add it until I was consistently up in speed and duration, as I felt it was tougher on the legs (which may be why your body is hanging on to fluids???), thus causing me to tire out faster. I've been working on the treadmill for many months now, walk at 4MPH and a varying incline level of 4-8 ... and I tell ya, I start feeling it at 20 minutes when on the higher incline - start declining the incline and immediately notice the difference. Maybe you could work a few days at your 2MPH level for 30 minutes (1 mile), then increase the speed by .1 or .2 MPH (I'm making the assumption your treadmill is similar to mine ... fan and all) - go for another few days and up the speed again. If you keep the length of time the same, you will notice you are walking a bit further each day. You will still get the same benefits of the flat workout, without overtiring yourself in the early stages - which often leads to early burnout. Save that tough stuff for later! Just my 2 cents worth, anyway. G Joyce On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 15:47:37 -0600, "WannaBLean" wrote: HOW??? I've even been exercising!! I am SO bummed out! |
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 02:16:51 -0600, Joyce wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:29:15 -0800, Fred wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:37:21 -0600, Joyce wrote: Yup, saving money would be nice ... daughter is pushing for one of the newer models though. Hers is the lowest storage size and she would like to increase it. We're into negotiations right now. G GGGGGGGG. Bring in the Teamsters Oh, now that's a dirty word! I was raised by a teamster dad, brother is a teamster, hub is the only one who isn't - yet he carries teamster insurance. Go figure. LOL! I have a feeling daughter may win on this one, just not today. I'm broke. Paid the entire braces fee in one shot (because orthodontist would give me a 4% discount if I did ... and you know how much I like a bargain). Came home and found the auto insurance bill in the mailbox. sigh Oh, yeah, I've had months like that, too. Last year, suddenly the dental insurance did not cover the extra dental visits - which is odd. Clearly, the dentist jacks up the routine cleaning stuff to take advantage of our insurance so that if you have a filling, well, wow, sorry but you don't have enough coverage for that. Find her an old transitor radio at a thrift shop for the interim (g) I feel for your scale woes, am sure mine aren't going to be nice this week. I don't know what's gotten into me but I feel like I've done nothing but eat, eat, eat. Yesterday was better under control, but not enough to make up for the week-end. Sigh I am beginning to wonder if maybe I should try cutting down meals a bit (half a sweet potato or less shrimp) and save the points for junk??? (G) Shrink that pastrami sandwich a bit (have them cut in 1/3's rather than half. Ideas like that. I may have to do the same, at least temporarily to get me over the hump. I've noticed this week it is the snacks that are pushing me over the edge. Normally they haven't been too much of a problem, but for some reason this week is causing me fits. I don't know how much I can scale them back though. Dinner is about the only possibility. Lunch and breakfast are already about as low as I care to go. I am afraid cutting any lower and it will only be pushing me into more snacks ... kind of a double edged sword. Or ... I will have to really rein in the evening munchies. Or ... kill off that damn bottle of Mudslides that is still in the fridge. It's almost empty. G You may be right. Too little main course might lead to even more snacking. The body may just want to hold at this weight. And maybe I just need to cater to it. A WW leader who shall remain nameless has suggested that my weekend's probably need more food. After all I am not still burning off the self-storage points that use to gather around my waist. I may experiment a bit. I think the snacking was better last night - that's two nights after the weekend. And I recall it was similar last week. Or is it just that today is WI and my mind accepts LESS. Joyce On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:22:05 -0800, Fred wrote: Well, if you can save some $$ on the ipod replacement = that would be nice. I think that there was a review of a newer, smaller model the other day. The ski trip was not perfect (G) But it was nice being out and I did not break or twist anything. The scale this morning was NOT pleasant - Lesanne will almost certainly win and I will lose (well, not weight) On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:47:56 -0600, Joyce wrote: Thanks for the info, I hadn't heard of the suits. I won't be joining, I'm not a suing type of personality. I do see where they have a program of sorts in operation though. $99 plus shipping and they replace your ipod with a current model (probably refurbished) with a working battery. It isn't the best option, but is an option. I do wish they would have made these batteries easier to replace on your own. I found directions, but they look very confusing. It might be the perfect job for my electrician brother though. G Hope you had a wonderful ski trip! I DID make it back to the treadmill, felt sooooooo wonderful ... and again this morning. I think I'm trying valiantly to do damage control ... week-end has been totally out of control and character for me. Ah well, there's always next week. G Joyce On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 07:25:05 -0800, Fred wrote: I've read about bad batteries on the ipods and a potential class action suit. Heading off skiing (just finished the oatmeal - down for the sardines...).............. On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 02:38:13 -0600, Joyce wrote: I'm hopeful, guess it all depends on him and how bad he wants it - right? Financing options have changed a bit ... meaning mom and dad will not foot the entire bill now until he proves to us that he does want the education. Did the same for his older sis, he doesn't get special treatment. Mom is tough, but also a firm believer that kids will think twice about wasting their own hard earned money. G His friends are also going to college locally - one in a local 4 yr. school, another at the jr. college. It isn't uncommon here either, our jr. college's enrollment has reached the 30,000 student status - which seems very large to me. Years ago it was ranked as one of the top jr. colleges in the nation. Not sure where it ranks now, but will make the assumption that it still is good. But again, you're going to get out of it what you put into it. Time will tell. He does seem a bit more enthused than I have seen him before, is enrolled now and can register officially for classes next Friday. He has several classes jotted down that he wants to take, says he can't believe how many choices are available here, as compared to where he was going. But yes, what he is going through is nothing new ... to anyone. I seem to remember having a difficult time myself - then decided college just wasn't the answer for me. Back *then*, companies were very willing to train on the job. It's a much different world today. G As exciting as my life is, I think I could stand to add a few new toys. Might push the *who's on top* highlight down a few pegs. G I was looking on amazon, prices don't really look too bad. Think I will have to make a stop into a local store though and get some answers as to what exactly I will need and what will work with minimal changes/effect to my existing setup. It may have to wait a bit - just found out this evening that daughters IPod died a sudden death. There's another $400 I hadn't counted on. sigh I've avoided the meringues today, but did feel the necessity to finally have another mudslide. G Back to back high point days ... probably not a good plan, but I'll live through it. Back on the treadmill tomorrow, no excuses, no procrastination. That and the normal 20 loads of laundry that are still awaiting me. I wish I could blame my lack of ambition on a cold or another illness, but alas - it's just me in a bad funk. This too shall pass, and soon I hope. I don't avoid pasta, but usually have it at home where I can control things better. I have become used to the wheat pasta, have learned to cook it a bit longer and then the texture seems better to me. But ... I caved last nite. Journalled it all, over 7 points for the day - not good but sure have seen worse. G Normally if I know I'm doing the pasta thing, I will cover for it elsewhere - this was just one of those days where it sprang up as a surprise. Kind of like dinner this evening. Last minute hub decided he wanted pizza. sigh Joyce On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:43:56 -0800, Fred wrote: Hope the local college works out for him. I will not admit to having to feel my way in my second semester way back when. But it worked out. At least, I think it did (G) I went to college from home - all in NYC and environs. Many of us stayed local since it was reasonaby priced (like FREE) and a good (back then) education. Toys are what keep life exciting - no? Oh, maybe that was financially broke - well, one or the other. The wireless has dropped substantially in price - really. Miss Meringues are sitting here now. Dessert after my pickled herring sandwich. Waiting for a friend to call and up or down on a bike ride. We are trying to decide if we are willing to possibly get rained on! (G) Should have gone skiing but with a cold I figured I would wait another day. (aside, we just decided to go for it! ) I still have avoided pasta - pretty much since I started WW. I did do the buckwheat noodles about 3 months ago with a then Atkins friends. She has since abandoned food to lose weight! (G) On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:17:16 -0600, Joyce wrote: Thanks again. Not sure if we are terrific, maybe more like jekyll and hyde? g We have that tendency to go ballistic when alone (or with each other) then calm down when the kids are around ... able to talk more reason into each other. Once the smoke has cleared, we seem to be able to better cope. Thank heavens the kids see very little of the smoke. G I remember never being allowed to make my own decisions, or if I did I was always told they were wrong - have sworn that I would not do that to my kids. It has taken me most of my life to overcome the lack of confidence in myself. So if they make mistakes, they make mistakes. As long as they learn from them, I figure it turns out ok. And dear ol' sonny boy is such a complex being - hard for me to figure him out. The boy just had a rough year, advisor from hell who set him back a few paces and he never took the initiative to fight her. Ah well, live and learn. What I find is very funny (again, my warped sense of humor) is that the local college was our first choice for him - as he is such a homebody and really didn't know what he wanted to do. So again, his choice to venture off, - and now it's his choice to return. The treadmill is what is pushing me to look into the wireless ... just another gimick, another toy. And you know how I love my toys! Working from the couch would be *ok*, but definitely not a necessity - and not interested enough to make me run out and investigate how much the option would cost me. For the purpose of amusement though ......... hehehe. Still no more mudslides here. I keep looking at the bottle, but haven't really had the desire to venture to it. I really am not much of a drinker. And yesterday I really overdid things. Waited much too long for dinner (7:30pm) and was absolutely starving. Did the carry-in thing, pasta - not the best choice and very large serving ... which I ate in entirety. Probably 20 points worth for dinner alone. Added a skinny cow sandwich later in the evening. Went out for lunch, but at least did keep that at fish and veggies. STILL - was a much heavier day than I've had in a long time. Why is it that there are just *those days* where you are hungry no matter what you eat or what you do (or what you don't do)? Joyce On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 08:31:49 -0800, Fred wrote: Well, it sounds like mom and dad are terrific parents providing a supportive home and allowing the kids to make their own decisions. I am sure it will work out. Sometimes college is overwhelming and like WW, you can get back in the game when the time is right. The local option may work best for now. Working wirelessly from out in the yard (not for months yet if you can see the screen) or from the dining room or fireplace is neat but we can get too spoiled, too. But exploiting the treadmill's interactive or download features would push me (G) Another TOY! No, no mudslides - just way too many meringues - I need to retake the environment issue. I've been bringing home too much tempting JUNK. And eating it. But I did well with the leg of lamb. Carved it last night into 2.5 - 3.0 oz servings and froze it after eating a bit too much wonderful "crust" the first night. On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 02:17:40 -0600, Joyce wrote: Thanks Fred. Might not have worked out the way dad and I would prefer - but it really isn't our choice - the kid needs to be happy, it's his life. He called me while I was in the oral surgeons, as he was headed back to college to talk to his professor. Asked me if he should just withdraw as long as he was there. Once again I told him I would not make that decision, he had our blessing no matter what he decided ... as well as a home to come to. I guess I look at things oddly ... would hate to have any of my children think there problems are so huge that there is no possible way out other than a *forever* choice ... and seems to be quite a few that do end up thinking that. Soooo - he is home now, registering for classes at the local college tomorrow - while he sorts things out. When he came back home, I couldn't believe how much more relaxed he looked already - finally looked like he at least had some life in him. He's 19, still has a lot of growin' up left in him. G Thanks for the network info. I also checked with a friend of my sons, he pretty much confirmed what you said. If I recall correctly, he said something about purchasing a router that had maybe one wireless port but also had several wired ports (or hubs or whatever???) .. then run the laptops off the wireless. It's a thought, and I would enjoy being able to work on a computer from the dining room, or family room ... without stringing temp cords all over the house. One more thing for me to think about. You know how I feel about thinking! sigh Did you find the mudslides? I haven't indulged in any more lately ... just might have to move in that direction tomorrow though. It's sounding pretty danged good! Joyce On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:22:53 -0800, Fred wrote: Don't slip on too much mudslide. Glad to hear things are sorting out. I am not a network expert if there are such people these days but I think you could link a desktop with a wired network to a laptop with wireless and work with the type systems. But as you say, it probably is not that important. I do enjoy the wireless laptop downstairs beside the fireplace. Take care and I will have to find mudslide - hmmm, maybe on the lunch time walk in the predicted sunshine I can get to the state liquor store (G) On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 02:30:17 -0600, Joyce wrote: Thanks Fred. Everything is ok, everyone is safe and healthy, which is what is important. As I told my older brother this week-end ... just another one of those freakin' growth experiences. G Then I told hub I lived through it with my older brother, lived through it myself, we lived through it with our oldest girl ... will live through this current bout and then just think ... only one more to make it through! G It's just the emotions that are totally shot right now. I've been so hesitant moving to a wireless network, don't think I've talked to a single person who has had good experiences with them. And if I did put one in, would I then have to disconnect my normal network ... or would I be able to pick and choose when I wanted to use the wireless? I am just not thinking clearly right now, probably not the best time to venture into this project. G Unfortunately, I also have not returned to the treadmill and don't foresee being able to for the next few days ... definitely not tomorrow anyway ... well ... maybe by dinnertime? sigh Littlest daughter is having 2 teeth pulled in the morning, in order to have braces put on. She is my worrier, timid little sould that she is - and scared to pieces. She is beggin for a general anesthetic - which scares me. Guess I'll let the oral surgeon and her make this call (I just get to pay for it). Bring her home, see if eldest can watch her sister for a bit while I go to traffic court with hub. Hopefully have some answers from sonny boy in there somewhere. Gonna be another one of those long days, but hey! I got me a whole bottle of mudslides in the fridge ... makes for an easy dinner. G Joyce On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 18:32:41 -0800, Fred wrote: First, I hope all is or goes well. Hey, a wireless network will easily provide a laptop with the internet in the darn basement - that's no excuse anymore (G) I have not returned to the treadmill - was too tired from biking on saturday and skiing on sunday (g) On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 08:21:58 -0600, Joyce wrote: I have no idea what trails they have, don't have the internet access set up in the basement. And puh-lease don't give me any ideas about trying to tackle THAT job in the near future. G How come the treadmill you were on kept dropping the incline down? Or did I miss something here? I haven't tried doing the incline at a slower pace - have found it is so much more interesting (the after-effects) of hitting them at 4mph ... if I go any faster my little legs will be jogging. G It's been another one of those long week-ends with no treadmill included - not pleasant stuff going on. But we are hoping the situation now has some viable solutions ... will know more today and definitive answers on Tuesday. So at least are moving in on some answers. Am hoping to catch up on the newsgroup and emails, then get sonny boy out and moving ... then hit the treadmill while awaiting todays set of answers. At least I got me a plan of attack today! Joyce On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 17:39:12 -0800, Fred wrote: Programming trails I'd love Yosemite. See if they have the Mt Si trail. 4 miles up with a gain of approx 3,400 feet. I just used the treadmill at work today for the 1st time. 15 minutes on hill work. But only about 2mph but I kept upping the slope to 10 whatever and it kept dropping it back down (G) On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 08:39:06 -0600, Joyce wrote: hehehe - I don't know you, but I do know ME ... I am the burnout queen. g I even splurged and bought myself a 13" television with a dvd player built in, to give me something to keep my mind off of the boredom that can set in. Then splurged on some movies and television series dvd's ... making the treadmill time, MY time and something to look forward to (a bit). I still overdid things a bit yesterday, wanted to check out the even higher inclines and see how much different they were. OY! They are tough, I think I at least now know exactly what a high intensity workout is supposed to make you feel. LOL Yesterday was the first time I used the fan, not much need to when your basement is sitting at about 30 degrees. I was in my sweats, had to throw my bathrobe on in addition ... and after 15 minutes I had to turn the fan on. Oh, it is wonderful! Does your treadmill also have the ability to be hooked into the manufacturers internet website for additional programming and tracking? I haven't done it with mine, don't want to string any more cables through the house, but it did sound really interesting and fun. Can hook it up, and get programming on the computer monitor to walk through different scenery settings. And through the website it will also automatically control/increase/decrease the incline and speed to coincide with the terrain. Cool, huh? I didn't even realize this until I read the manual. Joyce On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 06:32:07 -0600, "WannaBLean" wrote: I'm going to follow your advice. It's almost like you "know me". I DO burn out easily and I don't want to this time. Thank you for the good advice. Hugs. "Joyce" wrote in message news:e0lu10t13ifg09qc6k3bqujrod5 ... I'm going by memory here, from posts I've seen from you throughout the week. Haven't you just begun exercising recently? If so, your muscles are more than likely hanging onto water while repairing the stress on them from the new activity. This happened to me also, still does on occassion when I try to push too hard, too fast. It takes awhile for the body to let go of the water, took me a good two weeks in the beginning. Just a suggestion from the non-exercise guru in the bunch ... I read elsewhere that you were walking a mile a day, at a pace of 2MPH. This is a great start, won't totally burn you out from overdoing in the beginning. Then I read that you added the incline into the routine already. Myself, I would work on the distance and speed first ... start gradually increasing the incline when you can get your speed up to a cardio level maybe? I think I read somewhere recently that a walking cardio level should be between 3MPH and 3.5 MPH - not too sure of that though. The incline is a great workout, I love it myself - but I also didn't add it until I was consistently up in speed and duration, as I felt it was tougher on the legs (which may be why your body is hanging on to fluids???), thus causing me to tire out faster. I've been working on the treadmill for many months now, walk at 4MPH and a varying incline level of 4-8 ... and I tell ya, I start feeling it at 20 minutes when on the higher incline - start declining the incline and immediately notice the difference. Maybe you could work a few days at your 2MPH level for 30 minutes (1 mile), then increase the speed by .1 or .2 MPH (I'm making the assumption your treadmill is similar to mine ... fan and all) - go for another few days and up the speed again. If you keep the length of time the same, you will notice you are walking a bit further each day. You will still get the same benefits of the flat workout, without overtiring yourself in the early stages - which often leads to early burnout. Save that tough stuff for later! Just my 2 cents worth, anyway. G Joyce On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 15:47:37 -0600, "WannaBLean" wrote: HOW??? I've even been exercising!! I am SO bummed out! |
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Actually knowing my family genes the way I do I probably have a long
time to wait for Murdock to hit puberty! The boys in our family take a long time to grow up (physically and mentally). It's a blessing. No worrying about them getting into sex or drugs...they're still playing with computer games and cards. Connie Joyce wrote: LOL! And we can't stop either one from happening. Puberty isn't fun, but I think you have a few years yet before you have to worry. And you can always hope that your son is a bit late. g I remember seeing my son staring at those girls too, but I never knew why he was staring ... maybe he thought they were wearing goofy clothing? Grin I was lucky though, he was shy enough that he didn't act on anything until he was much older. He made it through highschool, never had an official girlfriend so didn't go through all those lovely teenage headaches. Now the girlfriends are hanging around, but at least he is more mature and able to handle the emotional baggage that comes along with them. Youngest daughter in an entirely different story. sigh Joyce On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:24:49 -0500, Connie wrote: You're not ready for a quiet house and I'm not ready for puberty but they're both coming (like it or not). I caught Murdock staring at a girl the other day...OMG he's only 10 ... it can't be happening yet ... can it? He just blushed and looked away. ;-) Connie Joyce wrote: Yup, and when you think you have it all figured out the kids go and change the rules on you. G I'm becoming so much closer to a new stage in my life. Still parenting, probably always will be regardless as to the age of my kids. But more and more hub and I are finding ourselves home alone ... both kids off and running in the evenings, have their own plans, own lives. Meal plans are difficult at best, never knowing who will be around, IF anyone. I'm guessing this is supposed to be our preparation for the inevitable. I'm not quite ready for this totally quiet house ... even though I do like my quiet time. g Joyce On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 20:01:24 -0500, Connie wrote: I'm learning something about parenting all the time. It sure is experimental. Connie Joyce wrote: Thanks for the vote of confidence, Connie. I tell my kids they are just guinea pigs ... parenting is purely an experimental process. G We do try hard though, not much more we can do than that ... right? Joyce On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:37:15 -0500, Connie wrote: Joyce, you sound like a really great mom!! Keep up the good work!! Connie Joyce wrote: Thanks PR. So far he seems ok to me, has some spark back in his eyes and a new plan of attack. At least he now sees there are still options in his life, this does not make him a failure. Tomorrow (Friday) he is registering for classes at the local college, keep him going while giving him some time to sort things out also. Guess he at least feels better knowing he would be allowed to make whatever decision he felt was best for HIM, and mom/dad weren't going to beat him up over it. He is 19, has a whole lot of time ahead of him to figure things out. G Daughter came through the teeth pulling like a trooper - did beg for more than just a local anesthetic though. I took her to the oral surgeon I have been to, is a wonderfully gentle and caring man. He told her she could ABSOLUTELY have whatever she felt was needed, no way did he want her fearing or feeling pain or any nervousness. She finally opted for a little bit of gas along with the local. I could deal with that a lot better than the thought of the general anesthetic. She didn't seem to have much pain, was taking some motrin though ... but thinks it was more for the discomfort of the seperators that had also been put into her teeth. Today no motrin, so she must be feeling much better. I'm breathing, I'm breathing! Things have calmed down now, crisis appears to have passed. G Joyce On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:40:16 -0600, Prairie Roots wrote: Sounds like your son's in the middle of a major life crisis. I truly hope he comes through this whole, which most likely he will with you in his corner. I'm sorry you're having to suffer his anxiety as well. I feel for your daughter. Having braces put on is what turned me into a confirmed dentalphobe. Now I ask for general anesthetic every time I get my teeth cleaned; I settle for valium. Course if it was my daughter asking for general anesthetic, I'd be nervous.G I hope your day went better than it sounded in advance. Things can only look UP, right?! Take a few minutes for yourself, and remember to breathe. Prairie Roots On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 02:18:30 -0600, Joyce wrote: Thanks PR. Todays plan of attack blew out the window ... along with yesterdays *good* set of answers. sigh Tomorrow is another day, a few other options, then time to make some informed decisions. Nothing overly major in the grand scheme of things, just blips in the road. Son hadn't been doing well in college all year, grades dropped horrendously but he had said nothing. We worried quietly here at home, while he tried valiantly to dig himself out. Turns out he was given a bunch of bad information from his advisor and baseball coach ... took a class he had no need to take ... entire grade turned out to be based solely on final exam, which turned out to be an oral resume and job interview that was drawn out of a hat when he entered the class for the exam (he drew a career he knew absolutely nothing about) ... failed thus making him ineligible for baseball. In the grand scheme of things this is really unimportant ... to him it is the world and he is currently shattered. He has had the carrot dangled in front of his nose, so to speak - had pro scouts talking to him the last few months, telling him at this given moment he has a 1:4 chance of being drafted - not great but still not bad for a 19 year old. BUT he says needs to play for it to happen, and it is his dream. So what do we do? Tell him to give up his dream? I think dreams are what keep us going, keep us alive - I hate to just tell him to quit and grow up aleady. So this week-end he has been investigating transferring schools. Yesterday he was all set up, went to register today only to be told that the school he is currently at has a wierd class schedule which has made him ineligible for transferring deadlines (current college is just starting a new term, whereas other colleges are much further along already). It also explains why his current school has so many transferring IN at this time of year. My heart once again broke for him today when he came home, he looked so darned defeated. He is kicking himself for not saying anything to us over the holidays, he didn't want to let us down. which he never would anyway Had another heart to heart with him this afternoon, told him if he is really that unhappy where he is at, then maybe consider transferring into the local jr. college during spring quarter ... take some time to make a decision for next year. Does it make sense for him to stick it out where he is currently at, only to not go back next year anyway? So tomorrow morning he is back to the jr. college to talk to the coach there, see if maybe he can even just work out with the team while attending classes ... talk to one other school in the area .... then back to current school to see if he can sweet talk his professor into giving him an incomplete (probably not, is a first year teacher who appears to be in authoratative mode). At least by knowing *answers* hopefully he can make an informed decision and hopefully become more relaxed and happy. I'm out bright and early tomorrow morning with daughter, she has to have 2 teeth pulled for braces ... then afternoon in traffic court with hubby who hit a woman who was backing down a one way street ... it's gonna be another one of those looooooooong days. sigh I am incredibly tired, yet can't sleep. Joyce On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 21:05:29 -0600, Prairie Roots wrote: I'll be thinking of you tomorrow and hoping that all works out well. Peace be with you. Prairie Roots On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 08:21:58 -0600, Joyce wrote: I have no idea what trails they have, don't have the internet access set up in the basement. And puh-lease don't give me any ideas about trying to tackle THAT job in the near future. G How come the treadmill you were on kept dropping the incline down? Or did I miss something here? I haven't tried doing the incline at a slower pace - have found it is so much more interesting (the after-effects) of hitting them at 4mph ... if I go any faster my little legs will be jogging. G It's been another one of those long week-ends with no treadmill included - not pleasant stuff going on. But we are hoping the situation now has some viable solutions ... will know more today and definitive answers on Tuesday. So at least are moving in on some answers. Am hoping to catch up on the newsgroup and emails, then get sonny boy out and moving ... then hit the treadmill while awaiting todays set of answers. At least I got me a plan of attack today! Joyce On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 17:39:12 -0800, Fred wrote: Programming trails I'd love Yosemite. See if they have the Mt Si trail. 4 miles up with a gain of approx 3,400 feet. I just used the treadmill at work today for the 1st time. 15 minutes on hill work. But only about 2mph but I kept upping the slope to 10 whatever and it kept dropping it back down (G) On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 08:39:06 -0600, Joyce wrote: hehehe - I don't know you, but I do know ME ... I am the burnout queen. g I even splurged and bought myself a 13" television with a dvd player built in, to give me something to keep my mind off of the boredom that can set in. Then splurged on some movies and television series dvd's ... making the treadmill time, MY time and something to look forward to (a bit). I still overdid things a bit yesterday, wanted to check out the even higher inclines and see how much different they were. OY! They are tough, I think I at least now know exactly what a high intensity workout is supposed to make you feel. LOL Yesterday was the first time I used the fan, not much need to when your basement is sitting at about 30 degrees. I was in my sweats, had to throw my bathrobe on in addition ... and after 15 minutes I had to turn the fan on. Oh, it is wonderful! Does your treadmill also have the ability to be hooked into the manufacturers internet website for additional programming and tracking? I haven't done it with mine, don't want to string any more cables through the house, but it did sound really interesting and fun. Can hook it up, and get programming on the computer monitor to walk through different scenery settings. And through the website it will also automatically control/increase/decrease the incline and speed to coincide with the terrain. Cool, huh? I didn't even realize this until I read the manual. Joyce On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 06:32:07 -0600, "WannaBLean" wrote: I'm going to follow your advice. It's almost like you "know me". I DO burn out easily and I don't want to this time. Thank you for the good advice. Hugs. "Joyce" wrote in message news:e0lu10t13ifg09qc6k3bqujrod55271 ... I'm going by memory here, from posts I've seen from you throughout the week. Haven't you just begun exercising recently? If so, your muscles are more than likely hanging onto water while repairing the stress on them from the new activity. This happened to me also, still does on occassion when I try to push too hard, too fast. It takes awhile for the body to let go of the water, took me a good two weeks in the beginning. Just a suggestion from the non-exercise guru in the bunch ... I read elsewhere that you were walking a mile a day, at a pace of 2MPH. This is a great start, won't totally burn you out from overdoing in the beginning. Then I read that you added the incline into the routine already. Myself, I would work on the distance and speed first ... start gradually increasing the incline when you can get your speed up to a cardio level maybe? I think I read somewhere recently that a walking cardio level should be between 3MPH and 3.5 MPH - not too sure of that though. The incline is a great workout, I love it myself - but I also didn't add it until I was consistently up in speed and duration, as I felt it was tougher on the legs (which may be why your body is hanging on to fluids???), thus causing me to tire out faster. I've been working on the treadmill for many months now, walk at 4MPH and a varying incline level of 4-8 ... and I tell ya, I start feeling it at 20 minutes when on the higher incline - start declining the incline and immediately notice the difference. Maybe you could work a few days at your 2MPH level for 30 minutes (1 mile), then increase the speed by .1 or .2 MPH (I'm making the assumption your treadmill is similar to mine ... fan and all) - go for another few days and up the speed again. If you keep the length of time the same, you will notice you are walking a bit further each day. You will still get the same benefits of the flat workout, without overtiring yourself in the early stages - which often leads to early burnout. Save that tough stuff for later! Just my 2 cents worth, anyway. G Joyce On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 15:47:37 -0600, "WannaBLean" wrote: HOW??? I've even been exercising!! I am SO bummed out! -- Cheers, Connie Walsh 241.5/204/155 RAFL 210.5/204/198.5 |
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 02:16:51 -0600, Joyce wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:29:15 -0800, Fred wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:37:21 -0600, Joyce wrote: Yup, saving money would be nice ... daughter is pushing for one of the newer models though. Hers is the lowest storage size and she would like to increase it. We're into negotiations right now. G GGGGGGGG. Bring in the Teamsters Oh, now that's a dirty word! I was raised by a teamster dad, brother is a teamster, hub is the only one who isn't - yet he carries teamster insurance. Go figure. LOL! I have a feeling daughter may win on this one, just not today. I'm broke. Paid the entire braces fee in one shot (because orthodontist would give me a 4% discount if I did ... and you know how much I like a bargain). Came home and found the auto insurance bill in the mailbox. sigh Oh, yeah, I've had months like that, too. Last year, suddenly the dental insurance did not cover the extra dental visits - which is odd. Clearly, the dentist jacks up the routine cleaning stuff to take advantage of our insurance so that if you have a filling, well, wow, sorry but you don't have enough coverage for that. Find her an old transitor radio at a thrift shop for the interim (g) LOL! You don't have children, do you. It's put on hold, we got her old iPod working again and she will jolly well have to deal with this one for the time being. I swear, this is the kid that will put us into the poor house ... she is always wanting something ... and none of it comes cheaply. G I feel for your scale woes, am sure mine aren't going to be nice this week. I don't know what's gotten into me but I feel like I've done nothing but eat, eat, eat. Yesterday was better under control, but not enough to make up for the week-end. Sigh I am beginning to wonder if maybe I should try cutting down meals a bit (half a sweet potato or less shrimp) and save the points for junk??? (G) Shrink that pastrami sandwich a bit (have them cut in 1/3's rather than half. Ideas like that. I may have to do the same, at least temporarily to get me over the hump. I've noticed this week it is the snacks that are pushing me over the edge. Normally they haven't been too much of a problem, but for some reason this week is causing me fits. I don't know how much I can scale them back though. Dinner is about the only possibility. Lunch and breakfast are already about as low as I care to go. I am afraid cutting any lower and it will only be pushing me into more snacks ... kind of a double edged sword. Or ... I will have to really rein in the evening munchies. Or ... kill off that damn bottle of Mudslides that is still in the fridge. It's almost empty. G You may be right. Too little main course might lead to even more snacking. The body may just want to hold at this weight. And maybe I just need to cater to it. A WW leader who shall remain nameless has suggested that my weekend's probably need more food. After all I am not still burning off the self-storage points that use to gather around my waist. I have a feeling you may be finding or accepting the same thing that I have ... we're just where our bodies want or need to be. Up/down a few pounds, it all balances out - but no dramatic drops that seem to stay in place permanently. I think Lesanne hit the nail on the head in a prior post when she said that if we are still losing weight easily, then we aren't *there* yet. I'm thinking, my friend, we are there ... whether we like it or not. I may experiment a bit. I think the snacking was better last night - that's two nights after the weekend. And I recall it was similar last week. Or is it just that today is WI and my mind accepts LESS. For the most part my snacking has been pretty well under control, with exception to last week. G Don't know what got into me or why. The last few days I haven't felt those same hunger munchies that nothing would satisfy. Maybe I need to keep better track of these episodes? I wonder if they have anything to do with hitting a lower than usual weight, like the body sending signals to eat, eat, eat! Joyce |
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Count your blessings! G Boys do seem to be a bit slower than the girls. I
noticed with all my kids that it was the girls who chased after the boys, the boys just kind of went along with things - maybe a peer pressure thing? My son didn't really go bonkers until he was in college, then he seemed to get bit by the female bug rather badly. G Joyce On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 20:25:12 -0500, Connie wrote: Actually knowing my family genes the way I do I probably have a long time to wait for Murdock to hit puberty! The boys in our family take a long time to grow up (physically and mentally). It's a blessing. No worrying about them getting into sex or drugs...they're still playing with computer games and cards. Connie Joyce wrote: LOL! And we can't stop either one from happening. Puberty isn't fun, but I think you have a few years yet before you have to worry. And you can always hope that your son is a bit late. g I remember seeing my son staring at those girls too, but I never knew why he was staring ... maybe he thought they were wearing goofy clothing? Grin I was lucky though, he was shy enough that he didn't act on anything until he was much older. He made it through highschool, never had an official girlfriend so didn't go through all those lovely teenage headaches. Now the girlfriends are hanging around, but at least he is more mature and able to handle the emotional baggage that comes along with them. Youngest daughter in an entirely different story. sigh Joyce On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:24:49 -0500, Connie wrote: You're not ready for a quiet house and I'm not ready for puberty but they're both coming (like it or not). I caught Murdock staring at a girl the other day...OMG he's only 10 ... it can't be happening yet ... can it? He just blushed and looked away. ;-) Connie Joyce wrote: Yup, and when you think you have it all figured out the kids go and change the rules on you. G I'm becoming so much closer to a new stage in my life. Still parenting, probably always will be regardless as to the age of my kids. But more and more hub and I are finding ourselves home alone ... both kids off and running in the evenings, have their own plans, own lives. Meal plans are difficult at best, never knowing who will be around, IF anyone. I'm guessing this is supposed to be our preparation for the inevitable. I'm not quite ready for this totally quiet house ... even though I do like my quiet time. g Joyce On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 20:01:24 -0500, Connie wrote: I'm learning something about parenting all the time. It sure is experimental. Connie Joyce wrote: Thanks for the vote of confidence, Connie. I tell my kids they are just guinea pigs ... parenting is purely an experimental process. G We do try hard though, not much more we can do than that ... right? Joyce On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:37:15 -0500, Connie wrote: Joyce, you sound like a really great mom!! Keep up the good work!! Connie Joyce wrote: Thanks PR. So far he seems ok to me, has some spark back in his eyes and a new plan of attack. At least he now sees there are still options in his life, this does not make him a failure. Tomorrow (Friday) he is registering for classes at the local college, keep him going while giving him some time to sort things out also. Guess he at least feels better knowing he would be allowed to make whatever decision he felt was best for HIM, and mom/dad weren't going to beat him up over it. He is 19, has a whole lot of time ahead of him to figure things out. G Daughter came through the teeth pulling like a trooper - did beg for more than just a local anesthetic though. I took her to the oral surgeon I have been to, is a wonderfully gentle and caring man. He told her she could ABSOLUTELY have whatever she felt was needed, no way did he want her fearing or feeling pain or any nervousness. She finally opted for a little bit of gas along with the local. I could deal with that a lot better than the thought of the general anesthetic. She didn't seem to have much pain, was taking some motrin though ... but thinks it was more for the discomfort of the seperators that had also been put into her teeth. Today no motrin, so she must be feeling much better. I'm breathing, I'm breathing! Things have calmed down now, crisis appears to have passed. G Joyce On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:40:16 -0600, Prairie Roots wrote: Sounds like your son's in the middle of a major life crisis. I truly hope he comes through this whole, which most likely he will with you in his corner. I'm sorry you're having to suffer his anxiety as well. I feel for your daughter. Having braces put on is what turned me into a confirmed dentalphobe. Now I ask for general anesthetic every time I get my teeth cleaned; I settle for valium. Course if it was my daughter asking for general anesthetic, I'd be nervous.G I hope your day went better than it sounded in advance. Things can only look UP, right?! Take a few minutes for yourself, and remember to breathe. Prairie Roots On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 02:18:30 -0600, Joyce wrote: Thanks PR. Todays plan of attack blew out the window ... along with yesterdays *good* set of answers. sigh Tomorrow is another day, a few other options, then time to make some informed decisions. Nothing overly major in the grand scheme of things, just blips in the road. Son hadn't been doing well in college all year, grades dropped horrendously but he had said nothing. We worried quietly here at home, while he tried valiantly to dig himself out. Turns out he was given a bunch of bad information from his advisor and baseball coach ... took a class he had no need to take ... entire grade turned out to be based solely on final exam, which turned out to be an oral resume and job interview that was drawn out of a hat when he entered the class for the exam (he drew a career he knew absolutely nothing about) ... failed thus making him ineligible for baseball. In the grand scheme of things this is really unimportant ... to him it is the world and he is currently shattered. He has had the carrot dangled in front of his nose, so to speak - had pro scouts talking to him the last few months, telling him at this given moment he has a 1:4 chance of being drafted - not great but still not bad for a 19 year old. BUT he says needs to play for it to happen, and it is his dream. So what do we do? Tell him to give up his dream? I think dreams are what keep us going, keep us alive - I hate to just tell him to quit and grow up aleady. So this week-end he has been investigating transferring schools. Yesterday he was all set up, went to register today only to be told that the school he is currently at has a wierd class schedule which has made him ineligible for transferring deadlines (current college is just starting a new term, whereas other colleges are much further along already). It also explains why his current school has so many transferring IN at this time of year. My heart once again broke for him today when he came home, he looked so darned defeated. He is kicking himself for not saying anything to us over the holidays, he didn't want to let us down. which he never would anyway Had another heart to heart with him this afternoon, told him if he is really that unhappy where he is at, then maybe consider transferring into the local jr. college during spring quarter ... take some time to make a decision for next year. Does it make sense for him to stick it out where he is currently at, only to not go back next year anyway? So tomorrow morning he is back to the jr. college to talk to the coach there, see if maybe he can even just work out with the team while attending classes ... talk to one other school in the area .... then back to current school to see if he can sweet talk his professor into giving him an incomplete (probably not, is a first year teacher who appears to be in authoratative mode). At least by knowing *answers* hopefully he can make an informed decision and hopefully become more relaxed and happy. I'm out bright and early tomorrow morning with daughter, she has to have 2 teeth pulled for braces ... then afternoon in traffic court with hubby who hit a woman who was backing down a one way street ... it's gonna be another one of those looooooooong days. sigh I am incredibly tired, yet can't sleep. Joyce On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 21:05:29 -0600, Prairie Roots wrote: I'll be thinking of you tomorrow and hoping that all works out well. Peace be with you. Prairie Roots On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 08:21:58 -0600, Joyce wrote: I have no idea what trails they have, don't have the internet access set up in the basement. And puh-lease don't give me any ideas about trying to tackle THAT job in the near future. G How come the treadmill you were on kept dropping the incline down? Or did I miss something here? I haven't tried doing the incline at a slower pace - have found it is so much more interesting (the after-effects) of hitting them at 4mph ... if I go any faster my little legs will be jogging. G It's been another one of those long week-ends with no treadmill included - not pleasant stuff going on. But we are hoping the situation now has some viable solutions ... will know more today and definitive answers on Tuesday. So at least are moving in on some answers. Am hoping to catch up on the newsgroup and emails, then get sonny boy out and moving ... then hit the treadmill while awaiting todays set of answers. At least I got me a plan of attack today! Joyce On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 17:39:12 -0800, Fred wrote: Programming trails I'd love Yosemite. See if they have the Mt Si trail. 4 miles up with a gain of approx 3,400 feet. I just used the treadmill at work today for the 1st time. 15 minutes on hill work. But only about 2mph but I kept upping the slope to 10 whatever and it kept dropping it back down (G) On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 08:39:06 -0600, Joyce wrote: hehehe - I don't know you, but I do know ME ... I am the burnout queen. g I even splurged and bought myself a 13" television with a dvd player built in, to give me something to keep my mind off of the boredom that can set in. Then splurged on some movies and television series dvd's ... making the treadmill time, MY time and something to look forward to (a bit). I still overdid things a bit yesterday, wanted to check out the even higher inclines and see how much different they were. OY! They are tough, I think I at least now know exactly what a high intensity workout is supposed to make you feel. LOL Yesterday was the first time I used the fan, not much need to when your basement is sitting at about 30 degrees. I was in my sweats, had to throw my bathrobe on in addition ... and after 15 minutes I had to turn the fan on. Oh, it is wonderful! Does your treadmill also have the ability to be hooked into the manufacturers internet website for additional programming and tracking? I haven't done it with mine, don't want to string any more cables through the house, but it did sound really interesting and fun. Can hook it up, and get programming on the computer monitor to walk through different scenery settings. And through the website it will also automatically control/increase/decrease the incline and speed to coincide with the terrain. Cool, huh? I didn't even realize this until I read the manual. Joyce On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 06:32:07 -0600, "WannaBLean" wrote: I'm going to follow your advice. It's almost like you "know me". I DO burn out easily and I don't want to this time. Thank you for the good advice. Hugs. "Joyce" wrote in message news:e0lu10t13ifg09qc6k3bqujrod5527 ... I'm going by memory here, from posts I've seen from you throughout the week. Haven't you just begun exercising recently? If so, your muscles are more than likely hanging onto water while repairing the stress on them from the new activity. This happened to me also, still does on occassion when I try to push too hard, too fast. It takes awhile for the body to let go of the water, took me a good two weeks in the beginning. Just a suggestion from the non-exercise guru in the bunch ... I read elsewhere that you were walking a mile a day, at a pace of 2MPH. This is a great start, won't totally burn you out from overdoing in the beginning. Then I read that you added the incline into the routine already. Myself, I would work on the distance and speed first ... start gradually increasing the incline when you can get your speed up to a cardio level maybe? I think I read somewhere recently that a walking cardio level should be between 3MPH and 3.5 MPH - not too sure of that though. The incline is a great workout, I love it myself - but I also didn't add it until I was consistently up in speed and duration, as I felt it was tougher on the legs (which may be why your body is hanging on to fluids???), thus causing me to tire out faster. I've been working on the treadmill for many months now, walk at 4MPH and a varying incline level of 4-8 ... and I tell ya, I start feeling it at 20 minutes when on the higher incline - start declining the incline and immediately notice the difference. Maybe you could work a few days at your 2MPH level for 30 minutes (1 mile), then increase the speed by .1 or .2 MPH (I'm making the assumption your treadmill is similar to mine ... fan and all) - go for another few days and up the speed again. If you keep the length of time the same, you will notice you are walking a bit further each day. You will still get the same benefits of the flat workout, without overtiring yourself in the early stages - which often leads to early burnout. Save that tough stuff for later! Just my 2 cents worth, anyway. G Joyce On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 15:47:37 -0600, "WannaBLean" wrote: HOW??? I've even been exercising!! I am SO bummed out! |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:44:12 -0600, Joyce wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 06:35:23 -0800, Fred wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 02:16:51 -0600, Joyce wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:29:15 -0800, Fred wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:37:21 -0600, Joyce wrote: I am beginning to wonder if maybe I should try cutting down meals a bit (half a sweet potato or less shrimp) and save the points for junk??? (G) Shrink that pastrami sandwich a bit (have them cut in 1/3's rather than half. Ideas like that. I may have to do the same, at least temporarily to get me over the hump. I've noticed this week it is the snacks that are pushing me over the edge. Normally they haven't been too much of a problem, but for some reason this week is causing me fits. I don't know how much I can scale them back though. Dinner is about the only possibility. Lunch and breakfast are already about as low as I care to go. I am afraid cutting any lower and it will only be pushing me into more snacks ... kind of a double edged sword. Or ... I will have to really rein in the evening munchies. Or ... kill off that damn bottle of Mudslides that is still in the fridge. It's almost empty. G You may be right. Too little main course might lead to even more snacking. The body may just want to hold at this weight. And maybe I just need to cater to it. A WW leader who shall remain nameless has suggested that my weekend's probably need more food. After all I am not still burning off the self-storage points that use to gather around my waist. I have a feeling you may be finding or accepting the same thing that I have ... we're just where our bodies want or need to be. Up/down a few pounds, it all balances out - but no dramatic drops that seem to stay in place permanently. I think Lesanne hit the nail on the head in a prior post when she said that if we are still losing weight easily, then we aren't *there* yet. I'm thinking, my friend, we are there ... whether we like it or not. I think you are right - I'm doing a good job of just wobbling in place - like riding a bicycle - a bit left and bit right and mostly straight ahead. A bit up, a bit down and mostly right on MAINTENANCE. Which is as it should be when you are where you belong. I may experiment a bit. I think the snacking was better last night - that's two nights after the weekend. And I recall it was similar last week. Or is it just that today is WI and my mind accepts LESS. For the most part my snacking has been pretty well under control, with exception to last week. G Don't know what got into me or why. The last few days I haven't felt those same hunger munchies that nothing would satisfy. Maybe I need to keep better track of these episodes? I wonder if they have anything to do with hitting a lower than usual weight, like the body sending signals to eat, eat, eat! Well, that's the ol' set point theory which, of course, we definitely accepted as the reason why we could not get the excess weight off BEFORE we got it off. But I am sure that the body does have its limits. Starvation mode or a modest form of it, I'm sure, is working to keep the body working correctly and nourished right. I do know (I wrote to Lesanne) that I am not noticeably hungry but just snacking. Are those the signals that I really do need those snacks? They are better snacks than years past. Joyce |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:09:51 -0800, Fred wrote:
You may be right. Too little main course might lead to even more snacking. The body may just want to hold at this weight. And maybe I just need to cater to it. A WW leader who shall remain nameless has suggested that my weekend's probably need more food. After all I am not still burning off the self-storage points that use to gather around my waist. I have a feeling you may be finding or accepting the same thing that I have ... we're just where our bodies want or need to be. Up/down a few pounds, it all balances out - but no dramatic drops that seem to stay in place permanently. I think Lesanne hit the nail on the head in a prior post when she said that if we are still losing weight easily, then we aren't *there* yet. I'm thinking, my friend, we are there ... whether we like it or not. I think you are right - I'm doing a good job of just wobbling in place - like riding a bicycle - a bit left and bit right and mostly straight ahead. A bit up, a bit down and mostly right on MAINTENANCE. Which is as it should be when you are where you belong. Yup, I think it is finally registering with me that seesawing a bit is just going to be a fact of life. Down again today, back to where I was last week. Then I killed off the mudslides tonite - so probably back up tomorrow. G I I may experiment a bit. I think the snacking was better last night - that's two nights after the weekend. And I recall it was similar last week. Or is it just that today is WI and my mind accepts LESS. For the most part my snacking has been pretty well under control, with exception to last week. G Don't know what got into me or why. The last few days I haven't felt those same hunger munchies that nothing would satisfy. Maybe I need to keep better track of these episodes? I wonder if they have anything to do with hitting a lower than usual weight, like the body sending signals to eat, eat, eat! Well, that's the ol' set point theory which, of course, we definitely accepted as the reason why we could not get the excess weight off BEFORE we got it off. But I am sure that the body does have its limits. Starvation mode or a modest form of it, I'm sure, is working to keep the body working correctly and nourished right. I do know (I wrote to Lesanne) that I am not noticeably hungry but just snacking. Are those the signals that I really do need those snacks? They are better snacks than years past. Hmmmmm, not sure what to tell you on this one. I do snack, usually (but not always, I'm not a saint) healthier options - but it definitely is nowhere near the amount that I was snacking on last year. When I hit those constant snacking phases, I am definitely noticeably hungry ... to myself and everyone else. My stomach is grumbling loudly, sometimes a little lightheaded or just not feeling quite right. Then there are the times when I am just bored and eating seems to be the thing to do. THAT'S what I need to get control of ... as I sit here in front of my computer, definitely not hungry, yet there is a bowl of meringues sitting right in front of me. I may go dump them back into the container. Ok, here's something else I was thinking about today ... and I'm probably way off base, but in my head it somewhat makes some sense. Regarding the amount of activity points earned, and eaten. I understand that 100 calories expended = 1 activity point, and this made sense to me as I was losing weight. Ok, so what if roughly 50 calories = 1 point , if we ate all AP's we earned, we could still lose weight. I figured ww had us working in somewhat of a deficit mode, which really does make sense. BUT ... since we are trying to maintain ... by still working with those same numbers, are we somewhat doing ourselves in by not eating enough and then ending up going on a rampage a day or so later? Did I convey my thoughts well enough for anyone to understand? I guess this came into play today when I was thinking about the Wendy's frosty I had splurged on last week. Roughly 13 points for a large one (I really splurged!) ... 600 or close to it calories. Normally I think that it would take about 4 or 5 days to earn enough activity points to work it off. Today for some reason my brain kicked into calorie mode instead ... which told me that no, it really is only 2 workout sessions on my treadmill. So if I've been working my tail off everyday, and only eating what ww says I've earned ... could that explain those hungry days? And explain why my weight didn't skyrocket as I had anticipated it would when I did hit that feeding frenzy? I'm confused again. G Joyce |
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 01:40:11 -0600, Joyce wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:09:51 -0800, Fred wrote: You may be right. Too little main course might lead to even more snacking. The body may just want to hold at this weight. And maybe I just need to cater to it. A WW leader who shall remain nameless has suggested that my weekend's probably need more food. After all I am not still burning off the self-storage points that use to gather around my waist. I have a feeling you may be finding or accepting the same thing that I have ... we're just where our bodies want or need to be. Up/down a few pounds, it all balances out - but no dramatic drops that seem to stay in place permanently. I think Lesanne hit the nail on the head in a prior post when she said that if we are still losing weight easily, then we aren't *there* yet. I'm thinking, my friend, we are there ... whether we like it or not. I think you are right - I'm doing a good job of just wobbling in place - like riding a bicycle - a bit left and bit right and mostly straight ahead. A bit up, a bit down and mostly right on MAINTENANCE. Which is as it should be when you are where you belong. Yup, I think it is finally registering with me that seesawing a bit is just going to be a fact of life. Down again today, back to where I was last week. Then I killed off the mudslides tonite - so probably back up tomorrow. G I Well, since I read down below, I think you needed the mudslide to clear up the activity points issue (g) Other than the fact that I will not wi officially if I'm too late on Weds, I think this might be another slightly up week - so says the scale this morning. I need a down week again! Oh, still under goal. I may experiment a bit. I think the snacking was better last night - that's two nights after the weekend. And I recall it was similar last week. Or is it just that today is WI and my mind accepts LESS. For the most part my snacking has been pretty well under control, with exception to last week. G Don't know what got into me or why. The last few days I haven't felt those same hunger munchies that nothing would satisfy. Maybe I need to keep better track of these episodes? I wonder if they have anything to do with hitting a lower than usual weight, like the body sending signals to eat, eat, eat! Well, that's the ol' set point theory which, of course, we definitely accepted as the reason why we could not get the excess weight off BEFORE we got it off. But I am sure that the body does have its limits. Starvation mode or a modest form of it, I'm sure, is working to keep the body working correctly and nourished right. I do know (I wrote to Lesanne) that I am not noticeably hungry but just snacking. Are those the signals that I really do need those snacks? They are better snacks than years past. Hmmmmm, not sure what to tell you on this one. I do snack, usually (but not always, I'm not a saint) healthier options - but it definitely is nowhere near the amount that I was snacking on last year. When I hit those constant snacking phases, I am definitely noticeably hungry ... to myself and everyone else. My stomach is grumbling loudly, sometimes a little lightheaded or just not feeling quite right. Then there are the times when I am just bored and eating seems to be the thing to do. THAT'S what I need to get control of ... as I sit here in front of my computer, definitely not hungry, yet there is a bowl of meringues sitting right in front of me. I may go dump them back into the container. Yesterday it was Meringues, mango and on the bike ride, that breakfast cookie. too much stuff. Ok, here's something else I was thinking about today ... and I'm probably way off base, but in my head it somewhat makes some sense. Regarding the amount of activity points earned, and eaten. I understand that 100 calories expended = 1 activity point, and this made sense to me as I was losing weight. Ok, so what if roughly 50 calories = 1 point , if we ate all AP's we earned, we could still lose weight. I figured ww had us working in somewhat of a deficit mode, which really does make sense. BUT ... since we are trying to maintain ... by still working with those same numbers, are we somewhat doing ourselves in by not eating enough and then ending up going on a rampage a day or so later? Did I convey my thoughts well enough for anyone to understand? I guess this came into play today when I was thinking about the Wendy's frosty I had splurged on last week. Roughly 13 points for a large one (I really splurged!) ... 600 or close to it calories. Normally I think that it would take about 4 or 5 days to earn enough activity points to work it off. Today for some reason my brain kicked into calorie mode instead ... which told me that no, it really is only 2 workout sessions on my treadmill. So if I've been working my tail off everyday, and only eating what ww says I've earned ... could that explain those hungry days? And explain why my weight didn't skyrocket as I had anticipated it would when I did hit that feeding frenzy? Interesting. I was never quite clear on converting points to calories and activity points/exercise is even more or maybe less clear but you folks with TOYS that calculate calories burned might have a better handle on things. So you think WW did not quite tell us the truth? (G) That could explain why I lost so well during the program - I was getting in the main 15-30 activity points on a weekend a some more during the week. And I was better at limiting the snacking back then - driven to succeed. Or maybe since I had my own FAT points to burn, I did not need or desire the extra points I am now consuming. I'm confused again. G Same here. Joyce |
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