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camilla wrote in message . ..
Hello. My husband and I are doing the LC diet and doing pretty good
so far. My dilema is... my daughter just turned 8. She is about
30 pounds or maybe 40 over weight. My hubby and I decided to have our
daughter go LC too. I am a little nervous about it and I know I am
unable to talk to the family doctor because he is ANTI low carb. UGH
We are making her take her vitamins and she loves the cheeses and
broccoli and cauliflower and of course the meat but I am a little
worried. Any advice?

Be sure she gets some whole grains, and perhaps some of the highly
nutritious vegetables and fruits that aren't low-carb friendly (yams,
for example), along with the low-carb fare the rest of the family is
eating.

If you have to discuss it with your family doctor, I would just say
"We're cutting out processed foods, sugar, and flour, and we thought
that would be a good idea for [daughter] as well."

If your daughter is significantly overweight, the most important thing
you can do for her is help her to find an exercise program she enjoys
and make sure she sticks to it. Often, overweight kids are shy about
exercising, which just makes the problem worse.

Good luck!

T.

"marengo" wrote in message ...
Carolynne Rogers wrote:
||
| Low carb for a child is ridiculous. Children need carbs and to
| restrict her diet to an adult style low carb diet would be akin to
| child abuse. | Carolynne


Bull****.

Pumping sugar, french fries, happy meals, baked poatoes, candy, cookies,cake
and potato chips into an already obese child IS child abuse. When that
child is an adult and able to think responsibly he/she will resent his/her
parents tremendously for feeding him/her this crap. Children absolutely do
not need a bunch of high-carb food; you made this up.

I would give anything if my parents had brought me up to eat without all the
starchy and sugary foods. Maybe I wouldnt't be having to deal now with high
blood pressure, diabetic and high cholesterol/triglyceride issues -- not to
mention dieting to lose weight. All things that I am now controlling by not
eating the carby foods.

What in the world happened to responsible parenting? Why do so many parents
today think that if they don't let their children do/eat whatever they want
that it is somehow abusive? This is a sick way of thinking and will lead to
an undisciplined, spoiled, unhealthy next generation.

IMO of course.

Hot Damn Peter!
Ya feeling feisty today!
Well said.... Now get off your soap box! Grin
Laureen

"marengo" wrote in message ...
Carolynne Rogers wrote:
||
| Low carb for a child is ridiculous. Children need carbs and to
| restrict her diet to an adult style low carb diet would be akin to
| child abuse. | Carolynne


Bull****.

Pumping sugar, french fries, happy meals, baked poatoes, candy, cookies,cake
and potato chips into an already obese child IS child abuse. When that
child is an adult and able to think responsibly he/she will resent his/her
parents tremendously for feeding him/her this crap. Children absolutely do
not need a bunch of high-carb food; you made this up.

I would give anything if my parents had brought me up to eat without all the
starchy and sugary foods. Maybe I wouldnt't be having to deal now with high
blood pressure, diabetic and high cholesterol/triglyceride issues -- not to
mention dieting to lose weight. All things that I am now controlling by not
eating the carby foods.

What in the world happened to responsible parenting? Why do so many parents
today think that if they don't let their children do/eat whatever they want
that it is somehow abusive? This is a sick way of thinking and will lead to
an undisciplined, spoiled, unhealthy next generation.

IMO of course.
Repeat post!
Hot Damn Peter!
Ya feeling feisty today?(repunctuation)
Well said.... Now get off your soap box! Grin
Laureen

In article , says...
My 11 year old daughter is overweight too.. she is getting into lowcarb only
we call it *eating healthy*. Since I am able to eat whole grains.. some
anyway.. we stick to those.. she will pick a LC tortilla wrap instead of
bread.. she loves spinach salads and lean meats.. talk to her about it and
take her shopping with you letting her get to know about nutrition labels
and what is *healthy* and what isn't. I have never used the word *diet* or
*overweight* with my daughter but I know she isn't stupid and knows why we
do this.. She also has become very critical of school lunches and looks very

Wow, it sounds like you're daughter is really paying attention and LEARNING --
that's GREAT! I wish low-carb had been more acceptable/more widely known back in
the 80s and early 90s when my niece was growing up. She's always had a problem
with her weight, and her father and stepmother made it HORRIBLE for her. It
didn't help that she is built BIG like her bear of a father (who is no
lightweight, himself). For a period of time while she was living with her
father, her stepmother forced her to get on the scale EVERY DAY and never let up
harping on her for a MOMENT. She made her life a living HELL and her self-esteem
was in the toilet! She's almost 23 now and could stand to lose 30-40 lbs. I'm
hoping that she'll be inspired by my own success with low-carb. I know she's
started going to the gym with my sister, so that's a good start!

--
Saffire
205/152/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

camilla wrote:
Hello. My husband and I are doing the LC diet and doing pretty good
so far. My dilema is... my daughter just turned 8. She is about
30 pounds or maybe 40 over weight. My hubby and I decided to have our
daughter go LC too.

An associate of Dr. Atkins, Dr. Fred Pescatore, has written a very
good book on low-carbing for children. It's called:
"Feed Your Kids Well."
Available through Amazon.com.

The CAD authors have also written:
Carbohydrate-Addicted Kids : Help Your Child or Teen Break Free of
Junk Food and Sugar Cravings-For Life!
by Rachael F. Heller, Richard Ferdinand Heller

--
Debbie

Susan wrote:

Oh, come on. Can you allow for familial obesity, or just plain
ignorance of how to control weight for one's particular metabolic
status?

My son was skinny as a rail all through his childhood, and then hit
adolescence and began to gain weight, so that by age 12 he was about 20
pounds overweight, and by age 16 about 50 pounds overweight. I didn't feel
him any differently than I had when he was a skinny age 10, and if anything
he was much *more* active during his teen years than he was as a little kid,
very into hiking and canoeing and camping. And he didn't even eat that much.
Everyone told me about raising boys, and how they ate you out of house and
home but remained skinny as rails.

Yet I wound up with the son who didn't eat much at all, and got fat. Go
figure. Anyway, he and I first started LC together when he was 18, and he
lost all the extra weight and has kept it off for 7 years now.
--
Debbie

WOW Thank you all for the repliees. I am not real sure how I can
possibly respond to all the posts.
I feeel like I should have given a little more information. My
daughter is 4'6 and she weighs 101 pounds. Maybe she is more
overweight than I said before. Maybe less. I only guessed on how
much. She is nt as active as she needs to be. We are working on
that. She just learned (July 4) to ride her bike without the training
wheels! We are now walking the dogs on a leash instead of
letting them out the back door to run in the yard. We spend more time
in the pool SWIMMING instead of floating on floatation devices. We
really are trying!
Why is my daughter so fat? Hhhmmm only one answer to that. Wrong
food choices such as buffalo chicken wings, cheeseburgers, shrimp,
pasta, and her whole milk, These are all her favorites. She does
over eat, and has been inactive for to long. Do I feel guilty? Of
course! Do I feel like a bad mom? NO! I love my children and I try
hard to be a great mom.
Thanks again for all the information and your thoughts and advice.
Some replies were wonderful and helpful and others were a little harsh
but I appreciate them all the same. This was a difficult decision for
us to make but our daughter is happy about it and I am thrilled about
that.

Thank you so much for your response. I truly appreciate it! I will
look into the book you suggested. Thanks for sharing your story with
me.


There is nothing inherently wrong in feeding your child on a good
mixture of proteins, vegetables, some nuts (assuming she's not
allergic to them) and so on. I'm *wary* of feeding children
artificial sweeteners (I'd prefer to simply wean children off needing
sweetened foods at all) as there are no studies on how safe they are
for developing systems.

My daughters were 2 and 3 years old when I began my LC journey. I
never pushed LC at them, but they (as children do) tended to follow my
lead in choosing foods and eat a much lower carb range than most
children their ages (they are now 8 and 9). They are fit and healthy,
tall for their ages (their Daddy is 6'8" tall so I guess that was to
be expected) and appropriate weights for their heights. They are both
keen on karate and swimming and except for some asthma (runs in the
family, and one of them was 7+ weeks premature which adds to the risk)
they have no health problems at all. In fact, they tend to shake off
childhood illnesses and infections somewhat faster than most of their
classmates!

You may find Dr Fred Pescatore's book "Feed Your Kids Well : How to
Help Your Child Lose Weight and Get Healthy" (which is available at
amazon.com) to be a helpful resource for you. Dr Pescatore has worked
with Dr Atkins and his book just might help you to put your mind at
rest.

Aramanth

Thanks for responing, I am researching for a new doctor through family
and friends and I requested a referral from my insurance company.

You might want to read "Sugarbusters for Kids". And find a new pediatrician.
This one obviously doesn't have your daughter's best interests at heart.
Otherwise he would have no problem with her giving up sugar, flour and starch.

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 5'7" 265/188/140
& hubby- 6' 310/199/180
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lcer09/my_photos

I wrote another message earlier, a general one but it answers most of
your questions to me. I am not real sure how to post it to you. I
will try copying and pasting it here. Hopefully that will not be a
big NO NO but if it is I am sure people will let me know!

Thanks so much for responding. A copy of my other message:

WOW Thank you all for the repliees. I am not real sure how I can
possibly respond to all the posts.
I feeel like I should have given a little more information. My
daughter is 4'6 and she weighs 101 pounds. Maybe she is more
overweight than I said before. Maybe less. I only guessed on how
much. She is nt as active as she needs to be. We are working on
that. She just learned (July 4) to ride her bike without the training
wheels! We are now walking the dogs on a leash instead of
letting them out the back door to run in the yard. We spend more time
in the pool SWIMMING instead of floating on floatation devices. We
really are trying!
Why is my daughter so fat? Hhhmmm only one answer to that. Wrong
food choices such as buffalo chicken wings, cheeseburgers, shrimp,
pasta, and her whole milk, These are all her favorites. She does
over eat, and has been inactive for to long. Do I feel guilty? Of
course! Do I feel like a bad mom? NO! I love my children and I try
hard to be a great mom.
Thanks again for all the information and your thoughts and advice.
Some replies were wonderful and helpful and others were a little harsh
but I appreciate them all the same. This was a difficult decision for
us to make but our daughter is happy about it and I am thrilled about
that.



1. Just how much is your daughter exercising? She should exercise a lot.

2. Is your daughter a junk food/ice cream/pie addict? If so, taking
her off that, would be a good thing.

Try to cover the basic stuff first. Possibly, your daughter could do
well by addressing issues 1 and 2, without the need for "induction"
etc. Try more conservative things first. Maybe they will help.

An 8 year old who is 40 lbs overweight, that is a very overweight
child. Well on the way to have a terrible life. So, I think, doing
"whatever it takes", in terms of your personal time and effort, is
quite warranted. Even if, say, you have to spend 2 hours a day
exercising and playing with her.


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