"They're putting stuff in our food ..."

"MusicGroove2000" wrote in message

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|| I've heard alleged by others: namely, that US food growers and
|| manufacturers are adding (knowingly, I assume) substances in their
|| products which themselves may largely account for the upsurge in
|| serious obesity in the USA.

Oh, please!

My pet peeve nowadays is that so many people want to find a third party to
blame for their bad habits, poor life choices and lack of self control.
Blame cancer on the cigarette manufacturers, not on the smokers. Blame
MacDonalds for the scalding suffered from driving with hot coffee balanced
between their legs. Blame obesity on the food manufacturers, not on the
eater.

There is no grand conspiracy to make you addicted to food; this is a
ridicuous excuse to justify lack of self-control and to shift the onus away
from the eater where it squarely belongs.

--
Peter
270/219/180
website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo

"Bunky42" wrote in message
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|||| High fructose corn syrup.
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||| That was also my thought.
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|| Crap! you did so well on your last post too. Keep exercising

Your inane, off-topic remarks are far more annoing than JC's posts could
be.

I'm killfiling you because in the past 20 posts of yours that I have read,
you have not contributed a single positive thought to the group. You are
obviously obsessed with stalking JC, when you could simply ignore him as I
am going to do you from this point on. Your tiresome and predicable remarks
are far more annoying than those of JC to which you are replying.

--
Peter
270/219/180
website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo

marengo wrote:

"MusicGroove2000" wrote in message

snip
|| I've heard alleged by others: namely, that US food growers and
|| manufacturers are adding (knowingly, I assume) substances in their
|| products which themselves may largely account for the upsurge in
|| serious obesity in the USA.

Oh, please!

My pet peeve nowadays is that so many people want to find a third party to
blame for their bad habits, poor life choices and lack of self control.
Blame cancer on the cigarette manufacturers, not on the smokers. Blame
MacDonalds for the scalding suffered from driving with hot coffee balanced
between their legs. Blame obesity on the food manufacturers, not on the
eater.

There is no grand conspiracy to make you addicted to food; this is a
ridicuous excuse to justify lack of self-control and to shift the onus away
from the eater where it squarely belongs.

ok, now i want you all to jump on Peter's **** the way you jumped on
mine for suggesting THE EXACT SAME GODDAMN THING.

sheesh.

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" wrote in message
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marengo wrote:

"MusicGroove2000" wrote in message

snip
|| I've heard alleged by others: namely, that US food growers and
|| manufacturers are adding (knowingly, I assume) substances in their
|| products which themselves may largely account for the upsurge in
|| serious obesity in the USA.

Oh, please!

My pet peeve nowadays is that so many people want to find a third party
to
blame for their bad habits, poor life choices and lack of self control.
Blame cancer on the cigarette manufacturers, not on the smokers. Blame
MacDonalds for the scalding suffered from driving with hot coffee
balanced
between their legs. Blame obesity on the food manufacturers, not on the
eater.

There is no grand conspiracy to make you addicted to food; this is a
ridicuous excuse to justify lack of self-control and to shift the onus
away
from the eater where it squarely belongs.

ok, now i want you all to jump on Peter's **** the way you jumped on
mine for suggesting THE EXACT SAME GODDAMN THING.

sheesh.

Peter gets a pass because he knows how and when to use upper case letters.

Let that be a lesson to you.

"MusicGroove2000" wrote in message
that US food growers and manufacturers are adding
(knowingly, I assume) substances in their products which themselves may
largely
account for the upsurge in serious obesity in the USA. Unfortunately, in
the
infomercial Trudeau doesn't specify what these substances are, but they're
supposedly enough to make those who consume foods which contain them
become
"addicted" to the foods.
Is anyone here familiar with this allegation? Believe it? If so, what ARE
these substances which supposedly are making US food be avoided by people
in
foreign countries? Growth hormones? Chemicals? What?

I believe something similar to that. I'm very unhappy with how many foods
have sugar, or worse, high fructose corn syrup, added to them that don't
even need it. It desensitizes American taste buds so that normal, fresh
produce tastes bland, and as a result, Americans eat less produce even
though we have the best stuff. Why on earth would they add sugar to canned
peas, canned corn, canned soups, etc.?
There is also partially-hydrogenated oils, which are added to almost
everything in a package, and most butter substitutes. I've read some scary
studies about how, until that was added to foods, Type II diabetes was rare
instead of widespread.
Then there are the hormones they give to the animals in increasing
quantities to make them mature faster, and guess what? Our kids mature
faster physically now. And eating the hormone-infused meats gives you a
little bit of that hormone, which has a big side effect of increasing
appetite.
Then there is MSG (monosodium glutamate) which seems to be an absolutely
unnecessary additive, but does make food more addicting. That is, if you
are not one of the unfortunate people who are allergic to MSG and get
migraines from it.

--
Spring
LC since 1/1/04
260/200/170

"Before" & "current" pics at link below:
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spr...=/55b8&.src=ph

JC Der Koenig wrote:

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" wrote in message
. ..
marengo wrote:

"MusicGroove2000" wrote in message

snip
|| I've heard alleged by others: namely, that US food growers and
|| manufacturers are adding (knowingly, I assume) substances in their
|| products which themselves may largely account for the upsurge in
|| serious obesity in the USA.

Oh, please!

My pet peeve nowadays is that so many people want to find a third party
to blame for their bad habits, poor life choices and lack of self
control. Blame cancer on the cigarette manufacturers, not on the
smokers. Blame MacDonalds for the scalding suffered from driving with
hot coffee balanced between their legs. Blame obesity on the food
manufacturers, not on the eater.

There is no grand conspiracy to make you addicted to food; this is a
ridicuous excuse to justify lack of self-control and to shift the onus
away
from the eater where it squarely belongs.

ok, now i want you all to jump on Peter's **** the way you jumped on
mine for suggesting THE EXACT SAME GODDAMN THING.

sheesh.

Peter gets a pass because he knows how and when to use upper case letters.

i know how and when to use upper case letters.

Let that be a lesson to you.

**** that ****!

In article Ar7Bd.3967$Tf5.3913@lakeread03, "marengo" marengo@ cox.net
wrote:

"MusicGroove2000" wrote in message

snip
|| I've heard alleged by others: namely, that US food growers and
|| manufacturers are adding (knowingly, I assume) substances in their
|| products which themselves may largely account for the upsurge in
|| serious obesity in the USA.

Oh, please!

My pet peeve nowadays is that so many people want to find a third party to
blame for their bad habits, poor life choices and lack of self control.
Blame cancer on the cigarette manufacturers, not on the smokers. Blame
MacDonalds for the scalding suffered from driving with hot coffee balanced
between their legs. Blame obesity on the food manufacturers, not on the
eater.

There is no grand conspiracy to make you addicted to food; this is a
ridicuous excuse to justify lack of self-control and to shift the onus away
from the eater where it squarely belongs.


Hmm. I don't think there is a grand conspiracy. I think there are a lot
of little conspiracies, and it's nothing new. Coca-Cola used to contain
cocaine, remember?

Food manufacturers want to sell food, so they do what they can to make it
taste better, like adding sugar, salt, and fat. I think sugar (and its
cousins, like HFC) is especially addictive in highly-concentrated
quantities. Just look at little kids who drink nothing but fruit juice all
day. They get wired, they get a high from it, then they crash. And if the
juice is taken away, they go through withdrawals. If you could show me
that the same thing happens with artificially sweetened drinks, like that
Fruit 2-0 stuff, then I might change my mind about sugary fruit drinks
being addictive.

That being said, we're all grown-ups, and we have to make our own
decisions. Recognizing that some foods are addictive isn't an excuse any
more than recognizing that some drugs are addictive. If anything, it
should be a strong motivation to avoid those substances.

I recently quit smoking. I still get urges to smoke sometimes, and in the
first week they were quite strong urges. These cravings were not caused by
a lack of self-control. They were caused by withdrawals from an addictive
substance, in this case nicotine. My choice lay in what to DO about the
cravings.

If I didn't know that cigarettes were addictive (as many people didn't when
cigarettes were first introduced) I would probably still be smoking, as I
wouldn't recognize my cravings as coming from a physical addiction. The
feeling of "I want a cigarette" would be in the same category as "I want to
go to a movie," a want that I would consider to be perfectly within my
control. Once you know that a want is NOT coming entirely from your own
volition, that this want is being caused by an addiction, it gets kind of
scary. It's like the addiction is an outside, alien thing with power over
you, and when you realize it you want it _gone_.

That's why I think identifying certain foods as addictive is beneficial.
You can mentally seperate the addiction from your "self" and when you crave
junk food you can say "I don't really want that, it's the addiction
talking."

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" wrote in message
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marengo wrote:

"MusicGroove2000" wrote in message

snip
|| I've heard alleged by others: namely, that US food growers and
|| manufacturers are adding (knowingly, I assume) substances in their
|| products which themselves may largely account for the upsurge in
|| serious obesity in the USA.

Oh, please!

My pet peeve nowadays is that so many people want to find a third party
to
blame for their bad habits, poor life choices and lack of self control.
Blame cancer on the cigarette manufacturers, not on the smokers. Blame
MacDonalds for the scalding suffered from driving with hot coffee
balanced
between their legs. Blame obesity on the food manufacturers, not on
the
eater.

There is no grand conspiracy to make you addicted to food; this is a
ridicuous excuse to justify lack of self-control and to shift the onus
away
from the eater where it squarely belongs.

ok, now i want you all to jump on Peter's **** the way you jumped on
mine for suggesting THE EXACT SAME GODDAMN THING.

sheesh.

I thought you enjoyed people jumping all on your ****.

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" wrote in message
...

i know how and when to use upper case letters.


Sure you do.

JC Der Koenig wrote:
"The Queen of Cans and Jars" wrote in message
...

i know how and when to use upper case letters.



Sure you do.


You just can't write more than ten words in a post.