PING JC: TKD?

I didn't mean more than one at onceG But the thought of getting
to eat a lovely bagel every other day is just wonderful!

This is messed up.



Lynne A




How so?


Do you have a need for a TKD? Don't use the fact that you're lifting as
any
automatic excuse to start eating bagels and other starchy foods. People
who
do 2 lb dumbbell curls generally don't need any kind of extra carbs.


Lynne A




Geeez, Roger, just cause I enjoy the idea of a bagel doesn't mean I'm
looking for excuses-if I was really dying for a bagel, I'd just go ahead and
eat the damned thing! Do I have a need for a TKD? No idea! But the only
way I'm gonna know what works best for me, to achieve the results I want, is
to try the different variations, ya know? BTW, I AM a wuss these days, but
it's 10 lb curls, not 2-I ain't THAT wussy. I'm working my ass off to reach
a reasonable level of strength as quickly as possible, and if diet can help
that, I'm going to try it. My current working routine is-every other day,
lifting for an hour in the morning, yoga in the evening. On alternating
days, I do Pilates 2x a day. Except on the weekends, when I only lift and
do one Pilates session. It's a fair amount of work for someone who's been
sedentary for the past 3 years! And if diet might make it more productive,
hey, I'm there!

Lynne A

"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
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"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
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Do you have a need for a TKD? Don't use the fact that you're lifting as
any
automatic excuse to start eating bagels and other starchy foods. People
who
do 2 lb dumbbell curls generally don't need any kind of extra carbs.


On the other hand, if controlled properly, a CKD can be useful in
progressing down the path towards lower bodyfat, even if one is not
lifting
relatively intensely nor for relatively extended sessions.



Thanks JC! I'm not looking for an excuse to pig out, just wanna try some
different approaches and see what works for me.

Lynne A

"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
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Lynne A wrote:
Thanks so much for the input, Mark! This is definitely an
experiment, I want to see what difference, if any, the TKD makes.
I'm definitely not lifting heavy yet, but it's heavy for meLOL I
am increasing weight weekly though. I don't care for the protein
bars, but whole grains are good, I can definitely go there. As far
as DOMS, it's my life right nowG Getting easier day by day,
though, as is the Pilates I do on my off days.

What kind of routine are you doing? What movements, number of sets, reps?


3x10 on all

Powerlifting Squats
Dumbell curls
deadlifts
Barbell upright rows
dumbell plie squats
bench press
crunches

As soon as I can do 3x10 w/o it being to failure, I add weight. As I said
in another post, I am also doing Pilates on my off days, and yoga in the
evening on my lifting days. Any other info you need? I will be adding more
to the routine as soon as my bench gets here, it's on order ATM, and I'm
using an old coffee table, as per Stumptious until it gets here.

Lynne A

"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
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Why don't you go to the horse's mouth on this? Buy Lyle's keto book.

www.bodyrecomposition.com
(work your way to the products page)

Get the full scoup, rather than going off half-cocked....


It's on the list, Roger, definitely. My financial resources are limited for
another two weeks, though, so it will have to wait till then. I do agree
about the horse's mouth, though, and will be purchasing ASAP.

Lynne A

"RRzVRR" wrote in message
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I've used TKD off and on for many years and would suggest that
unless you're really lifting with intensity you shouldn't worry
too much about doing something like TKD or CKD. If you're just
starting to lift with some intensity and you can quanitify that
you're not lifitng well because of being depleted, I'd suggest
that you consider TKD over CKD at first. CKD takes a bit more
control and effort to do and see results.

I'd also suggest that you carb-up mostly after you train. The
idea of TKD is to replinish for the next workout. Plus getting
the increased raised insulin level after a workout helps with
recovery.

Thanks for the input, Rudy! I don't know if I am not lifting as well as I
could, that's the main reason for this experiment-to see if either diet
makes a difference in performance. TKD definitely sounds like it's going to
be easier for me to implement, so that's why I planned to start there.

I thought the deal was that TKD was to replenish stores before the current
workout, now I'm confused!LOL Sounds like more experimenting yet, to see if
before or after works better for me. Ahh well, I've got all the time in the
world to figure it out, it's not like I'm trying to get ready to
competeLMAO

Lynne A



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"Mark McArthey" wrote in message
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"Lynne A" wrote in message
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As soon as I can do 3x10 w/o it being to failure, I add weight. As I
said
in another post, I am also doing Pilates on my off days, and yoga in the
evening on my lifting days. Any other info you need? I will be adding
more
to the routine as soon as my bench gets here, it's on order ATM, and I'm
using an old coffee table, as per Stumptious until it gets here.

Go Krista!

Mark



Yeah, she absolutely ROCKS!

Lynne A

"Lynne A" wrote in message
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As soon as I can do 3x10 w/o it being to failure, I add weight. As I said
in another post, I am also doing Pilates on my off days, and yoga in the
evening on my lifting days. Any other info you need? I will be adding
more
to the routine as soon as my bench gets here, it's on order ATM, and I'm
using an old coffee table, as per Stumptious until it gets here.

Go Krista!

Mark

"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
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For carb ups on a TKD I've used white bread (sometimes with ham or turkey,
sometimes with rasberry jam, and sometimes with powdered sugar and
cinnamon), and I've also used breakfast cereal (I like Honey Smacks or
Corn
Pops) with skim milk. These seem to have a fairly fast effect (as you can
see, I'm not too worried about a little bit of fructose, and I like to
have
a little protein added sometimes also). I would stay away from anything
with whole grains for what should be obvious reasons. That being said, I
really prefer the CKD over the TKD. I get a lot more mileage out of
carbing
up for a whole day once a week, than I do with the little bits and pieces.
This may be because of the way I train and/or the way I follow my diet, I
couldn't really say. It just seems that with a TKD, I never really get
the
full benefit of being carbed up, and I also never get to the point of
being
completed depleted. In your shoes, I would try them both out for a while
and
see how they fit.

--

Thanks for all the information, JC! Bread w/topping I could manage, I'm not
sure I could deal with such sweet cereal anymore, though. Breads are still
a pleasure, but the sweet stuff, blech! I'll have to look around, maybe I
can find something with less sugar, but a total count that's in the right
range.

I did recall that you were doing CKD, but to be honest, I found the
information a bit more confusing! Would you be willing to show a sample
week's menu when you have time? I do intend to try both and see if one or
the other works better for me-how long do you suggest I try them to really
get a good feel for the results?

Lynne A

Lynne A wrote:
"RRzVRR" wrote in message
hlink.net...


I've used TKD off and on for many years and would suggest that
unless you're really lifting with intensity you shouldn't worry
too much about doing something like TKD or CKD. If you're just
starting to lift with some intensity and you can quanitify that
you're not lifitng well because of being depleted, I'd suggest
that you consider TKD over CKD at first. CKD takes a bit more
control and effort to do and see results.

I'd also suggest that you carb-up mostly after you train. The
idea of TKD is to replinish for the next workout. Plus getting
the increased raised insulin level after a workout helps with
recovery.

Thanks for the input, Rudy! I don't know if I am not lifting as well
as I could, that's the main reason for this experiment-to see if
either diet makes a difference in performance. TKD definitely sounds
like it's going to be easier for me to implement, so that's why I
planned to start there.

I thought the deal was that TKD was to replenish stores before the
current workout, now I'm confused!LOL Sounds like more experimenting
yet, to see if before or after works better for me. Ahh well, I've
got all the time in the world to figure it out, it's not like I'm
trying to get ready to competeLMAO

Lynne A



Lynne - when you get to the point where you need a TKD or a CKD, you'll know
it quickly. Your body will let you know and there'll be little guessing.

The TKD after does replenish..and gets you ready for the next session.

"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
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Lynne - when you get to the point where you need a TKD or a CKD, you'll
know
it quickly. Your body will let you know and there'll be little guessing.

The TKD after does replenish..and gets you ready for the next session.



Fair enough Roger-muscle fatigue, total exhaustion at the end of the
workout? I really don't know what to look for since I'm new to lifting and
have been doing low carb long term-if I had lifted BEFORE low carb, then I
would have something to compare against, you know? Does that make ANY sense
at all?LOL

Hmm, after, huh? I guess I'll have to make myself, I'm not usually
interested in food after my workouts. Actually, I'm not very interested in
food at all lately-except for artichokesLOL Oh well, beats only wanting
candy bars.

Lynne A