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  #511  
Old October 9th, 2003, 10:31 PM
The Queen of Cans and Jars
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Default Regardless /Irregardless ...........

Lurga the Smoldatroon wrote:

Never mind... just KF me and make your reading more comfortable.
Wouldn't want to "Irritate" your little mind.


coming as it does from someone who killfiles people for the egregious
crime of having opinions which differ from his, i find this wildly
amusing.

  #512  
Old October 10th, 2003, 01:33 AM
Chris Taylor Jr
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Default grammar, etc.

I kind of figured that but never bothered to actually look it up.

I do not use kill files. do not believe in them or like them. (no problem
with others using them off course)

I tend to shy away from "filters" since they are never 100% and can miss or
remove things I do want.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

"Carmen " wrote in message
...

Hi Chris Taylor Jr,
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 01:21:35 GMT, you held up the following for
inspection:

Plonk (still have not looked up what that means but this seems to be
the appropiate time that people deem to use it so..)


"Plonk" means you have put the poster in your killfile and can no longer
see their posts. It also means the conversation has ended. :-)

Take care,
Carmen



  #513  
Old October 10th, 2003, 01:34 AM
Chris Taylor Jr
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Default grammar, etc.

I was simply returning the favor.

The previous poster made male sexist comment (you did read the whole thing
right ?)

so I made the reverse comment back to him or her.

tit for tat etc..

shows how circular such crap is.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

"Dawn Taylor" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:17:22 -0400, "Chris Taylor Jr"
announced in front of God and everybody:

Sorry for you. it is perfectly clear to me. your lacking intellectual
ability to read what is in front of you is something I can not fix no

matter
how well I do or do not write or type.

If women on average drive like I see them drive around me. Be very

afraid.

Women!


Wow -- self-deluded, semi-illiterate AND sexist.

You're a triple threat. Congratulations.

Dawn



  #514  
Old October 10th, 2003, 01:59 AM
revek
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Lurga the Smoldatroon,
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:19:05 GMT, you held up the following for
inspection:

"Duffy Pratt" wrote :

Has anyone here objected to using one space?


They are happy to call it a "rule" that is "what they were
taught", "professional", "neater" and "more readable". I call

that
an
objection.


People have objected to Mathilda's insistance that two spaces is
"wrong", and that one space is "right", as if matters of preference
are immutable rules handed down from on high that apply in every
situation.

People have also objected to her portrayal of anyone who disagrees
with her as unintelligent, incapable of learning, afraid, and
dinosaurs.

That is not the same as objecting to using one space, however you and
Mathilda would like to believe it to be.

revek


  #515  
Old October 10th, 2003, 02:01 AM
revek
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"The Queen of Cans and Jars" wrote in message
.. .
Lurga the Smoldatroon wrote:

Never mind... just KF me and make your reading more

comfortable.
Wouldn't want to "Irritate" your little mind.


coming as it does from someone who killfiles people for the

egregious
crime of having opinions which differ from his, i find this wildly
amusing.


He does have a talent.

revek


  #516  
Old October 10th, 2003, 08:23 AM
M.W. Smith
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Lurga the Smoldatroon wrote:

"Duffy Pratt" wrote :

Has anyone here objected to using one space?



They are happy to call it a "rule" that is "what they were taught",
"professional", "neater" and "more readable". I call that an objection.


I didn't object to using one space. There. I just did it. Twice, no, three
times. You said I object to using one space. I don't. I object to the
objection to using two spaces. It is not wrong to use two spaces. We of the
never never have proved it by now.

martin

  #517  
Old October 10th, 2003, 02:30 PM
The Queen of Cans and Jars
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revek wrote:

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" wrote:
Lurga the Smoldatroon wrote:

Never mind... just KF me and make your reading more comfortable.
Wouldn't want to "Irritate" your little mind.


coming as it does from someone who killfiles people for the egregious
crime of having opinions which differ from his, i find this wildly
amusing.


He does have a talent.


that and a nickel will get him a cup of coffee.
  #518  
Old October 10th, 2003, 09:19 PM
Mathilda Jane
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Duffy Pratt wrote in message news:x56hb.6608
It turns out I was hasty here, and what you say has some merit.


That's good. We're making progress.

The site
also has a few "rules" and other commands that are not rules and come

under
"notes." But I won't belabor the point and admit I was wrong as to this

one
site.

But I will also note that you are quick to trounce on this error. Not

only
that, but you have gleefully brought it up three times now that you have
discovered it. But at the same time, you have completely ignored the 14
sites that Carmen linked in support of two spaces being at least as
preferred as one space.


But none that say it's correct. Or even preferred over one, for that matter.

And you have also belittled the movie industry as
being somehow unworthy of having any standards.


I have yet to see any evidence that the movie industry even uses two spaces,
the only reference to that was M.W. Smith saying that they do. Do you
honestly expect me to believe someone without any proof?

So in search of my own proof, I did a search on Google and came up with the
following site:

http://www.windowatch.com/2000/octob...arella6_9.html

While I will give you that the article focuses mainly on manuscripts, the
author does touch on screen writing. He also says this:

"Because the body of the novel will be in a proportional font, you don't
need two spaces after a period, i.e., at the end of a sentence. With the
fixed-pitch Courier font, every letter, whether lower or upper case, used
the same amount of horizontal space and two spaces were needed after each
sentence to guide the eye, reinforcing the break between one sentence and
the next. Touch typists have long been in the habit of double-spacing after
a period. Time to break the habit. If you find it hard to snap out of it,
wait until you finish the manuscript, then do an EDIT/REPLACE, replacing two
spaces with one space. Yet another way to leverage the power of your
computer!"

Until I have better proof, the above source is what I will use.

Oh, and while we're on the subject, I also found this in my search:
http://www.st-thomasmore.org/School/...064338530.html

It's a 7th grade study guide for a 2003 typing class. Check out question
#36.

Mathilda


  #519  
Old October 10th, 2003, 09:23 PM
Mathilda Jane
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Bob Pastorio wrote in message
Hang on a second. It says "may" not should. The most I'm willing to
grant here is that some industries prefer one space while to others it
simply doesn't matter. Personal correspondence and casual writing is
not bound by any of those conventions.


From M-W.com
may
1 a archaic : have the ability to b : have permission to

The original quote was:

"You may use only one space after a period at the end of a sentence
because of software changes."


So in other words, you have the ability or permission to use only one space
after a period.

Mathilda


  #520  
Old October 10th, 2003, 09:29 PM
Mathilda Jane
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Duffy Pratt wrote in message news08hb.7390
I thought I might get the ball rolling by admitting that I was wrong.
That's why I said I would not belabor the point. On the one hand, you are
clearly right -- "may" does point to a degree of tolerance.


From M-W.com
may
1 a archaic : have the ability to b : have permission to

The original quote was:
"You may use only one space after a period at the end of a sentence
because of software changes."


So if we were to substitute with the dictionary definition of "may," the
sentence would say:
"You have the ability to or have the permission to use only one space after
a period at the end of a sentence..."

And by showing tolerance, it also tends to implie that the thing that you

may now do
because of software changes would be considered improper by many.
Furthermore, the suggestion appears in a "note" not in a "rule". Not
putting it in a rule, and making it permissive instead of mandatory, both
tend to show that there is a degree of flexibility here.


I have yet to see a rule that says two spaces is correct, too.

But, I did err in that I relied heavily on the bottom of the page, which
dealt more with spacing after "...", so I was happy to admit to some
hastyness. Perhaps I should have stuck with the part that Mathilda has

now
relied on three times, because it does imply that one or two spaces "may"

be
used.


The quote said, "may only." As in, "may not do anything else but this."

So, I admitted that I was wrong.


We're getting there...

Mathilda


 




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