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Old December 11th, 2003, 03:42 PM
Fred
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Default NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th

I think that I'm developing my way of life. It probably may be too
routine but it works. I have my meals down and while I do not measure
everything (fish, shrimp, chicken), I do measure beef and cheese (on
the rare blue cheese occasions) and lamb and nuts. Lunches are also
standards at this point. When I do go out to eat, I have gotten very
use to taking about half home (or on road trips, to the cooler). I
don't seem to have the same driven cravenings for potato chips on the
drives home from work and do not snack on cheese like I use to.

Desserts still have my name on them. Which explains the Costco
chocolate cake and now the fruit cake. But I am trying to limit those
indulgences to once a week.

Snacking on a lot of dried fruits but trying to limit them but
sometimes that dried mango takes over.

PORTION control has definitely been a prime driver. I use to eat a
ton, almost an entire package of 12 (dried) ozs of pasta as dinner.
Now I really don't do that since potatoes have built-in portion
control. And I do kasha and make sure I come close to a one cup
serving. But it does not have the same calling pasta did. I like
kasha a lot but it does not seem to demand to be overeaten. I really
have to do bulghur again, too. I have some but like the kasha.

Breakfasts are also not measured very often. I should probably get a
handle on a cup of whatever again, just for control.

We just have to remember that we have a problem and unlike alcohol (I
never did much) or cigarettes (never), food cannot simply be avoided.
So we need to keep HOPING and working on it. I do lose it like
Prairie with Miss Meringues but they are more kindly than losing it
with real ice cream or cheese. And I do force a late night pickle
down rather than more POINTS of any other kind.

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:49:08 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Yesterday we went out to lunch, which we frequently do when babysitting DGD,
since then the cafeteria she loves has to clean up the mess. My Ma loves
fried anything. So do I, but you know how often I eat that sort of thing
(same as any of us). We bought the lunch special plate of chicken fried
chicken breast. There is not any skin, but there is a nice crunchy fried
whatever all over it. I also got a vegetable plate, which has 3 veggies.
I got mac and cheese (guess who loves that) canned corn (ditto) and green
beans. Then when we got to table, I cut the chicken into 3 pieces, put
about 2 T of mac and cheese, 2 T of corn, all the green beans and a third of
the chicken on my plate. I really figured I would be up a pound this
morning, but still nice ole 157. I think this whole thing is about portion
control with the high calorie/fat/sugar items, and liberal servings of 0
point items for satiety and crunch (the chew factor) and this becomes not so
hard. Are you also finding maintenance not as difficult as it was at first?
I am! I hope that lasts!

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
That is well put. I have been UP there now twice. So I know what's
possible. But I also know I have a lot more tools as far as food
consumption. Now, attitude, mood, spirit, whatever might have more
power behind it then just the tools. So it will need constant
monitoring and vigilance.

I wish us all the best of luck and discipline.

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:32:12 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:


Gotta tell you, I don't understand what your sister said. Do you

think
she
meant that when you get to 155, you will want to weigh less than that?

Yes, that is what she meant. That each time I move the line down for
"safety" I might want to move it down just a bit further so that I
draw a new safety line and don't approach the OLD one - like 164, oh,
well, 160, hmm, 158..... 155, 154?. So maybe shooting for 155
should be just a rough idea and hovering now would be fine. Up a
pound down a pound. I know the rules. I occasionally break the rules
but not really as I quickly try reining it back in. Like purchasing a
Costco Fruitcake today (g) It is sliced and frozen save the one piece
I have already eaten. And I probably "chawed" half a bag of gummy
bears last night and these are not tiny bags.


Just this part, clipped the rest. I can see myself not ever being "done"
just from the terror of going the other way. I am going to set my "back

to
journalin" number at 160, and let it be. I too have not been journaling
this past week and I am at a new low. I think this just takes daily

weigh
ins, and a willingness to go back on program when the one sixes show, and
hanging around here to keep the focus. I really have a hard time

believing
this. I was somewhere yesterday and someone I did not know well said
something that caused me to say something about being fat They looked

at
me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh
I forgot. I'm not.




  #12  
Old December 11th, 2003, 03:44 PM
Fred
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Default NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th

Yes, I am waiting for the power failure - not really - that is one
aspect of being thinner - I am running colder. I probably should rev
up the metabolism by doing weights for the upper body.

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:51:03 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

Wow Fred! You're doing a wonderful job and that clothing allowance is
getting bigger, soon you'll be able to really bundle up when at meetings.
Congratulations!!

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Okay here we go:

I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

(that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6
pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2
pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake
on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she,
by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most
of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient
clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you
will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit
lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what
I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

(aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points
(gd&r)


Fred
219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002



  #13  
Old December 11th, 2003, 03:51 PM
Lesanne
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Default NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th

Maybe my pasta trick might work for you. Or tricks. I love pasta with some
things, like the chicken randazzo.

I weigh out TWO dry ounces of whole wheat pasta.

I overcook it just a tad (it nearly tastes like pasta this way)

I add chopped zucchini or tatuma squash to my sauce for volume on the plate.

Those three things knock the heck out of a very very satisfying very large
serving of pasta, which still rings my bell on some occations.

And yes. I take home half, or share a serving with Ma. And cherry tomatoes
and carrot sticks take up space on the plate so my chips servings are much
smaller and weighed. I love desserts too, but I go for a tiny something
sweet at least once a day, as opposed to larger and less frequent. I don't
do well with delayed gratification

"Fred" wrote in message
...
I think that I'm developing my way of life. It probably may be too
routine but it works. I have my meals down and while I do not measure
everything (fish, shrimp, chicken), I do measure beef and cheese (on
the rare blue cheese occasions) and lamb and nuts. Lunches are also
standards at this point. When I do go out to eat, I have gotten very
use to taking about half home (or on road trips, to the cooler). I
don't seem to have the same driven cravenings for potato chips on the
drives home from work and do not snack on cheese like I use to.

Desserts still have my name on them. Which explains the Costco
chocolate cake and now the fruit cake. But I am trying to limit those
indulgences to once a week.

Snacking on a lot of dried fruits but trying to limit them but
sometimes that dried mango takes over.

PORTION control has definitely been a prime driver. I use to eat a
ton, almost an entire package of 12 (dried) ozs of pasta as dinner.
Now I really don't do that since potatoes have built-in portion
control. And I do kasha and make sure I come close to a one cup
serving. But it does not have the same calling pasta did. I like
kasha a lot but it does not seem to demand to be overeaten. I really
have to do bulghur again, too. I have some but like the kasha.

Breakfasts are also not measured very often. I should probably get a
handle on a cup of whatever again, just for control.

We just have to remember that we have a problem and unlike alcohol (I
never did much) or cigarettes (never), food cannot simply be avoided.
So we need to keep HOPING and working on it. I do lose it like
Prairie with Miss Meringues but they are more kindly than losing it
with real ice cream or cheese. And I do force a late night pickle
down rather than more POINTS of any other kind.

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:49:08 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Yesterday we went out to lunch, which we frequently do when babysitting

DGD,
since then the cafeteria she loves has to clean up the mess. My Ma loves
fried anything. So do I, but you know how often I eat that sort of thing
(same as any of us). We bought the lunch special plate of chicken fried
chicken breast. There is not any skin, but there is a nice crunchy fried
whatever all over it. I also got a vegetable plate, which has 3 veggies.
I got mac and cheese (guess who loves that) canned corn (ditto) and green
beans. Then when we got to table, I cut the chicken into 3 pieces, put
about 2 T of mac and cheese, 2 T of corn, all the green beans and a third

of
the chicken on my plate. I really figured I would be up a pound this
morning, but still nice ole 157. I think this whole thing is about

portion
control with the high calorie/fat/sugar items, and liberal servings of 0
point items for satiety and crunch (the chew factor) and this becomes not

so
hard. Are you also finding maintenance not as difficult as it was at

first?
I am! I hope that lasts!

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
That is well put. I have been UP there now twice. So I know what's
possible. But I also know I have a lot more tools as far as food
consumption. Now, attitude, mood, spirit, whatever might have more
power behind it then just the tools. So it will need constant
monitoring and vigilance.

I wish us all the best of luck and discipline.

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:32:12 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:


Gotta tell you, I don't understand what your sister said. Do you

think
she
meant that when you get to 155, you will want to weigh less than

that?

Yes, that is what she meant. That each time I move the line down

for
"safety" I might want to move it down just a bit further so that I
draw a new safety line and don't approach the OLD one - like 164,

oh,
well, 160, hmm, 158..... 155, 154?. So maybe shooting for 155
should be just a rough idea and hovering now would be fine. Up a
pound down a pound. I know the rules. I occasionally break the

rules
but not really as I quickly try reining it back in. Like purchasing

a
Costco Fruitcake today (g) It is sliced and frozen save the one

piece
I have already eaten. And I probably "chawed" half a bag of gummy
bears last night and these are not tiny bags.


Just this part, clipped the rest. I can see myself not ever being

"done"
just from the terror of going the other way. I am going to set my

"back
to
journalin" number at 160, and let it be. I too have not been

journaling
this past week and I am at a new low. I think this just takes daily

weigh
ins, and a willingness to go back on program when the one sixes show,

and
hanging around here to keep the focus. I really have a hard time

believing
this. I was somewhere yesterday and someone I did not know well said
something that caused me to say something about being fat They

looked
at
me and said, "YOU AREN'T FAT!" I had to laugh
I forgot. I'm not.






  #14  
Old December 11th, 2003, 04:16 PM
Janice Kennish
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Default NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th

Great job on the loss Fred!!!!

--
Janice
263/253.75/150 (maybe 130)


"Fred" wrote in message
...
Okay here we go:

I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

(that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6
pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2
pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake
on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she,
by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most
of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient
clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you
will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit
lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what
I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

(aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points
(gd&r)


Fred
219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002



  #15  
Old December 11th, 2003, 04:49 PM
Brenda Hammond
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Default NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th

A year ago I was still in tops with short sleeves, blouses, t-shirts, etc.
Now I'm wearing sweaters, fleece, sweatshirst, etc. I'm cold all the time!
I wonder if our bodies will ever adjust, so that we don't feel the cold so
much?
--
Brenda
209/174/150
NYNY goal 160

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Yes, I am waiting for the power failure - not really - that is one
aspect of being thinner - I am running colder. I probably should rev
up the metabolism by doing weights for the upper body.

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:51:03 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

Wow Fred! You're doing a wonderful job and that clothing allowance is
getting bigger, soon you'll be able to really bundle up when at meetings.
Congratulations!!

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Okay here we go:

I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

(that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6
pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2
pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake
on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she,
by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most
of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient
clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you
will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit
lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what
I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

(aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points
(gd&r)


Fred
219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002





  #16  
Old December 11th, 2003, 08:56 PM
Miss Violette
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Default NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th

good, Lee
Fred wrote in message
...
Okay here we go:

I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

(that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6
pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2
pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake
on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she,
by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most
of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient
clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you
will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit
lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what
I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

(aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points
(gd&r)


Fred
219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002



  #17  
Old December 11th, 2003, 09:40 PM
Lesanne
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Default NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th

Brenda me too, my feet are Always cold.! And it is not a cold climate here,
as I am sure I have mentioned ..
"Brenda Hammond" wrote in message
...
A year ago I was still in tops with short sleeves, blouses, t-shirts, etc.
Now I'm wearing sweaters, fleece, sweatshirst, etc. I'm cold all the

time!
I wonder if our bodies will ever adjust, so that we don't feel the cold so
much?
--
Brenda
209/174/150
NYNY goal 160

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Yes, I am waiting for the power failure - not really - that is one
aspect of being thinner - I am running colder. I probably should rev
up the metabolism by doing weights for the upper body.

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:51:03 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

Wow Fred! You're doing a wonderful job and that clothing allowance is
getting bigger, soon you'll be able to really bundle up when at

meetings.
Congratulations!!

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Okay here we go:

I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

(that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing

1.6
pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2
pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake
on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue

(she,
by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most
of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient
clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then

you
will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit
lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what
I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

(aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the

points
(gd&r)


Fred
219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002







  #18  
Old December 12th, 2003, 02:01 AM
Laura
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Default NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th

Great job this week.

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Okay here we go:

I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

(that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing 1.6
pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2
pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake
on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue (she,
by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most
of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient
clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then you
will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit
lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what
I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

(aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the points
(gd&r)


Fred
219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002


  #19  
Old December 12th, 2003, 02:22 AM
Prairie Roots
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Default NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th

Me three! Today I wore long underwear (top and bottom), layered under
slacks, sweater, and jacket. I was still cold. For the last couple of
months, I get cold easily and have a hard time getting warm. My feet
STAY cold, as do my fingers. A few years ago, I ran a fan in my
office. Now I'm running a foot warmer and wishing I could type with
mittens on. I was starting to think I needed to have my thyroid
checked. But maybe being cold is a normal effect of weight loss?

Prairie Roots

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:49:55 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

A year ago I was still in tops with short sleeves, blouses, t-shirts, etc.
Now I'm wearing sweaters, fleece, sweatshirst, etc. I'm cold all the time!
I wonder if our bodies will ever adjust, so that we don't feel the cold so
much?


  #20  
Old December 12th, 2003, 02:22 AM
Fred
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Default NYNY - Fred - Dec 10th

Yes, you have mentioned it after returning from the beach just a few
weeks ago. I would probably feel quite warm down your way.

Cold feet, huh.................

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:40:33 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Brenda me too, my feet are Always cold.! And it is not a cold climate here,
as I am sure I have mentioned ..
"Brenda Hammond" wrote in message
...
A year ago I was still in tops with short sleeves, blouses, t-shirts, etc.
Now I'm wearing sweaters, fleece, sweatshirst, etc. I'm cold all the

time!
I wonder if our bodies will ever adjust, so that we don't feel the cold so
much?
--
Brenda
209/174/150
NYNY goal 160

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Yes, I am waiting for the power failure - not really - that is one
aspect of being thinner - I am running colder. I probably should rev
up the metabolism by doing weights for the upper body.

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:51:03 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

Wow Fred! You're doing a wonderful job and that clothing allowance is
getting bigger, soon you'll be able to really bundle up when at

meetings.
Congratulations!!

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Okay here we go:

I am down since last week: 1.8 pounds

(that is using my base clothing measurements which means removing

1.6
pounds from the current wardrobe) But I'm down in any event 0.2
pounds even with the heavier clothing. So I guess the chocolate cake
on Sat night was not deadly - YES!

Current weight: 156.6 (heavier clothing 158.2)

But I will mention my sister's take on this minimum weight issue

(she,
by the way has never had a weight problem other than being UNDER most
of her life!!!). I mentioned getting to 155 to have a sufficient
clothing cushion. She suggested as some of us have discussed then

you
will not want to move much from there and will try being just a bit
lower to keep 155 and so on and so forth and ...... Which is what
I've been thinking. So what does it mean. I have no idea (g)

(aside: don't eat your heart out Lesanne, you cannot afford the

points
(gd&r)


Fred
219.2/156.6/164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002







 




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