Should the morbidly obese ------

MaryLou wrote in message
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On 26 Sep 2003 14:38:07 +0200, Q*snort wrote:

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Jacob wrote:

Should the morbidly obese be permiited to live among normal people.

Excellent question, Jacob. The answer is no.

Top 10 reasons fat people are not accepted:

10. They are slow and slothlike, lumbering towards their destination,
blocking you from yours.
9. The cost society millions of dollars in obesity related diseases.
8. They ruin your dinner out because they are so digusting to look at as
they feed ravenously.
7. They smell like sweat and **** from the inability to reach themselves.
6. They don't bathe nearly as often as normal people.
5. They complain about everything and are generally rude and unpleasant
since they are so miserable.
4. They are always single-minded, looking for their next trough of food.
3. At movie theaters and on airplanes they always selfishly invade your
space.
2. They rarely try to lose weight and prefer to remain gluttonous hogs.
They usually lie about their diets.
1. They get in the way of looking at normal, thin, good-looking people.

HTH

S*nort


Very true on all counts. And they are this kind of beast by their
own choosing. If they really exercised some self discipline and
were self-respecting people they would not be morbidly obese.

This post needs to be printed and framed.

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Top 10 reasons fat people are not accepted:

10. They are slow and slothlike, lumbering towards their destination,
blocking you from yours.

I am 365 pounds at 6'3" tall. Not sure what that is medically but I would
call that morbidly obese since I am 140 pounds overweight at least. although
most never guess my weight to be more than 280-300 (I wish I was that light)

I am faster than most people think. Faster than most people "are"

I also tend to move rather quickly. I do not like "wasting" time and
moveming from point to point any slower than needed is a wasting of precious
time.

9. The(y) cost society millions of dollars in obesity related
diseases.

I cost society nothing. I have not had so much as a common cold for as long
as I can remember (over 20 years) my cholesterol BP etc.. are all FINE.
(fingers crossed)

8. They ruin your dinner out because they are so digusting to look at
as
they feed ravenously.

Actually I eat suprisingly little for my size. When I go away on trips
(many) we usually eat at buffets simple because of variety and
affordability. I eat one very large plate of salad (Obsessed with salad
which makes atkins hard) and a normalplate of food. I can never get through
more. I simply am full at that point.

7. They smell like sweat and **** from the inability to reach
themselves.

I never smell. my body can produce some very strong odors (even before I was
overweight) so hygiene is extremely important to me. I keep deoderant in the
car and shower sometimes twice a day if I even think I am getting the
slightest bit smelly and I can reach just fine thankyou.

6. They don't bathe nearly as often as normal people.

I bath more than the average person does. being oveweight I MUST bath more
often.

5. They complain about everything and are generally rude and
unpleasant
since they are so miserable.

I only complain about people like you and the ass hole politicians who are
throwing our freedom and rights away left and right and nobody is doing
anything about it.

4. They are always single-minded, looking for their next trough of
food.

Most of my intake is a matter of convenience. on the run all the time so I
eat on the run. Now I have learned to cook a crap load of food on sundays
and prep it for individual meals throughout the week. I basically make my
own convenience food except its healty.
I hate eating at fast food. I LOVE heaping mounds of vegetables. something
you can not get at fast food. but I also do notusually have an hour to stop
at a restaurant if not longer.

3. At movie theaters and on airplanes they always selfishly invade
your
space.

In theaters I usually wait till things are filling up and then pick a spot
where I have a seat to my left and right open. its as uncomfortable for me
as it is for you you know.

2. They rarely try to lose weight and prefer to remain gluttonous
hogs.
They usually lie about their diets.

It is not nearly as easy as you think. every GENE in your body RESISTS any
attempt to remove the fat short of cutting it out. your body WANTS to keep
the fat. in HS etc.. I was EXTREMELY active. so I had a ferocious (sp)
appetite. I was huge (6'0" 185 pounds) without an ounce of fat on me. When I
went to college my appetite remained and my activity level whent from
extreme to ZIP

I blew up in under a year.

since then I have been FIGHTING to lose the weight. I can maintain easy
enough without even watching what I eat. 395 for the last 5+ years. (now
365)

Atkins is so far the FIRST method that looks to be possibly effective. I
have so far lost 35 pounds. I quite atkins for a while (stopped working I
now know this was a "stall") as eating LC is VERY Expensive. never gained
even one pound back. still 365 7 months later. I am LC'ing again and plan to
stick with it this time no matter the cost. eventually my amazingly
fortunate immune system etc.. WILL fail me unless I drop the weight.

hardest thing is excercise. no TIME. (and do not say make time the amount of
time in a day is finite and unalterable) you either have time or you do not.
When I was working I was doing 5 12 hours shifts a week. that leaves VERY
little time for me. Work Drive Sleep Drive Work Drive Sleep etc.. repeat for
6 out of 7 days. (nights) My activity level throughout most of a day
consisted of sitting at a desk answering tech support questions on a phone.
Not conducive to losing weight. the only reason I am not COMPLETELY out of
shape in all regards is that my muscles have to work pretty damned hard just
to MOVE me.

I have since been laid off (they are going out of buisness it seems I hope
they survive until the economy picks up again) and now I have a LOT of time
on my hands and I plan to make very good use of it.

1. They get in the way of looking at normal, thin, good-looking
people.


ahh pitty pitty for you.


Very true on all counts. And they are this kind of beast by their
own choosing. If they really exercised some self discipline and
were self-respecting people they would not be morbidly obese.

Self Discipline is only half of it. Losing weight is NOT easy. I would like
to see any normal not overweight person EAT till they gain 30 pounds and
then try to lose it. it is NOT easy. your body resists at every step of the
way.

even atkins is a CHEAT. you are TRICKING your body into doing something it
does not want to do (burn fat) by strictly controlling your diet so it does
not know its not getting what it "thinks" it needs (sugar carbs etc..) and
the natural process of switching to fat stores kicks in.

I hope to have lost 140 pounds by next summer. I also plan next summer to
participate in the MS 150 bike tour. (150 mile bike tour in NJ) I
participated this year as a volunteer ham radio operator and thought it was
the coolest thing I have seen in a while and looks like a lot of fun. I have
a short term goal of 300 by christmas (not sure if that is possible but I am
going to try)

why 300 ? cause then I can stop going to the vet to get weighed (only scale
that will weigh me) and can buy a normal scale (they all stop at 300)

Gives me even more incentive to drop the weight as I would NEVER make it (MS
150) at my current weight.

To go on your tact. I hate high metabolism people. they have it so easy. can
eat as much as they want and not gain an ouch. my freaking brother is like
this. he can down a gallon of ice cream and not gain an ounce and he is the
epitomy of lazy. NEVER excercises I GET far more physical activity in a day
than he does. SUCKS.

so bite me.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

Lose the excuses.

--
JC

Lyle's New Ultimate Diet

"1. eat less you fat ****
2. exercise more you fat ****"

"Chris Taylor Jr" wrote in message
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I am 365 pounds at 6'3" tall. Not sure what that is medically but I would
call that morbidly obese since I am 140 pounds overweight at least.
although
most never guess my weight to be more than 280-300 (I wish I was that
light)


Actually I eat suprisingly little for my size.

They usually lie about their diets.

It is not nearly as easy as you think. every GENE in your body RESISTS any
attempt to remove the fat short of cutting it out. your body WANTS to keep
the fat. in HS etc.. I was EXTREMELY active. so I had a ferocious (sp)
appetite. I was huge (6'0" 185 pounds) without an ounce of fat on me. When
I
went to college my appetite remained and my activity level whent from
extreme to ZIP

I blew up in under a year.

since then I have been FIGHTING to lose the weight. I can maintain easy
enough without even watching what I eat. 395 for the last 5+ years. (now
365)

Atkins is so far the FIRST method that looks to be possibly effective. I
have so far lost 35 pounds. I quite atkins for a while (stopped working I
now know this was a "stall") as eating LC is VERY Expensive. never gained
even one pound back. still 365 7 months later. I am LC'ing again and plan
to
stick with it this time no matter the cost. eventually my amazingly
fortunate immune system etc.. WILL fail me unless I drop the weight.

hardest thing is excercise. no TIME. (and do not say make time the amount
of
time in a day is finite and unalterable) you either have time or you do
not.
When I was working I was doing 5 12 hours shifts a week. that leaves VERY
little time for me. Work Drive Sleep Drive Work Drive Sleep etc.. repeat
for
6 out of 7 days. (nights) My activity level throughout most of a day
consisted of sitting at a desk answering tech support questions on a
phone.
Not conducive to losing weight. the only reason I am not COMPLETELY out of
shape in all regards is that my muscles have to work pretty damned hard
just
to MOVE me.

I have since been laid off (they are going out of buisness it seems I hope
they survive until the economy picks up again) and now I have a LOT of
time
on my hands and I plan to make very good use of it.


Self Discipline is only half of it. Losing weight is NOT easy. I would
like
to see any normal not overweight person EAT till they gain 30 pounds and
then try to lose it. it is NOT easy. your body resists at every step of
the
way.

even atkins is a CHEAT. you are TRICKING your body into doing something it
does not want to do (burn fat) by strictly controlling your diet so it
does
not know its not getting what it "thinks" it needs (sugar carbs etc..) and
the natural process of switching to fat stores kicks in.

I hope to have lost 140 pounds by next summer. I also plan next summer to
participate in the MS 150 bike tour. (150 mile bike tour in NJ) I
participated this year as a volunteer ham radio operator and thought it
was
the coolest thing I have seen in a while and looks like a lot of fun. I
have
a short term goal of 300 by christmas (not sure if that is possible but I
am
going to try)

why 300 ? cause then I can stop going to the vet to get weighed (only
scale
that will weigh me) and can buy a normal scale (they all stop at 300)

Gives me even more incentive to drop the weight as I would NEVER make it
(MS
150) at my current weight.

To go on your tact. I hate high metabolism people. they have it so easy.
can
eat as much as they want and not gain an ouch. my freaking brother is like
this. he can down a gallon of ice cream and not gain an ounce and he is
the
epitomy of lazy. NEVER excercises I GET far more physical activity in a
day
than he does. SUCKS.

so bite me.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

*snip*
I eat one very large plate of salad (Obsessed with salad
which makes atkins hard)

Um.......I would think being obsessed with salad would make this WOE much
easier.......the 2 cup thing in the book is very flexible when it comes to
salad, IMO.

*thinking* Why did I read the OP? I knew better.
~*~Pie~*~
254/200/150
"Chris Taylor Jr" wrote in message
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Top 10 reasons fat people are not accepted:

10. They are slow and slothlike, lumbering towards their
destination,
blocking you from yours.

I am 365 pounds at 6'3" tall. Not sure what that is medically but I would
call that morbidly obese since I am 140 pounds overweight at least.
although
most never guess my weight to be more than 280-300 (I wish I was that
light)

I am faster than most people think. Faster than most people "are"

I also tend to move rather quickly. I do not like "wasting" time and
moveming from point to point any slower than needed is a wasting of
precious
time.

9. The(y) cost society millions of dollars in obesity related
diseases.

I cost society nothing. I have not had so much as a common cold for as
long
as I can remember (over 20 years) my cholesterol BP etc.. are all FINE.
(fingers crossed)

8. They ruin your dinner out because they are so digusting to look
at
as
they feed ravenously.

Actually I eat suprisingly little for my size. When I go away on trips
(many) we usually eat at buffets simple because of variety and
affordability. I eat one very large plate of salad (Obsessed with salad
which makes atkins hard) and a normalplate of food. I can never get
through
more. I simply am full at that point.

7. They smell like sweat and **** from the inability to reach
themselves.

I never smell. my body can produce some very strong odors (even before I
was
overweight) so hygiene is extremely important to me. I keep deoderant in
the
car and shower sometimes twice a day if I even think I am getting the
slightest bit smelly and I can reach just fine thankyou.

6. They don't bathe nearly as often as normal people.

I bath more than the average person does. being oveweight I MUST bath more
often.

5. They complain about everything and are generally rude and
unpleasant
since they are so miserable.

I only complain about people like you and the ass hole politicians who are
throwing our freedom and rights away left and right and nobody is doing
anything about it.

4. They are always single-minded, looking for their next trough of
food.

Most of my intake is a matter of convenience. on the run all the time so I
eat on the run. Now I have learned to cook a crap load of food on sundays
and prep it for individual meals throughout the week. I basically make my
own convenience food except its healty.
I hate eating at fast food. I LOVE heaping mounds of vegetables. something
you can not get at fast food. but I also do notusually have an hour to
stop
at a restaurant if not longer.

3. At movie theaters and on airplanes they always selfishly invade
your
space.

In theaters I usually wait till things are filling up and then pick a spot
where I have a seat to my left and right open. its as uncomfortable for me
as it is for you you know.

2. They rarely try to lose weight and prefer to remain gluttonous
hogs.
They usually lie about their diets.

It is not nearly as easy as you think. every GENE in your body RESISTS any
attempt to remove the fat short of cutting it out. your body WANTS to keep
the fat. in HS etc.. I was EXTREMELY active. so I had a ferocious (sp)
appetite. I was huge (6'0" 185 pounds) without an ounce of fat on me. When
I
went to college my appetite remained and my activity level whent from
extreme to ZIP

I blew up in under a year.

since then I have been FIGHTING to lose the weight. I can maintain easy
enough without even watching what I eat. 395 for the last 5+ years. (now
365)

Atkins is so far the FIRST method that looks to be possibly effective. I
have so far lost 35 pounds. I quite atkins for a while (stopped working I
now know this was a "stall") as eating LC is VERY Expensive. never gained
even one pound back. still 365 7 months later. I am LC'ing again and plan
to
stick with it this time no matter the cost. eventually my amazingly
fortunate immune system etc.. WILL fail me unless I drop the weight.

hardest thing is excercise. no TIME. (and do not say make time the amount
of
time in a day is finite and unalterable) you either have time or you do
not.
When I was working I was doing 5 12 hours shifts a week. that leaves VERY
little time for me. Work Drive Sleep Drive Work Drive Sleep etc.. repeat
for
6 out of 7 days. (nights) My activity level throughout most of a day
consisted of sitting at a desk answering tech support questions on a
phone.
Not conducive to losing weight. the only reason I am not COMPLETELY out of
shape in all regards is that my muscles have to work pretty damned hard
just
to MOVE me.

I have since been laid off (they are going out of buisness it seems I hope
they survive until the economy picks up again) and now I have a LOT of
time
on my hands and I plan to make very good use of it.

1. They get in the way of looking at normal, thin, good-looking
people.


ahh pitty pitty for you.


Very true on all counts. And they are this kind of beast by their
own choosing. If they really exercised some self discipline and
were self-respecting people they would not be morbidly obese.

Self Discipline is only half of it. Losing weight is NOT easy. I would
like
to see any normal not overweight person EAT till they gain 30 pounds and
then try to lose it. it is NOT easy. your body resists at every step of
the
way.

even atkins is a CHEAT. you are TRICKING your body into doing something it
does not want to do (burn fat) by strictly controlling your diet so it
does
not know its not getting what it "thinks" it needs (sugar carbs etc..) and
the natural process of switching to fat stores kicks in.

I hope to have lost 140 pounds by next summer. I also plan next summer to
participate in the MS 150 bike tour. (150 mile bike tour in NJ) I
participated this year as a volunteer ham radio operator and thought it
was
the coolest thing I have seen in a while and looks like a lot of fun. I
have
a short term goal of 300 by christmas (not sure if that is possible but I
am
going to try)

why 300 ? cause then I can stop going to the vet to get weighed (only
scale
that will weigh me) and can buy a normal scale (they all stop at 300)

Gives me even more incentive to drop the weight as I would NEVER make it
(MS
150) at my current weight.

To go on your tact. I hate high metabolism people. they have it so easy.
can
eat as much as they want and not gain an ouch. my freaking brother is like
this. he can down a gallon of ice cream and not gain an ounce and he is
the
epitomy of lazy. NEVER excercises I GET far more physical activity in a
day
than he does. SUCKS.

so bite me.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message ...
Lose the excuses.

--
JC

Lyle's New Ultimate Diet

"1. eat less you fat ****
2. exercise more you fat ****"

"Chris Taylor Jr" wrote in message
...
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I am 365 pounds at 6'3" tall.

[snip long interesting story]

Chris,

Thanks for your story.

Pay no attention to JC; he's a pathetic little turd.

I have him plonked in Agent, hence this reply coming from Google.

M.S.

why 300 ? cause then I can stop going to the vet to get weighed (only
scale
that will weigh me) and can buy a normal scale (they all stop at 300)

You can weigh yourself at home, Chris. Just stand on 2 scales and add the
weights.

Most of the human population is small compared to you.

--
JC

Lyle's New Ultimate Diet

"1. eat less you fat ****
2. exercise more you fat ****"

"Mary Sunshine" wrote in message
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"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
...
Lose the excuses.

--
JC

Lyle's New Ultimate Diet

"1. eat less you fat ****
2. exercise more you fat ****"

"Chris Taylor Jr" wrote in message
...
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I am 365 pounds at 6'3" tall.

[snip long interesting story]

Chris,

Thanks for your story.

Pay no attention to JC; he's a pathetic little turd.

I have him plonked in Agent, hence this reply coming from Google.

M.S.

And, most of them are smart compared to you, so what?

--
Cheri

JC Der Koenig wrote in message ...
Most of the human population is small compared to you.

--
JC

You said we weren't talking anymore. You couldn't resist?

--
JC

Lyle's New Ultimate Diet

"1. eat less you fat ****
2. exercise more you fat ****"

"Cheri" -nogarbage wrote in message
...
And, most of them are smart compared to you, so what?

--
Cheri

JC Der Koenig wrote in message ...
Most of the human population is small compared to you.

--
JC

"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
...
| Lose the excuses.
|
| --
| JC
|
| Lyle's New Ultimate Diet
|
| "1. eat less you fat ****
| 2. exercise more you fat ****"

Lose the hate.

Robin