Tomorrow night at midnight the 100 Day Diet to Thanksgiving starts!

On Aug 17, 5:00*pm, "Tin@" wrote:
On Aug 17, 4:39*pm, Caleb wrote:



On Aug 17, 4:04*pm, "Tin@" wrote:

On Aug 17, 4:02*pm, Caleb wrote:

I just looked up Jillian Michaels and think she's probably pretty
neat! This is from her website:

"Nutrition labeling includes calorie content. Make good use of that
information. If you have tried sticking to 1200 calories in the past
(or some other calorie limit) and still couldn’t lose weight, you were
probably eating more calories than you thought. For many dieters, it’s
the invisible calories eaten between meals, or consumed in beverages,
that run up the daily total and sabotage weight loss. Remember: a
latte on your coffee break, a handful of candy from a colleague’s
desk, a sports drink during your workout, the French fries off your
child’s plate—all these extras “count.” There are plenty of these
calorie traps lurking in daily life. If you want to enjoy these
treats, add them to your calorie total. Reduce your weight loss
frustration by making food labels your friend."

She sure doesn't think 1200 calories is a threat to health.

Overall, what I've read of her site suggests she is effective at
helping people with weight issues!

I doubt if she has ever been as overweight as I have been, or as
undisciplined in eating as I have been (or as many other stretch-pants
Americans have been), but her advice to others regarding weight loss
appears to be generally reasonable and not dogmatic.

Yours,

Caleb

Do you even know who she is?

She says she was overweight as a child.

How overweight? (As a kid I weighed a bit more than 290.) Overweight?
In the stretch-pants group?

Maybe yes. Maybe no.

Do you have numbers on her weight? (You were the one who cited her --
I had never heard of her before.)

Yours,

Caleb-

I dont know how overweight. *She is one of the trainers on The Biggest
Loser and she does a Sunday morning call in show on my local radio.
She says women shouldnt go below 1200 calories and men shouldnt go
below 1500.

My physician said it was fine for me to go 800 to a 1000 calories. I
can give a variety of reasons right off the bat for the apparent
differences:

My physician (a board certified internist) knows my medical history
(also hypertension, etc.) and has the medical background to advise me
to lose weight.

She knows that losing weight is difficult enough, and that if I can
maintain momentum through a faster weight-loss regimen, then so much
the better.

Jillian is dispensing advice to people in general and she probably has
to err on the side of conservatism. (e.g., people with a history of
gall stones should be very careful about how large a calorie deficit
they should maintain.)

I don't know her professional background, but I'm sure Jillian does
her job well. I also know that as a professional she would not presume
to give me medical advice that conflicts with what my personal
physician has advised, especially as she has never seen me, talked to
me, evaluated me, etc.

On the other hand, remaining overweight is clearly dangerous,
unhealthy, etc.

Turns out, of course, that losing significant weight for even 18
months of time can result in health benefits (e.g., reduction of Type
2 diabetes risk) that can last for 4 years. I sure have maintained
significant weight loss for a heck of a lot more than 18 months, and I
will do so again.

People imbued with faddish beliefs all too often do not look at the
literature. The so-called "yo-yo" dieting phenomenon is largely a
myth. (People don't find it more difficult to lose weight if they have
lost weight before. People are not incredibly fragile. Some research
shows that it does not really benefit one more if the weight comes off
more slowly than faster.)

The major goal for those trying to lose weight is this -- being good
enough for long enough.

(Even Jillian herself says on the bottom of one of her pages that her
methods do not speak to maintenance of weight loss, but that the
methods use to lose weight may also help to maintain weight-loss
itself. Sounds reasonable to me.)

I think the metaphor of a marathon is a good one, in which people
train to get in shape, and are going on longer and longer runs. So too
weight loss has been like that for me, with periods of slacking off
and periods of clear focus. Not too many athletes are in focus all
year long. (Not many have overeaten the way I have, but I am not an
athlete -- I am a "civilian" who has been able to follow an effective
program and who says that everyone else can do so as well.

1200 for women and 1500 for men? If I stayed on that program by the
numbers I posted earlier I still would lose about 38 pounds, and so I
have no problem generally with Jillian's posts.

I just want people to GET INTO GEAR AND DO IT! If I can be useful as a
demo dieter, I'd be happy to do that for them!

Yours,

Caleb

On Aug 17, 5:18*pm, Caleb wrote:
On Aug 17, 5:00*pm, "Tin@" wrote:





On Aug 17, 4:39*pm, Caleb wrote:

On Aug 17, 4:04*pm, "Tin@" wrote:

On Aug 17, 4:02*pm, Caleb wrote:

I just looked up Jillian Michaels and think she's probably pretty
neat! This is from her website:

"Nutrition labeling includes calorie content. Make good use of that
information. If you have tried sticking to 1200 calories in the past
(or some other calorie limit) and still couldn’t lose weight, you were
probably eating more calories than you thought. For many dieters, it’s
the invisible calories eaten between meals, or consumed in beverages,
that run up the daily total and sabotage weight loss. Remember: a
latte on your coffee break, a handful of candy from a colleague’s
desk, a sports drink during your workout, the French fries off your
child’s plate—all these extras “count.” There are plenty of these
calorie traps lurking in daily life. If you want to enjoy these
treats, add them to your calorie total. Reduce your weight loss
frustration by making food labels your friend."

She sure doesn't think 1200 calories is a threat to health.

Overall, what I've read of her site suggests she is effective at
helping people with weight issues!

I doubt if she has ever been as overweight as I have been, or as
undisciplined in eating as I have been (or as many other stretch-pants
Americans have been), but her advice to others regarding weight loss
appears to be generally reasonable and not dogmatic.

Yours,

Caleb

Do you even know who she is?

She says she was overweight as a child.

How overweight? (As a kid I weighed a bit more than 290.) Overweight?
In the stretch-pants group?

Maybe yes. Maybe no.

Do you have numbers on her weight? (You were the one who cited her --
I had never heard of her before.)

Yours,

Caleb-

I dont know how overweight. *She is one of the trainers on The Biggest
Loser and she does a Sunday morning call in show on my local radio.
She says women shouldnt go below 1200 calories and men shouldnt go
below 1500.

My physician said it was fine for me to go 800 to a 1000 calories. I
can give a variety of reasons right off the bat for the apparent
differences:

My physician (a board certified internist) knows my medical history
(also hypertension, etc.) and has the medical background to advise me
to lose weight.

She knows that losing weight is difficult enough, and that if I can
maintain momentum through a faster weight-loss regimen, then so much
the better.

Jillian is dispensing advice to people in general and she probably has
to err on the side of conservatism. (e.g., people with a history of
gall stones should be very careful about how large a calorie deficit
they should maintain.)

I don't know her professional background, but I'm sure Jillian does
her job well. I also know that as a professional she would not presume
to give me medical advice that conflicts with what my personal
physician has advised, especially as she has never seen me, talked to
me, evaluated me, etc.

On the other hand, remaining overweight is clearly dangerous,
unhealthy, etc.

Turns out, of course, that losing significant weight for even 18
months of time can result in health benefits (e.g., reduction of Type
2 diabetes risk) that can last for 4 years. I sure have maintained
significant weight loss for a heck of a lot more than 18 months, and I
will do so again.

People imbued with faddish beliefs all too often do not look at the
literature. The so-called "yo-yo" dieting phenomenon is largely a
myth. (People don't find it more difficult to lose weight if they have
lost weight before. People are not incredibly fragile. Some research
shows that it does not really benefit one more if the weight comes off
more slowly than faster.)

The major goal for those trying to lose weight is this -- being good
enough for long enough.

(Even Jillian herself says on the bottom of one of her pages that her
methods do not speak to maintenance of weight loss, but that the
methods use to lose weight may also help to maintain weight-loss
itself. Sounds reasonable to me.)

I think the metaphor of a marathon is a good one, in which people
train to get in shape, and are going on longer and longer runs. So too
weight loss has been like that for me, with periods of slacking off
and periods of clear focus. Not too many athletes are in focus all
year long. (Not many have overeaten the way I have, but I am not an
athlete -- I am a "civilian" who has been able to follow an effective
program and who says that everyone else can do so as well.

1200 for women and 1500 for men? If I stayed on that program by the
numbers I posted earlier I still would lose about 38 pounds, and so I
have no problem generally with Jillian's posts.

I just want people to GET INTO GEAR AND DO IT! If I can be useful as a
demo dieter, I'd be happy to do that for them!

Yours,

Caleb- Hide quoted text -

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Well good luck to you.

On Aug 17, 6:02*pm, "Tin@" wrote:
On Aug 17, 5:18*pm, Caleb wrote:



On Aug 17, 5:00*pm, "Tin@" wrote:

On Aug 17, 4:39*pm, Caleb wrote:

On Aug 17, 4:04*pm, "Tin@" wrote:

On Aug 17, 4:02*pm, Caleb wrote:

I just looked up Jillian Michaels and think she's probably pretty
neat! This is from her website:

"Nutrition labeling includes calorie content. Make good use of that
information. If you have tried sticking to 1200 calories in the past
(or some other calorie limit) and still couldn’t lose weight, you were
probably eating more calories than you thought. For many dieters, it’s
the invisible calories eaten between meals, or consumed in beverages,
that run up the daily total and sabotage weight loss. Remember: a
latte on your coffee break, a handful of candy from a colleague’s
desk, a sports drink during your workout, the French fries off your
child’s plate—all these extras “count.” There are plenty of these
calorie traps lurking in daily life. If you want to enjoy these
treats, add them to your calorie total. Reduce your weight loss
frustration by making food labels your friend."

She sure doesn't think 1200 calories is a threat to health.

Overall, what I've read of her site suggests she is effective at
helping people with weight issues!

I doubt if she has ever been as overweight as I have been, or as
undisciplined in eating as I have been (or as many other stretch-pants
Americans have been), but her advice to others regarding weight loss
appears to be generally reasonable and not dogmatic.

Yours,

Caleb

Do you even know who she is?

She says she was overweight as a child.

How overweight? (As a kid I weighed a bit more than 290.) Overweight?
In the stretch-pants group?

Maybe yes. Maybe no.

Do you have numbers on her weight? (You were the one who cited her --
I had never heard of her before.)

Yours,

Caleb-

I dont know how overweight. *She is one of the trainers on The Biggest
Loser and she does a Sunday morning call in show on my local radio.
She says women shouldnt go below 1200 calories and men shouldnt go
below 1500.

My physician said it was fine for me to go 800 to a 1000 calories. I
can give a variety of reasons right off the bat for the apparent
differences:

My physician (a board certified internist) knows my medical history
(also hypertension, etc.) and has the medical background to advise me
to lose weight.

She knows that losing weight is difficult enough, and that if I can
maintain momentum through a faster weight-loss regimen, then so much
the better.

Jillian is dispensing advice to people in general and she probably has
to err on the side of conservatism. (e.g., people with a history of
gall stones should be very careful about how large a calorie deficit
they should maintain.)

I don't know her professional background, but I'm sure Jillian does
her job well. I also know that as a professional she would not presume
to give me medical advice that conflicts with what my personal
physician has advised, especially as she has never seen me, talked to
me, evaluated me, etc.

On the other hand, remaining overweight is clearly dangerous,
unhealthy, etc.

Turns out, of course, that losing significant weight for even 18
months of time can result in health benefits (e.g., reduction of Type
2 diabetes risk) that can last for 4 years. I sure have maintained
significant weight loss for a heck of a lot more than 18 months, and I
will do so again.

People imbued with faddish beliefs all too often do not look at the
literature. The so-called "yo-yo" dieting phenomenon is largely a
myth. (People don't find it more difficult to lose weight if they have
lost weight before. People are not incredibly fragile. Some research
shows that it does not really benefit one more if the weight comes off
more slowly than faster.)

The major goal for those trying to lose weight is this -- being good
enough for long enough.

(Even Jillian herself says on the bottom of one of her pages that her
methods do not speak to maintenance of weight loss, but that the
methods use to lose weight may also help to maintain weight-loss
itself. Sounds reasonable to me.)

I think the metaphor of a marathon is a good one, in which people
train to get in shape, and are going on longer and longer runs. So too
weight loss has been like that for me, with periods of slacking off
and periods of clear focus. Not too many athletes are in focus all
year long. (Not many have overeaten the way I have, but I am not an
athlete -- I am a "civilian" who has been able to follow an effective
program and who says that everyone else can do so as well.

1200 for women and 1500 for men? If I stayed on that program by the
numbers I posted earlier I still would lose about 38 pounds, and so I
have no problem generally with Jillian's posts.

I just want people to GET INTO GEAR AND DO IT! If I can be useful as a
demo dieter, I'd be happy to do that for them!

Yours,

Caleb- Hide quoted text -

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Well good luck to you.

Tin --

Thank you very much! And I sure wish the very best to you and everyone
here!

If we all meet our goals, then we are all winners the deepest and most
important sense! Certainly this should not be a zero-sum game, with
people doing well at the expense of others. Whatever reasonable road
leads to success is a good road.

Yours,

Caleb