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More about the importance of diet, and the dangers of resortingto drugs.
On Aug 3, 11:02*am, Dogman wrote:
On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 07:11:46 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: [...] Mostly, yes. Which is why it's almost impossible to find the *actual* virus in any person with AIDS. A good example of a huge big denialist lie. In probably 99.999% of AIDS cases, the actual virus is never even looked for, much less found. Only the *antibodies* are found! Yes indeed. *Just like in 99.999% of hepatitis cases the actual virus is never looked for. Nor is it ever found. Very similar to HIV, HCV is probably a "passenger" virus, that rears it's ugly head only after a certain amount of damage has been done to the liver, from abusing drugs, alcohol, etc. http://www.healtoronto.com/hepc.html As usual, more crap from a kook AIDS denialist website. As if they are a credible source on hepatitis. And who said it had to be hep C? Is hep B not a real disease too because antibody tests are used for diagnosis and the actual virus is not isolated in every patient? Pick any of the other diseases out there today where antibody testing is used for diagnosis. Google "antibody disease test" and every testing lab has them and they are routinely used. Why do you continue to make a fool of yourself? As for looking for the actual virus, in the case of AIDS, we do have tests that measure the actual amount of virus in the patients body. No, we do not. But most importantly, they're extremely rarely used anyway, relying instead on antibody tests and clinical observations. That's another lie. The viral load is being measured on most, if not all the patients on current AIDS drug therapy. AIDS is caused by poor diet, not enough sleep, recreational drug use, or too much sex This is something that anyone can test on him/herself. Any takers? That exact experiment has been performed for 30 years and continues to be performed today. Yes, people continue to live the drug-abusive lifestyle, have promiscuous male sex with hundreds of partners a month, take AIDS drugs, etc., and they continue to die. *Some "experiment," eh? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. We have study after study of recreational drug users, prostitutes, gay men, hemophiliacs, blood transfusion recipients. *And all say exactly the same thing. *Absent HIV infection people in those groups do not get AIDS despite having exactly the same set of risk factors. The vast majority of smokers never get lung cancer. Thus, some people who live this lifestyle can survive longer than others can. But if they live it long enough, burning the candle at both ends, etc., they will eventually destroy their immune systems -- and die. *Either from their lifestyle, lack of nutrition, or from being given AIDS drugs. Which has nothing whatever to do with the fact that people in any of these groups, absent HIV infection, never get AIDS. Why do you lie? Surely you must understand this most basic concept. We look at say recreational drug users and find that only those that use IV drugs get AIDS. We further find that of these, only those that are HIV+ go on to develop AIDS. We see that those IV drug abusers that are HIV+ have many times the mortality rate of identical IV drug abusers who are HIV-. This has been studied again and again around the world by independent AIDS researchers. You know, the kind that actual research AIDS instead of just writing denialist opinion pieces and talking to glowing alien raccoons. The exact same thing has been studied and studied and studied in prostitutes, gay men, blood transfusion recipients, hemophiliacs, soccer moms. Pick any group and it's been studied. The conclusion is always the same. Absent HIV infection they don't develop AIDS. With HIV infection the vast majority do and that group has an astonishing mortality rate compared to the control group. Why must you lie? Oh, I know, it's because you're really just a bigot with an agenda. You abuse your immune system at your own risk. -- We're still waiting for that study that shows it's possible to produce what characterizes AIDS by "abusing your immune system". Show us the study that shows there are patients who have CD4 counts near zero while abusing their immune systems. Show us where they continue to have CD4 counts near zero and all the symptoms of AIDS, despite no longer abusing their immune system. Show us the study where they die at 30..... You can't because it doesn't exist. On the other hand real studies have shown over and over that HIV infection produces exactly that, CD4 near zero and AIDS, no "abuse" required. |
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