Well I am most certainly on top this week

I tell her I love her every day. And yeah.

"Laura" wrote in message
...
Sorry to hear about your mother. Hang in there. You'll figure out what is
best for her. Let her know you love her and that you are there for her.
God
will figure it out for you. He always does.

"Lesanne" wrote in message
...
WW ranges are pretty much based upon normal BMI ranges.

I was back to journaling, and getting things sort of under control, but
yesterday went hog wild. If I had to say why, it was a combo of actual
hunger, and I think the stresses around here lately. There is more
going
on
than just school. I have daughter problems, and Mom is also showing
some
signs that may be heart failure.

My mind says, let her be and let her go if that is what is going on,
since
her quality of life has gotten so poor, but my heart is scared.

La
"Fred" wrote in message
news
Sorry about that UPPER positioning.

You are back to Journaling?

Have you cut back activities/exercise to do the studying?

Are you really measuring/weighing portions or taking for granted that
you know what a cup of cereal "looks" like (this is my big one)

Then again, you are below WW's goal even if not your own one. Maybe
your body is designed to be at the upper end of their range - there
must be a reason for the ranges which actually are quite large. And
now that I mention that, does anybody know the derivation of WW ranges
for heights? Just based on averages? Medical or scientific? (why
can't I find the url that has the WW points chart????)

On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:07:20 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

This is Bad. I have got to do something different. Going to mow the
yard
this morning then try to make my meeting, but not weigh in, thank
goodness I
am okay for May

Lesanne
365/162.5/159

I am doing very well today. Maybe I just needed to see that weight go Up
again.

I feel better today as well. I think I am getting it taken care of. I have
some lovely ripe peaches.

"Fred" wrote in message
...
I'm sorry about your mom. It is hard. And since I was just back in
NY for my dad's memorial, I did think did he opt out too soon. But
that is probably "too soon" for me but probably not for him! And he
had his mental faculties - just that he did not want to lose control
of his situation where others would now call the shots. I guess when
our parent's parts wear out (hips, knees, heart, mind) we just have to
get ready and boy, is it hard.

And it appears stress seems to be the topic of popular discussion. I
am sure we all wish we knew more.

And I know some of the answers might be, so let things slide, but
frankly, I don't think that is a good answer since our own health and
wellbeing is also on the line. Suggestions, well, that is where I
fall short. Just try finding some strength and willpower and eat
fruits and veggies if you can.

Best

On Sat, 22 May 2004 18:11:57 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

WW ranges are pretty much based upon normal BMI ranges.

I was back to journaling, and getting things sort of under control, but
yesterday went hog wild. If I had to say why, it was a combo of actual
hunger, and I think the stresses around here lately. There is more going
on
than just school. I have daughter problems, and Mom is also showing some
signs that may be heart failure.

My mind says, let her be and let her go if that is what is going on,
since
her quality of life has gotten so poor, but my heart is scared.

La
"Fred" wrote in message
news
Sorry about that UPPER positioning.

You are back to Journaling?

Have you cut back activities/exercise to do the studying?

Are you really measuring/weighing portions or taking for granted that
you know what a cup of cereal "looks" like (this is my big one)

Then again, you are below WW's goal even if not your own one. Maybe
your body is designed to be at the upper end of their range - there
must be a reason for the ranges which actually are quite large. And
now that I mention that, does anybody know the derivation of WW ranges
for heights? Just based on averages? Medical or scientific? (why
can't I find the url that has the WW points chart????)

On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:07:20 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

This is Bad. I have got to do something different. Going to mow the
yard
this morning then try to make my meeting, but not weigh in, thank
goodness I
am okay for May

Lesanne
365/162.5/159

I know about daughter problems. Thankfully I was able to drive away
from mine. I'm better off not knowing. She has a few too many of her
dad's traits for me to have much tolerance for certain shenanigans.

What a jumble of feelings and thoughts you must be having. Even when
one knows that death is not the worst thing that can happen to a
person, letting a loved one move on is about the hardest thing one
ever has to do in life.

May you receive the wisdom and strength you need to make good
decisions for you and your family.

On Sat, 22 May 2004 18:14:11 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

I am making some changes. This is not going to get me. And yeah, there is
a LOT going on. (see answer to Fred)

"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
.. .
Other than the new focus on studying instead of weight
loss/maintenance, is there anything else different going on with you?
Are you keeping up your activity levels? Have your routines changed?
Might this be a seasonal thing?

If this is a one-time fluctuation, don't overly fret about it. But if
you think it's a trend, then going to a meeting might be just the
answer.

I found that my absence from this group during my vacation had the
effect of lessening my focus. Is it possible for you to schedule
regular time here?

There is a way for you to accommodate being a student and maintaining
your weight loss. You just haven't yet found the plan that will help
you reach all of your goals. You will, though.

On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:07:20 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

This is Bad. I have got to do something different. Going to mow the yard
this morning then try to make my meeting, but not weigh in, thank
goodness I
am okay for May

Lesanne
365/162.5/159

The only time I have seen that one is in their book. I don't do the online
tools but I suspect that it would be there too. Post a separate thread about
this chart. Someone who does the online version could post it for us.

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Unfortunately, I think that was the one I was thinking about but not
the one I wanted (G)

I guess I want a chart showing HEIGHTS and the weight ranges
considered "normal" for those heights. Maybe there is not one on the
web? Probably somewhere on WW's e-tools/online sites???



On Sat, 22 May 2004 17:04:33 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
news
Sorry about that UPPER positioning.

You are back to Journaling?

Have you cut back activities/exercise to do the studying?

Are you really measuring/weighing portions or taking for granted that
you know what a cup of cereal "looks" like (this is my big one)

Then again, you are below WW's goal even if not your own one. Maybe
your body is designed to be at the upper end of their range - there
must be a reason for the ranges which actually are quite large. And
now that I mention that, does anybody know the derivation of WW ranges
for heights? Just based on averages? Medical or scientific? (why
can't I find the url that has the WW points chart????)

Is this what you were looking for?
http://www.lesslisa.com/wwchart.htm

I guess that I have been lucky in being *spared* the agony of watching a
loved one pass. My daughter's passing happened so quickly that I never made
it to Philly to spend time with her. In my dad's case, my sister put off
telling me just how bad he was until it was too late. It is still hard to
deal with but I think it would have been worse it I had been there
remembering how things went at the very end.

"Fred" wrote in message
...
I'm sorry about your mom. It is hard. And since I was just back in
NY for my dad's memorial, I did think did he opt out too soon. But
that is probably "too soon" for me but probably not for him! And he
had his mental faculties - just that he did not want to lose control
of his situation where others would now call the shots. I guess when
our parent's parts wear out (hips, knees, heart, mind) we just have to
get ready and boy, is it hard.

And it appears stress seems to be the topic of popular discussion. I
am sure we all wish we knew more.

And I know some of the answers might be, so let things slide, but
frankly, I don't think that is a good answer since our own health and
wellbeing is also on the line. Suggestions, well, that is where I
fall short. Just try finding some strength and willpower and eat
fruits and veggies if you can.

Best

On Sat, 22 May 2004 18:11:57 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

WW ranges are pretty much based upon normal BMI ranges.

I was back to journaling, and getting things sort of under control, but
yesterday went hog wild. If I had to say why, it was a combo of actual
hunger, and I think the stresses around here lately. There is more going
on
than just school. I have daughter problems, and Mom is also showing some
signs that may be heart failure.

My mind says, let her be and let her go if that is what is going on,
since
her quality of life has gotten so poor, but my heart is scared.

La
"Fred" wrote in message
news
Sorry about that UPPER positioning.

You are back to Journaling?

Have you cut back activities/exercise to do the studying?

Are you really measuring/weighing portions or taking for granted that
you know what a cup of cereal "looks" like (this is my big one)

Then again, you are below WW's goal even if not your own one. Maybe
your body is designed to be at the upper end of their range - there
must be a reason for the ranges which actually are quite large. And
now that I mention that, does anybody know the derivation of WW ranges
for heights? Just based on averages? Medical or scientific? (why
can't I find the url that has the WW points chart????)

On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:07:20 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

This is Bad. I have got to do something different. Going to mow the
yard
this morning then try to make my meeting, but not weigh in, thank
goodness I
am okay for May

Lesanne
365/162.5/159

My daughter is about half way through a college education at age 35. And in
an incredibly dysfunctional relationship. Right now she is on break, and I
am just sticking my head in the ground .... Her S.O. would very much like
her to fail at college. She is getting mostly A's and B's, but going off on
the occasional self destructive "whatever". It amazes me. I guess she could
get straight A's if she wasn't. I am at a point now, where if she gets a
degree, I am going to move a minimum of 1000 miles away from them, and just
hijack the grandbaby in the summer or something. Actually, she has 2 years
(I have been helping, by baby sitting while she goes to class, and in other
ways). If she is not done in 2 years, I am Still going to hide.

"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
...
I know about daughter problems. Thankfully I was able to drive away
from mine. I'm better off not knowing. She has a few too many of her
dad's traits for me to have much tolerance for certain shenanigans.

What a jumble of feelings and thoughts you must be having. Even when
one knows that death is not the worst thing that can happen to a
person, letting a loved one move on is about the hardest thing one
ever has to do in life.

May you receive the wisdom and strength you need to make good
decisions for you and your family.

On Sat, 22 May 2004 18:14:11 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

I am making some changes. This is not going to get me. And yeah, there
is
a LOT going on. (see answer to Fred)

"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
.. .
Other than the new focus on studying instead of weight
loss/maintenance, is there anything else different going on with you?
Are you keeping up your activity levels? Have your routines changed?
Might this be a seasonal thing?

If this is a one-time fluctuation, don't overly fret about it. But if
you think it's a trend, then going to a meeting might be just the
answer.

I found that my absence from this group during my vacation had the
effect of lessening my focus. Is it possible for you to schedule
regular time here?

There is a way for you to accommodate being a student and maintaining
your weight loss. You just haven't yet found the plan that will help
you reach all of your goals. You will, though.

On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:07:20 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

This is Bad. I have got to do something different. Going to mow the
yard
this morning then try to make my meeting, but not weigh in, thank
goodness I
am okay for May

Lesanne
365/162.5/159

I think I've found what you're looking for. I've copied it but now I
need a few minutes to convert it out of table form into something that
will look right in plain text. Stay tuned...

On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:23:57 -0700, Fred
wrote:

Unfortunately, I think that was the one I was thinking about but not
the one I wanted (G)

I guess I want a chart showing HEIGHTS and the weight ranges
considered "normal" for those heights. Maybe there is not one on the
web? Probably somewhere on WW's e-tools/online sites???



On Sat, 22 May 2004 17:04:33 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
news
Sorry about that UPPER positioning.

You are back to Journaling?

Have you cut back activities/exercise to do the studying?

Are you really measuring/weighing portions or taking for granted that
you know what a cup of cereal "looks" like (this is my big one)

Then again, you are below WW's goal even if not your own one. Maybe
your body is designed to be at the upper end of their range - there
must be a reason for the ranges which actually are quite large. And
now that I mention that, does anybody know the derivation of WW ranges
for heights? Just based on averages? Medical or scientific? (why
can't I find the url that has the WW points chart????)

Is this what you were looking for?
http://www.lesslisa.com/wwchart.htm

I knew someone would come up with the right chart.

"Prairie Roots" wrote in message
...
I think I've found what you're looking for. I've copied it but now I
need a few minutes to convert it out of table form into something that
will look right in plain text. Stay tuned...

On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:23:57 -0700, Fred
wrote:

Unfortunately, I think that was the one I was thinking about but not
the one I wanted (G)

I guess I want a chart showing HEIGHTS and the weight ranges
considered "normal" for those heights. Maybe there is not one on the
web? Probably somewhere on WW's e-tools/online sites???



On Sat, 22 May 2004 17:04:33 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
news Sorry about that UPPER positioning.

You are back to Journaling?

Have you cut back activities/exercise to do the studying?

Are you really measuring/weighing portions or taking for granted that
you know what a cup of cereal "looks" like (this is my big one)

Then again, you are below WW's goal even if not your own one. Maybe
your body is designed to be at the upper end of their range - there
must be a reason for the ranges which actually are quite large. And
now that I mention that, does anybody know the derivation of WW ranges
for heights? Just based on averages? Medical or scientific? (why
can't I find the url that has the WW points chart????)

Is this what you were looking for?
http://www.lesslisa.com/wwchart.htm

Hope this is what you're looking for. If you can't read the chart
below (viewed best with Courier New or other monospace font), I copied
the table and posted it on my Weblog:
http://prairieroots.typepad.com/prai..._range_ch.html

I'll keep it at that URL for as long I maintain my weblog, so you
might want to bookmark that page.


Height Weight Ranges (in pounds)
(ft, in)

Min Max for Max for Max for
(BMI=20)25 y.o. 25-45 45+(BMI=25)
4'8" 89 102 107 111
4'9" 92 106 111 115
4'10" 95 110 115 119
4'11" 99 114 119 124
5'0" 102 118 123 128
5'1" 106 121 127 132
5'2" 109 125 131 136
5'3" 113 130 135 141
5'4" 116 134 140 145
5'5" 120 138 144 150
5'6" 124 142 148 155
5'7" 127 147 153 159
5'8" 131 151 158 164
5'9" 135 155 162 169
5'10" 139 160 167 174
5'11" 143 165 172 179
6'0" 147 169 177 184
6'1" 151 174 182 189
6'2" 155 179 187 194
6'3" 160 184 192 200
6'4" 164 189 197 205
6'5" 168 194 202 210
6'6" 173 199 207 216
6'7" 177 204 213 221

Weight Ranges are used to recommend appropriate weights for differing
groups of people. Weight Watchers uses ranges based on Body Mass Index
(BMI). Based on our Weight Ranges table, a recommended weight is a
“general neighborhood” of about 20 pounds from the low to the high end
of the range.


On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:23:57 -0700, Fred
wrote:

Unfortunately, I think that was the one I was thinking about but not
the one I wanted (G)

I guess I want a chart showing HEIGHTS and the weight ranges
considered "normal" for those heights. Maybe there is not one on the
web? Probably somewhere on WW's e-tools/online sites???



On Sat, 22 May 2004 17:04:33 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
news
Sorry about that UPPER positioning.

You are back to Journaling?

Have you cut back activities/exercise to do the studying?

Are you really measuring/weighing portions or taking for granted that
you know what a cup of cereal "looks" like (this is my big one)

Then again, you are below WW's goal even if not your own one. Maybe
your body is designed to be at the upper end of their range - there
must be a reason for the ranges which actually are quite large. And
now that I mention that, does anybody know the derivation of WW ranges
for heights? Just based on averages? Medical or scientific? (why
can't I find the url that has the WW points chart????)

Is this what you were looking for?
http://www.lesslisa.com/wwchart.htm

Years ago, WW had different weight charts for men vs. women and adults vs.
teens. I have it in one of their old cookbooks and refer to it most often
as it seems to be a little bit more specific than their current weight
charts in the Welcome Booklet.

Debbie

"Fred" wrote in message
news
Sorry about that UPPER positioning.

You are back to Journaling?

Have you cut back activities/exercise to do the studying?

Are you really measuring/weighing portions or taking for granted that
you know what a cup of cereal "looks" like (this is my big one)

Then again, you are below WW's goal even if not your own one. Maybe
your body is designed to be at the upper end of their range - there
must be a reason for the ranges which actually are quite large. And
now that I mention that, does anybody know the derivation of WW ranges
for heights? Just based on averages? Medical or scientific? (why
can't I find the url that has the WW points chart????)

On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:07:20 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

This is Bad. I have got to do something different. Going to mow the yard
this morning then try to make my meeting, but not weigh in, thank
goodness I
am okay for May

Lesanne
365/162.5/159