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Article: Young, skinny < and obsessed with diets
In article , GaryG
wrote: "Carol Frilegh" wrote in message ... In article , GaryG wrote: A 13 year old girl, 5' 6" tall, who weighs 114 lbs, is in the "Normal Range" according to the Centers for Disease Control/World Health Organization, with a Body Mass Index of 18.4. At her age, height, and gender she would be in the 31st weight percentile, compared to US averages. Although she is at the low end of normal, and may indeed have an eating disorder, her current weight is not that extreme by comparison. GG http://www.WeightWare.com Your Weight and Health Diary Fitday has that girl off the chart in a blank zone underweight. Interesting...I wonder where fitday gets their numbers from? Does their system take into account her age and sex? (I couldn't find anything on their web site). One of the better Body Mass Index sites I've found is Steven Halls, MD. His calculator is he http://www.halls.md/body-mass-index/bmi.htm It's true that some BMI calculators indicate "Underweight" starting around BMI=18.5. But, most of those are for adults...teens tend to naturally run low BMI's. Her weight is in the 31st percentile, which is on the low side, but not abnormally low for her age and height. It sounds like she may have an eating disorder, but based on her weight alone, she may not yet be in a dangerous condition (physically, anyway). GG Doing it subjectively, at 13 I had reached my full height of 5 ft 6 1/2 inches and a weight of 165. The lowest I ever got subsequently was the low 130's and it was below my set point. Now shorter and wiser, I hang around 139-141 with an acceptable BMI, some pinchable areas and the ongoing battle with gravity one expects at age 73. That teen would have to be extremely small boned at 113-115 and is probably headed for a career as a runway supermodel. You sound very weight wise and savvy and I look forward to downloading and checking out your program because there is something magical about the words "Free Trial" -- Diva ***** The Best Man for the Job May Be A Woman |
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Article: Young, skinny < and obsessed with diets
"Carol Frilegh" wrote in message
... In article , GaryG wrote: "Carol Frilegh" wrote in message ... In article , GaryG wrote: A 13 year old girl, 5' 6" tall, who weighs 114 lbs, is in the "Normal Range" according to the Centers for Disease Control/World Health Organization, with a Body Mass Index of 18.4. At her age, height, and gender she would be in the 31st weight percentile, compared to US averages. Although she is at the low end of normal, and may indeed have an eating disorder, her current weight is not that extreme by comparison. GG http://www.WeightWare.com Your Weight and Health Diary Fitday has that girl off the chart in a blank zone underweight. Interesting...I wonder where fitday gets their numbers from? Does their system take into account her age and sex? (I couldn't find anything on their web site). One of the better Body Mass Index sites I've found is Steven Halls, MD. His calculator is he http://www.halls.md/body-mass-index/bmi.htm It's true that some BMI calculators indicate "Underweight" starting around BMI=18.5. But, most of those are for adults...teens tend to naturally run low BMI's. Her weight is in the 31st percentile, which is on the low side, but not abnormally low for her age and height. It sounds like she may have an eating disorder, but based on her weight alone, she may not yet be in a dangerous condition (physically, anyway). GG Doing it subjectively, at 13 I had reached my full height of 5 ft 6 1/2 inches and a weight of 165. The lowest I ever got subsequently was the low 130's and it was below my set point. Now shorter and wiser, I hang around 139-141 with an acceptable BMI, some pinchable areas and the ongoing battle with gravity one expects at age 73. That teen would have to be extremely small boned at 113-115 and is probably headed for a career as a runway supermodel. You sound very weight wise and savvy and I look forward to downloading and checking out your program because there is something magical about the words "Free Trial" Ahhh, thanks...that's music to my ears :-). I hope you enjoy WeightWare and find it useful, but you might want to wait a day or two before downloading it. The new version 1.4 includes several new graphs, some bug fixes, and some ease-of-use enhancements. I hope to release it to the website early tomorrow. GG http://www.WeightWare.com Your Weight and Health Diary -- Diva ***** The Best Man for the Job May Be A Woman |
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Article: Young, skinny < and obsessed with diets
"Ignoramus8628" wrote in message ... In article , That T Woman wrote: This is one of your more stupid posts, Ig. You're scraping the bottom of the barrel to find something positive to say about a 13 year old girl starving herself to stay stick thin. I wonder what her school work is like the days she only eats the piece of fruit. This is so not what we should want a 13 year old to be doing. "If she lives to old age"? What about the *quality* of her life now and in the immediate future? Well, I merely pointed out one aspect of her anorexic lifestyle that happens to be beneficial. Surely, one could find many other not so positive sides of anorexia, and you did a splendid job at that. Calling a post that brings up an interesting finding regarding cancer risk of anorexic women, stupid just because it does not pay lip service to dangers of anorexia (already well known), is not justifiable. i So if that was your 13 year old living on one piece of fruit a day in order to stay thin, it would be ok with you because it would reduce the possibility of cancer at a later age (if she lives long enough)? I find your pro-ana attitude extremely disturbing and I'm actually stunned that someone who claims to be such an intelligent adult can be so completely obtuse about this one subject. Anorexia has a high mortality rate, the highest rate of any psychiatric disorder and probably higher than some forms of breast cancer these days. Sorry if I'm just paying lip service to the truth. I'm not referring to your adult friends who maintain a calorie restricted WOE because they think it's going to help them live longer. I'm talking about teenagers who are terrified to eat because they think that their emaciated bodies are unattractively fat and who will literally starve themselves to death as a result. So much for increasing life expectancy, huh? |
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Article: Young, skinny < and obsessed with diets
"That T Woman" wrote in message ... "Steve" wrote in message ... Carol Frilegh wrote: Young, skinny and obsessed with diets Weight concerns can as early as 14 Fashion, parents take the blameGirls, and some boys too, unduly concerned about weight snip A decade ago this article would have inspired outrage, but that was before obese toddlers and teen agers with type II diabetes. Steve So we should ignore that some teenagers are starving themselves because some toddlers are obese and some teenagers have diabetes? Can't we be outraged about all the extremes? Tonia Well T, I guess anything is better than being fat (or perceived as fat). |
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Article: Young, skinny ‹ and obsessed with diets
Carol Frilegh wrote in
: Young, skinny ‹ and obsessed with diets Weight concerns can as early as 14 Fashion, parents take the blameGirls, and some boys too, unduly concerned about weight snipped In spite of the anorexia debate, I can tell you that the disease is not restricted to girls. I went from 6'0 225 at 14 to 6'2" 160 at 17 and still saw myself as fat. I'd had a lifetime of extremes and I consider it all the same disease: low self-esteem. (Side note: John Lennon became anorexic after reading that he'd gotten a nickname as "the fat Beatle.") I've been busy lately, not making money, unfortunately, but it's nice to be back! 260/230/195 |
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Article: Young, skinny < and obsessed with diets
"MH" wrote in
: "Carol Frilegh" wrote in message ... Young, skinny and obsessed with diets Weight concerns can as early as 14 Fashion, parents take the blameGirls, and some boys too, unduly concerned about weight MARGO VARADI TORONTO STAR (snipped) The simple, horrible truth about anorexia is, if they do not stop the behavior, they will die. It will kill them. And, if they do stop, they still risk suffering from osteoporosis in old age. Anorexia is growing is some parts of the population. It's growing in younger girls and in young gay males. It's a dreadful addiction that is spurned on by our modern media. Martha Not to mention the stress created by our double standards like low-rider pants and fast-food on every corner. |
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Article: Young, skinny < and obsessed with diets
"JMA" wrote in
: "That T Woman" wrote in message ... "Steve" wrote in message ... Carol Frilegh wrote: Young, skinny and obsessed with diets Weight concerns can as early as 14 Fashion, parents take the blameGirls, and some boys too, unduly concerned about weight snip A decade ago this article would have inspired outrage, but that was before obese toddlers and teen agers with type II diabetes. Steve So we should ignore that some teenagers are starving themselves because some toddlers are obese and some teenagers have diabetes? Can't we be outraged about all the extremes? Tonia Well T, I guess anything is better than being fat (or perceived as fat). Skinny kids don't get abused, tormented and bullied, but fat kids sure do. And it has lifelong repercusions. |
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Article: Young, skinny ã and obsessed with diets
Carol Frilegh wrote in
: In article , Steve wrote: Carol Frilegh wrote: Young, skinny ã and obsessed with diets Weight concerns can as early as 14 Fashion, parents take the blameGirls, and some boys too, unduly concerned about weight snip A decade ago this article would have inspired outrage, but that was before obese toddlers and teen agers with type II diabetes. Steve Once there was a little girl named Alice who fell down the rabbit hole and confronted with a door she couldn't get through nibbled one side of a mushroom and got too tall, then ate from the other side and became too small. Moral of the story: be moderate and realistic or eat zucchini instead of mushrooms! You forgot: Watch where you step! |
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Article: Young, skinny and obsessed with diets
OceanView wrote:
Skinny kids don't get abused, tormented and bullied, but fat kids sure do. And it has lifelong repercusions. skinny kids *do* get bullied, they just don't get it for being fat. kids are cruel, and they don't discriminate. if someone is different enough, they'll get picked on whether they're skinny or fat. |
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Article: Young, skinny < and obsessed with diets
"OceanView" wrote in message
... Carol Frilegh wrote in : Young, skinny and obsessed with diets Weight concerns can as early as 14 Fashion, parents take the blameGirls, and some boys too, unduly concerned about weight snipped In spite of the anorexia debate, I can tell you that the disease is not restricted to girls. I went from 6'0 225 at 14 to 6'2" 160 at 17 and still saw myself as fat. I'd had a lifetime of extremes and I consider it all the same disease: low self-esteem. (Side note: John Lennon became anorexic after reading that he'd gotten a nickname as "the fat Beatle.") Are you saying you were anorexic during that period? The numbers don't seem to support that. Losing 65 lbs over the course of 3 years would require a daily deficit of around 210 calories per day - a very reasonable and healthy rate of weight loss. A 6'2" 160 lb 17 year old male has a Body Mass Index of 20.5 (in the Normal Range), and is in the 38th weight percentile based on US averages. So, you were on the low side of normal, but still well above the "Underweight" category. The CDC definition of "Underweight" for adolescents is " 5th percentile" for Body Mass Index. For a 17-year old male, that would require a BMI17.6 (137 lbs at your height). Based on this definition, at 160 lbs, you were still 23 lbs above "Underweight". Perhaps it's one of those "good news/bad news" scenarios...while it's true that you may have suffered from low self-esteem and had an obsession with food during that time, it seems unlikely that you were truly anorexic. GG http://www.WeightWare.com Your Weight and Health Diary I've been busy lately, not making money, unfortunately, but it's nice to be back! 260/230/195 |
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