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Old September 17th, 2004, 03:45 PM
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David wrote:
Yes... of course it's possible. Why anyone would want to do it is
another question. You need a minimum of 120 grams of carbs per day just
to support normal brain and muscle function... let alone run a half
marathon. But sure... it's possible. Some guy in London ran a full
marathon wearing an old fashioned diving suit complete with the huge
brass bell on his head and lead boots. He did it... but I don't imagine
he or his body enjoyed it. Much like running on a low carb diet.

David, you have answered questions about low-carb several times on the
running newsgroup and always you show that you know little about it.

Please, there is enough crap on the internet. If you don't have a clue
about something you are not helping by giving an answer, and most of us
can tell you don't have any accurate or personal information.

Donna
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Old September 17th, 2004, 03:45 PM
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David wrote:
Yes... of course it's possible. Why anyone would want to do it is
another question. You need a minimum of 120 grams of carbs per day just
to support normal brain and muscle function... let alone run a half
marathon. But sure... it's possible. Some guy in London ran a full
marathon wearing an old fashioned diving suit complete with the huge
brass bell on his head and lead boots. He did it... but I don't imagine
he or his body enjoyed it. Much like running on a low carb diet.

David, you have answered questions about low-carb several times on the
running newsgroup and always you show that you know little about it.

Please, there is enough crap on the internet. If you don't have a clue
about something you are not helping by giving an answer, and most of us
can tell you don't have any accurate or personal information.

Donna
  #23  
Old September 17th, 2004, 05:13 PM
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On 2004-09-17, runmum wrote:
David wrote:
Yes... of course it's possible. Why anyone would want to do it is
another question. You need a minimum of 120 grams of carbs per day just
to support normal brain and muscle function... let alone run a half
marathon. But sure... it's possible. Some guy in London ran a full
marathon wearing an old fashioned diving suit complete with the huge
brass bell on his head and lead boots. He did it... but I don't imagine
he or his body enjoyed it. Much like running on a low carb diet.

David, you have answered questions about low-carb several times on the
running newsgroup and always you show that you know little about it.


Most runners aren't experts on low carb diets for similar reasons that
bodybuilders are not experts on low protein diets. Optimal nutrition for
running does not involve consuming low amounts of carbs, and most runners
are able to maintain a healthy weight without a restrictive diet, so the
low carb fad simply doesn't have a role to play in nutrition for runners.

HTH,
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Old September 17th, 2004, 05:33 PM
Donovan Rebbechi
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On 2004-09-17, Ignoramus474 wrote:
In article , Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
On 2004-09-17, runmum wrote:
David wrote:
Yes... of course it's possible. Why anyone would want to do it is
another question. You need a minimum of 120 grams of carbs per day just
to support normal brain and muscle function... let alone run a half
marathon. But sure... it's possible. Some guy in London ran a full
marathon wearing an old fashioned diving suit complete with the huge
brass bell on his head and lead boots. He did it... but I don't imagine
he or his body enjoyed it. Much like running on a low carb diet.

David, you have answered questions about low-carb several times on the
running newsgroup and always you show that you know little about it.


Most runners aren't experts on low carb diets for similar reasons that
bodybuilders are not experts on low protein diets. Optimal nutrition for
running does not involve consuming low amounts of carbs, and most runners
are able to maintain a healthy weight without a restrictive diet, so the
low carb fad simply doesn't have a role to play in nutrition for runners.


Donovan, suppose that you have two runners, runner A and runner B.

Runner A has an objective to win races and, therefore, builds his life
accordingly.

Runner B has an objective to be healthy, maintain good weight, etc,
and runs recreationally, without wanting to win races.

Would you think that these two persons could have different dieting
requirements, and yet both would be running regularly?


I don't see how "low carb" is a "requirement" except for what amounts to
religious regions. For example, why do your dietary requirements prevent
you from taking in carbs prior to a run ? Is it because there is a well
reasoned argument against taking carbs prior to a long run, or is it in
fact because you have succumbed to the dogma of the low carb cult ? If
there is indeed a well reasoned argument against taking carbs prior to a
run, then what is it ?

Runners do not generally have trouble eating at maintenance, even in the
presence of carbs, because they burn more calories than the average couch
potato.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
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Old September 17th, 2004, 05:46 PM
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Ignoramus474 wrote:
:: In article , Donovan Rebbechi
:: wrote:
::: On 2004-09-17, runmum wrote:
:::: David wrote:
::::: Yes... of course it's possible. Why anyone would want to do it is
::::: another question. You need a minimum of 120 grams of carbs per
::::: day just to support normal brain and muscle function... let alone
::::: run a half marathon. But sure... it's possible. Some guy in
::::: London ran a full marathon wearing an old fashioned diving suit
::::: complete with the huge brass bell on his head and lead boots. He
::::: did it... but I don't imagine he or his body enjoyed it. Much
::::: like running on a low carb diet.
:::::
:::: David, you have answered questions about low-carb several times on
:::: the running newsgroup and always you show that you know little
:::: about it.
:::
::: Most runners aren't experts on low carb diets for similar reasons
::: that bodybuilders are not experts on low protein diets. Optimal
::: nutrition for running does not involve consuming low amounts of
::: carbs, and most runners are able to maintain a healthy weight
::: without a restrictive diet, so the low carb fad simply doesn't have
::: a role to play in nutrition for runners.
::
:: Donovan, suppose that you have two runners, runner A and runner B.
::
:: Runner A has an objective to win races and, therefore, builds his
:: life accordingly.
::
:: Runner B has an objective to be healthy, maintain good weight, etc,
:: and runs recreationally, without wanting to win races.
::
:: Would you think that these two persons could have different dieting
:: requirements, and yet both would be running regularly?

Yes, depending on the types of races, especially.


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Old September 17th, 2004, 05:46 PM
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Ignoramus474 wrote:
:: In article , Donovan Rebbechi
:: wrote:
::: On 2004-09-17, runmum wrote:
:::: David wrote:
::::: Yes... of course it's possible. Why anyone would want to do it is
::::: another question. You need a minimum of 120 grams of carbs per
::::: day just to support normal brain and muscle function... let alone
::::: run a half marathon. But sure... it's possible. Some guy in
::::: London ran a full marathon wearing an old fashioned diving suit
::::: complete with the huge brass bell on his head and lead boots. He
::::: did it... but I don't imagine he or his body enjoyed it. Much
::::: like running on a low carb diet.
:::::
:::: David, you have answered questions about low-carb several times on
:::: the running newsgroup and always you show that you know little
:::: about it.
:::
::: Most runners aren't experts on low carb diets for similar reasons
::: that bodybuilders are not experts on low protein diets. Optimal
::: nutrition for running does not involve consuming low amounts of
::: carbs, and most runners are able to maintain a healthy weight
::: without a restrictive diet, so the low carb fad simply doesn't have
::: a role to play in nutrition for runners.
::
:: Donovan, suppose that you have two runners, runner A and runner B.
::
:: Runner A has an objective to win races and, therefore, builds his
:: life accordingly.
::
:: Runner B has an objective to be healthy, maintain good weight, etc,
:: and runs recreationally, without wanting to win races.
::
:: Would you think that these two persons could have different dieting
:: requirements, and yet both would be running regularly?

Yes, depending on the types of races, especially.


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Old September 17th, 2004, 07:15 PM
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 16:33:24 +0000 (UTC), Donovan Rebbechi
wrote:

On 2004-09-17, Ignoramus474 wrote:
In article , Donovan Rebbechi
wrote:
On 2004-09-17, runmum wrote:
David wrote:
Yes... of course it's possible. Why anyone would want to do it is
another question. You need a minimum of 120 grams of carbs per day
just
to support normal brain and muscle function... let alone run a half
marathon. But sure... it's possible. Some guy in London ran a full
marathon wearing an old fashioned diving suit complete with the huge
brass bell on his head and lead boots. He did it... but I don't
imagine
he or his body enjoyed it. Much like running on a low carb diet.

David, you have answered questions about low-carb several times on the
running newsgroup and always you show that you know little about it.

Most runners aren't experts on low carb diets for similar reasons that
bodybuilders are not experts on low protein diets. Optimal nutrition
for
running does not involve consuming low amounts of carbs, and most
runners
are able to maintain a healthy weight without a restrictive diet, so
the
low carb fad simply doesn't have a role to play in nutrition for
runners.


Donovan, suppose that you have two runners, runner A and runner B.

Runner A has an objective to win races and, therefore, builds his life
accordingly.

Runner B has an objective to be healthy, maintain good weight, etc,
and runs recreationally, without wanting to win races.

Would you think that these two persons could have different dieting
requirements, and yet both would be running regularly?


I don't see how "low carb" is a "requirement" except for what amounts to
religious regions. For example, why do your dietary requirements prevent
you from taking in carbs prior to a run ? Is it because there is a well
reasoned argument against taking carbs prior to a long run, or is it in
fact because you have succumbed to the dogma of the low carb cult ? If
there is indeed a well reasoned argument against taking carbs prior to a
run, then what is it ?

Runners do not generally have trouble eating at maintenance, even in the
presence of carbs, because they burn more calories than the average couch
potato.

Cheers,


It's because, for me, the high carb dogma kept me eating huge amounts
(400+) grams of carbs per day even though I was injured. I then developed
insulin resistance and would be a type 2 diabetic, except for low carb. I
went on low carb and I feel so much better than when I was eating a large
amount of carbs per day. Moreover, I have more energy than I did then.
For people predisposed to insulin resistance, high carb is a death
sentence.

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Bob in CT
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Old September 17th, 2004, 08:38 PM
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Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
:: On 2004-09-17, Ignoramus474 wrote:
::: In article , Donovan
::: Rebbechi wrote:
:::: On 2004-09-17, runmum wrote:
::::: David wrote:
:::::: Yes... of course it's possible. Why anyone would want to do it is
:::::: another question. You need a minimum of 120 grams of carbs per
:::::: day just to support normal brain and muscle function... let
:::::: alone run a half marathon. But sure... it's possible. Some guy
:::::: in London ran a full marathon wearing an old fashioned diving
:::::: suit complete with the huge brass bell on his head and lead
:::::: boots. He did it... but I don't imagine he or his body enjoyed
:::::: it. Much like running on a low carb diet.
::::::
::::: David, you have answered questions about low-carb several times
::::: on the running newsgroup and always you show that you know little
::::: about it.
::::
:::: Most runners aren't experts on low carb diets for similar reasons
:::: that bodybuilders are not experts on low protein diets. Optimal
:::: nutrition for running does not involve consuming low amounts of
:::: carbs, and most runners are able to maintain a healthy weight
:::: without a restrictive diet, so the low carb fad simply doesn't
:::: have a role to play in nutrition for runners.
:::
::: Donovan, suppose that you have two runners, runner A and runner B.
:::
::: Runner A has an objective to win races and, therefore, builds his
::: life accordingly.
:::
::: Runner B has an objective to be healthy, maintain good weight, etc,
::: and runs recreationally, without wanting to win races.
:::
::: Would you think that these two persons could have different dieting
::: requirements, and yet both would be running regularly?
::
:: I don't see how "low carb" is a "requirement" except for what
:: amounts to religious regions. For example, why do your dietary
:: requirements prevent you from taking in carbs prior to a run ? Is it
:: because there is a well reasoned argument against taking carbs prior
:: to a long run, or is it in fact because you have succumbed to the
:: dogma of the low carb cult ? If there is indeed a well reasoned
:: argument against taking carbs prior to a run, then what is it ?
::
:: Runners do not generally have trouble eating at maintenance, even in
:: the presence of carbs, because they burn more calories than the
:: average couch potato.

Runners don't have problems eating at maintenance because they burn more
calories than the average couch potato?

PLEASE!


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Old September 17th, 2004, 08:38 PM
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Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
:: On 2004-09-17, Ignoramus474 wrote:
::: In article , Donovan
::: Rebbechi wrote:
:::: On 2004-09-17, runmum wrote:
::::: David wrote:
:::::: Yes... of course it's possible. Why anyone would want to do it is
:::::: another question. You need a minimum of 120 grams of carbs per
:::::: day just to support normal brain and muscle function... let
:::::: alone run a half marathon. But sure... it's possible. Some guy
:::::: in London ran a full marathon wearing an old fashioned diving
:::::: suit complete with the huge brass bell on his head and lead
:::::: boots. He did it... but I don't imagine he or his body enjoyed
:::::: it. Much like running on a low carb diet.
::::::
::::: David, you have answered questions about low-carb several times
::::: on the running newsgroup and always you show that you know little
::::: about it.
::::
:::: Most runners aren't experts on low carb diets for similar reasons
:::: that bodybuilders are not experts on low protein diets. Optimal
:::: nutrition for running does not involve consuming low amounts of
:::: carbs, and most runners are able to maintain a healthy weight
:::: without a restrictive diet, so the low carb fad simply doesn't
:::: have a role to play in nutrition for runners.
:::
::: Donovan, suppose that you have two runners, runner A and runner B.
:::
::: Runner A has an objective to win races and, therefore, builds his
::: life accordingly.
:::
::: Runner B has an objective to be healthy, maintain good weight, etc,
::: and runs recreationally, without wanting to win races.
:::
::: Would you think that these two persons could have different dieting
::: requirements, and yet both would be running regularly?
::
:: I don't see how "low carb" is a "requirement" except for what
:: amounts to religious regions. For example, why do your dietary
:: requirements prevent you from taking in carbs prior to a run ? Is it
:: because there is a well reasoned argument against taking carbs prior
:: to a long run, or is it in fact because you have succumbed to the
:: dogma of the low carb cult ? If there is indeed a well reasoned
:: argument against taking carbs prior to a run, then what is it ?
::
:: Runners do not generally have trouble eating at maintenance, even in
:: the presence of carbs, because they burn more calories than the
:: average couch potato.

Runners don't have problems eating at maintenance because they burn more
calories than the average couch potato?

PLEASE!


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Old September 17th, 2004, 10:27 PM
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On 2004-09-17, Roger Zoul wrote:

:: Runners do not generally have trouble eating at maintenance, even in
:: the presence of carbs, because they burn more calories than the
:: average couch potato.

Runners don't have problems eating at maintenance because they burn more
calories than the average couch potato?

PLEASE!


Well for whatever reason, none of the people in my running club are fat, and
none of them need low carb diets to stay in shape. The fact that their running
burns 3,000-10,000 calories a week might have *something* to do with it, what
do you think ?

Cheers,
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