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Old November 15th, 2006, 08:01 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.fit-for-life,alt.support.diet.low-fat
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WP wrote:
Good diet advice and links for fat, carbos, protein etc. content in
different foods.

http://home.earthlink.net/~fitness_habit/5_Diet.htm


It's overall a good and useful page, but the fats section could be
better. It says, "The American Diabetes Association and the American
Heart Association do recommend that no more than 30 percent of your
calories come from fat". Here are their actual recommendations:


*** American Diabetes Association: Defers to USDA guidelines: 20%-35%
calories from fat, = 10% calories from saturated fat, = 1% calories
from trans fat. It emphasizes trans and saturated fat.

http://www.diabetes.org/for-parents-...guidelines.jsp
http://www.healthierus.gov/dietaryguidelines/index.html


*** American Heart Association: 25%-35% calories from fat (25%-30% if
you're obese), = 7% calories from saturated fat, = 1% calories from
trans fat. It emphasizes trans and saturated fat.

http://www.americanheart.org/present...identifier=851
http://www.americanheart.org/present...dentifier=4764
http://www.americanheart.org/present...dentifier=1510
http://www.americanheart.org/present...identifier=506


Focus on avoiding trans and saturated fats! Eat more monounsaturated
fats--like the kinds in almonds and olive oil--and eat your omega-3
fatty acids daily. When considering overall fat intake, remember
there's both a lower- and upper-bound.

Good luck.

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Old November 15th, 2006, 08:21 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.fit-for-life,alt.support.diet.low-fat
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WP wrote:
Good diet advice and links for fat, carbos, protein etc. content in
different foods.

http://home.earthlink.net/~fitness_habit/5_Diet.htm

It's overall a good and useful page, but the fats section could be
better. It says, "The American Diabetes Association and the American
Heart Association do recommend that no more than 30 percent of your
calories come from fat". Here are their actual recommendations:


*** American Diabetes Association: Defers to USDA guidelines: 20%-35%
calories from fat, = 10% calories from saturated fat, = 1% calories
from trans fat. It emphasizes trans and saturated fat.

http://www.diabetes.org/for-parents-...guidelines.jsp
http://www.healthierus.gov/dietaryguidelines/index.html


*** American Heart Association: 25%-35% calories from fat (25%-30% if
you're obese), = 7% calories from saturated fat, = 1% calories from
trans fat. It emphasizes trans and saturated fat.

http://www.americanheart.org/present...identifier=851
http://www.americanheart.org/present...dentifier=4764
http://www.americanheart.org/present...dentifier=1510
http://www.americanheart.org/present...identifier=506


Focus on avoiding trans and saturated fats! Eat more monounsaturated
fats--like the kinds in almonds and olive oil--and eat your omega-3
fatty acids daily. When considering overall fat intake, remember
there's both a lower- and upper-bound.

Good luck.


You are right. People see the no more than 30% of calories from fat and
think they are OK with that much or worse yet that they NEED that much.
When you actually research how much fat you need, you keep running
across the opinion that you don't have to worry about getting too
little fat, since there is some fat in even fat-free products and those
essential fats people talk about can be eaten in just 3 grams of fat a
day which for a 2,000 cal/day diet is less than 2% fat. You body is
very capable of making fat from protein and carbs. I'm convinced most
overweight people eat far too much fat. If they would cut back on fat,
they get to eat a lot more food, since by weight, fat has 9 cal per
gram but protein and carbs have only 4 calories per gram. That means
you get to eat over twice the amount of food from carbs and protein to
get the same calories as fat....any fat whether it be butter, Crisco,
or the so-called good fats. dkw

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Old November 16th, 2006, 06:02 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.fit-for-life,alt.support.diet.low-fat
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Default Good website for diet and weight loss

wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
WP wrote:
Good diet advice and links for fat, carbos, protein etc. content in
different foods.

http://home.earthlink.net/~fitness_habit/5_Diet.htm

It's overall a good and useful page, but the fats section could be
better. It says, "The American Diabetes Association and the American
Heart Association do recommend that no more than 30 percent of your
calories come from fat". Here are their actual recommendations:


*** American Diabetes Association: Defers to USDA guidelines: 20%-35%
calories from fat, = 10% calories from saturated fat, = 1% calories
from trans fat. It emphasizes trans and saturated fat.

http://www.diabetes.org/for-parents-...guidelines.jsp
http://www.healthierus.gov/dietaryguidelines/index.html


*** American Heart Association: 25%-35% calories from fat (25%-30% if
you're obese), = 7% calories from saturated fat, = 1% calories from
trans fat. It emphasizes trans and saturated fat.

http://www.americanheart.org/present...identifier=851
http://www.americanheart.org/present...dentifier=4764
http://www.americanheart.org/present...dentifier=1510
http://www.americanheart.org/present...identifier=506


Focus on avoiding trans and saturated fats! Eat more monounsaturated
fats--like the kinds in almonds and olive oil--and eat your omega-3
fatty acids daily. When considering overall fat intake, remember
there's both a lower- and upper-bound.

Good luck.


You are right. People see the no more than 30% of calories from fat and
think they are OK with that much or worse yet that they NEED that much.
When you actually research how much fat you need, you keep running
across the opinion that you don't have to worry about getting too
little fat, since there is some fat in even fat-free products and those
essential fats people talk about can be eaten in just 3 grams of fat a
day which for a 2,000 cal/day diet is less than 2% fat. You body is
very capable of making fat from protein and carbs. I'm convinced most
overweight people eat far too much fat. If they would cut back on fat,
they get to eat a lot more food, since by weight, fat has 9 cal per
gram but protein and carbs have only 4 calories per gram. That means
you get to eat over twice the amount of food from carbs and protein to
get the same calories as fat....any fat whether it be butter, Crisco,
or the so-called good fats. dkw


Yabbut ---

Aren't there are important difference between good fat (EFAs, unsaturated
fats, whatever) and bad fats (red meat, saturated fats, hydrogenated fats,
transfats, whatever)? By definition, hydrogenated fats are not useful
because they don't have any availability for processing nutrients; they're
stored very easily as the body's "first choice" for body fat, because
there's not much else the body can do with them.

In contrast, EFA's have plenty of chemical availability -- if you draw a
molecular diagram of them, they have all kinds of dangly ends just waiting
to snag onto fat-soluble vitamins, proteins, and other nutrients. EFAs are
the body's among the last choices to store as body fat, because the body has
so many other uses for them.

http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/displayarticle.php?aid=33

I mean, c'mon, Crisco is a disaster, dietarily speaking. Hydrogenated fats
like that are good for only one thing: storage -- both on the shelf and on
the hips.

ep


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Old November 16th, 2006, 07:32 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.fit-for-life,alt.support.diet.low-fat
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Edna Pearl wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
WP wrote:
Good diet advice and links for fat, carbos, protein etc. content in
different foods.

http://home.earthlink.net/~fitness_habit/5_Diet.htm

It's overall a good and useful page, but the fats section could be
better. It says, "The American Diabetes Association and the American
Heart Association do recommend that no more than 30 percent of your
calories come from fat". Here are their actual recommendations:


*** American Diabetes Association: Defers to USDA guidelines: 20%-35%
calories from fat, = 10% calories from saturated fat, = 1% calories
from trans fat. It emphasizes trans and saturated fat.

http://www.diabetes.org/for-parents-...guidelines.jsp
http://www.healthierus.gov/dietaryguidelines/index.html


*** American Heart Association: 25%-35% calories from fat (25%-30% if
you're obese), = 7% calories from saturated fat, = 1% calories from
trans fat. It emphasizes trans and saturated fat.

http://www.americanheart.org/present...identifier=851
http://www.americanheart.org/present...dentifier=4764
http://www.americanheart.org/present...dentifier=1510
http://www.americanheart.org/present...identifier=506


Focus on avoiding trans and saturated fats! Eat more monounsaturated
fats--like the kinds in almonds and olive oil--and eat your omega-3
fatty acids daily. When considering overall fat intake, remember
there's both a lower- and upper-bound.

Good luck.


You are right. People see the no more than 30% of calories from fat and
think they are OK with that much or worse yet that they NEED that much.
When you actually research how much fat you need, you keep running
across the opinion that you don't have to worry about getting too
little fat, since there is some fat in even fat-free products and those
essential fats people talk about can be eaten in just 3 grams of fat a
day which for a 2,000 cal/day diet is less than 2% fat. You body is
very capable of making fat from protein and carbs. I'm convinced most
overweight people eat far too much fat. If they would cut back on fat,
they get to eat a lot more food, since by weight, fat has 9 cal per
gram but protein and carbs have only 4 calories per gram. That means
you get to eat over twice the amount of food from carbs and protein to
get the same calories as fat....any fat whether it be butter, Crisco,
or the so-called good fats. dkw


Yabbut ---

Aren't there are important difference between good fat (EFAs, unsaturated
fats, whatever) and bad fats (red meat, saturated fats, hydrogenated fats,
transfats, whatever)? By definition, hydrogenated fats are not useful
because they don't have any availability for processing nutrients; they're
stored very easily as the body's "first choice" for body fat, because
there's not much else the body can do with them.

In contrast, EFA's have plenty of chemical availability -- if you draw a
molecular diagram of them, they have all kinds of dangly ends just waiting
to snag onto fat-soluble vitamins, proteins, and other nutrients. EFAs are
the body's among the last choices to store as body fat, because the body has
so many other uses for them.

http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/displayarticle.php?aid=33

I mean, c'mon, Crisco is a disaster, dietarily speaking. Hydrogenated fats
like that are good for only one thing: storage -- both on the shelf and on
the hips.

ep


Right. But for dieters fats are fats. Even good ones add the weight
like crazy. dkw

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Old November 16th, 2006, 09:13 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.fit-for-life,alt.support.diet.low-fat
Edna Pearl
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Default Good website for diet and weight loss

wrote in message
oups.com...
Right. But for dieters fats are fats. Even good ones add the weight
like crazy. dkw


Weeeelllllllll, not exactly, I don't think.

Yes, fats have calories. Of course. But calories aren't the whole picture.
And people do, in fact *need* EFAs, and furthermore we need *adequate* EFA's
if we want to keep our health and all aspects thereof -- including optimum
calorie utilization, muscle building, overall fitness, immune system
strength, etc., etc.

In contrast, people do *not* need *any* transfats for for optimum health.

F'rinstance, just as a basic illustration, if I do regular resistance
training (e.g., weight-lifting), and every time I lift I eat good fats
(EFAs) in combination with other vital nutrients, my body is going to use
the EFAs to use the nutrients and build muscle, which muscle will, in turn,
burn calories (even while I'm not using those muscles and am just, say,
sitting in front of the TV doing needlepoint). And my growing muscles and
the added nutrients will give me energy and strength to go on with my active
day.

In contrast, if every time I lift I eat bad fats, those fats are going to be
stored as body fat, and my body is likely to burn its own muscle to access
the calories my body needs to recover from the lifting and go on with my
day. I'll get that much weaker and I'll have that much less energy for an
active, healthy lifestyle, and I"ll be carrying that much more fat.

This is really important to overall fitness *and* weight-loss. Muscle cells
really are basically the kind of "magical fat burning cells!!!!" that
late-night TV info-mercials make us all dream of having, and eating adequate
EFAs are an essential part of muscle-building. In contrast, you cannot
expect to optimize your health or fitness levels by simply counting
calories. That kind of thinking isn't any more helpful than relying on
strategies like, "If I don't eat the Cheetos now then I'll have calories to
spare so I can eat a hot dog later." This just doesn't work for fat-loss or
fitness.

I don't think we can ever read Krista's site enough, so I'll link to it
again -- a different page from the one I linked to befo
http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/displaysection.php?sid=4

ep


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Old November 16th, 2006, 09:20 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.fit-for-life,alt.support.diet.low-fat
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Edna Pearl wrote:

I don't think we can ever read Krista's site enough, so I'll link to it
again -- a different page from the one I linked to befo
http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/displaysection.php?sid=4


That's really cute, and also motivating! My daughter loves to play
airplane, but right now I can only do it for a couple minutes.

335/326/215

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Old November 17th, 2006, 02:47 AM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.fit-for-life,alt.support.diet.low-fat
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Edna Pearl wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
Right. But for dieters fats are fats. Even good ones add the weight
like crazy. dkw


Weeeelllllllll, not exactly, I don't think.

Yes, fats have calories. Of course. But calories aren't the whole picture.
And people do, in fact *need* EFAs, and furthermore we need *adequate* EFA's
if we want to keep our health and all aspects thereof -- including optimum
calorie utilization, muscle building, overall fitness, immune system
strength, etc., etc.

In contrast, people do *not* need *any* transfats for for optimum health.

F'rinstance, just as a basic illustration, if I do regular resistance
training (e.g., weight-lifting), and every time I lift I eat good fats
(EFAs) in combination with other vital nutrients, my body is going to use
the EFAs to use the nutrients and build muscle, which muscle will, in turn,
burn calories (even while I'm not using those muscles and am just, say,
sitting in front of the TV doing needlepoint). And my growing muscles and
the added nutrients will give me energy and strength to go on with my active
day.

In contrast, if every time I lift I eat bad fats, those fats are going to be
stored as body fat, and my body is likely to burn its own muscle to access
the calories my body needs to recover from the lifting and go on with my
day. I'll get that much weaker and I'll have that much less energy for an
active, healthy lifestyle, and I"ll be carrying that much more fat.

This is really important to overall fitness *and* weight-loss. Muscle cells
really are basically the kind of "magical fat burning cells!!!!" that
late-night TV info-mercials make us all dream of having, and eating adequate
EFAs are an essential part of muscle-building. In contrast, you cannot
expect to optimize your health or fitness levels by simply counting
calories. That kind of thinking isn't any more helpful than relying on
strategies like, "If I don't eat the Cheetos now then I'll have calories to
spare so I can eat a hot dog later." This just doesn't work for fat-loss or
fitness.

I don't think we can ever read Krista's site enough, so I'll link to it
again -- a different page from the one I linked to befo
http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/displaysection.php?sid=4

ep


I think calories ARE the whole story. dkw

 




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