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Old November 4th, 2003, 09:17 PM
vivalife
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Hi my name is Georges and i want to ask you some advice for a problem that i
have
in the past i have lost many kgr with a hard diet
and now my skin is flabby and in bad condition
i ve done a lot of running and my skin become a little better
before one month i was 63 kgr ,i am 1.70 tall but for one month i was at bed
because i broke my hand and for one month i was at bed without doing a step
also ate a lot of junk food no moving at all,so now i am again 75kgr
now the problem with my hand finished,i am out of bed and i can move again
so i can start again running and gym
i want to loose again the kgr that i earned this month and i want to ask you
to give me some advice which diet is better to continue
i do not eat meat ,fish
i want to give me some advice which diet is better to follow or any other
suggestions for any other diet you think that help me to loose the kgr
without having more flabby skin
the first choice that i am thinking is to eat many carbo ,vegetables
,fruits and minimize the fat as much as i can for example potatoes without
oil,spaggeti without heavy (much fat)saucem,rice,etc
the second choice is to eat not carbo not fat to eat only vegetables and
pulse like beans,lentil and tomatoes,etc
which diet is better for my condition?
do you think that is good to minimize fat as much as i can?
also at what pace is good to loose theese kgr?
do you think that is good to loose one kgr every week more or less i want
here to write you again that i am runner and generally do a lot of gym every
day also i ride a bike
thanks in advance
georges
PS:Sorry for my english but is not my native language
--
Georges (ICQ number135089584)


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Old November 4th, 2003, 10:14 PM
That T Woman
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"vivalife" wrote in message
...
Hi my name is Georges and i want to ask you some advice for a problem that

i
have
in the past i have lost many kgr with a hard diet
and now my skin is flabby and in bad condition
i ve done a lot of running and my skin become a little better
before one month i was 63 kgr ,i am 1.70 tall but for one month i was at

bed
because i broke my hand and for one month i was at bed without doing a

step
also ate a lot of junk food no moving at all,so now i am again 75kgr now

the problem with my hand finished,i am out of bed and i can move again so
i can start again running and gym


OK, let me see if I understand this. You broke your *hand*, the thing with
fingers that's at the end of your arm which is attached to your shoulders,
and you had to stay in bed for a month. How did a broken hand keep you from
moving at all. Do you walk on your hands? I"m sorry if this sounds rude
but that doesn't make sense, Georges! Many years ago I broke my left wrist
and it was painful but I continued all my other normal activities -- I just
couldn't do them with my left hand/wrist.


i want to loose again the kgr that i earned this month and i want to ask

you
to give me some advice which diet is better to continue
i do not eat meat ,fish
i want to give me some advice which diet is better to follow or any other
suggestions for any other diet you think that help me to loose the kgr
without having more flabby skin
the first choice that i am thinking is to eat many carbo ,vegetables
,fruits and minimize the fat as much as i can for example potatoes without
oil,spaggeti without heavy (much fat)saucem,rice,etc
the second choice is to eat not carbo not fat to eat only vegetables and
pulse like beans,lentil and tomatoes,etc
which diet is better for my condition?
do you think that is good to minimize fat as much as i can?
also at what pace is good to loose theese kgr?
do you think that is good to loose one kgr every week more or less i want
here to write you again that i am runner and generally do a lot of gym

every
day also i ride a bike
thanks in advance
georges
PS:Sorry for my english but is not my native language
--
Georges (ICQ number135089584)


Someone in this group used to post a link to a website that was about a
low-carb vegetarian diet. I've changed computers and don't have all my old
book-marked sites from when I participated in this group last year. If
anyone still has that link (if the site isn't 404) I like to look at it
again, myself and I think it might help Georges.

Tonia


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Old November 4th, 2003, 10:43 PM
Beverly
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"vivalife" wrote in message
...
Hi my name is Georges and i want to ask you some advice for a problem

that i
have
in the past i have lost many kgr with a hard diet
and now my skin is flabby and in bad condition
i ve done a lot of running and my skin become a little better
before one month i was 63 kgr ,i am 1.70 tall but for one month i was at

bed
because i broke my hand and for one month i was at bed without doing a

step
also ate a lot of junk food no moving at all,so now i am again 75kgr
now the problem with my hand finished,i am out of bed and i can move

again
so i can start again running and gym
i want to loose again the kgr that i earned this month and i want to ask

you
to give me some advice which diet is better to continue
i do not eat meat ,fish
i want to give me some advice which diet is better to follow or any

other
suggestions for any other diet you think that help me to loose the kgr
without having more flabby skin
the first choice that i am thinking is to eat many carbo ,vegetables
,fruits and minimize the fat as much as i can for example potatoes

without
oil,spaggeti without heavy (much fat)saucem,rice,etc
the second choice is to eat not carbo not fat to eat only vegetables and
pulse like beans,lentil and tomatoes,etc
which diet is better for my condition?
do you think that is good to minimize fat as much as i can?
also at what pace is good to loose theese kgr?
do you think that is good to loose one kgr every week more or less i want
here to write you again that i am runner and generally do a lot of gym

every
day also i ride a bike
thanks in advance
georges
PS:Sorry for my english but is not my native language
--
Georges (ICQ number135089584)



Welcome Georges.

If I've converted the numbers correctly you went from 75kgr (165 pounds) to
63kgr (138 pounds) and you're 1.70 (5 feet 5 inches). How long did it take
you to lose the weight? Sorry but I wasn't sure if it took you one month
or longer. A safe and recommended weight loss is 1 -2 pounds (.5 to 1 kgr)
a week. Anything faster and you might be losing more muscle than fat.
Many in the group recommend 10 x current weight as the level of calories
need to lose weight. For example: 165 pounds x 10 = 1650 calories per day.

The running, working out at gym and bike riding are good exercises for
weight loss and should help prevent muscle loss. Be sure to keep up the
exercise.

It isn't necessary to cut carbs from your diet. Just make sure to choose
carbs from vegetables and whole grains. Here's a site about low-carb
vegetarian diets. Do a search and you'll find many others that might offer
information.
http://www.immuneweb.org/lowcarb/

This is a great group for information and support. Just keep posting and
asking questions.

Beverly



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Old November 4th, 2003, 11:39 PM
Patricia Heil
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S'ok your English is probably better than the Spanish I
recently used to find the artist who sings a song I like
a lot.

Anyway you should be able to lose the weight with at least
a half hour of exercise to start with, and work up to a full
hour, which is what the Surgeon General here in the US
recommends. Keep the fat low in your eating program and
get lots of veg, fruit, whole grains (brown rice, brown flour),
and dried beans/split peas/lentils. That will take care of
your fiber.

On the other hand, you need to work with your doctor and make
sure you are getting enough iron and vitamin B12. The human
body absorbs these best from animal products. Without them
you will become anemic.

vivalife wrote:

Hi my name is Georges and i want to ask you some advice for a problem that i
have
in the past i have lost many kgr with a hard diet
and now my skin is flabby and in bad condition
i ve done a lot of running and my skin become a little better
before one month i was 63 kgr ,i am 1.70 tall but for one month i was at bed
because i broke my hand and for one month i was at bed without doing a step
also ate a lot of junk food no moving at all,so now i am again 75kgr
now the problem with my hand finished,i am out of bed and i can move again
so i can start again running and gym
i want to loose again the kgr that i earned this month and i want to ask you
to give me some advice which diet is better to continue
i do not eat meat ,fish
i want to give me some advice which diet is better to follow or any other
suggestions for any other diet you think that help me to loose the kgr
without having more flabby skin
the first choice that i am thinking is to eat many carbo ,vegetables
,fruits and minimize the fat as much as i can for example potatoes without
oil,spaggeti without heavy (much fat)saucem,rice,etc
the second choice is to eat not carbo not fat to eat only vegetables and
pulse like beans,lentil and tomatoes,etc
which diet is better for my condition?
do you think that is good to minimize fat as much as i can?
also at what pace is good to loose theese kgr?
do you think that is good to loose one kgr every week more or less i want
here to write you again that i am runner and generally do a lot of gym every
day also i ride a bike
thanks in advance
georges
PS:Sorry for my english but is not my native language
--
Georges (ICQ number135089584)

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Old November 5th, 2003, 08:41 AM
vivalife
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Hi again
thanks a lot of your advice and sorry if i drive you hard with my english
but is not my native language and i do not speak them well
Anyways,this time i tried hard with the dictionnary and i think the result
is better to give you understand what is my problem and give me some advice
in the past i was very fat i have done a strict diet and loose many pounds
fast,so my skin became flabby
finnaly i went to 138 pounds
now after an accident that i have i stayed at bed a month without moving
only watch TV and ate junk food with much fat and take some pounds again, i
become 165 pounds
I want to loose again these pounds but i do not want to be my skin flabby(is
allready flabby from the strict diet that i have done in the past) and i am
thinking to do one of the follows two diets
1)eat food without carbs and fat and sugar
or
2)eat food with many carbs but no sugar no fat like potatoes,rice ,etc
which of these two types of diet you think is better for my problem?
also because gennerally i do much gym ,3-4 hours every day and everywhere i
am going riding a bike do you think that i will be good to loose the pounds
to a pace 3-4 pounds a week?
any other advice not to be my skin more flabby from this new diet
well,thanks again for your old advice and thanks in advance for your new
suggestions
also keep the good work to this newsgroup which are very usefull
georges

--
Georges (ICQ number135089584)

"vivalife" wrote in message
...
Hi my name is Georges and i want to ask you some advice for a problem that

i
have
in the past i have lost many kgr with a hard diet
and now my skin is flabby and in bad condition
i ve done a lot of running and my skin become a little better
before one month i was 63 kgr ,i am 1.70 tall but for one month i was at

bed
because i broke my hand and for one month i was at bed without doing a

step
also ate a lot of junk food no moving at all,so now i am again 75kgr
now the problem with my hand finished,i am out of bed and i can move again
so i can start again running and gym
i want to loose again the kgr that i earned this month and i want to ask

you
to give me some advice which diet is better to continue
i do not eat meat ,fish
i want to give me some advice which diet is better to follow or any other
suggestions for any other diet you think that help me to loose the kgr
without having more flabby skin
the first choice that i am thinking is to eat many carbo ,vegetables
,fruits and minimize the fat as much as i can for example potatoes without
oil,spaggeti without heavy (much fat)saucem,rice,etc
the second choice is to eat not carbo not fat to eat only vegetables and
pulse like beans,lentil and tomatoes,etc
which diet is better for my condition?
do you think that is good to minimize fat as much as i can?
also at what pace is good to loose theese kgr?
do you think that is good to loose one kgr every week more or less i want
here to write you again that i am runner and generally do a lot of gym

every
day also i ride a bike
thanks in advance
georges
PS:Sorry for my english but is not my native language
--
Georges (ICQ number135089584)



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Old November 5th, 2003, 12:49 PM
DrumLib
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"vivalife" wrote in message ...

in the past i was very fat i have done a strict diet and loose many pounds
fast,so my skin became flabby


If you lost a lot of weight, your skin may have lost its elasticity.
Is it like there is the solid part of your stomach, but the skin is
like an overly large sweat shirt? Almost like it's not connected to
the solid part? Does it fold over? If this sounds familiar, and the
condition persists, I would talk to my doctor about it. He will
probably refer you to a plastic surgeon that can remove the excess
skin. It's not as bad as it sounds: the end result is a flat stomach
with a very thin scar at the bikini line. Big improvement.

I don't mean to alarm you; your skin may tighten up on its own. It
depends on how much you weighed, how long you were heavy, your age,
etc. But I've been in that situation, and I know what a bummer it is
to lose a lot of weight and still not be DONE! I don't want you to get
ripped off by quacks selling expensive miracle lotions, back-to-nature
cure all diets, fasts, etc. Ask them for medical references before you
give them a penny, and watch them run for the door :-)

Live Long and Prosper!
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Old November 5th, 2003, 04:24 PM
That T Woman
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"vivalife" wrote in message
...
Hi again
thanks a lot of your advice and sorry if i drive you hard with my english
but is not my native language and i do not speak them well
Anyways,this time i tried hard with the dictionnary and i think the result
is better to give you understand what is my problem and give me some

advice
in the past i was very fat i have done a strict diet and loose many

pounds
fast,so my skin became flabby
finnaly i went to 138 pounds
now after an accident that i have i stayed at bed a month without moving
only watch TV and ate junk food with much fat and take some pounds again,

i

If it was that serious an accident that you had to be bed-ridden for a whole
month then you should be under the care of a physician. Are you working
with a physical therapist? Have you sought their advice as to what you
should be doing? You should discuss all your concerns with your doctor.
He/she can tell you what you should be doing much better than anonymous
people on the internet can do, especially since I or the others don't know
the real extent of any injuries and how that has to be dealt with in
designing an exercise program for you.


become 165 pounds
I want to loose again these pounds but i do not want to be my skin

flabby(is
allready flabby from the strict diet that i have done in the past) and i

am
thinking to do one of the follows two diets
1)eat food without carbs and fat and sugar
or
2)eat food with many carbs but no sugar no fat like potatoes,rice ,etc
which of these two types of diet you think is better for my problem?
also because gennerally i do much gym ,3-4 hours every day and everywhere

i
am going riding a bike do you think that i will be good to loose the

pounds
to a pace 3-4 pounds a week?



If you can do *that much* exercise then I think if you keep watch over your
food consumption, don't consume massive quantities of "good" food and avoid
"junk" food (such as potato chips, I think the British call them crisps)
then be patient and you will lose the weight and provided you aren't an
elderly person, the skin flabbiness will take care of itself.

any other advice not to be my skin more flabby from this new diet
well,thanks again for your old advice and thanks in advance for your new
suggestions
also keep the good work to this newsgroup which are very usefull
georges

--
Georges (ICQ number135089584)

"vivalife" wrote in message
...
Hi my name is Georges and i want to ask you some advice for a problem

that
i
have
in the past i have lost many kgr with a hard diet
and now my skin is flabby and in bad condition
i ve done a lot of running and my skin become a little better
before one month i was 63 kgr ,i am 1.70 tall but for one month i was at

bed
because i broke my hand and for one month i was at bed without doing a

step
also ate a lot of junk food no moving at all,so now i am again 75kgr
now the problem with my hand finished,i am out of bed and i can move

again
so i can start again running and gym
i want to loose again the kgr that i earned this month and i want to ask

you
to give me some advice which diet is better to continue
i do not eat meat ,fish
i want to give me some advice which diet is better to follow or any

other
suggestions for any other diet you think that help me to loose the kgr
without having more flabby skin
the first choice that i am thinking is to eat many carbo ,vegetables
,fruits and minimize the fat as much as i can for example potatoes

without
oil,spaggeti without heavy (much fat)saucem,rice,etc
the second choice is to eat not carbo not fat to eat only vegetables and
pulse like beans,lentil and tomatoes,etc
which diet is better for my condition?
do you think that is good to minimize fat as much as i can?
also at what pace is good to loose theese kgr?
do you think that is good to loose one kgr every week more or less i

want
here to write you again that i am runner and generally do a lot of gym

every
day also i ride a bike
thanks in advance
georges
PS:Sorry for my english but is not my native language
--
Georges (ICQ number135089584)





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Old November 5th, 2003, 07:43 PM
Wendy
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vivalife wrote:
i am thinking to do one of the follows two diets
1)eat food without carbs and fat and sugar
or
2)eat food with many carbs but no sugar no fat like potatoes,rice ,etc
which of these two types of diet you think is better for my problem?


If I were you I'd try to get 1/3 of your calories from each of the
following:

unsaturated fats like nut oils & fish oils, (not butter or margarine or
corn oil or shortening or animal fats)

high fiber complex carbs like vegetables and whole grains (not white
potatoes, white rice, white bread, or pasta)

lean protein sources like chicken breasts & turkey & fish & protein
powders & soy products & beans

I also recommend you log your foods at www.fitday.com, it will show you
how many calories you are currently eating and where those calories come
from, i..e, percentages from fat/protein/carb.

also because gennerally i do much gym ,3-4 hours every day and everywhere i
am going riding a bike do you think that i will be good to loose the pounds
to a pace 3-4 pounds a week?


No, that is too fast. One of the things you need to be doing with this
diet is retraining yourself to eat like this for the rest of your life. A
good idea would be to figure out the amount of calories you will need to
be eating every day in maintenance at your goal weight and then start
eating that way now. It will be a slow weight loss but it will preserve
the most muscle mass and teach you how to handle maintenance once you get
there. (Obviously a lesson you could use!) :-)

Must you exercise that much? It doesn't sound sustainable to me.

any other advice not to be my skin more flabby from this new diet


You need to treat your flabby skin from the inside: eat fish oils &
flaxseed and drink lots of water. Also protect your skin from the sun &
wind with sunscreen and clothing (and don't use a tanning salon.) With
lots of healthy fats and water and exercise your skin will begin to shrink
to fit the new you - it just takes forever. That's okay, you're going to
be with your skin for a long time. You've got time to work on it.

Are you a man or a woman? What is your age? What is your native
language?

Wendy
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Old November 7th, 2003, 08:00 AM
vivalife
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Thanks all the members for the useful advice
georges

--
Georges (ICQ number135089584)

"vivalife" wrote in message
...
Hi my name is Georges and i want to ask you some advice for a problem that

i
have
in the past i have lost many kgr with a hard diet
and now my skin is flabby and in bad condition
i ve done a lot of running and my skin become a little better
before one month i was 63 kgr ,i am 1.70 tall but for one month i was at

bed
because i broke my hand and for one month i was at bed without doing a

step
also ate a lot of junk food no moving at all,so now i am again 75kgr
now the problem with my hand finished,i am out of bed and i can move again
so i can start again running and gym
i want to loose again the kgr that i earned this month and i want to ask

you
to give me some advice which diet is better to continue
i do not eat meat ,fish
i want to give me some advice which diet is better to follow or any other
suggestions for any other diet you think that help me to loose the kgr
without having more flabby skin
the first choice that i am thinking is to eat many carbo ,vegetables
,fruits and minimize the fat as much as i can for example potatoes without
oil,spaggeti without heavy (much fat)saucem,rice,etc
the second choice is to eat not carbo not fat to eat only vegetables and
pulse like beans,lentil and tomatoes,etc
which diet is better for my condition?
do you think that is good to minimize fat as much as i can?
also at what pace is good to loose theese kgr?
do you think that is good to loose one kgr every week more or less i want
here to write you again that i am runner and generally do a lot of gym

every
day also i ride a bike
thanks in advance
georges
PS:Sorry for my english but is not my native language
--
Georges (ICQ number135089584)



 




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