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Lastly, who in their right mind would want to be a slave to a calorie counting regimen in the first place? On Sat, 22 May 2004 10:31:44 +0900, Doug Lerner wrote: Disagree. Counting calories is generally more accurate than counting carbs. This is not really the most important point to be made here, but it is generally accepted that carb counts typically have widely different values (like varying by 25% or more) because of the way they are measured. Basically carbs are measured by subtracting everything else that can be measured directly, like fat and protein. Plus there are all these controversies about which carbs "really count" and which ones don't, such as sugar alcohols, glycerin, etc. Calories are measured to great accuracy. Incorrect unless you own a lab and a bomb calorimeter. As far as whether or not calorie counting provides a useful yardstick for predicting weight loss or gain - calories provide the ONLY accurate yardstick for such predicting. Incorrect. Whether you can stick to low-calories is a separate matter from whether it is biophysically correct or not. If you can control your hunger by adding in low-carbs you can stick with it. Accepting hunger as a situation that does not need satiation is more important than satiating it. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960222.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. |
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Counting Carbs and Calories?
On 5/22/04 2:19 PM, in article ,
"Mosaic M_uns" wrote: Calories are measured to great accuracy. Incorrect unless you own a lab and a bomb calorimeter. Or can read. http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/ As far as whether or not calorie counting provides a useful yardstick for predicting weight loss or gain - calories provide the ONLY accurate yardstick for such predicting. Incorrect. Do you also think conservation of energy is incorrect? If so, we are talking in two completely different realms of reality. Whether you can stick to low-calories is a separate matter from whether it is biophysically correct or not. If you can control your hunger by adding in low-carbs you can stick with it. Accepting hunger as a situation that does not need satiation is more important than satiating it. Please re-read my paragraph above. I said you could use low-carbs as a way of controlling hunger. That way you can also stick to a diet that will help you lose weight - reducing calories. doug |
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Counting Carbs and Calories?
What you are neglecting to mention is that you are comparing a diet
which PROMOTES fat storage and hunger (i.e. the insulin spiking carb heavy low fat diet) with a diet that promotes fat burning & physical cannibalization (i.e. the insulin normalizing, glucagon elevating low carb diet) On an insulin spiking diet you want to eat and eat and eat because insulin screams at you to put fuel in the tank. The natural instincts on this sort of diet is to GAIN weight, which is why weight gain is what happens when careful calorie counting ceases. On a low carb diet you want to eat very little because our bodies are really good at opening up the pantry (aka our big fat *sses) and pulling out a snack instead . Our natural instincts on a low carb diet is to MAINTAING weight - or if very obese due to years of an unnatural insulin spiking diet - lose weight. This difference between a natural desire to GAIN and a natural desire to MAINTAIN OR LOSE is very important. Counting calories is a good tool to employ for quicker weight loss, however if your dietary composition does not favor weight maintenence, you will regain weight. This is why counting calories has a traditionally high failure rate. However, counting calories + low carb is very, very effective. You get the best of both worlds - faster losses & natural weight maintenence. I've lost over 140 pounds using this method. I count calories to lose, but my body naturally wants to maintain whatever weight I am. I cannot physically eat beyond that point, I feel sick and do not desire food. That's the LC magic. Yes when you are very overweight you might not need to count calories at all; when I was very heavy I found my appetite even smaller than it is now (because I had a huge surplus of fat my body had unnaturally stored due to my insulin-spiking carb-heavy diet before, and it wanted to burn off all the fat preferentially to eating food from environment). However, modest overweight is much harder to deal with & eliminate w/o counting calories. But, like I said, unless you take your weight to an unnaturally low point for you, the body naturally wants to maintain its weight when eating a low carb diet so calorie counting to lose + low carb to maintain is ideal. (tcomeau) wrote in message . com... "Jim Bard" wrote in message ... "tcomeau" wrote in message om... Counting calories is neither needed nor is it even remotely useful as a yardstick to predict weight gain or loss. TC Right. And counting the gallons of gas I put in my tank is neither needed nor is it even remotely useful for figuring out my gas mileage. More than 95% of those who try to lose weight by restricting and counting calories (ie. fat) fail to lose the weight and keep it off. Hardly a dependable approach to weight loss. TC |
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