Moderately High Cholesterol and Liver Readings..but not too overweight

GT,

Some early stage kidney problems and a condition called "fatty liver" can be
improved by low carbing though for addressing fatty liver, you really should
be on Metformin which reduces insulin resistance and has been shown to
reverse the condition.

But if your liver problem comes from hepatitis diet won't reverse it and
delaying in the hopes that it will could be fatal..

-- Jenny

168.5/137

Low Carb 9/1998 - 8/2001 and 11/10/02 - Now

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How to calculate your need for protein * How much people really lose each
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* Characteristics of Successful Dieters * Indispensible Low Carb Treats *
Should You Count that Low Impact Carb? * Curing Ketobreath * Exercise
Starting from Zero * NEW! Do Starch Blockers Work?


"GT" wrote in message
...

"Jenny" wrote in message
...
Cholesterol is one thing . Abnormal liver enzymes are quite another. If
your
liver enzymes are ugly, you most definitely need to talk to the doctor
as
this is a sign that your liver might be failing or that you have a
serious
disease like hepatitis.

Total cholesterol may go down on a low carb diet, or it may not. Your
ratios
should improve and your triglicerides most certainly will drop.

However, low carbing will not correct liver failure. Talk to your
doctor!

Actually, it does mention in the Atkins book that both Liver and Kidney
function CAN be corrected (or at least improved, I can't remember the
wording in the book), by Low Carbing. Not sure what is going on with the
liver, but the doctor didn't seem overly concerned....but I will find out
when I meet with him next week.

GT

On 24 Sep 2003 15:20:24 -0700, in a clarity of expression resembling
Cicero, (Chet Hayes) wrote:

Total chol of 95 and your taking a chol cocktail? What is a chol
cocktail? I've never seen total chol that low. Why would anyone be
on chol drugs with a total chol number of 133 or 95? What are your
other numbers?
There have been some studies done that showed people with chol that is
very low have a higher death rate than those with high chol.

I'm on Lipitor, Niaspan, and Avapro.
good c = 29, bad c = 48, trig = 90

Frank Lynch
The Samuel Johnson Sound Bite Page is at:
http://www.samueljohnson.com/

Thanks for the concern and advice Jenny. I think I have been checked for
everything, including hepatitis..I remember seeing that box checked off on
the blood work sheet. . Everything checks out OK. I think it's just the
"fatty liver" you are referring to....I'll know next week for sure.

GT


"Jenny" wrote in message
...
GT,

Some early stage kidney problems and a condition called "fatty liver" can
be
improved by low carbing though for addressing fatty liver, you really
should
be on Metformin which reduces insulin resistance and has been shown to
reverse the condition.

But if your liver problem comes from hepatitis diet won't reverse it and
delaying in the hopes that it will could be fatal..

-- Jenny

168.5/137

Low Carb 9/1998 - 8/2001 and 11/10/02 - Now

http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean
How to calculate your need for protein * How much people really lose each
month * Water Weight Gain & Loss * The "Two Gram Cure" for Hunger
Cravings
* Characteristics of Successful Dieters * Indispensible Low Carb Treats *
Should You Count that Low Impact Carb? * Curing Ketobreath * Exercise
Starting from Zero * NEW! Do Starch Blockers Work?


"GT" wrote in message
...

"Jenny" wrote in message
...
Cholesterol is one thing . Abnormal liver enzymes are quite another.
If
your
liver enzymes are ugly, you most definitely need to talk to the doctor
as
this is a sign that your liver might be failing or that you have a
serious
disease like hepatitis.

Total cholesterol may go down on a low carb diet, or it may not. Your
ratios
should improve and your triglicerides most certainly will drop.

However, low carbing will not correct liver failure. Talk to your
doctor!

Actually, it does mention in the Atkins book that both Liver and Kidney
function CAN be corrected (or at least improved, I can't remember the
wording in the book), by Low Carbing. Not sure what is going on with
the
liver, but the doctor didn't seem overly concerned....but I will find
out
when I meet with him next week.

GT

Frank Lynch wrote in message . ..
On 24 Sep 2003 15:20:24 -0700, in a clarity of expression resembling
Cicero, (Chet Hayes) wrote:

Total chol of 95 and your taking a chol cocktail? What is a chol
cocktail? I've never seen total chol that low. Why would anyone be
on chol drugs with a total chol number of 133 or 95? What are your
other numbers?
There have been some studies done that showed people with chol that is
very low have a higher death rate than those with high chol.

I'm on Lipitor, Niaspan, and Avapro.
good c = 29, bad c = 48, trig = 90

Frank Lynch
The Samuel Johnson Sound Bite Page is at:
http://www.samueljohnson.com/


Out of curiousity, what were your numbers before taking lipitor and
niacin? Your total chol is now very low, ldl is very low, trig are
low, so I'm curious why you're taking both niacin and lipitor. Were
they that bad without both drugs? Lipitor as I understand it only
lowers LDL. Niacin can both lower LDL and raise HDL, so it would seem
to me, niacin alone might be enough. And Avapro is for blood pressure
isn't it?

"GT" wrote in message ...
Thanks for the concern and advice Jenny. I think I have been checked for
everything, including hepatitis..I remember seeing that box checked off on
the blood work sheet. . Everything checks out OK. I think it's just the
"fatty liver" you are referring to....I'll know next week for sure.

GT


"Jenny" wrote in message
...
GT,

Some early stage kidney problems and a condition called "fatty liver" can
be
improved by low carbing though for addressing fatty liver, you really
should
be on Metformin which reduces insulin resistance and has been shown to
reverse the condition.

But if your liver problem comes from hepatitis diet won't reverse it and
delaying in the hopes that it will could be fatal..

-- Jenny

168.5/137

Low Carb 9/1998 - 8/2001 and 11/10/02 - Now

http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean
How to calculate your need for protein * How much people really lose each
month * Water Weight Gain & Loss * The "Two Gram Cure" for Hunger
Cravings
* Characteristics of Successful Dieters * Indispensible Low Carb Treats *
Should You Count that Low Impact Carb? * Curing Ketobreath * Exercise
Starting from Zero * NEW! Do Starch Blockers Work?


"GT" wrote in message
...

"Jenny" wrote in message
...
Cholesterol is one thing . Abnormal liver enzymes are quite another.
If
your
liver enzymes are ugly, you most definitely need to talk to the doctor
as
this is a sign that your liver might be failing or that you have a
serious
disease like hepatitis.

Total cholesterol may go down on a low carb diet, or it may not. Your
ratios
should improve and your triglicerides most certainly will drop.

However, low carbing will not correct liver failure. Talk to your
doctor!

Actually, it does mention in the Atkins book that both Liver and Kidney
function CAN be corrected (or at least improved, I can't remember the
wording in the book), by Low Carbing. Not sure what is going on with
the
liver, but the doctor didn't seem overly concerned....but I will find
out
when I meet with him next week.

GT





Any of the chol lowering medicines have potential serious liver side
effects, so I'd be sure your doctor knows what he's doing. I'm
surprised anyone with chol numbers so low is taking lipitor at all.

On 25 Sep 2003 11:27:15 -0700, in a clarity of expression resembling
Cicero, (Chet Hayes) wrote:

Frank Lynch wrote in message . ..
On 24 Sep 2003 15:20:24 -0700, in a clarity of expression resembling
Cicero, (Chet Hayes) wrote:

Total chol of 95 and your taking a chol cocktail? What is a chol
cocktail? I've never seen total chol that low. Why would anyone be
on chol drugs with a total chol number of 133 or 95? What are your
other numbers?
There have been some studies done that showed people with chol that is
very low have a higher death rate than those with high chol.

I'm on Lipitor, Niaspan, and Avapro.
good c = 29, bad c = 48, trig = 90

Frank Lynch
The Samuel Johnson Sound Bite Page is at:
http://www.samueljohnson.com/


Out of curiousity, what were your numbers before taking lipitor and
niacin? Your total chol is now very low, ldl is very low, trig are
low, so I'm curious why you're taking both niacin and lipitor. Were
they that bad without both drugs? Lipitor as I understand it only
lowers LDL. Niacin can both lower LDL and raise HDL, so it would seem
to me, niacin alone might be enough. And Avapro is for blood pressure
isn't it?

RE Avapro: yeah you're right, but I'm on it... Along with Zetia (the
other part of the cocktail)

I don't have the "total cholesterol" figures, but in late '02 by good
was 25 and bad was 82

Frank Lynch
The Samuel Johnson Sound Bite Page is at:
http://www.samueljohnson.com/

GT wrote ...
"Jenny" wrote ...
Cholesterol is one thing . Abnormal liver enzymes are quite another. If
your
liver enzymes are ugly, you most definitely need to talk to the doctor
as
this is a sign that your liver might be failing or that you have a
serious
disease like hepatitis.

Or you might just have a 'fatty liver' which is harmless unless you're
planning to take up binge drinking.

Actually, it does mention in the Atkins book that both Liver and Kidney
function CAN be corrected (or at least improved, I can't remember the
wording in the book), by Low Carbing. Not sure what is going on with the
liver, but the doctor didn't seem overly concerned....but I will find out
when I meet with him next week.

I had a liver enzyme test not long before restarting LC, and was told I had
a 'fatty liver' (common in the obese, particularly women I think, though I
could be wrong there).

A follow-up test 6 months later showed normal liver enzymes, so given that I
hadn't had a big drinking session right before the first test, I can only
assume that my liver's return to normal was a result of low carbing.

cheers
Rachel
(New Zealand)

GT wrote ...
Make sure you get enough potassium, by the way, that's the hardest
part early on.

How do you know if you are NOT getting enough potassium?

Muscle cramps, especially in the lower legs.
Occasionally heart palpitations (it's a muscle to it stands to reason it
might suffer along with the rest of them).

I'm sure there are others more knowledgeable than I who can add to the
possible symptoms of low potassium.


Rachel
(New Zealand)