New Zealanders Rise up against latest Atkin's Negativity

Yesterday, 23 Sept, on the Radio NZ Nine to Noon program, was a taped interview by Linda
Clark, with Professor Jim Mann a World renown Nutritionist and Diabetic expert.

If U want to hear the 15 minute interview, go here

http://xtramsn.co.nz/musicandvideo/0,,6151,00.html

Click on the "Play" of the 6th item down, the 9:00 to 9:59am slot and drag the top slider
along to 37:20 on the time scale.

You may like to E-Mail Linda direct on



To at least put a Low Carb view across! Sure as heck the learned Professor was not too
aware of Atkin's and he is about to embark on a Public funded long term study of this Way of
Life!

Frenchy

It's interesting that you would bring this up. Just today my daughter
and I were working on a school report on New Zealand. An article from
World Book Encyclopedia claimed that New Zealanders "eat more butter
and meat per person than do the people of any other country. Lamb is
a favorite meat." Does anyone know the rate of cardiovascular disease
in NZ? Seems to me the perfect place for a LC study.

Kathy
183/150/135
5/03



NeFrenchy" wrote in message ...
Yesterday, 23 Sept, on the Radio NZ Nine to Noon program, was a taped interview by Linda
Clark, with Professor Jim Mann a World renown Nutritionist and Diabetic expert.

If U want to hear the 15 minute interview, go here

http://xtramsn.co.nz/musicandvideo/0,,6151,00.html

Click on the "Play" of the 6th item down, the 9:00 to 9:59am slot and drag the top slider
along to 37:20 on the time scale.

You may like to E-Mail Linda direct on



To at least put a Low Carb view across! Sure as heck the learned Professor was not too
aware of Atkin's and he is about to embark on a Public funded long term study of this Way of
Life!

Frenchy

"Seattleburb" wrote in message
om...
It's interesting that you would bring this up. Just today my daughter
and I were working on a school report on New Zealand. An article from
World Book Encyclopedia claimed that New Zealanders "eat more butter
and meat per person than do the people of any other country. Lamb is
a favorite meat." Does anyone know the rate of cardiovascular disease
in NZ? Seems to me the perfect place for a LC study.

Kathy
183/150/135
5/03


Ummm, guess the World Book is about 30 years behind the times smile. That would have been
a reasonable statement 20+ years ago, but since then the McDonald's and KFC's have invaded
and I am afraid the price of lamb (most is exported) has gone beyond the price of many.

Basically we would eat the same as Australians and USA, without perhaps quite the "dining
out" of the USA in convenience Family restaurants.

The drive for Low Fat has eaten into butter sales over the past 10 years with numerous
margarine's grabbing a large share. I somehow think we are very bad on Carbs! Plenty of
potatoes and sweet potatoes and fried foods and soft drinks! We do drink a lot of whole
milk though and have excellent cheeses.

Jeeze, was that why I got so heavy!! grin

Frenchy

Ah yes, it is a Western culture, after all. How sad. Reminds me of
how I grew up in the Midwest, too many years ago! Basically LC, lots
of good meat, butter, cheese...with sweet corn added in, of course!

NeFrenchy" wrote ...
Yesterday, 23 Sept, on the Radio NZ Nine to Noon program, was a taped
interview by Linda
Clark, with Professor Jim Mann a World renown Nutritionist and Diabetic
expert.

If U want to hear the 15 minute interview, go here

http://xtramsn.co.nz/musicandvideo/0,,6151,00.html

Click on the "Play" of the 6th item down, the 9:00 to 9:59am slot and
drag the top slider
along to 37:20 on the time scale.

You may like to E-Mail Linda direct on



To at least put a Low Carb view across! Sure as heck the learned
Professor was not too
aware of Atkin's and he is about to embark on a Public funded long term
study of this Way of
Life!

Bugger, I can't play the clip.

Does anyone know where I might get a transcript?


cheers
Rachel
(New Zealand)

"Supergoof" wrote in message news:1064553058.445042@muldoon...
NeFrenchy" wrote ...
Yesterday, 23 Sept, on the Radio NZ Nine to Noon program, was a taped
interview by Linda
Clark, with Professor Jim Mann a World renown Nutritionist and Diabetic
expert.

If U want to hear the 15 minute interview, go here

http://xtramsn.co.nz/musicandvideo/0,,6151,00.html

Click on the "Play" of the 6th item down, the 9:00 to 9:59am slot and
drag the top slider
along to 37:20 on the time scale.

You may like to E-Mail Linda direct on



To at least put a Low Carb view across! Sure as heck the learned
Professor was not too
aware of Atkin's and he is about to embark on a Public funded long term
study of this Way of
Life!

Bugger, I can't play the clip.

Does anyone know where I might get a transcript?


cheers
Rachel
(New Zealand)

Shucks, looks like they only cache one days worth and the above link now gives the slots
from the 24th and this interview was on the 23rd.

You may be able to E-Mail the ninetonoon address above and request a copy?

I E-Mailed the learned professor and if he doesn't reply I will publish what I sent to him
here!!

Frenchy

In article 1064553058.445042@muldoon,
"Supergoof" wrote:

NeFrenchy" wrote ...
Yesterday, 23 Sept, on the Radio NZ Nine to Noon program, was a taped
interview by Linda
Clark, with Professor Jim Mann a World renown Nutritionist and Diabetic
expert.

If U want to hear the 15 minute interview, go here

http://xtramsn.co.nz/musicandvideo/0,,6151,00.html

Click on the "Play" of the 6th item down, the 9:00 to 9:59am slot and
drag the top slider
along to 37:20 on the time scale.

You may like to E-Mail Linda direct on



To at least put a Low Carb view across! Sure as heck the learned
Professor was not too
aware of Atkin's and he is about to embark on a Public funded long term
study of this Way of
Life!

Bugger, I can't play the clip.

Does anyone know where I might get a transcript?


cheers
Rachel
(New Zealand)



I'm pretty sure you can get replay radio tapes from national radio nine
to noon. Email the newsroom and check it out. I heard the last part on
the radio, and thought it was characterised by ignorance and closed
mindedness. No awareness that low carbers might eat vegetables, and
described our food as limited and boring. Reading behind the lines, I'd
suggest its a case of a low fat diet advocate being forced by the
evidence to consider low carb (he himself said clearly people lose
weight on this diet 'but can they keep it off'). So he's duty bound to
do some research, which by his attitude I'd suggest is going to be
designed by a mind too closed to find out accurate information.

ange (wellington)

snip
To at least put a Low Carb view across! Sure as heck the learned
Professor was not too
aware of Atkin's and he is about to embark on a Public funded long term
study of this Way of
Life!

Bugger, I can't play the clip.

Does anyone know where I might get a transcript?


cheers
Rachel
(New Zealand)



I'm pretty sure you can get replay radio tapes from national radio nine
to noon. Email the newsroom and check it out. I heard the last part on
the radio, and thought it was characterised by ignorance and closed
mindedness. No awareness that low carbers might eat vegetables, and
described our food as limited and boring. Reading behind the lines, I'd
suggest its a case of a low fat diet advocate being forced by the
evidence to consider low carb (he himself said clearly people lose
weight on this diet 'but can they keep it off'). So he's duty bound to
do some research, which by his attitude I'd suggest is going to be
designed by a mind too closed to find out accurate information.

ange (wellington)

As I have heard nothing from the learned Professor or the Nine to Noon presenter, thought it
worth while putting my E-Mail to them here!

PASTE

Dear Professor Mann (I have also copied Linda Clark with this E-Mail)

With mounting horror, I listened to your Interview today, with Linda Clark on
Radio NZ. While you are obviously a World Expert in Diabetes, have you EVER
read the "Atkin's New Diet Revolution" book?

Surely undertaking a Public Funded Research into the Atkin's Diet is beholden on
you to have first read the book, with understanding?

This is NOT a HIGH FAT diet. The perpetration of those inflammatory words by
the medical profession and in particular businesses with a vested interest in
seeing the current Atkin's revolution debunked, makes many of your words today
join this list of negative speaking people! I am sure you are aware of the huge
loss in sales by the Wheat and Potato Boards of Western Countries, to say
nothing of the plunging profits of "Big Business" that has invested millions in
the "Low Fat" eating. Unilever profits down 27% and blamed on Atkin's!!

http://slate.msn.com/id/2088210/

Firstly, lets tackle the HIGH FAT myth. This is a reduced carbohydrate diet,
not a high fat one. People who undertake this diet have been eating far too
many carbohydrates in the balance of Protein/Fat/Carbohydrate trio. All that
reducing the carbohydrate intake does, is bring the balance of Carbs/fat/protein
closer to equal. In no way is that a high Fat Diet, in fact the Atkin's
"instructions" is very clear that fat intake is to be of the Olive Oil, Omega 3,
butter, cheese variety, although saturated fats are allowed, they are not
specifically encouraged.

Please don't refer to this as a high fat diet.

Secondly, all genuine practioners of Atkin's will tell you that this is a "Way
of Life" and not a diet. It is not a short term or 1 year fad to reduce weight,
this is a quantum leap in nutrition change, for LIFE.

Diets do not FAIL, it is the DIETER that fails. Obviously if your Carb intake
has been such that you are 50 kgs overweight and you undertake the Atkin's Way
of Life and lose that weight and then recommence your old habits of unlimited or
large amounts of Carbohydrates, of course you will put back on the weight! This
ain't rocket science and neither is it a quick fix!

I would respectfully recommend that you "lurk" and monitor the News Group

alt.support.diet.low-carb

This is a huge database of Low Carb practioners in all shapes and sizes (no pun
intended) with a many years of combined knowledge of Low Carb eating. Note it
is not specific to Atkin's, as there are of course a multitude of clones of this
Low Carb way of eating. Feel free to jump in a query things, be prepared for
honest and direct answers!

In a nutshell, the Atkins Way of Life requires a minimum of a TWO week induction
period where no more than 20 grams per day of Carbohydrates are eaten. During
this time, no nuts, alcohol, fruit, coffee, tea or of course any of the starch
foods are eaten. Unfortunately, the media and other vested interests
concentrate ONLY on this period, as if this is the total diet! You may like to
think of this as a detox period and it surely does remove all traces of the
"poison's" from the system. Absolutely essential in this induction phase is the
daily taking of a Multivitamin/Micronutrient pill, as obviously this Induction
period is not a normal nutritious diet. Weight loss in this Induction phase is
spectacular (2-4 kgs per week) and diet induced Ketosis is normal for many
people.

You then move into the second phase or the OWL (Ongoing Way of Life), where you
increase the Carbohydrate intake per day by a varying amount that keeps the
ongoing weight loss to approx 0.5 kgs/week. This increase in carbs will vary by
individual, but probably takes most people into the 35-45 grams per day of
Carbohydrates. You continue in this phase until a predetermined goal weight is
reached. Note the increased carb intake is strongly recommended to be made up
of fruit, nuts, pulses and some grains. Depending on the goal weight that is
needed to be reached, this OWL may be many months or years. Note you are now
eating good fats, grains, nuts and fruits as well as fish, meat and if you had
to "have it" small quantities of bread and pasta and other starch foods, BUT
when you see the typical Carbohydrate content of many of these foods, you will
be so restricted in quantity, and the fact that you quickly lose desire for
them, that you may never eat potato's and Pasta again! At 51 grams of
Carbohydrate per medium/large potato serving, it plays havoc with a target of 40
grams per day total!

Finally the last stage of Atkin's is reached. You have reached your goal weight
and now you again increase the daily grams of carbs to a total, where you
neither gain nor lose weight. Here you can eat anything and I would guess this
is close to 80-90 grams per day of Carbohydrates. No restrictions. No high fat,
just be conscious that your daily carbohydrate intake does not exceed a
predetermined maximum.

I conservatively put my Carbohydrate intake in pre-Atkin's days, many times to
be over 300 grams per day. When you see a glass of fresh Orange juice at 27
grams of Carbohydrate, a banana at 23 grams, a couple of potatoes at 100 grams
and bread at 13-15 grams per slice, I am sure we ALL eat way too many
carbohydrates!

This is a long rant, but I feel the report today was totally one-sided and that
I have to put over my own personal experiences of both eating as well as
research.

Let us now look at T2, Adult Onset Diabetes. You are a recognised expert, so
please excuse any inaccuracies I may make on this topic. Let us bring it down
to my layman's level!

When you eat Carbohydrates, the pancreas produces Insulin that quickly breaks
these carbs down into glucose that is either used or converted and stored as
fat. The higher the Carbohydrate intake, the more insulin produced and
depending on the physical lifestyle, obviously the more stored fat. There is no
question you get hungry when you are producing Insulin! I think the pancreas
starts producing it when you see the food on the plate!

Without question every Atkin's practioner reports on the ABSENCE of hunger
between meals and the far smaller meals that are needed to satisfy the hunger.
You don't get fat, by eating fat! The years of cutting fat from food and
drinking skinny milk and partaking only the other "Low Fat" commercial foods are
gone. Take a walk into your local Supermarket. Find the Low Fat foods and read
the labels for the nutritional information. Almost without exception they are
high in Carbohydrates! You eat them, you feel hungry quickly afterwards, you
produce excess Insulin and you will put on weight if your calories in are ahead
of calories out and you are heading for T2 diabetes.

I have been on Atkin's for just over 3 months now. I am a fit (but overweight)
59 year old male who weighed 117 kgs on 8 June/03. My GP was warning of a
pre-diabetic condition. Random Glucose rising form 5.1 to 11.6 mmol/L over 6
years and fasting Glucose at 6.3. I am relatively active (6+ hours of hard
tennis a week) but have always struggled with weight and this had steadily
increased in the last 2-3 years. My cholesterol was high (7.4 mmol/L total with
high LDL and Triglycerides), but the current fad to drive cholesterol down is a
whole other story! Read this article

http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/oiling.html

for another nutritionists view on cholesterol! I have NEVER worried about
cholesterol levels but am cognisant that lower is better, within reason.

Anyway, after 3 months on Atkin's I feel WONDERFUL. I have lost 19 kgs in
weight and I sleep like a baby without ONCE snoring since I started on Atkin's.
My blood pressure has dropped from 140/80 to 115/65. A complete blood workup
last week shows a 25% reduction in total cholesterol, 60% drop in Triglycerides,
a 27% drop in LDL's and a 20% increase in HDL's. My fasting Glucose is down to
5.9 and HbA1c is 6.0%. I feel and look great!

All this on a 3 month diet of cheese and eggs, meat of every kind, fish and
salad, vegetables and nuts and chicken with the skin on! I have not eaten bread
or potatoes/kumera's or pasta in this 3 months and have never missed it at all.
I eat three times a day and don't snack in between. No beer and certainly no
soft drinks!

I am NOT an isolated case. The News Group above reports daily on hundreds of
success stories, all genuine. My wife has had similar success in the same
period on Atkin's, while so have many of my friends who see the difference in
myself and want the secret! It is NOT just the weight loss. I would do it ALL
for the feeling of well being, the improved health numbers and the overall
energy and positive brain activity.

You feel so darned good, you want to tell EVERYONE to stop eating HIGH CARBS! I
understand there are now close to 4 million people in the UK doing Atkin's (or
similar low carb eating) and a massive 86% report they are totally satisfied
with how they feel and what they are achieving! Ask any large group of Weight
Watchers or Jenny Craig and I bet it is less than 20% "feel good without hunger
or cravings".

A large number of T2 diabetics are in total control by doing Atkin's and throw
away their medication (as discussed in the News Groups). Even Insulin dependant
T1 diabetics are cutting out or back on Insulin injections. In fact I
understand there is a groundswell in the USA to litigate against the ADA
(American Diabetics Association) for the wrongful dietary advise they have been
giving out over the many years past. Told to eat relatively high amounts of
Carbohydrates and then injecting themselves with Insulin to counteract what they
have been told to eat!! I appreciate that is simplistic, but I am sure you know
what I am saying. At least twice in the interview today, you went to great
pains to say "Perhaps there are Elements of this Atkin's diet that can be
incorporated into a nutritional plan"!

You bet there are!

A recent hatchet job by Dr Susan Jebb (who I am sure you know as a fellow
Nutritionist) in the UK was widely published in TV and Newspapers in the UK.
What had very little publicity afterwards was the fact that much of this work
was on behalf of the UK Flour Board and a monetary Grant from them for the
"research".
Read here
http://www.atkins-diet.cc/Article8.phtml

And finally, I am sorry this is so long, but as you are going to research the
Atkin's diet, I at least wanted my two penny's worth! I would love to be part
of your study, but I guess the fact I am in Tauranga and already well into my
Atkin's Way of Life precludes this?

You had said there was little long term research into the Low Carb nutrition. A
quick Google search shows many complimentary scientific studies and as you are a
Diabetes expert, I leave you with this article from some Australian Research.

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi...tract/25/3/425

Kind Regards

END PASTE


--
Frenchy

Atkins since 8 June/03
252/217/180

Excellent and well thought out letter, Frenchy!

Well done!

DustyB

"Frenchy" wrote in message
...
snip
To at least put a Low Carb view across! Sure as heck the learned
....
--
Frenchy

Atkins since 8 June/03
252/217/180

In article ,
"Frenchy" wrote:

snip
To at least put a Low Carb view across! Sure as heck the learned
Professor was not too
aware of Atkin's and he is about to embark on a Public funded long
term
study of this Way of
Life!

Bugger, I can't play the clip.

Does anyone know where I might get a transcript?


cheers
Rachel
(New Zealand)



I'm pretty sure you can get replay radio tapes from national radio nine
to noon. Email the newsroom and check it out. I heard the last part on
the radio, and thought it was characterised by ignorance and closed
mindedness. No awareness that low carbers might eat vegetables, and
described our food as limited and boring. Reading behind the lines, I'd
suggest its a case of a low fat diet advocate being forced by the
evidence to consider low carb (he himself said clearly people lose
weight on this diet 'but can they keep it off'). So he's duty bound to
do some research, which by his attitude I'd suggest is going to be
designed by a mind too closed to find out accurate information.

ange (wellington)

As I have heard nothing from the learned Professor or the Nine to Noon
presenter, thought it
worth while putting my E-Mail to them here!

PASTE

Dear Professor Mann (I have also copied Linda Clark with this E-Mail)

With mounting horror, I listened to your Interview today, with Linda Clark on
Radio NZ. While you are obviously a World Expert in Diabetes, have you EVER
read the "Atkin's New Diet Revolution" book?

Surely undertaking a Public Funded Research into the Atkin's Diet is beholden
on
you to have first read the book, with understanding?

This is NOT a HIGH FAT diet. The perpetration of those inflammatory words by
the medical profession and in particular businesses with a vested interest in
seeing the current Atkin's revolution debunked, makes many of your words
today
join this list of negative speaking people! I am sure you are aware of the
huge
loss in sales by the Wheat and Potato Boards of Western Countries, to say
nothing of the plunging profits of "Big Business" that has invested millions
in
the "Low Fat" eating. Unilever profits down 27% and blamed on Atkin's!!

http://slate.msn.com/id/2088210/

Firstly, lets tackle the HIGH FAT myth. This is a reduced carbohydrate diet,
not a high fat one. People who undertake this diet have been eating far too
many carbohydrates in the balance of Protein/Fat/Carbohydrate trio. All that
reducing the carbohydrate intake does, is bring the balance of
Carbs/fat/protein
closer to equal. In no way is that a high Fat Diet, in fact the Atkin's
"instructions" is very clear that fat intake is to be of the Olive Oil, Omega
3,
butter, cheese variety, although saturated fats are allowed, they are not
specifically encouraged.

Please don't refer to this as a high fat diet.

Secondly, all genuine practioners of Atkin's will tell you that this is a
"Way
of Life" and not a diet. It is not a short term or 1 year fad to reduce
weight,
this is a quantum leap in nutrition change, for LIFE.

Diets do not FAIL, it is the DIETER that fails. Obviously if your Carb
intake
has been such that you are 50 kgs overweight and you undertake the Atkin's
Way
of Life and lose that weight and then recommence your old habits of unlimited
or
large amounts of Carbohydrates, of course you will put back on the weight!
This
ain't rocket science and neither is it a quick fix!

I would respectfully recommend that you "lurk" and monitor the News Group

alt.support.diet.low-carb

This is a huge database of Low Carb practioners in all shapes and sizes (no
pun
intended) with a many years of combined knowledge of Low Carb eating. Note
it
is not specific to Atkin's, as there are of course a multitude of clones of
this
Low Carb way of eating. Feel free to jump in a query things, be prepared for
honest and direct answers!

In a nutshell, the Atkins Way of Life requires a minimum of a TWO week
induction
period where no more than 20 grams per day of Carbohydrates are eaten.
During
this time, no nuts, alcohol, fruit, coffee, tea or of course any of the
starch
foods are eaten. Unfortunately, the media and other vested interests
concentrate ONLY on this period, as if this is the total diet! You may like
to
think of this as a detox period and it surely does remove all traces of the
"poison's" from the system. Absolutely essential in this induction phase is
the
daily taking of a Multivitamin/Micronutrient pill, as obviously this
Induction
period is not a normal nutritious diet. Weight loss in this Induction phase
is
spectacular (2-4 kgs per week) and diet induced Ketosis is normal for many
people.

You then move into the second phase or the OWL (Ongoing Way of Life), where
you
increase the Carbohydrate intake per day by a varying amount that keeps the
ongoing weight loss to approx 0.5 kgs/week. This increase in carbs will vary
by
individual, but probably takes most people into the 35-45 grams per day of
Carbohydrates. You continue in this phase until a predetermined goal weight
is
reached. Note the increased carb intake is strongly recommended to be made
up
of fruit, nuts, pulses and some grains. Depending on the goal weight that is
needed to be reached, this OWL may be many months or years. Note you are now
eating good fats, grains, nuts and fruits as well as fish, meat and if you
had
to "have it" small quantities of bread and pasta and other starch foods, BUT
when you see the typical Carbohydrate content of many of these foods, you
will
be so restricted in quantity, and the fact that you quickly lose desire for
them, that you may never eat potato's and Pasta again! At 51 grams of
Carbohydrate per medium/large potato serving, it plays havoc with a target of
40
grams per day total!

Finally the last stage of Atkin's is reached. You have reached your goal
weight
and now you again increase the daily grams of carbs to a total, where you
neither gain nor lose weight. Here you can eat anything and I would guess
this
is close to 80-90 grams per day of Carbohydrates. No restrictions. No high
fat,
just be conscious that your daily carbohydrate intake does not exceed a
predetermined maximum.

I conservatively put my Carbohydrate intake in pre-Atkin's days, many times
to
be over 300 grams per day. When you see a glass of fresh Orange juice at 27
grams of Carbohydrate, a banana at 23 grams, a couple of potatoes at 100
grams
and bread at 13-15 grams per slice, I am sure we ALL eat way too many
carbohydrates!

This is a long rant, but I feel the report today was totally one-sided and
that
I have to put over my own personal experiences of both eating as well as
research.

Let us now look at T2, Adult Onset Diabetes. You are a recognised expert, so
please excuse any inaccuracies I may make on this topic. Let us bring it
down
to my layman's level!

When you eat Carbohydrates, the pancreas produces Insulin that quickly breaks
these carbs down into glucose that is either used or converted and stored as
fat. The higher the Carbohydrate intake, the more insulin produced and
depending on the physical lifestyle, obviously the more stored fat. There is
no
question you get hungry when you are producing Insulin! I think the pancreas
starts producing it when you see the food on the plate!

Without question every Atkin's practioner reports on the ABSENCE of hunger
between meals and the far smaller meals that are needed to satisfy the
hunger.
You don't get fat, by eating fat! The years of cutting fat from food and
drinking skinny milk and partaking only the other "Low Fat" commercial foods
are
gone. Take a walk into your local Supermarket. Find the Low Fat foods and
read
the labels for the nutritional information. Almost without exception they
are
high in Carbohydrates! You eat them, you feel hungry quickly afterwards, you
produce excess Insulin and you will put on weight if your calories in are
ahead
of calories out and you are heading for T2 diabetes.

I have been on Atkin's for just over 3 months now. I am a fit (but
overweight)
59 year old male who weighed 117 kgs on 8 June/03. My GP was warning of a
pre-diabetic condition. Random Glucose rising form 5.1 to 11.6 mmol/L over 6
years and fasting Glucose at 6.3. I am relatively active (6+ hours of hard
tennis a week) but have always struggled with weight and this had steadily
increased in the last 2-3 years. My cholesterol was high (7.4 mmol/L total
with
high LDL and Triglycerides), but the current fad to drive cholesterol down is
a
whole other story! Read this article

http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/oiling.html

for another nutritionists view on cholesterol! I have NEVER worried about
cholesterol levels but am cognisant that lower is better, within reason.

Anyway, after 3 months on Atkin's I feel WONDERFUL. I have lost 19 kgs in
weight and I sleep like a baby without ONCE snoring since I started on
Atkin's.
My blood pressure has dropped from 140/80 to 115/65. A complete blood workup
last week shows a 25% reduction in total cholesterol, 60% drop in
Triglycerides,
a 27% drop in LDL's and a 20% increase in HDL's. My fasting Glucose is down
to
5.9 and HbA1c is 6.0%. I feel and look great!

All this on a 3 month diet of cheese and eggs, meat of every kind, fish and
salad, vegetables and nuts and chicken with the skin on! I have not eaten
bread
or potatoes/kumera's or pasta in this 3 months and have never missed it at
all.
I eat three times a day and don't snack in between. No beer and certainly no
soft drinks!

I am NOT an isolated case. The News Group above reports daily on hundreds of
success stories, all genuine. My wife has had similar success in the same
period on Atkin's, while so have many of my friends who see the difference in
myself and want the secret! It is NOT just the weight loss. I would do it
ALL
for the feeling of well being, the improved health numbers and the overall
energy and positive brain activity.

You feel so darned good, you want to tell EVERYONE to stop eating HIGH CARBS!
I
understand there are now close to 4 million people in the UK doing Atkin's
(or
similar low carb eating) and a massive 86% report they are totally satisfied
with how they feel and what they are achieving! Ask any large group of
Weight
Watchers or Jenny Craig and I bet it is less than 20% "feel good without
hunger
or cravings".

A large number of T2 diabetics are in total control by doing Atkin's and
throw
away their medication (as discussed in the News Groups). Even Insulin
dependant
T1 diabetics are cutting out or back on Insulin injections. In fact I
understand there is a groundswell in the USA to litigate against the ADA
(American Diabetics Association) for the wrongful dietary advise they have
been
giving out over the many years past. Told to eat relatively high amounts of
Carbohydrates and then injecting themselves with Insulin to counteract what
they
have been told to eat!! I appreciate that is simplistic, but I am sure you
know
what I am saying. At least twice in the interview today, you went to great
pains to say "Perhaps there are Elements of this Atkin's diet that can be
incorporated into a nutritional plan"!

You bet there are!

A recent hatchet job by Dr Susan Jebb (who I am sure you know as a fellow
Nutritionist) in the UK was widely published in TV and Newspapers in the UK.
What had very little publicity afterwards was the fact that much of this work
was on behalf of the UK Flour Board and a monetary Grant from them for the
"research".
Read here
http://www.atkins-diet.cc/Article8.phtml

And finally, I am sorry this is so long, but as you are going to research the
Atkin's diet, I at least wanted my two penny's worth! I would love to be
part
of your study, but I guess the fact I am in Tauranga and already well into my
Atkin's Way of Life precludes this?

You had said there was little long term research into the Low Carb nutrition.
A
quick Google search shows many complimentary scientific studies and as you
are a
Diabetes expert, I leave you with this article from some Australian Research.

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi...tract/25/3/425

Kind Regards

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great stuff Frenchy, thanks for putting in the time

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