40% Fat?

I just read that the standard American diet is about 40% fat, but how
do they consume so much fat!?!? Even if you ate a lot of red meat and
dairy products which can be about 50% fat, there's just no way. And
certainly nobody uses a s***load of cooking oils. I'm very confused
about that.

Ok. Nobody makes meat their staple food, certainly not anyone sensable.
There's just no way you would eat a pound of meat and still enjoy it.
And besides very few meat has more than 60% calories in fat. 40% is
very high in fat ... you could still eat a lot of meat and achieve
lower than that ... It seems Americans are drinking oil!

"Andrew" wrote in message
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Ok. Nobody makes meat their staple food, certainly not anyone sensable.
There's just no way you would eat a pound of meat and still enjoy it.
And besides very few meat has more than 60% calories in fat. 40% is
very high in fat ... you could still eat a lot of meat and achieve
lower than that ... It seems Americans are drinking oil!

Listed percentages of fat content on meat is by weight, not calories. But a
gram of fat is 9 calories, while a gram of protein is 4 calories. Hence the
difference.

Andrew wrote:
I just read that the standard American diet is about 40% fat, but how
do they consume so much fat!?!? Even if you ate a lot of red meat and
dairy products which can be about 50% fat, there's just no way. And
certainly nobody uses a s***load of cooking oils. I'm very confused
about that.

There are a couple of ways Americans over consume fat. One big one is
in eating fastfoods. At this website you can do a search of say
sandwiches/fat content per grams/from higher to lower and get a Hardees
Bacon Double Cheeseburger with 96grams of fat! When you consider that
most people eat maybe 20-30grams of fat for a whole DAY, its way too
much in one sitting. http://www.foodfacts.info/index.shtml
Then another place fats are overeaten is of course in
desserts(icecream, cakes cookies, etc) and of course chocolate candies.
Hellooooo butter is a fat, its not just red meat or cooking oils!
Then there is snack foods like chips, nachos, etc and mayo and CHEESE!
OMG! no wonder we overeat fats! Its everywhere in everything -
processed that is. Now if only we ate more vegetables and fruits ...


joanne

Ignoramus21310 wrote:
On 16 May 2005 21:10:08 -0700, Andrew wrote:
Ok. Nobody makes meat their staple food, certainly not anyone
sensable.
There's just no way you would eat a pound of meat and still enjoy
it.

I suppose that 154 bananas are easier to eat.

And besides very few meat has more than 60% calories in fat. 40% is
very high in fat ... you could still eat a lot of meat and achieve
lower than that ... It seems Americans are drinking oil!


you may want to actually check out calorie content of, say, short
ribs
trimmed to 1/4" fat. 100 grams contains 383 calories, 288 of them
coming from fat. Most of the fat in short ribs is not "saturated",
contrary to popular beliefs. Very tasty stuff and easy to cook. A
store near us sells them for $1.99 per lb.

--
223/174.8/180

According to www.nutritiondata.com short ribs is one of the beef
varieites highest in saturated fat. There are much better selections
of beef that contain less saturated fats. Most diets recommend
limiting saturated fats. It's probably better all around if someone
chooses to consume healthier fats and avoid saturated fats.

http://www.nutritiondata.com/foods-0...000000000.html

"Beverly" wrote in message
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Ignoramus21310 wrote:
On 16 May 2005 21:10:08 -0700, Andrew wrote:
Ok. Nobody makes meat their staple food, certainly not anyone
sensable.
There's just no way you would eat a pound of meat and still enjoy
it.

I suppose that 154 bananas are easier to eat.

And besides very few meat has more than 60% calories in fat. 40% is
very high in fat ... you could still eat a lot of meat and achieve
lower than that ... It seems Americans are drinking oil!


you may want to actually check out calorie content of, say, short
ribs
trimmed to 1/4" fat. 100 grams contains 383 calories, 288 of them
coming from fat. Most of the fat in short ribs is not "saturated",
contrary to popular beliefs. Very tasty stuff and easy to cook. A
store near us sells them for $1.99 per lb.

--
223/174.8/180

According to www.nutritiondata.com short ribs is one of the beef
varieites highest in saturated fat. There are much better selections
of beef that contain less saturated fats. Most diets recommend
limiting saturated fats. It's probably better all around if someone
chooses to consume healthier fats and avoid saturated fats.

http://www.nutritiondata.com/foods-0...000000000.html

Not only that, but most red meats like that are the primary source of
saturated fat in a typical diet. Just because there are other kinds of fat
in it, even if it is a higher amount, doesn't make it good for you. It's
just another way of distorting the facts to mask the truth - typical of
this poster.

Very recent studies are showing that it's not always the saturated fat but
where it's coming from and what you eat with it that makes it less healthy.
Yesterday a new study came out that showed low fat diets help prevent
recurrence of breast cancer. But hey, if people want to load up on their
fat they should feel free - just don't whine when the pounds start coming on
or when worse things happen down the road.
--
the volleyballchick

Nunya B. wrote:
"Beverly" wrote in message
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Ignoramus21310 wrote:
On 16 May 2005 21:10:08 -0700, Andrew
wrote:
Ok. Nobody makes meat their staple food, certainly not anyone
sensable.
There's just no way you would eat a pound of meat and still
enjoy
it.

I suppose that 154 bananas are easier to eat.

And besides very few meat has more than 60% calories in fat. 40%
is
very high in fat ... you could still eat a lot of meat and
achieve
lower than that ... It seems Americans are drinking oil!


you may want to actually check out calorie content of, say, short
ribs
trimmed to 1/4" fat. 100 grams contains 383 calories, 288 of them
coming from fat. Most of the fat in short ribs is not "saturated",
contrary to popular beliefs. Very tasty stuff and easy to cook. A
store near us sells them for $1.99 per lb.

--
223/174.8/180

According to www.nutritiondata.com short ribs is one of the beef
varieites highest in saturated fat. There are much better
selections
of beef that contain less saturated fats. Most diets recommend
limiting saturated fats. It's probably better all around if
someone
chooses to consume healthier fats and avoid saturated fats.

http://www.nutritiondata.com/foods-0...000000000.html

Not only that, but most red meats like that are the primary source of

saturated fat in a typical diet. Just because there are other kinds
of fat
in it, even if it is a higher amount, doesn't make it good for you.
It's
just another way of distorting the facts to mask the truth - typical
of
this poster.

Very recent studies are showing that it's not always the saturated
fat but
where it's coming from and what you eat with it that makes it less
healthy.
Yesterday a new study came out that showed low fat diets help prevent

recurrence of breast cancer. But hey, if people want to load up on
their
fat they should feel free - just don't whine when the pounds start
coming on
or when worse things happen down the road.
--
the volleyballchick

I saw the article on low-fat diets helping to prevent the recurrence of
breast cancer. I wondered if avoiding fat would also help to reduce
the risk of developing breast cancer and not just in preventing it's
recurrence? Breast cancer has hit several women on my father's side of
the family. My aunt has been a breast cancer survivor for several
years and I know she drastically changed her diet afterward. She also
added exercise. She's now in her early 70's and looks and feels great.


I also heard a report recently that indicated the fatty area of meat is
where they find the highest concentration of additives such as
antibiotics, etc from the animal's diet.

Beverly

Ignoramus21310 wrote in message
...

you may want to actually check out calorie content of, say, short
ribs
trimmed to 1/4" fat. 100 grams contains 383 calories, 288 of them
coming from fat. Most of the fat in short ribs is not "saturated",
contrary to popular beliefs. Very tasty stuff and easy to cook. A
store near us sells them for $1.99 per lb.

The ratio of unsaturated:saturated fat in short ribs is roughly close
to 1:1. The AHA--among other organizations--recommends a ratio closer
to 2:1. But even then, ratios are not the whole story. If I choose 100
grams of eye of round trimmed of all fat I would get only 5 grams of
fat compared to the 30+ grams in short ribs.

Matthew

Beverly wrote in message
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I saw the article on low-fat diets helping to prevent the recurrence
of
breast cancer. I wondered if avoiding fat would also help to reduce
the risk of developing breast cancer and not just in preventing it's
recurrence?

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...June/ai_863875
65

Matthew

Matthew wrote:
Ignoramus21310 wrote in message
...

you may want to actually check out calorie content of, say, short
ribs
trimmed to 1/4" fat. 100 grams contains 383 calories, 288 of them
coming from fat. Most of the fat in short ribs is not "saturated",
contrary to popular beliefs. Very tasty stuff and easy to cook. A
store near us sells them for $1.99 per lb.

The ratio of unsaturated:saturated fat in short ribs is roughly close
to 1:1. The AHA--among other organizations--recommends a ratio closer
to 2:1. But even then, ratios are not the whole story. If I choose
100
grams of eye of round trimmed of all fat I would get only 5 grams of
fat compared to the 30+ grams in short ribs.

Matthew

Eye of round is a much better choice. I don't eat a lot of beef but I
do buy eye of round when I want to fix a steak of the grill. I prefer
fish more than beef. Of course we have to consider the risk of mercury
in fish I'm beginning to wonder about our food sources. We hear
almost daily about health hazards from our food sources. Guess I'll
just pick the lowest risk items.

I couldn't find the recent article on additives in beef but here's an
older one. It indicates many of the harmful additives are concentrated
in the fat area.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...ct/ai_78900860


Beverly