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Old November 15th, 2003, 02:44 AM
Carol Frilegh
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Default Thyroid Dilemma

I've been taking the lowest dosage of Eltroxin, a synthetic thyroid
extract for years as I have hypothyroidism and with medication the "T"
levels are normal Now that I've lost weight and kept it off, I
discussed going off the supplement for six weeks with the doctor who
approves.

But I still have hair loss run a very low temp and am often fatigued
even with tetsibg normal My waking temp is below 96.
One of the side effects of stopping Eltroxin could be weight gain.
On the other hand, the less medication, the better for my immune system.
The option is mine.

What would you do?

--
Diva
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Old November 15th, 2003, 12:03 PM
Carol Frilegh
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In article , Ignoramus26064
wrote:

In article , Carol Frilegh wrote:
I've been taking the lowest dosage of Eltroxin, a synthetic thyroid
extract for years as I have hypothyroidism and with medication the "T"
levels are normal Now that I've lost weight and kept it off, I
discussed going off the supplement for six weeks with the doctor who
approves.

But I still have hair loss run a very low temp and am often fatigued
even with tetsibg normal My waking temp is below 96.
One of the side effects of stopping Eltroxin could be weight gain.
On the other hand, the less medication, the better for my immune system.
The option is mine.

What would you do?


I also take thyroid supplements (the Russian natural cow derived
hormone). Synthroid has no effect on me for some strange reason. I
need to take them due to a partial thyroidectomy 10 years ago.

Some general signs of thyroid hormone deficiency are low temp, low
pulse, low energy, feeling fatigued, and hair loss. I always had low
pulse due to my running. My pulse is 54-56 these days after walking up
to the blood pressure machine. I test my BP and pulse a few times a
week as the machine is located in the same building where I work.

The general advice that I was given in Russia was to go by my feeling
and if I feel symptoms of low thyroid, to increase my dose slightly,
and if I feel hyper, to decrease it slightly, but to average my
condition over a few days to avoid swings.

Here in the US, the consensus seems to be to use tests, but the
doctors who prescribe this medication also listen to patients and how
much they ask for.

So, since you asked for a suggestion, my suggestion would be to
gradually reduce the dose and record your measurements (pulse, body
temp, how you feel etc) in a diary.

Do not make dramatic changes as their effects may not be immediately
apparent.

Also, as you are getting older, some symptoms of aging may look
similar to thyroid deficiency.

Just my layman's opinion, since you asked.

i
223/177/180


Ig, your advise makes sense. I've been havig dizzy spells lately and
the doctor ruled out stroke and cited migraine from our recent frequent
extreme weather changes and a stubborn deposit of ear wax that needs a
second attempt at flushing out.


This morning I noted a dizzy spell started 1/2 hour after I took my
Eltroxin. My BP is down to a very nice 110/60 and I attribute it to
exercise. I also felt my heart speed up slightly after the "T" med.
I am thinking of taking it every other day for six weeks and then being
retested. The doctor has approved suspending it or alternating. She
said since I've kept my 86 pounds off for four years, things may have
changed.

Notwithstanding being at this lower weight has been a dream come trye
especially in terms of feeling like a bormal person and knowing the
label of "fat" no longer applies.

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Old November 15th, 2003, 01:37 PM
SnugBear
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"Carol Frilegh" wrote
snip

Notwithstanding being at this lower weight has been a dream come true
especially in terms of feeling like a normal person and knowing the
label of "fat" no longer applies.

--
Diva


This is my Christmas wish for each and every one of us here at asd.
(if not this year - than next!)

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Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03



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Old November 15th, 2003, 02:24 PM
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On the other hand, the less medication, the better for my immune

system.
The option is mine.



would you elucidate on that immune system compromise comment?


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Old November 15th, 2003, 03:07 PM
Carol Frilegh
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In article , rosie read
and post wrote:

On the other hand, the less medication, the better for my immune

system.
The option is mine.



would you elucidate on that immune system compromise comment?


I lost my weight over time and reached an ideal level in late 1999. My
physical health had always been excellent except for more frequent head
colds before I lost weight.

As you know i had taken lithium for 15 years and came off off it under
medical supervision. In Feb. 2000 I had pneumonia lost 19% use of one
lung ( now restored) and was given an anti biotic. in March
I reluctantly took a diminishing two week course of prednisone to
disolve nasal polyps. An allergist took exception to the "pred' and
even though the polyps wre gone, gave me several cortisone nasal
sprays, of which each had side effcts. i started a series of injections
for Dust Mite Allergy and then all hell broke loose. A near
anaphylactic reaction to the injections. Acute senitivity to foods,
synthetic materials and rubber. I was in constant gastric pain and had
terrible reactions to ecerything but cotton.

We have an MCS evaluation clinic at our largest hospital and teaching
center, Sunnybrook. I was diagnosed with ideopathic environmental
illness and slaved for the next few years to simplify my personal
environment. When I began to react to grains and even rice i went on
the SCD diet and showed great improvement and better food tolerance.

This year there have been a lot of renovations to suites in our
building, paint, sanding and floor varnish and our baseboard heating
system has been changed and the heat poorly controlled which has caused
some reoccurance of reactions.
Considering my age, my efforts to research and apply what i learned
has put me well ahead of others on the support group in Canada for MCS
(Multiple Chemical sensitivity)

I also react strongly to electro magnetic fields, cell phones, radio
towers, streetcar cables and high speed internet connection.
Rosie i know you have dismissed all this but it has been verified by
others who have witnessed my reacations.

That should be enough TMI about me for another year.

--
Diva
********
Still Alive, Year Five -219/141
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Old November 15th, 2003, 03:41 PM
rosie read and post
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yes, i am aware of your physical history carol.................what i
meant was why do you believe your immune system was compromised due to a
thyroid supplement?

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rosie

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one's enemy is the best teacher.
...............................dalai lama







"Carol Frilegh" wrote in message
...
In article , rosie read
and post wrote:

On the other hand, the less medication, the better for my immune

system.
The option is mine.



would you elucidate on that immune system compromise comment?


I lost my weight over time and reached an ideal level in late 1999. My
physical health had always been excellent except for more frequent

head
colds before I lost weight.

As you know i had taken lithium for 15 years and came off off it under
medical supervision. In Feb. 2000 I had pneumonia lost 19% use of one
lung ( now restored) and was given an anti biotic. in March
I reluctantly took a diminishing two week course of prednisone to
disolve nasal polyps. An allergist took exception to the "pred' and
even though the polyps wre gone, gave me several cortisone nasal
sprays, of which each had side effcts. i started a series of

injections
for Dust Mite Allergy and then all hell broke loose. A near
anaphylactic reaction to the injections. Acute senitivity to foods,
synthetic materials and rubber. I was in constant gastric pain and had
terrible reactions to ecerything but cotton.

We have an MCS evaluation clinic at our largest hospital and teaching
center, Sunnybrook. I was diagnosed with ideopathic environmental
illness and slaved for the next few years to simplify my personal
environment. When I began to react to grains and even rice i went on
the SCD diet and showed great improvement and better food tolerance.

This year there have been a lot of renovations to suites in our
building, paint, sanding and floor varnish and our baseboard heating
system has been changed and the heat poorly controlled which has

caused
some reoccurance of reactions.
Considering my age, my efforts to research and apply what i learned
has put me well ahead of others on the support group in Canada for MCS
(Multiple Chemical sensitivity)

I also react strongly to electro magnetic fields, cell phones, radio
towers, streetcar cables and high speed internet connection.
Rosie i know you have dismissed all this but it has been verified by
others who have witnessed my reacations.

That should be enough TMI about me for another year.

--
Diva
********
Still Alive, Year Five -219/141



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Old November 15th, 2003, 04:48 PM
Jennifer A
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"Carol Frilegh" wrote in message
...

We have an MCS evaluation clinic at our largest hospital and teaching
center, Sunnybrook. I was diagnosed with ideopathic environmental
illness and slaved for the next few years to simplify my personal
environment. When I began to react to grains and even rice i went on
the SCD diet and showed great improvement and better food tolerance.

This year there have been a lot of renovations to suites in our
building, paint, sanding and floor varnish and our baseboard heating
system has been changed and the heat poorly controlled which has caused
some reoccurance of reactions.
Considering my age, my efforts to research and apply what i learned
has put me well ahead of others on the support group in Canada for MCS
(Multiple Chemical sensitivity)

I also react strongly to electro magnetic fields, cell phones, radio
towers, streetcar cables and high speed internet connection.
Rosie i know you have dismissed all this but it has been verified by
others who have witnessed my reacations.

That should be enough TMI about me for another year.

--
Diva
********
Still Alive, Year Five -219/141


My mom, who is in her mid 50's, had to retire early from her nursing career
because of a sudden onset of MCS. She went to work one day and had an
anaphylactic reaction and nearly died. It was sudden and numerous tests and
evaluations later found out she was allergic to many of the chemicals
(formaldehyde, latex, etc.) used in the hospital. She's had to totally redo
her environment and carries an epi pen because simply going to a doctor's
office will cause a reaction for her. She's also had to modify her WOE
because of food sensitivities that came along with this.
It's not a fun way to live and I wouldn't trade places with her or with you.

BTW there is a school in Oak Park, IL (I believe) that is being sued by
parents over the use of a wi fi network.

Jenn


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Old November 15th, 2003, 06:51 PM
Brad Sheppard
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Default Thyroid Dilemma

I'd ask my doc for his/her advice.

Carol Frilegh wrote in message ...
I've been taking the lowest dosage of Eltroxin, a synthetic thyroid
extract for years as I have hypothyroidism and with medication the "T"
levels are normal Now that I've lost weight and kept it off, I
discussed going off the supplement for six weeks with the doctor who
approves.

But I still have hair loss run a very low temp and am often fatigued
even with tetsibg normal My waking temp is below 96.
One of the side effects of stopping Eltroxin could be weight gain.
On the other hand, the less medication, the better for my immune system.
The option is mine.

What would you do?

  #9  
Old November 15th, 2003, 08:08 PM
Carol Frilegh
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Default Thyroid Dilemma

In article , rosie read
and post wrote:

yes, i am aware of your physical history carol.................what i
meant was why do you believe your immune system was compromised due to a
thyroid supplement?


I never thought about it until lately when the author of the SCD diet
said to check with my GP about reducing or stopping thyroid meds.

--
Diva
*****
The Best Man for the Job May Be A Woman
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Old November 15th, 2003, 09:25 PM
Cat
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Default Thyroid Dilemma

What were you doing in Russia?

Cat

"Ignoramus26064" wrote in message
...
In article , Carol Frilegh wrote:
I've been taking the lowest dosage of Eltroxin, a synthetic thyroid
extract for years as I have hypothyroidism and with medication the "T"
levels are normal Now that I've lost weight and kept it off, I
discussed going off the supplement for six weeks with the doctor who
approves.

But I still have hair loss run a very low temp and am often fatigued
even with tetsibg normal My waking temp is below 96.
One of the side effects of stopping Eltroxin could be weight gain.
On the other hand, the less medication, the better for my immune system.
The option is mine.

What would you do?


I also take thyroid supplements (the Russian natural cow derived
hormone). Synthroid has no effect on me for some strange reason. I
need to take them due to a partial thyroidectomy 10 years ago.

Some general signs of thyroid hormone deficiency are low temp, low
pulse, low energy, feeling fatigued, and hair loss. I always had low
pulse due to my running. My pulse is 54-56 these days after walking up
to the blood pressure machine. I test my BP and pulse a few times a
week as the machine is located in the same building where I work.

The general advice that I was given in Russia was to go by my feeling
and if I feel symptoms of low thyroid, to increase my dose slightly,
and if I feel hyper, to decrease it slightly, but to average my
condition over a few days to avoid swings.

Here in the US, the consensus seems to be to use tests, but the
doctors who prescribe this medication also listen to patients and how
much they ask for.

So, since you asked for a suggestion, my suggestion would be to
gradually reduce the dose and record your measurements (pulse, body
temp, how you feel etc) in a diary.

Do not make dramatic changes as their effects may not be immediately
apparent.

Also, as you are getting older, some symptoms of aging may look
similar to thyroid deficiency.

Just my layman's opinion, since you asked.

i
223/177/180



 




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