daily food

On Oct 30, 1:34 pm, "Ophelia" wrote:
I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best food for
breakfast.

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

Spread them out through the day. If you're doing protein power, you go
30-40g, and you spread it, roughly evenly over your meals.

Same with protein. If you're supposed to get 100 g, you make sure you
get
35g at each meal.

Dietary Fat just comes with the territory. Don't worry about it.

If you're gonna go high on a carb meal allowance, I've heard that
you're
better off doing it first thing (so you have the day to burn them) and
I've
heard it's best to do it at dinner (serotonin effects on sleep). Since
mileage varies, you might want to experiment a bit.

"Ophelia" writes:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best
food for breakfast.

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

It's not so much that protein is best for breakfast -- fat would be fine
too -- it's just that the foods people tend to think of as breakfast
foods fall into two categories: high protein and high carb. You've got
your eggs, meat, and protein powder shakes on one side; and cereal,
toast, and juice on the other side. What people with touchy blood sugar
have found is that X grams of carbs at breakfast will spike their blood
sugar more than X grams of carbs later in the day.

However, with low-carbing the high-carb choices are out of the picture
anyway, so *all* your meals will be high-protein and/or high-fat by
mainstream standards. It's best to spread whatever carbs you do eat
throughout the day. Protein Power recommends that in Stage I (30g
limit) you have a 10g maximum per meal, or if you're having snacks
between meals, something like 7g per meal and 5g per snack. For most
people, 10g of less at breakfast won't be a problem, and you'll only
know it's a problem for you if you test your blood sugar.

My breakfast of bacon and eggs has somewhere around 5g of carbs (keep in
mind that eggs and cured meats both have a small amount), so that's
enough for me, and I spread the other 5g out over the other meals and
snacks of the day. What you want to avoid is putting all your carbs for
the day into any one meal, whether that's 20g on Induction or 50+ later
in your progress, because that will stress your insulin response harder
right after that meal than spreading it out would.



--
Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

Hollywood wrote:
On Oct 30, 1:34 pm, "Ophelia" wrote:
I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best
food for breakfast.

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

Spread them out through the day. If you're doing protein power, you go
30-40g, and you spread it, roughly evenly over your meals.

Same with protein. If you're supposed to get 100 g, you make sure you
get
35g at each meal.

Dietary Fat just comes with the territory. Don't worry about it.

If you're gonna go high on a carb meal allowance, I've heard that
you're
better off doing it first thing (so you have the day to burn them) and
I've
heard it's best to do it at dinner (serotonin effects on sleep). Since
mileage varies, you might want to experiment a bit.

Thank you Hollywood

Aaron Baugher wrote:
"Ophelia" writes:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best
food for breakfast.

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

It's not so much that protein is best for breakfast -- fat would be
fine too -- it's just that the foods people tend to think of as
breakfast foods fall into two categories: high protein and high carb.
You've got your eggs, meat, and protein powder shakes on one side;
and cereal, toast, and juice on the other side. What people with
touchy blood sugar have found is that X grams of carbs at breakfast
will spike their blood sugar more than X grams of carbs later in the
day.

However, with low-carbing the high-carb choices are out of the picture
anyway, so *all* your meals will be high-protein and/or high-fat by
mainstream standards. It's best to spread whatever carbs you do eat
throughout the day. Protein Power recommends that in Stage I (30g
limit) you have a 10g maximum per meal, or if you're having snacks
between meals, something like 7g per meal and 5g per snack. For most
people, 10g of less at breakfast won't be a problem, and you'll only
know it's a problem for you if you test your blood sugar.

My breakfast of bacon and eggs has somewhere around 5g of carbs (keep
in mind that eggs and cured meats both have a small amount), so that's
enough for me, and I spread the other 5g out over the other meals and
snacks of the day. What you want to avoid is putting all your carbs
for the day into any one meal, whether that's 20g on Induction or 50+
later in your progress, because that will stress your insulin
response harder right after that meal than spreading it out would.

Thank you Aaron! I am taking it all on board

You may remember me when I did meat and proteins only. It did work and I
lost weight but I do believe you were all right about it not being the
healthiest. The big plus for that though was that I was never hungry!

I am determined to be sensible this time, not get on any scales and get as
healthy as I can

"Ophelia" wrote:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best food for
breakfast.

That depends on what plan you're on and what your current carb
quota is.

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

"Must" is the wrong word. It works best to follow the directions of
your plan of choice and every single well known plan includes
carbs.

At a quota of 20 something like bacon and eggs for breakfast works
well because a couple of eggs is 1 gram and the bacon may be
cured in a way to make it 1 gram for two slices. A mug of coffee
can have another gram since a small cup is also a half. That's 3
grams at breakfast leaving 17 for the rest of the day. It's easy to
get to 17 with cauliflower and such.

At a quota of 50, trying to get there with cauliflower means you need
to eat a serving of cauliflower the size of your head. It's not
practical
to do that. But a quarter cup of steel cut oats slow cooked over
night into a cup of hot cereal is close to 20 grams for breakfast and
that will make the other 30 grams for the rest of the day much easier.
Of course if you want to flavor your oats brown sugar or Lyle's
Golden is not the choice. Butter and/or cream is the choice, at a
half gram per tablespoon.

Calorie for calorie, protein and fat are more satiating than carbs.
They last longer so hunger doesn't happen until later. Calorie for
calorie, fiber carbs are more filling than sugar and starch carbs.
Hot cereal like steel cut oats has far more fiber than junk cold
cereal like Captn Crunch. So at a low quota go with the high fat
protein foods and at higher quota go with the high fiber carbier
choice.

Doug Freyburger wrote:
"Ophelia" wrote:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best
food for breakfast.

That depends on what plan you're on and what your current carb
quota is.

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

"Must" is the wrong word. It works best to follow the directions of
your plan of choice and every single well known plan includes
carbs.

I meant that when I have egg and bacon for brekky there are carbs in it!!
It is impossible to avoid! Sheesh I am getting confuddled

At a quota of 20 something like bacon and eggs for breakfast works
well because a couple of eggs is 1 gram and the bacon may be
cured in a way to make it 1 gram for two slices. A mug of coffee
can have another gram since a small cup is also a half. That's 3
grams at breakfast leaving 17 for the rest of the day. It's easy to
get to 17 with cauliflower and such.

At a quota of 50, trying to get there with cauliflower means you need
to eat a serving of cauliflower the size of your head. It's not
practical
to do that. But a quarter cup of steel cut oats slow cooked over
night into a cup of hot cereal is close to 20 grams for breakfast and
that will make the other 30 grams for the rest of the day much easier.
Of course if you want to flavor your oats brown sugar or Lyle's
Golden is not the choice. Butter and/or cream is the choice, at a
half gram per tablespoon.

Calorie for calorie, protein and fat are more satiating than carbs.
They last longer so hunger doesn't happen until later. Calorie for
calorie, fiber carbs are more filling than sugar and starch carbs.
Hot cereal like steel cut oats has far more fiber than junk cold
cereal like Captn Crunch. So at a low quota go with the high fat
protein foods and at higher quota go with the high fiber carbier
choice.

Thanks Doug

btw I am saving all the useful posts so I can refer back to them

Ophelia wrote:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best food for
breakfast.

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

It is nice to see here, Ophelia, I know you from another newsgroup.

Hello everybody, I am new here. I have been living "La Vita Low Carb"
for about 6 weeks. I went on a cruise 2 weeks ago and I stayed on my
diet, losing 2 pounds during the cruise. I was so proud of myself. LOL

Ophelia, at breakfast, I choose either ham, bacon or sausage and I eat
eggs. I could eat vegetables, but they take a little time to cook, and
eggs cook so much faster. During the day, I get my carbs from
vegetables, nuts, cheese. I also eat chicken salad, tuna salad, seafood
salad.

Becca

Becca wrote:
Ophelia wrote:

I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best
food for breakfast.

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

It is nice to see here, Ophelia, I know you from another newsgroup.

Hi Becca) Lovely to see you here too)


Hello everybody, I am new here. I have been living "La Vita Low Carb"
for about 6 weeks. I went on a cruise 2 weeks ago and I stayed on my
diet, losing 2 pounds during the cruise. I was so proud of myself. LOL

I am very impressed!!



Ophelia, at breakfast, I choose either ham, bacon or sausage and I eat
eggs. I could eat vegetables, but they take a little time to cook,
and eggs cook so much faster. During the day, I get my carbs from
vegetables, nuts, cheese. I also eat chicken salad, tuna salad,
seafood salad.

Many thanks Becca

"Ophelia" writes:

You may remember me when I did meat and proteins only. It did work
and I lost weight but I do believe you were all right about it not
being the healthiest. The big plus for that though was that I was
never hungry!

Well, I currently don't eat a lot of vegetables or fruit myself; it's
mostly meat, eggs, and cheese for me right now, with maybe 3-4 servings
of green stuff a week. I do think green leafy vegetables are good for
you, but because of things I've got going on right now, it seems like
most of the veggies I buy go bad in the fridge before I get to them.
Since my primary concern right now is stabilizing my blood sugar and
improving insulin sensitivity, I'm not especially concerned about
veggies, though I'm sure I'll be eating more of them in the spring. For
now, if I'm not having cravings or other symptoms of carbs, I'm happy.
That's just me, though.

I've also started avoiding food shipped from thousands of miles away,
within reason; and since I didn't have a garden this year to preserve
anything from, that limits the options this time of year too. I do have
a source of Swiss chard that's still going strong, and that's an
excellent green that stands up to a lot of cold weather. Local
broccoli, cabbage, turnips, and a few other things will still be
available until the first hard frost.

Oh, another thing I just discovered is home-roasted pumpkin seeds.
These things are *excellent* -- so much better than the woody things you
can buy in the store that there's no comparison. If you've never had
them, do yourself a favor and make some. Just take the seeds out of a
pumpkin and rinse them and sort out any pulp so you just have the seeds.
Soak them in sal****er (as much salt as the water will hold) for 24-48
hours, then drain them and spread them out on cookie sheets and bake for
40-50 minutes at 300 degrees, shaking them every 10 minutes or so to
stir them around a bit and keep them from sticking to the metal.

After Halloween, I'm going to buy up a bunch of cheap pumpkins and make
a bunch more, and try some different options, like sprinkling them with
cayenne or other spices, coating them with butter before roasting, and
whatever else sounds good. I figure this is the time of year to do it,
when all the leftover pumpkins are for sale.



--
Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

On Oct 31, 1:34 am, "Ophelia" wrote:
I was very interested to see how protein was judged to be the best food for
breakfast.

Give that some carbs must be eaten, what and when, are best please?

I have simplified things - I don't need to count carbs, I just eat
eggs, animal flesh, and green veggies for the most part (lettuces,
broccoli, oh and some cauliflower). I have found that naturally I
crave the veggies along with the meat and eggs, but I never seem to
eat over the carb limit of them. I checked quite few times later in
the evening with fitday, and I am always below 20. I try to have some
eggs and meat for breakfast, some meat and veggies for lunch, and some
meat/fish/chicken with veggies plus a nice big salad for dinner. I'm
always full after that kind of daily menu. It works for me, because I
need something simple. Once in a while I'll throw extra things in,
but I try to keep things the same, to "demystify" the meaning of food
in my life. I want food to be what gives me my energy, and not for it
to be a crutch to hide from my emotions.