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Dr. Andrew B. Chung, Liar WAS: Chung FAQ, Issue 1 (orWhyDoesn'tHeJustShut Up?)
Bob wrote:
Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message om... Wes Groleau wrote: Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote (under the fourth e-mail address I've filtered this week): hiss You poor guy. You remain in my prayers, neighbor. *sigh*. Get busy for a while and the nutcases come out in droves. hiss And you remain as a sock-puppet advertiser of a potentially dangerous and clearly over-simplified approach to the world. For those unfamiliar, Chung claims that weightloss is easy and guaranteed by simply never eating more than two pounds of food a day. That's a wildly over-simplified approach to nutrition, to say the least. hiss Dr. Chung, or someone with a suspiciously similar style and IP address ranges, used to troll misc.health.diabetes as a poster called "Roos" and continues to change email addresses frequently to avoid people's filters who are tired of him tooting his own... Not the same physical person, but they claim to be "friends." Roos now uses variations on the word "Mu" as his handle and still does his very frequent shape shifting to avoid being killfiled or easy to find in Google. hiss sputter hiss hiss well, you can't really call it a horn because it's not on his head..... Right enough. Bob You poor guy. You remain in my prayers, neighbor. FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about reading this message, a few suggestions: (1) Yell at Bob (2) Report Bob to his ISP (3) Killfile this thread. (4) Killfile me. (5) Read about free speech. Bob's pathological obsessions are related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which is described completely at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched: http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have lost the argument soundly at every point: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this discussion thread(s). However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger." Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars. These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following observations were made: (1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously. (2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the discussion(s). (a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to achieve near-ideal weight. (b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight becomes near-ideal. (c) For (b) see: http://makeashorterlink.com/?V5D042C47 (3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s). (4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive). (5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line (including jpegs of the actual diplomas). Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Bob "raging and self-confident" Pastorio: http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero. Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line third-party resources at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily debunked. Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack): (1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or accountability). (2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters. (3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided insults. (4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by cross-posting. (5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD or its author. and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file. It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed. It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery. Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ -- Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?W1F522557 What is all this about? http://makeashorterlink.com/?K57723657 |
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Dr. Andrew B. Chung, Liar WAS: Chung FAQ, Issue 1 (or WhyDoesn't He Just Shut Up?)
Bob wrote in message ...
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote: Wes Groleau wrote: Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote (under the fourth e-mail address I've filtered this week): truth snipped hiss Bob You poor guy. You remain in my prayers, neighbor. FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about reading this message, a few suggestions: (1) Yell at Bob (2) Report Bob to his ISP (3) Killfile this thread. (4) Killfile me. (5) Read about free speech. Bob's pathological obsessions are related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which is described completely at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched: http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have lost the argument soundly at every point: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this discussion thread(s). However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger." Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars. These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following observations were made: (1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously. (2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the discussion(s). (a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to achieve near-ideal weight. (b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight becomes near-ideal. (c) For (b) see: http://makeashorterlink.com/?V5D042C47 (3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s). (4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive). (5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line (including jpegs of the actual diplomas). Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Bob "raging and self-confident" Pastorio: http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero. Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line third-party resources at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily debunked. Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack): (1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or accountability). (2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters. (3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided insults. (4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by cross-posting. (5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD or its author. and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file. It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed. It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery. Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ -- Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?W1F522557 What is all this about? http://makeashorterlink.com/?K57723657 |
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Dr. Andrew B. Chung, Liar WAS: Chung FAQ, Issue 1 (or WhyDoesn'tHeJust Shut Up?)
"Bob" wrote in message ... Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: *sigh*. Get busy for a while and the nutcases come out in droves. Not droves. Just a few... Does Chung-y Peanut Butter realize that with the substantially identical 200 line suffix ranting about you on the end of every message, he is sending substantially identical posts and is exceeding the "Briedbart Index" of 15 identical messages within a 45-day period for spamming messages and is about to start having his messages cancelled? |
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Dr. Andrew B. Chung, Liar WAS: Chung FAQ, Issue 1 (or WhyDoesn'tHeJust Shut Up?)
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 8:57:24 -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote
(in message ): "Bob" wrote in message ... Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: *sigh*. Get busy for a while and the nutcases come out in droves. Not droves. Just a few... Does Chung-y Peanut Butter realize that with the substantially identical 200 line suffix ranting about you on the end of every message, he is sending substantially identical posts and is exceeding the "Briedbart Index" of 15 identical messages within a 45-day period for spamming messages and is about to start having his messages cancelled? Heh! Would that it were so. As far as I can no one, but no one, honors cancels these days. Good idea though :-) -- Steve Weeding the Lord's Vineyards Since 2003 |
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Dr. Andrew B. Chung, Liar WAS: Chung FAQ, Issue 1 (orWhyDoesn'tHeJust Shut Up?)
Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
"Bob" wrote in message ... Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: *sigh*. Get busy for a while and the nutcases come out in droves. Not droves. Just a few... Does Chung-y Peanut Butter Peanut Butter? Is this a term of endearment from a member of the peanut gallery? realize that with the substantially identical 200 line suffix Substantially? Either it is or it isn't. ranting about you on the end of every message, Bob would like to think everything is about him. He needs the ego boost. he is sending substantially identical posts Is this post one of those identical ones ? and is exceeding the "Briedbart Index" of 15 identical messages within a 45-day period for spamming messages and is about to start having his messages cancelled? Thank you for the kind-hearted warning :-) You poor guy. You remain in my prayers, neighbor. FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about reading this message, a few suggestions: (1) Yell at Nico ;-) (2) Report Nico to his ISP ;-) (3) Killfile this thread. (4) Killfile me. (5) Read about free speech. Nico's pathological obsessions are related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which is described completely at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched: http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have lost the argument soundly at every point: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this discussion thread(s). However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger." Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars. These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following observations were made: (1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously. (2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the discussion(s). (a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to achieve near-ideal weight. (b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight becomes near-ideal. (c) For (b) see: http://makeashorterlink.com/?V5D042C47 (3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s). (4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive). (5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line (including jpegs of the actual diplomas). Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Bob "raging and self-confident" Pastorio: http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero. Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line third-party resources at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily debunked. Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack): (1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or accountability). (2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters. (3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided insults. (4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by cross-posting. (5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD or its author. and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file. It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed. It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery. Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ -- Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?W1F522557 What is all this about? http://makeashorterlink.com/?T2CA21267 |
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