Net Carb

"Doug Freyburger" wrote in message
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Chet Hayes wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:

Think about why Atkins added fiber subtraction to his counting
method late in his life. Mostly it is because Protein Power
did that ... Partially it is because many folks stay on
Induction and it increases the carbs eaten on Induction and
that's generally good since more carbs generally lead to fewer
stalls.
...
Now think about what the original Atkins approach to fiber
deduction was. Insoluble fiber really isn't digested and
really can be deducted. A close inspection of the carb counts
listed in the early editions of his books show this stance.

But solution fiber IS in fact digested by our intestinal
bacteria. That's why eating high-soluble-fiber beans cause
gas.

The trouble with only deducting insoluble fiber is labels
list all fiber not soluble and insoluble separately, so only
deducting the insoluble part is impractical. At first Dr
A didn't recommend deduction but in the end he switched to
deduction because the competition had chosen that option.

Seems you're confused about the difference between thinking and mind
reading. Or did Dr. Atkins discuss his motives and reasoning process
on fiber with you personally? And your extrapolation is nothing but
pure unfounded speculation.

The part about why he originally chose against fiber deduction
is discussed in the 1972, 1993 and 1999 editions of the book
in dicussions of soluble vs insoluble fiber.

The part about why he changed his mind is correctly called
speculation but if you feel it is unfounded feel free to
offer a better reason than combining beating the competition
with the observation that folks eating more veggies tend to
do better on Induction.


Could it have simply been that more of the science regarding the role of
fibre became known and was better understood? I can see how the Atkins
process evolved over time and see the changes as a result of a better
understanding of the science involved. I see something similar in further
refinements in Atkins for Life regarding the glycemic index. It was
mentioned in DANDR and certainly the types of foods allowed in DADR and
DANDR were naturally low glycemic without people really knowing what the
glycemic index/load was. As the science and understanding evolved it gained
in significance in Atkins for Life as AGR.

Sid...

"Doug Freyburger" wrote in message
om...
Chet Hayes wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:

Think about why Atkins added fiber subtraction to his counting
method late in his life. Mostly it is because Protein Power
did that ... Partially it is because many folks stay on
Induction and it increases the carbs eaten on Induction and
that's generally good since more carbs generally lead to fewer
stalls.
...
Now think about what the original Atkins approach to fiber
deduction was. Insoluble fiber really isn't digested and
really can be deducted. A close inspection of the carb counts
listed in the early editions of his books show this stance.

But solution fiber IS in fact digested by our intestinal
bacteria. That's why eating high-soluble-fiber beans cause
gas.

The trouble with only deducting insoluble fiber is labels
list all fiber not soluble and insoluble separately, so only
deducting the insoluble part is impractical. At first Dr
A didn't recommend deduction but in the end he switched to
deduction because the competition had chosen that option.

Seems you're confused about the difference between thinking and mind
reading. Or did Dr. Atkins discuss his motives and reasoning process
on fiber with you personally? And your extrapolation is nothing but
pure unfounded speculation.

The part about why he originally chose against fiber deduction
is discussed in the 1972, 1993 and 1999 editions of the book
in dicussions of soluble vs insoluble fiber.

The part about why he changed his mind is correctly called
speculation but if you feel it is unfounded feel free to
offer a better reason than combining beating the competition
with the observation that folks eating more veggies tend to
do better on Induction.


Could it have simply been that more of the science regarding the role of
fibre became known and was better understood? I can see how the Atkins
process evolved over time and see the changes as a result of a better
understanding of the science involved. I see something similar in further
refinements in Atkins for Life regarding the glycemic index. It was
mentioned in DANDR and certainly the types of foods allowed in DADR and
DANDR were naturally low glycemic without people really knowing what the
glycemic index/load was. As the science and understanding evolved it gained
in significance in Atkins for Life as AGR.

Sid...