Hershey in low carb market

Herseys has a 1 gm carb made with xylitol. no problems with that kind. I've
only had it 2 times but no problem.
Lori
"Dawn Taylor" wrote in message
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On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 18:43:46 GMT, steve
announced in front of God and everybody:

My girlfriend came over the other day and the first thing out of her
mouth, "Guess what? I had chocolate at the supermarket. Hershey's now
has a low-carb bar, and it was yummy."

I looked at her blankly, then sighed. And then I reminded her that it
was junk food.

I think this is going to be an all-too-often occurrence with a lot of
people out there that haven't "realized" that it's not just about
low-carb but low-carb AND real food.

Oh, no! She enjoyed chocolate! Hang her by her heels from the nearest
lamppost!

"I looked at her blankly, then sighed. And then I reminded her that it
was junk food." I can easily imagine my response if my husband spoke
to me that way. The phrase "condescending horse's ass" springs
immediately to mind.

So she got excited about being able to eat Hershey's chocolate as
*part* of a low-carb diet. Good for her. Let the girl live a little,
fer gawd's sake.

Dawn

"Carmen" wrote in message
...
There's some of that "cooling effect" in the mouth that erythritol
lends to things, but no fireworks or pain. The stand alone bars are
called 1 Gram Sugar Carb Bar:
http://www.hersheys1g.com/index1.html

Take care,
Carmen

that is what I meant. I think I called it xylitol. oops
Lori

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On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 at 03:13 GMT, Ignoramus14239 spoke:

And there are plenty more ways to enjoy life without being an
unyielding, puritanical, my-way-or-no-way stick.

Well, we were discussing the OP, and somehow you are shifting the
discussion towards my personality.

I noticed she is doing that. Sounds like she's just mad at someone and
vents her anger at anyone that she misinterprets.

Should he have encouraged her to eat that junk?

Perfectly logical. But logic doesn't work with emotionally unstable
people.


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On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 at 00:33 GMT, The Queen of Cans and Jars spoke:

As I said ... condescending. Maybe that's not how it actually
played in real life, but that's what you offered up here.

that's pretty much how it's written. he doesn't otherwise seem like
a total ass, so i am guessing that he just chose poor wording in
relating the anecdote.

Yes, poor wording perhaps I did write. I didn't consider my
relationship to be the main intent of the message, who cares about
that? Plenty of people apparently. The main intent was that Hershey's
has LC chocolate now. Since this is a LC support group I assumed we'd
be discussing LC Hershey's chocolate, not my relationship.

It's none of anyone's business about my relationship to my girlfriend,
and Dawn was out of place to make derogatory comments about it and
start assuming the type of person I am. On and on she went about
it. She posted without thinking about the repercussions... if she
didn't know it would lead to inflammatory posts then she's socially
unexperienced. If she knew it would lead to inflammatory posts then
she's a trouble maker.

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On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 05:14:26 GMT, The King of Pots and Pans
announced in front of God and everybody:

Yes, poor wording perhaps I did write. I didn't consider my
relationship to be the main intent of the message, who cares about
that? Plenty of people apparently. The main intent was that Hershey's
has LC chocolate now. Since this is a LC support group I assumed we'd
be discussing LC Hershey's chocolate, not my relationship.

It's none of anyone's business about my relationship to my girlfriend,
and Dawn was out of place to make derogatory comments about it and
start assuming the type of person I am. On and on she went about
it. She posted without thinking about the repercussions... if she
didn't know it would lead to inflammatory posts then she's socially
unexperienced. If she knew it would lead to inflammatory posts then
she's a trouble maker.

All I can say is -- if you don't want your relationship discussed in
the newsgroup, don't discuss your relationship in your posts. That's
how this whole Usenet/discussion/group thing works. You open the door,
it's there for anyone to walk through who chooses to do so.

As for my assuming what sort of a person you are, all I have to go by
is what you post. I apologize for hurting your feelings and making you
uncomfortable. Perhaps you did, indeed, simply misrepresent your
relationship by relating that anecdote. But you've yet to say anything
to give me the impression that you misrepresented yourself.

Not that my opinion should matter to you, anyway.

Dawn

On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 05:05:50 GMT, The King of Pots and Pans
announced in front of God and everybody:

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On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 at 03:13 GMT, Ignoramus14239 spoke:

And there are plenty more ways to enjoy life without being an
unyielding, puritanical, my-way-or-no-way stick.

Well, we were discussing the OP, and somehow you are shifting the
discussion towards my personality.

I noticed she is doing that. Sounds like she's just mad at someone and
vents her anger at anyone that she misinterprets.

Should he have encouraged her to eat that junk?

Perfectly logical. But logic doesn't work with emotionally unstable
people.

Wow. I really hit a nerve with you two guys, didn't I?

Yikes.

Dawn

(LCer09) wrote in message ...
She was an ignorant child wrt eating fraudulent frankenfoods.

Ahhh. So it's not a matter of my being incorrect, it's a matter of you
thinking it's perfectly okay for him to speak to his girlfriend that
way.

Gotcha.

"Success at personal relationships" indeed.

Dawn


I have to wonder how long any of these guys have been married. As someone who
has been with my husband for well over a decade I can say that I wouldn't have
stuck around long if I was referred to or treated as "a child". And consider my
relationship quite successful. Then again, some women LIKE being "Daddy's baby"
or nonsense like that. As nauseating as it may seem to the rest of us.

I'm wondering how everyone knows what really went down.

How do we know that after he did his "sigh" over the offending
food..that she didn't respond "sigh" Your spenda and cocoa in your
morning coffee isn't such a good food either.

Then they both laughed.

And went about their bussiness.

Both perhaps sarcastic asses, if ya like. But neither worring about
it more than the conversation took place...all of 20 seconds.

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On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 at 05:25 GMT, Dawn Taylor spoke:
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 05:14:26 GMT, The King of Pots and Pans
announced in front of God and everybody:

As for my assuming what sort of a person you are, all I have to go
by is what you post. I apologize for hurting your feelings and
making you uncomfortable. Perhaps you did, indeed, simply
misrepresent your relationship by relating that anecdote. But you've
yet to say anything to give me the impression that you
misrepresented yourself.

Apology accepted. I have a great relationship with my girlfriend and
we love each other very much. I could never say anything bad about
her. I treat her with the utmost respect. If she wants chocolate, I'll
buy it for her; I have. We help each other. We're very close. We are a
team.

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Subject: Hershey in low carb market
From: steve lid
Date: 4/5/04 11:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: CNhcc.122045$Bg.87714@fed1read03

My girlfriend came over the other day and the first thing out of her
mouth, "Guess what? I had chocolate at the supermarket. Hershey's now
has a low-carb bar, and it was yummy."

I looked at her blankly, then sighed. And then I reminded her that it
was junk food.

I think this is going to be an all-too-often occurrence with a lot of
people out there that haven't "realized" that it's not just about
low-carb but low-carb AND real food.

My boyfriend has type 2 diabetis. I got him sugar free hershey's for
valentines day... he as complaining about the laxative effect. I had to remind
him of serving sizes sigh. If I could only get him on either Atkins or South
Beach, my life would be perfect.



(p.s. I am getting rid of the alias coderx. I don't like it. Gotta
think up a new one instead of using my real name.)

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Kathy, born Renee Karyn Racine

Permanent good can never be the outcome of untruth and violence.
--Mahatma Gandhi
Peace is not merely a distant goal that we seek, but a means by which we arrive
at that goal.
--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

sprudil wrote:
:: "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
:: ...
::: sprudil wrote:
::::: "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
::::: ...
:::::: Doug Freyburger wrote:
:::::::: FOB wrote:
:::::::::
::::::::: If you are eating only "real" food you are being some kind of
::::::::: purist. You can low carb without being a purist about junk
::::::::: food. You can also avoid all junk food without low carbing.
::::::::: They are two different things.
::::::::
:::::::: From 1972 to 1999, Atkins was a process that explicitly
:::::::: minimized junk food. Atkins was both reasonably low carb and
:::::::: reasonably purist.
::::::::
:::::::: Then one day Dr A noticed that he could make millions selling
:::::::: low carb junk, and it all started to change.
::::::
:::::: I can't help but wonder exactly how this went down....is Atkins
:::::: on record as saying something to that effect, or did he just
:::::: recognize that it would help many if specific LC products could
:::::: be brought to market, without the heavy slant on junk food? The
:::::: reason I ask that is due to the simple fact that Dr. A could not
:::::: have made all that organization stuff happen without the company
:::::: and staffers, but while he is ultimately blamed for what has
:::::: transpired, it would all have been well out of his control once
:::::: he let those who had only profit incentive take over.
:::::
::::: I can see all sorts of references in the Atkins books regarding
::::: substitutes and low carb products. Whether or not you are talking
::::: about the cheesecake and candy recipes in the 72 edition or him
::::: crediting his wife from coming up with all sorts of substitutes
::::: in the 1992 edition. "Our cheesecake ia not their cheesecake,
::::: and our pizza is not their pizza", In the 2002 edition he talked
::::: about people using their buyin power and voices to bring more
::::: controlled carbohydrate meal choices and products. "It is the
::::: people who have championed Atkins before you and raised their
::::: voices to create this demand that led to the development of such
::::: products which make doing Atkins easier than ever before".
:::::
::::: "One of the best don't-fall-off-the diet techniques is to eat
::::: foods that substitute for a desired food. If your not-so-secret
::::: desire is for any of the above, or for blintzes, lasagna,
::::: Yorkshire pudding, or even sweets, from chocolate truffles to ice
::::: cream, cheesecake, or strawberry shortcake, then the answer is in
::::: using the ingeniously developed substitutes for these foods I've
::::: provided in the recipe section. Learn to use them. They are
::::: just as much a part of your diet as is a grilled chicken and
::::: tossed salad."
:::::
::::: "All my life I have been a cross between a gourmet and a
::::: gourmand."
:::::
::::: I can go on and on but there's not much point. I think those who
::::: are biased in favour of a rigid set of dietary laws (maybe former
::::: vegetarians for example) will see Atkins as a very rigid dietary
::::: plan that is purist and try to make Atkins low carb the new
::::: vegetarianism. It is clear from Atkins books and his speeches
::::: that he never intended it to be so rigid or restrictive.
:::::
::::: Stressing natural and real food never excluded artificial
::::: sweeteners, desserts, rich food or substitutes. These things
::::: although used in moderation and occasionally were seen as
::::: critical for long term success and not token appeasements to the
::::: masses.
:::::
::::: Sid...
:::
::: Thanks, Sid....interesting how many here see eating substitutes of
::: old favorite foods as a bad thing....obviously not what Dr A
::: thought.
:::
:::
::
:: I have several editions of DANDR, Age Defying Diet, Atkins for Life
:: and the original diet revolution. One thing I will say about the
:: indexes is that they are bad. Although that is true for most books.
:: I wish I had a cdrom version so it would make searching easier. A
:: lot of times I see people attribute stuff to Atkins that he never
:: said or they misinterpret or co-opt for their own bias. I remember
:: reading otherwise but its a hassle to find the edition and the page
:: reference so most of the time I don't bother because its difficult
:: to swim against the tide and I don't have a photographic memory. I
:: do highlight stuff and tab pages but it only helps so much.
::
:: For that matter I wish that I had all of my low carb books on cd rom
:: (Hellers, Eades, Swartzbein, Allan & Lutz) to make searching and
:: comparison easier. Its not that it's equivalent to biblical text
:: it's just that it would make separating out a person's agenda from
:: the original text. And like Doug Freyburger, I like to read all the
:: editions because I like to see the changes over time, the evolutions
:: and yes the few contradictions.
::

It would be a big project, but you can unbind them, scan the pages, do OCR
and build an index, and make your own CDROM. Hmm....that does sound like a
really good idea...I might look into doing it for myself....


:: Sid...