Chinese buffet pig out

"Federal law restricts the growing of
oriental poppies. The kind that produce
opium."
=A0=A0Pan Ohco

Well, you cant grow acres of opium poppies for the purpose of extracting
the opium, in America.

You CAN cultivate any of the dozens of poppies that contain the
alcoloids that produce opium, as garden flowers. Even the poppy seeds
you buy in the grocery store to put on muffins can be cultivated and do
contain a small amount of the alcoloids of the papovar poppy. The most
common red and purple poppies found in any garden contain the alcoloid.
You can also buy dried opium poppy pods for use in floral arrangements.

What you may not know is, in order to produce an ounce of raw opium
requires many acres of poppies. The yield per poppy is minute. You could
grow a few dozen in any garden (legal) and MIGHT get enough raw opium to
smoke one time. (this is of course, illegal)

To produce a significant amount of raw opium requires many acres of
poppies and many workers who, for pennies a day, will go thru the fields
using small razor-like tools to scrape each pod, then go back the next
day to carefully collect the tiny drop of resin from the scrapes. It's
too labor intensive for too small a yeild to be worth the trouble,
unless you happen to live in Afghanistan, say, and are happy to work
many hours for a few pennies and have nothing else to sell.

You can legally buy the most potent of the papovar poppy seeds (Persian
White) on-line from American companies. !5 bucks a gram. Problem is,
from a gram of seeds, you might bring a dozen flowers to maturity, 15 if
you're very lucky. From 15 flowers, you might get two drops of raw
opium. Whoopie.

google for 'where to buy opium poppy seeds". You'll be amazed.

LassChance

"And does she suffer from chronic physical pain?" Roger Zoul

No, and if I did, I would use a NON-opiate for chronic pain. Opiates are
addictive, hadnt you heard?
It's only safe to use opiates occassionally.
Daily use WILL lead to addiction, as many and many a prescription opiate
user can attest.

In pracical terms, since it takes a full growing season and you might
get a dozen flowers to maturity from a gram of seeds...and from the
dozen mature flowers you might get two drops of raw O, enough to smear
on a cigarette and get high once... the addiction factor is pretty moot,
wouldnt you say?.

Taking prescription opiates daily for pain is how people get addicted,
all nice and legal, not from cultivating poppies in their garden for a
once-a-year, one time high.

LassChance

"Download a copy of Afroman's "Because
I Got high," you can play it while you're smoking your next
reefer."~Merengo

Oh, you can bet I'll do that. And Im sure the wsidom contained therein
will overshadow 30 years of personal experience. What's 30 years of good
experiences, compared to one person's bad experience?

Here's an idea---if you dont approve of pot, dont smoke it. Id go to my
grave defending your right to decide for yourself...as Im sure you
would, mine.

LassChance

It seems as if you were pushing the use of
illegal drugs along with her...."~Roger Zoul

Anything wrong with "pushing" freedom of thought?

LassChance

Marsha wrote:
|| JC Der Koenig wrote:
||| It's hard to believe that you're still whining.
|||
||
|| No it's not. They're all still whining.
||
|| Marsha/Ohio

And why not? The winner of that election has plunged the U.S. into the
biggest financial deficit in the history of our country, and it's getting
deeper by the day. He's trying to destroy our social security system. He's
wasting his time trying to get constitutional amendments passed that will
take away the rights of certain segments of Americans (never done before by
any president in history). And I don't even have to mention the sensless
war -- based on the WMD ploy -- that has killed and wounded thousands of
young Americans, has lined the pockets of his oil cronies and tripled the
price of gasoline in the U.S. Not to mention alienated the entire world
(except for his butt buddy only Blair). Do you think that these are good
things?

I've said it before, I am not a democrat -- nor a republican; I just call
'em like I see 'em. I was a big supporter of both Ronald Reagan and Bill
Clinton, two great presidents. Bush's father was OK. But the people that
blindly support this man just because Rush Limbaugh says so astounds me!

There are rumors that Guliani may run for president. That is another
republican whom I would support. He has common sense and guts, and would
represent the American people, not just his chosen few.

All IMO of course!

Peter

Lass Chance_2 wrote:
: You're just a full-on dopie, huh? " Roger Zoul
:
: "Full on"? No. I dont use "body" drugs (cocaine, heroin, meth,
: crack). It's ok with me if others do, as long as they dont steal my
: stuff to finance it.

Do as many drugs as you wish, but don't promote them in newsgroups where who
knows who might be reading...

:
: LassChance

Lass Chance_2 wrote:
: "And does she suffer from chronic physical pain?" Roger Zoul
:
: No, and if I did, I would use a NON-opiate for chronic pain. Opiates
: are addictive, hadnt you heard?
: It's only safe to use opiates occassionally.
: Daily use WILL lead to addiction, as many and many a prescription
: opiate user can attest.
:
: In pracical terms, since it takes a full growing season and you might
: get a dozen flowers to maturity from a gram of seeds...and from the
: dozen mature flowers you might get two drops of raw O, enough to
: smear on a cigarette and get high once... the addiction factor is
: pretty moot, wouldnt you say?.
:
: Taking prescription opiates daily for pain is how people get
: addicted, all nice and legal, not from cultivating poppies in their
: garden for a once-a-year, one time high.

What about the doobies?

Lass Chance_2 wrote:
: It seems as if you were pushing the use of
: illegal drugs along with her...."~Roger Zoul
:
: Anything wrong with "pushing" freedom of thought?

You're promoting pot use, so yeah.

wrote:
: Marengo wrote:
: OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
:
: ||
: || Indeed... but 'shrooms? They lit up the world and helped me
: || want to learn to love life again.
:
: || Psychedelics are true healers if used properly and not abused!
:
:
: You know, I had y ou killfiled for while because there was
: something inherently "off" about your posts. Now I understand.
: You're a druggie. It really explains a lot.
:
: What between the dumb epithets like "dopie" and "druggie" flying
: around, and JC's usual natterings, this thread has become like one of
: those tough-love programs featured on after-school specials. It's so
: touching.

So, do you promote pot use for recreational reasons, too? Are you an MD?

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
In article ,
Marsha wrote:


Marengo wrote:


||| I must admit, I could have used some mind altering drugs after that
||| election. i can only surmise that the majorit of Americans used
||| them before going to the polls.

JC Der Koenig wrote:
|| It's hard to believe that you're still whining.
||

No at all! In fact, it's worked out beautifully. The backlash in the next
election will be astounding.


Go ahead and put Hillary up there on the platform.
You'll be even more of a laughing stock than you
were with Kerry.

Marsha/Ohio

There are those that think Kerry was a "ringer".
Kerry, like Bush, is a member of the Skull and Crossbones Society
Fraternity....

Skull and Bones. Bunch from Yale.

Skull and crossbones is that pirate symbol.

Close enough.

Pastorio