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need info of pro and con of stomach surgery
My sister is thinking of paying for her son to have stomach surgery to
lose weight. He is an adult with children. I am telling her to get both sides of the debate, but she feels the doctor's site is enough information. I would appreciate any feedback or websites that would help me give her more information. Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr. Lubbock, Texas |
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need info of pro and con of stomach surgery
"Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr." wrote in message ... My sister is thinking of paying for her son to have stomach surgery to lose weight. He is an adult with children. I am telling her to get both sides of the debate, but she feels the doctor's site is enough information. I would appreciate any feedback or websites that would help me give her more information. Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr. Lubbock, Texas My father was a very large man, at times over 400lbs at about 6'3". About 15 years ago, he had the surgery where they insert a donut shaped insert in the stomach, to make a sort of "small" stomach with a smaller opening, before the "main" stomach. Sorry, but without talking to him, that is the best I can describe it. On the positive side, he lost a lot of weight. The surgery forced him to really chew his food, and eat small amounts more often. It just wasn't physically possible to overeat anymore. If he over did it, it would all come back out. He was down to about 200 lbs within 1 year. He has kept almost all the weight off to this day...but..... On the negative side, he has had increasing problems in the last 3-4 years keeping ANYTHING down. Even water. The small opening into the main stomach seems to close up at times, and won't allow anything to pass. He has had to go to the hospital a couple times to get re-hydrated intravenously as he has been unable to get even water orally. The stomach simply throws it back up. They have inserted devices and stretched the opening, but so far, the solutions have only been temporary. Certain foods he can no longer eat as well. Gristley meat, bacon, etc. Anything that has can't be ground down easily with his teeth tends to get blocked up. He has said many times he would do it all over again. He would likely be dead already from being overweight, but just keep in mind that ANYTHING can happen, good or bad. Just my story..... Best of luck to you and yours..... GT |
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need info of pro and con of stomach surgery
"GT" wrote in message
... My father was a very large man, at times over 400lbs at about 6'3". About 15 years ago, he had the surgery where they insert a donut shaped insert in the stomach, to make a sort of "small" stomach with a smaller opening, before the "main" stomach. Sorry, but without talking to him, that is the best I can describe it. On the positive side, he lost a lot of weight. The surgery forced him to really chew his food, and eat small amounts more often. It just wasn't physically possible to overeat anymore. If he over did it, it would all come back out. He was down to about 200 lbs within 1 year. He has kept almost all the weight off to this day...but..... On the negative side, he has had increasing problems in the last 3-4 years keeping ANYTHING down. Even water. The small opening into the main stomach seems to close up at times, and won't allow anything to pass. He has had to go to the hospital a couple times to get re-hydrated intravenously as he has been unable to get even water orally. The stomach simply throws it back up. They have inserted devices and stretched the opening, but so far, the solutions have only been temporary. Certain foods he can no longer eat as well. Gristley meat, bacon, etc. Anything that has can't be ground down easily with his teeth tends to get blocked up. My sister had bariatric surgery that went way, way wrong. Her stomach opening shut down with scar tissue, and she, like your dad, GT, could not even keep water down. She eventually had the surgery reversed, as she was dying right before our eyes. That said, I've seen 2 people at my school enjoy fabulous success with the same surgery. It's definitely a huge decision. -- Bird ============================ Contact me at lindabird --- a t --- musician dot o r g |
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need info of pro and con of stomach surgery
I have worked with docs for years and I have the utmost respect for the
profession. I am not one of those nurses who thinks that docs are evil and that none are as smart as we are. A good doc who puts up a web site to promote his surgical skills will follow certain ethical guidelines. But, even then, the doc wants to sell you something. There is nothing wrong with this. We all pretty much sell ourselves for a living but when was the last time you read a resume that highlighted flaws in a person's work history rather than accomplishments. On the flip side, there are some horror stories. I do not doubt for a minute their veracity but I do not think that those results are typical. I saw a lightweight documentary on long term weight loss a while ago. They explored three people who lost weight, one of whom did the bypass surgery. It was successful. What impressed me was the intense nutrition counseling before and after the procedure. A psychological exam was also done. The lifestyle changes are enormous even with the help of surgery. Questions to ask the doc: How many of these procedures have you done? What is the rate of complications? What is the rate of death? What kind of pre-surgical care is given? What kind of post-surgical care is offered? Is there a support group of former patients with whom you may visit? What is covered with the cost of surgery? Anesthesia? All meds? Sometimes there are hidden charges. "Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr." wrote in message ... My sister is thinking of paying for her son to have stomach surgery to lose weight. He is an adult with children. I am telling her to get both sides of the debate, but she feels the doctor's site is enough information. I would appreciate any feedback or websites that would help me give her more information. Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr. Lubbock, Texas |
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need info of pro and con of stomach surgery
Hi Ray,
I know 4 people that have had the surgery done. All of them had the gastric bypass version. Anyway, they all had various complications, some minor and some not so minor. One of my close male friends had it done about 1.5 years ago. He is 6'6" and weighed about 400 lbs. He had a complication with the catheter and he is currently impotent from it due to scar tissue. He is considering a lawsuit. He has lost some weight, but not very much. My best friend had it done as well last October. She has been in and out of the hospital about 6 times with pancreatitis, gastritis and horrendous headaches. She's lost about 120 lbs in 12 months and looks better. However, she didn't work on her eating habits or go to the gym. She is pretty saggy now. She also eats what she wants, just smaller amounts. I can tell that her stomach is stretching because of the amount of food she can now eat. She thought that this surgery would be a cure all and solve her weight problem permanently.... The two other people that had it done have not had any complications that I know about. How I personally feel is that this surgery is a band-aid and does not address the reasons that cause the weight gain. The surgery has alot of complications, many of the really long term ones aren't even known yet. The stomach can stretch... I've heard of several people that had to have the surgery a 2nd time due to the stomach stretching. Gastric banding may be a safer option. However, the weight loss may be minimal and is much less permanent then bypass. In addition, if the issues causing weight gain are not addressed once the band is removed, then the weight loss will not be permanent. I would suggest trying the HMR diet. This diet can be as effective as stomach surgery w/out the pain and suffering. Also, the cost is generally cheaper then the surgery. www.yourbetterhealth.com for info. There is a link there that has a number you can call for a location in your area. I've been on it for 8 weeks now and lost 42 lbs so far. I work out 4-5x a week and feel great. 284/242/199/??? -- Email me at: perpleglow(AT)comcast.net "Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr." wrote in message ... My sister is thinking of paying for her son to have stomach surgery to lose weight. He is an adult with children. I am telling her to get both sides of the debate, but she feels the doctor's site is enough information. I would appreciate any feedback or websites that would help me give her more information. Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr. Lubbock, Texas |
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My SIL had gastric bypass about a year ago. She is very short, perhaps 5
feet, and weighed 225. She lost only 30 pounds, has had hernia repair surgery twice now (caused by the stomach surgery), and still manages to eat too much. It is possible to eat very small amounts many times during the day and still take in too many calories. Our cousin had it done a couple of years ago and had great results. She has lost somewhere in the neighborhood of 130 pounds and looks and feels great. She is also more active and took up regular exercise as she was losing. Melissa "Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr." wrote in message ... My sister is thinking of paying for her son to have stomach surgery to lose weight. He is an adult with children. I am telling her to get both sides of the debate, but she feels the doctor's site is enough information. I would appreciate any feedback or websites that would help me give her more information. Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr. Lubbock, Texas |
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need info of pro and con of stomach surgery
I think somebody needs to stop being the mommy. "Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr." wrote: My sister is thinking of paying for her son to have stomach surgery to lose weight. He is an adult with children. I am telling her to get both sides of the debate, but she feels the doctor's site is enough information. I would appreciate any feedback or websites that would help me give her more information. Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr. Lubbock, Texas |
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need info of pro and con of stomach surgery
Just the other day there was a TV News article about an alternative to gastric by-pass surgery. The docs insert a small device under the skin near the stomach and attach a wire tot he stomach. The device gives small electrical jolts. While they don't yet understand why it works, studies are showing that it does reduce appetite. They said that there have been 27 surgeries in the US. Don't know what it was called, but it might be worth looking into. It's very reversible and doesn't have a lot of the bad side effects associated with the by-pass surgery. Sandy K. |
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need info of pro and con of stomach surgery
On 10/16/2003 9:24 AM, Sandy K. wrote: Just the other day there was a TV News article about an alternative to gastric by-pass surgery. The docs insert a small device under the skin near the stomach and attach a wire tot he stomach. The device gives small electrical jolts. While they don't yet understand why it works, studies are showing that it does reduce appetite. They said that there have been 27 surgeries in the US. Don't know what it was called, but it might be worth looking into. It's very reversible and doesn't have a lot of the bad side effects associated with the by-pass surgery. Sandy, Are you referring to the "stomach pacemaker?" http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH...ewsx24003x7228 It's approved in Europe but not in the US yet. |
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need info of pro and con of stomach surgery
Perple Glow wrote:
My best friend had it done as well last October. She has been in and out of the hospital about 6 times with pancreatitis, gastritis and horrendous headaches. She's lost about 120 lbs in 12 months and looks better. However, she didn't work on her eating habits or go to the gym. She is pretty saggy now. She also eats what she wants, just smaller amounts. I can tell that her stomach is stretching because of the amount of food she can now eat. She thought that this surgery would be a cure all and solve her weight problem permanently.... there were 3 ladies at work that had it done. 1 at Curves 1 regained most of her weight over 10 yrs or so. 1 ate wrong afterwards and had terrible problems with bowel obstructions. 1 I just saw after about 6 months and she looks like she has gained at least 30 lbs back The lady from Curves went from 275 lbs to 145 she is back up to 155 but works out and looks good. she is taller than I am by a few inches. If LC hadn't worked for me this time, I was going to gain enough weight to get a Roue-N-Y procedure. but I've been quite successful this way so I dn't have to think about that anymore. -- Lori 220/147/135 LC since 1/17/03 Oct Challenge 150/145 http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller The two other people that had it done have not had any complications that I know about. How I personally feel is that this surgery is a band-aid and does not address the reasons that cause the weight gain. The surgery has alot of complications, many of the really long term ones aren't even known yet. The stomach can stretch... I've heard of several people that had to have the surgery a 2nd time due to the stomach stretching. Gastric banding may be a safer option. However, the weight loss may be minimal and is much less permanent then bypass. In addition, if the issues causing weight gain are not addressed once the band is removed, then the weight loss will not be permanent. I would suggest trying the HMR diet. This diet can be as effective as stomach surgery w/out the pain and suffering. Also, the cost is generally cheaper then the surgery. www.yourbetterhealth.com for info. There is a link there that has a number you can call for a location in your area. I've been on it for 8 weeks now and lost 42 lbs so far. I work out 4-5x a week and feel great. 284/242/199/??? "Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr." wrote in message ... My sister is thinking of paying for her son to have stomach surgery to lose weight. He is an adult with children. I am telling her to get both sides of the debate, but she feels the doctor's site is enough information. I would appreciate any feedback or websites that would help me give her more information. Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr. Lubbock, Texas |
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