Effort Pays Off When Diabetics Try to Lose Weight

Lady Veteran wrote:

Effort Pays Off When Diabetics Try to Lose Weight
Fri Apr 2,11:18 AM ET

By Amy Norton

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Overweight adults with diabetes who try to lose
weight -- even unsuccessfully -- may live longer than those who don't give
it a go, new research suggests.

Investigators at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
found that among 1,400 diabetics they studied, those who said they had
tried to lose weight in the past year were less likely to die over the next
nine years.

And it didn't matter whether they actually shed any pounds, the researchers
report in the journal Diabetes Care.

The reason may have to do with the overall healthier lifestyles that weight
watchers tend to adopt, according to Dr. Edward W. Gregg and his colleagues
at the CDC in Atlanta. People trying to lose weight, they note, may take up
exercise or eat more nutritious foods, which could make for a longer life
even in the absence of weight loss.

People who attempt to lose weight may also tend to follow more health
recommendations in general, from not smoking to buckling up when driving,
Gregg's team adds.

However, the findings do not necessarily negate the importance of weight
loss for people with diabetes, Gregg told Reuters Health.

Instead, he explained, they highlight a still "unresolved" question:
whether the emphasis should be on shedding excess pounds, or on taking up
healthy lifestyle habits such as regular exercise and improving nutrition
-- even if this doesn't result in weight loss.

The study included 1,401 overweight, diabetic men and women age 35 and
older who were interviewed about their health and lifestyle in 1989. Those
who said they had tried to lose weight during the past year were 23 percent
less likely to die over the next nine years than those who reported no
weight loss effort.

The lower death risk was just as significant among participants who had
tried but failed to lose weight as it was among those who successfully lost
weight, Gregg and his colleagues found.

Exactly why those who actually dropped pounds did not have the lowest death
risk of all study participants is unclear. It may be because they failed to
keep the weight off for the long haul, the study authors speculate. They
asked study participants about weight loss at only one time point, and did
not look at long-term success.

Gregg said that probably the best advice for overweight diabetics would be
to aim for gradual weight loss by "using healthy lifestyle changes in
moderation" -- including exercise, cutting calories, and getting more
fruits, vegetables and whole grains.

SOURCE: Diabetes Care, March 2004.


Interesting... No mention here of whether this was Type 1 or Type 2
diabetes they used in the study. I know a lot of type 1's do well on an
Atkins type diet, and type 2's are better on the WW type.
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:58:06 +0100, Kate Dicey
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Interesting... No mention here of whether this was Type 1 or Type 2
diabetes they used in the study. I know a lot of type 1's do well
on an Atkins type diet, and type 2's are better on the WW type.

You will have to ask the person who originally posted this.

It wasn't me.

Note the email address....my forger likes to list his "hobbies"for
all to see.

LV

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Kate Dicey wrote:

| Interesting... No mention here of whether this was Type 1 or Type 2
| diabetes they used in the study. I know a lot of type 1's do well on
| an Atkins type diet, and type 2's are better on the WW type.

You're joking, right?

MY HbA1c went from 9.0 to 6.0 in 90 days Atkins, and fasting blood glucose
went from 135 to 90 -- with no medications. I eat plenty of healthy
vegetables along with the same moderate amount of meat that I ate
previously.

Please explain how eating a WW type diet with laden with sugary fruit and
high-starch, high glycemic-index vegetables such as potatoes, corn and rice
would possibly lower my BG and HbA1c more.

What a hoot! Voodoo physiology!

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Lady Veteran wrote:
Effort Pays Off When Diabetics Try to Lose Weight
Fri Apr 2,11:18 AM ET

By Amy Norton

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Overweight adults with diabetes who try to lose
weight -- even unsuccessfully -- may live longer than those who don't give
it a go, new research suggests.

Hi

I have a hypothesis that glucose causes aging and is somehow part of the
'biological clock'. It is known for example that you can make a nematode
worm live to be a very very old nematode worm indeed if it is subject to
periods of not starvation but periods where it cant have say 120% of its
calorific requirement. Let's say 70%. But a nematode worm is a very
simple animal. I wonder if the effect has been reproduced in eg mice. It
would be interesting, wouldn't it? I wonder if there have been any
studies of Hb1Ac against longevity, rather than complication outcomes.

I think a google for glucose + nematode worm + longevity might turn up a
lot of hits.

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% now=7.4% : FBG@dx=14mmol/l now 5mmol/l : no wheat for me!

marengo wrote:
Kate Dicey wrote:

Interesting... No mention here of whether this was Type 1 or Type 2
diabetes they used in the study. I know a lot of type 1's do well on
an Atkins type diet, and type 2's are better on the WW type.

You're joking, right?

MY HbA1c went from 9.0 to 6.0 in 90 days Atkins, and fasting blood
glucose went from 135 to 90 -- with no medications. I eat plenty
of healthy vegetables along with the same moderate amount of meat
that I ate previously.

Please explain how eating a WW type diet with laden with sugary
fruit and high-starch, high glycemic-index vegetables such as
potatoes, corn and rice would possibly lower my BG and HbA1c more.

What a hoot! Voodoo physiology!

On the WW diet you eat what you choose, you don't have to eat the above if
you don't want to.


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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 13:49:40 GMT, "marengo"
wrote:

MY HbA1c went from 9.0 to 6.0 in 90 days Atkins, and fasting blood glucose
went from 135 to 90 -- with no medications. I eat plenty of healthy
vegetables along with the same moderate amount of meat that I ate
previously.

Please explain how eating a WW type diet with laden with sugary fruit and
high-starch, high glycemic-index vegetables such as potatoes, corn and rice
would possibly lower my BG and HbA1c more.

What a hoot! Voodoo physiology!

One of my friends, a diagnosed a little over a year ago type 2
diabetic, went to a big meeting on the subject a couple of months ago.
Her blood sugar levels were checked at the door (absolutely perfect),
and as the day progressed, low carb diets were bashed. Toward the end
(blood sugar still well within normal ranges), she was held up as the
model diabetic. Then they put her on the spot, she was asked how she
was doing it. She laughed and told them, "I'm not an ADA poster
child, I'm doing Atkins, and excersize." After the meeting she was
mobbed!

Karen Rodgers

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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 08:30:43 -0800, Marge wrote:

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:46:51 GMT, Lady Veteran
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:58:06 +0100, Kate Dicey
wrote:




Interesting... No mention here of whether this was Type 1 or Type
2 diabetes they used in the study. I know a lot of type 1's do
well on an Atkins type diet, and type 2's are better on the WW
type.

You will have to ask the person who originally posted this.

It wasn't me.

Note the email address....my forger likes to list his "hobbies"for
all to see.

LV

Lady Veteran

Get over the petty spatting. It is the content of the posted
article and who authored it that is important, not who posted it on
this NG.

Marge

Oh, in that case it is a crock of ****.

Your soc-ing in it Marge.

LV


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when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
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People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 18:16:59 GMT, Richard wrote:

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 17:44:33 GMT, Lady Veteran
wrote:

Oh, in that case it is a crock of ****.

*PLONK*

Thank you.

LV


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marengo wrote:

Kate Dicey wrote:

| Interesting... No mention here of whether this was Type 1 or Type 2
| diabetes they used in the study. I know a lot of type 1's do well on
| an Atkins type diet, and type 2's are better on the WW type.

You're joking, right?


Yup - see answer further up (in WW group). For true exprience, swap 'em
over. HD is a type 1. Wanted to see if the impersonator noticed...
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marengo wrote:

Kate Dicey wrote:

| Interesting... No mention here of whether this was Type 1 or Type 2
| diabetes they used in the study. I know a lot of type 1's do well on
| an Atkins type diet, and type 2's are better on the WW type.

You're joking, right?


Yup - see answer further up (in WW group). For true exprience, swap 'em
over. HD is a type 1. Wanted to see if the impersonator noticed...
--
Kate XXXXXX
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!