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Old August 13th, 2004, 10:28 PM
rageforthemachine
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Hi,
I am confused. I am on Atkins induction. The other day I bought a
package of Buddig meat. It is meat and the package says 1 gram carbs so all
is good. Then I read the package and it says it is made with maple sugar and
sugar. Hmmm. Then I looked at Cool Whip, one serving, 2 grams of carbs. Then
the ingredients says it is made with high fructose corn syrup, one of the
big no-nos in the whole world. I know all carbs aren't created equal, but is
very low carbs okay even if it is coming from a dubious source? Do all you
need to do is look at carb content, or do the actual ingredients matter?


  #2  
Old August 13th, 2004, 11:36 PM
Sprgtime
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"rageforthemachine" wrote in message
Hi,
I am confused. I am on Atkins induction. The other day I bought a
package of Buddig meat. It is meat and the package says 1 gram carbs so

all
is good. Then I read the package and it says it is made with maple sugar

and
sugar. Hmmm. Then I looked at Cool Whip, one serving, 2 grams of carbs.

Then
the ingredients says it is made with high fructose corn syrup, one of the
big no-nos in the whole world. I know all carbs aren't created equal, but

is
very low carbs okay even if it is coming from a dubious source? Do all you
need to do is look at carb content, or do the actual ingredients matter?


Actual ingredients definitely matter! I use the ingredient list more than
the grams of carbs when shopping for food. If sugar or corn syrup is in the
ingredient list, it doesn't matter how low the carb count is, I do not
purchase it.

Manufacturer's can make the grams of carbs on the nutrition label smaller by
making serving sizes smaller.
Cool Whip, for example, has only 2 grams of carbs PER SERVING. One serving
of cool whip is 2 Tablespoons There are 25 servings in the average 8-ounce
tub of cool whip. That means that one 8-ounce tub of cool whip has 50
carbs!

Many lunch meats have sugars added - avoid them! If it says honey roasted,
maple sugar, etc. then it's a no-no. Same goes for buying sausage meat &
bacon - find the sugar-free varieties. There are meats available without
sugars added.
(I do purchase jerky that has sugar added because I haven't found any that
doesn't, but I do go for the brands with the least amount of sugar.)

As far as induction goes, the rules are stricter: If it isn't on the
allowed foods list you are to have NONE of it. So anything with sugar in
the ingrediants you can't even have a tiny itty bitty little taste,
regardless of the carb count.

Hope this helps clarify things for you. Good luck getting past Induction
(that's the hardest part).


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Old August 13th, 2004, 11:36 PM
Sprgtime
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"rageforthemachine" wrote in message
Hi,
I am confused. I am on Atkins induction. The other day I bought a
package of Buddig meat. It is meat and the package says 1 gram carbs so

all
is good. Then I read the package and it says it is made with maple sugar

and
sugar. Hmmm. Then I looked at Cool Whip, one serving, 2 grams of carbs.

Then
the ingredients says it is made with high fructose corn syrup, one of the
big no-nos in the whole world. I know all carbs aren't created equal, but

is
very low carbs okay even if it is coming from a dubious source? Do all you
need to do is look at carb content, or do the actual ingredients matter?


Actual ingredients definitely matter! I use the ingredient list more than
the grams of carbs when shopping for food. If sugar or corn syrup is in the
ingredient list, it doesn't matter how low the carb count is, I do not
purchase it.

Manufacturer's can make the grams of carbs on the nutrition label smaller by
making serving sizes smaller.
Cool Whip, for example, has only 2 grams of carbs PER SERVING. One serving
of cool whip is 2 Tablespoons There are 25 servings in the average 8-ounce
tub of cool whip. That means that one 8-ounce tub of cool whip has 50
carbs!

Many lunch meats have sugars added - avoid them! If it says honey roasted,
maple sugar, etc. then it's a no-no. Same goes for buying sausage meat &
bacon - find the sugar-free varieties. There are meats available without
sugars added.
(I do purchase jerky that has sugar added because I haven't found any that
doesn't, but I do go for the brands with the least amount of sugar.)

As far as induction goes, the rules are stricter: If it isn't on the
allowed foods list you are to have NONE of it. So anything with sugar in
the ingrediants you can't even have a tiny itty bitty little taste,
regardless of the carb count.

Hope this helps clarify things for you. Good luck getting past Induction
(that's the hardest part).


--
Spring
LC since 1/1/04
260/208/170
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spr...=/55b8&.src=ph
Size: 24W / 14 / 10


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Old August 14th, 2004, 01:35 AM
Bev-Ann
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You'll get different answers depending on the plan people are following. I
follow the Protein Power Plan and "a carb is a carb" no matter the source.
Other plans look at something called the glycemic index which measures how
the individual ingredient affects the blood sugar level. Still others do a
combination of both.
So in the end I think it depends on the plan you chose to follow and how
strict you are with it. If you are on a plan that avoids all high-glycemic
index foods, like sugars, then those 2 items might be a no-no for you. For
me, they're acceptable and I have used them without problems.

on Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:28:02 GMT, "rageforthemachine"
wrote:

Hi,
I am confused. I am on Atkins induction. The other day I bought a
package of Buddig meat. It is meat and the package says 1 gram carbs so all
is good. Then I read the package and it says it is made with maple sugar and
sugar. Hmmm. Then I looked at Cool Whip, one serving, 2 grams of carbs. Then
the ingredients says it is made with high fructose corn syrup, one of the
big no-nos in the whole world. I know all carbs aren't created equal, but is
very low carbs okay even if it is coming from a dubious source? Do all you
need to do is look at carb content, or do the actual ingredients matter?


-----
Bev
  #5  
Old August 14th, 2004, 01:35 AM
Bev-Ann
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You'll get different answers depending on the plan people are following. I
follow the Protein Power Plan and "a carb is a carb" no matter the source.
Other plans look at something called the glycemic index which measures how
the individual ingredient affects the blood sugar level. Still others do a
combination of both.
So in the end I think it depends on the plan you chose to follow and how
strict you are with it. If you are on a plan that avoids all high-glycemic
index foods, like sugars, then those 2 items might be a no-no for you. For
me, they're acceptable and I have used them without problems.

on Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:28:02 GMT, "rageforthemachine"
wrote:

Hi,
I am confused. I am on Atkins induction. The other day I bought a
package of Buddig meat. It is meat and the package says 1 gram carbs so all
is good. Then I read the package and it says it is made with maple sugar and
sugar. Hmmm. Then I looked at Cool Whip, one serving, 2 grams of carbs. Then
the ingredients says it is made with high fructose corn syrup, one of the
big no-nos in the whole world. I know all carbs aren't created equal, but is
very low carbs okay even if it is coming from a dubious source? Do all you
need to do is look at carb content, or do the actual ingredients matter?


-----
Bev
  #6  
Old August 14th, 2004, 01:35 AM
Bev-Ann
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You'll get different answers depending on the plan people are following. I
follow the Protein Power Plan and "a carb is a carb" no matter the source.
Other plans look at something called the glycemic index which measures how
the individual ingredient affects the blood sugar level. Still others do a
combination of both.
So in the end I think it depends on the plan you chose to follow and how
strict you are with it. If you are on a plan that avoids all high-glycemic
index foods, like sugars, then those 2 items might be a no-no for you. For
me, they're acceptable and I have used them without problems.

on Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:28:02 GMT, "rageforthemachine"
wrote:

Hi,
I am confused. I am on Atkins induction. The other day I bought a
package of Buddig meat. It is meat and the package says 1 gram carbs so all
is good. Then I read the package and it says it is made with maple sugar and
sugar. Hmmm. Then I looked at Cool Whip, one serving, 2 grams of carbs. Then
the ingredients says it is made with high fructose corn syrup, one of the
big no-nos in the whole world. I know all carbs aren't created equal, but is
very low carbs okay even if it is coming from a dubious source? Do all you
need to do is look at carb content, or do the actual ingredients matter?


-----
Bev
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Old August 14th, 2004, 01:37 AM
Crafting Mom
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rageforthemachine wrote:
big no-nos in the whole world. I know all carbs aren't created equal, but is
very low carbs okay even if it is coming from a dubious source? Do all you
need to do is look at carb content, or do the actual ingredients matter?


Actual ingredients matter (in my opinion of course). When I ignored
"carb count" and just went for low-carb real foods I found a tremendous
appetite suppression. This includes stuff like Hellman's/Best Foods
Mayonnaise (and yes, I do know the difference between mayonnaise and
"miracle whip"), ketchup, bottled dressings, etc etc.

For a long time I was a very strict real-foodie with Low Carb. That's
pretty much because 99% of the time I am a strict real-foodie with
regular carb (fruits/whole grains/etc). I would have found it highly
contradictory to switch from a reasonably healthy, albeit higher carb,
diet to a junky one just because the carbs are low.

There will be others who will say "oh the carb count is so negligible
that the presence of sugar doesn't matter", but really, when you think
of it... sugar is only 4 grams a teaspoon, which is what some people put
in their coffee (I can't stand sweetened coffee). By that reasoning,
anything can be low-carb; it's just the count that matters. One small
bite of a snickers bar can be 5 grams, etc...

Just my own opinion, interpret accordingly.
Crafting Mom
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Old August 14th, 2004, 01:37 AM
Crafting Mom
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rageforthemachine wrote:
big no-nos in the whole world. I know all carbs aren't created equal, but is
very low carbs okay even if it is coming from a dubious source? Do all you
need to do is look at carb content, or do the actual ingredients matter?


Actual ingredients matter (in my opinion of course). When I ignored
"carb count" and just went for low-carb real foods I found a tremendous
appetite suppression. This includes stuff like Hellman's/Best Foods
Mayonnaise (and yes, I do know the difference between mayonnaise and
"miracle whip"), ketchup, bottled dressings, etc etc.

For a long time I was a very strict real-foodie with Low Carb. That's
pretty much because 99% of the time I am a strict real-foodie with
regular carb (fruits/whole grains/etc). I would have found it highly
contradictory to switch from a reasonably healthy, albeit higher carb,
diet to a junky one just because the carbs are low.

There will be others who will say "oh the carb count is so negligible
that the presence of sugar doesn't matter", but really, when you think
of it... sugar is only 4 grams a teaspoon, which is what some people put
in their coffee (I can't stand sweetened coffee). By that reasoning,
anything can be low-carb; it's just the count that matters. One small
bite of a snickers bar can be 5 grams, etc...

Just my own opinion, interpret accordingly.
Crafting Mom
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Old August 14th, 2004, 06:56 AM
Chet Hayes
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Crafting Mom wrote in message ...
rageforthemachine wrote:
big no-nos in the whole world. I know all carbs aren't created equal, but is
very low carbs okay even if it is coming from a dubious source? Do all you
need to do is look at carb content, or do the actual ingredients matter?


Actual ingredients matter (in my opinion of course). When I ignored
"carb count" and just went for low-carb real foods I found a tremendous
appetite suppression. This includes stuff like Hellman's/Best Foods
Mayonnaise (and yes, I do know the difference between mayonnaise and
"miracle whip"), ketchup, bottled dressings, etc etc.

For a long time I was a very strict real-foodie with Low Carb. That's
pretty much because 99% of the time I am a strict real-foodie with
regular carb (fruits/whole grains/etc). I would have found it highly
contradictory to switch from a reasonably healthy, albeit higher carb,
diet to a junky one just because the carbs are low.

There will be others who will say "oh the carb count is so negligible
that the presence of sugar doesn't matter", but really, when you think
of it... sugar is only 4 grams a teaspoon, which is what some people put
in their coffee (I can't stand sweetened coffee). By that reasoning,
anything can be low-carb; it's just the count that matters. One small
bite of a snickers bar can be 5 grams, etc...

Just my own opinion, interpret accordingly.
Crafting Mom




The real issue here is what the size is. If a 1/4 pound piece of that
meat only has 1g carb, then it's fine. If it has 1g per thin slice
and you eat 10 slices, then you just had 10 grams. Same thing with
cool whip. If you use a small squirt on your sugar free jello, its
only 2 carbs, but if you eat a bowl full, it's a whole lot more.
Since during induction you're supposed to be on a restricted list of
foods, I'd stay away from the cool whip, at least for now, especially
when you can easily whip up some cream yourself.
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Old August 14th, 2004, 06:56 AM
Chet Hayes
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Crafting Mom wrote in message ...
rageforthemachine wrote:
big no-nos in the whole world. I know all carbs aren't created equal, but is
very low carbs okay even if it is coming from a dubious source? Do all you
need to do is look at carb content, or do the actual ingredients matter?


Actual ingredients matter (in my opinion of course). When I ignored
"carb count" and just went for low-carb real foods I found a tremendous
appetite suppression. This includes stuff like Hellman's/Best Foods
Mayonnaise (and yes, I do know the difference between mayonnaise and
"miracle whip"), ketchup, bottled dressings, etc etc.

For a long time I was a very strict real-foodie with Low Carb. That's
pretty much because 99% of the time I am a strict real-foodie with
regular carb (fruits/whole grains/etc). I would have found it highly
contradictory to switch from a reasonably healthy, albeit higher carb,
diet to a junky one just because the carbs are low.

There will be others who will say "oh the carb count is so negligible
that the presence of sugar doesn't matter", but really, when you think
of it... sugar is only 4 grams a teaspoon, which is what some people put
in their coffee (I can't stand sweetened coffee). By that reasoning,
anything can be low-carb; it's just the count that matters. One small
bite of a snickers bar can be 5 grams, etc...

Just my own opinion, interpret accordingly.
Crafting Mom




The real issue here is what the size is. If a 1/4 pound piece of that
meat only has 1g carb, then it's fine. If it has 1g per thin slice
and you eat 10 slices, then you just had 10 grams. Same thing with
cool whip. If you use a small squirt on your sugar free jello, its
only 2 carbs, but if you eat a bowl full, it's a whole lot more.
Since during induction you're supposed to be on a restricted list of
foods, I'd stay away from the cool whip, at least for now, especially
when you can easily whip up some cream yourself.
 




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