Thinking about goal weight and maintenance

Great pictures and what scenery. No wonder you love hiking so much.
Absolutely breathtaking. Next time how about including more pictures of
yourself. g.

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Okay, it was a fast job.....

http://fjk6515.home.att.net/jpg_EagleCapMap.htm

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:07:31 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .


On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:00:43 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Well, on Veteran's Day, Tues, I did do a hike and there was very
little snow, at least, none making the hike slippery like the one on
Sunday. The one I did on Tues, was the mountain that was the basis
for that odd series "Twin Peaks." It is very close to Seattle and
is
more the foothills - about 3,400 feet of UP hiking but the last rain
washed away all the icy snow that gets packed on the trail. Later
in
the year, I call it a vertical ICE RINK and sometimes use instep
crampons to prevent a bad fall. Depending on location, there is
from
a few inches to about a foot or a bit more. But more is expected
this
weekend so mountain hiking will be coming to an end until
cross-country skiing takes over. I will occasionally do snowshoeing
when the conditions for skiing are bad but prefer the x-country
skiing
some of it very backcountry.

The ICE RINK sounds dangerous, good thing you switch to skiing for
awhile.
I've never gone skiing or ice shoeing, but it sounds like fun and a
good
workout.

It can be which is why I use special equipment. I prefer it when it
is just dirt but when cabin fever sets in, I do it when the ski
conditions are poor and I want good exercise. I am less agressive
cross-country skiing than I use to be but still really enjoy the
backcountry.

I think I would prefer the ground being just dirt as well, but like you
say,
cabin fever could drive you nuts and getting outside does feel great,
even
if it does mean strapping on the crampons (I had to ask DH what these
were)
and going for a hike on the vertical ice rink!

I don't get more than a few hundred feet above sea level here, so no need
for all the safety equipment if out walking.


I will see what I can upload. I made a music, accompanied slide
show
of a bunch of different hikes but it is too large to upload to my
webpage.

I have been taking the digital camera on most hikes when I think
that
I may capture different friends or slightly different lighting or
color (Fall) but sometimes want to go a bit lighter in weight and
leave it home if it is a repeat hike. Maybe I should try posting my
Oregon backpack....

I'd love to see them and sure everyone else would too.

I will have to work on them and annotate them and then see what kind
of space I have on AT&T

Sounds good. We're hoping to get a web page together at some point (soon
as
we find time), and once that's done I'll try to get some pictures of our
area on there for everyone to see. I've got a few great pictures taken
years ago from the top of the Caren Range, looking out over the strait
toward Vancouver Island, then others looking across from the opposite
side
of the same mountain range, showing the inlets, Skookumchuk Rapids, etc.
The view from way up there is really something.



On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:38:12 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
There are NO revealing pics, at least, not on any website. (G)

Ah, you're hiding them away!


Those pictures are in the old shorts but carefully posed (G)

Besides, I really did not have much problems with those shorts -
they
were comfortable. And revealing problems were only when sitting
in
some positions.

Yeah, I can imagine... Anyway enough of that imagining... I
suppose
with
the winter weather moving in you don't get up into the mountains
much
this
time of the year. There is probably a fair amount of snow too. Do
you
take
pictures during every hike? I would really like to see more of
them
as
the
views from up in the mountains are beautiful. I probably will
never
get
to
do any hiking, at least not to the extent you do, so thoroughly
enjoy
your
pictures and imagining myself way up there on some mountain looking
down
on
everything below! What a rush that must be! On top of the world!!



On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:33:00 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

You'll have to post some more of your pictures soon again Fred,
the
last
ones were great! Just make sure that they are the ones of you
in
your
*new*
less revealing shorts! Or if you're brave you could post
pictures
of
you
in
the old more revealing ones and give us all a thrill!

Nobody seems to miss any messages posted in this group. Can't hide from us.
g

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Sheesh, I thought I would sneak the link into this older thread.

Thanks. The digital camera is fun.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:01:03 -0800, "Deb in Northern California"
wrote:

Fred,

Gorgeous pics, thanks for sharing.

Debbie

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Okay, it was a fast job.....

http://fjk6515.home.att.net/jpg_EagleCapMap.htm

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:07:31 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .


On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:00:43 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Well, on Veteran's Day, Tues, I did do a hike and there was very
little snow, at least, none making the hike slippery like the one
on
Sunday. The one I did on Tues, was the mountain that was the
basis
for that odd series "Twin Peaks." It is very close to Seattle
and
is
more the foothills - about 3,400 feet of UP hiking but the last
rain
washed away all the icy snow that gets packed on the trail.
Later
in
the year, I call it a vertical ICE RINK and sometimes use instep
crampons to prevent a bad fall. Depending on location, there is
from
a few inches to about a foot or a bit more. But more is expected
this
weekend so mountain hiking will be coming to an end until
cross-country skiing takes over. I will occasionally do
snowshoeing
when the conditions for skiing are bad but prefer the x-country
skiing
some of it very backcountry.

The ICE RINK sounds dangerous, good thing you switch to skiing for
awhile.
I've never gone skiing or ice shoeing, but it sounds like fun and a
good
workout.

It can be which is why I use special equipment. I prefer it when it
is just dirt but when cabin fever sets in, I do it when the ski
conditions are poor and I want good exercise. I am less agressive
cross-country skiing than I use to be but still really enjoy the
backcountry.

I think I would prefer the ground being just dirt as well, but like
you
say,
cabin fever could drive you nuts and getting outside does feel great,
even
if it does mean strapping on the crampons (I had to ask DH what these
were)
and going for a hike on the vertical ice rink!

I don't get more than a few hundred feet above sea level here, so no
need
for all the safety equipment if out walking.


I will see what I can upload. I made a music, accompanied slide
show
of a bunch of different hikes but it is too large to upload to my
webpage.

I have been taking the digital camera on most hikes when I think
that
I may capture different friends or slightly different lighting or
color (Fall) but sometimes want to go a bit lighter in weight and
leave it home if it is a repeat hike. Maybe I should try posting
my
Oregon backpack....

I'd love to see them and sure everyone else would too.

I will have to work on them and annotate them and then see what kind
of space I have on AT&T

Sounds good. We're hoping to get a web page together at some point
(soon
as
we find time), and once that's done I'll try to get some pictures of
our
area on there for everyone to see. I've got a few great pictures
taken
years ago from the top of the Caren Range, looking out over the strait
toward Vancouver Island, then others looking across from the opposite
side
of the same mountain range, showing the inlets, Skookumchuk Rapids,
etc.
The view from way up there is really something.



On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:38:12 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
There are NO revealing pics, at least, not on any website.
(G)

Ah, you're hiding them away!


Those pictures are in the old shorts but carefully posed (G)

Besides, I really did not have much problems with those
shorts -
they
were comfortable. And revealing problems were only when
sitting
in
some positions.

Yeah, I can imagine... Anyway enough of that imagining... I
suppose
with
the winter weather moving in you don't get up into the mountains
much
this
time of the year. There is probably a fair amount of snow too.
Do
you
take
pictures during every hike? I would really like to see more of
them
as
the
views from up in the mountains are beautiful. I probably will
never
get
to
do any hiking, at least not to the extent you do, so thoroughly
enjoy
your
pictures and imagining myself way up there on some mountain
looking
down
on
everything below! What a rush that must be! On top of the
world!!



On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:33:00 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

You'll have to post some more of your pictures soon again
Fred,
the
last
ones were great! Just make sure that they are the ones of
you
in
your
*new*
less revealing shorts! Or if you're brave you could post
pictures
of
you
in
the old more revealing ones and give us all a thrill!

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Agent TWO!!!! He asks SHOCKED! (G)

I had seen mention of it but Agent is reasonably okay the way it is.
Sometimes I get tired of all the upgrades and probably show my age and
my unwillingness to change (g)

I saw someone posting with version 2 headers but according to their website
1.93 is the current version. I guess I spoke too soon. Oops, I just
discovered that they released version 2 to their beta team. So someone in
the worldnet groups that I visit is on the beta team. That explains the
headers.

I know what you mean about the unwillingness to change. I keep trying
different mail/news readers but always come back to OE6. I did change my
browser to Mozilla and now Firebird only because IE6 refuses to work most of
the time on this laptop. Can't get pages to load.

I do read threads in the order posted generally but would not mind
being able to read them otherwise - sometimes I just want to quickly
see the new stuff.

I don't spend a lot of time in the newsgroups these days so reading the
recent threads is the only way that I can keep up.

I also would like to be able to search INSIDE threads and not just by
subject/author. And I do that by actually, going inside the data-file
using some older Dos tools, like Buerg's List program and an older
search program (again, showing my age and my tool choices!)

IIRC, the FIND option in Agent will also search the messages but I think
that they have to be downloaded first. Otherwise it only searches the author
and subject. OE is the same way. I guess they are searching the cache and
not the newsserver. I have a subscription to Teranews and will download a
block of messages if I am searching for something in the body of one of the
messages. I like agent for background searching and downloading mp3 files
when I have time to search. When I was not working last year I spent a lot
of time searching the mp3 newsgroups. Now that I am working again, my time
online is limited. I still have about 12 newsgroups and a bunch of yahoo
groups to keep up with so I don't use agent that much these days.

So what does Agent 2 have to offer besides and UPGRADE PRICE! (G) I
do have Agent's newsgroup activated but only go there when I have a
question - like how to move an email (accidently generated by hitting
the wrong "reply" button) to a newgroup - can't be done other than by
cutting-pasting but unless you can find the thread, it is out of
place)

Take a look he http://www.forteinc.com/agent/roadmap.php. One of the
enhancements will be supporting multiple Pop3 and news servers. That will
certainly attract people.

I think my email reader, TheBat, is also close or has offered
upgrades....

I did create another identify yesterday and added another webpage for
pics.

Which reminds my - I have to record it and its password for posterity.

Keeping up with passwords drives me nuts, too. Got a good tool for
that? (G)

Do a google search on "Password manager". There are a bunch out there. I
don't use them. I have an e-mail message that I use to keep track of my IDs
and passwords. I use a select number of passwords so if I forget one it does
not take me long to go through the likely candidates. Not the most secure
but it works for me.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 02:30:29 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

Yes I saw that Angelfire was back again. It was also good to hear that
the
problem was not with AT&T or Covad directly. Website hacking is become a
real problem out there.

Have you tried Agent 2.0 yet? I'm looking for a newsreader that allows me
to
filter out cross posts. The trolls are getting more and more active. I
don't
like agent because of the way it displays threads. I like having the
newest
threads at the top of the screen not the bottom. Something unnateral
about
working up the screen to read the threads. Or do you just read the oldest
first?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Since all the servers number differently, I figured I would stay with
the cis news-servers. I have enough trouble moving between the
desktop and laptop and keeping things straight between them - moving
the right data files and indexes but not things like Window size,
fonts, and placements. I use Agent and think I have it down - as long
as I remember to move stuff back when I'm done.

And in case you did not read it, Angelfire is now working again.

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:12:04 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

Mayhem? That's how I went from posting as LJ to Laura. g My cable
company
was sold and the new company does not provide news server. I used LJ
as
my
identity in some of the male oriented techy groups that I was hanging
out
in.

For text newsgroups I don't see much difference between the worldnet
"i"
news server when I am using dial up vs when I am on broadband. The
real
difference comes into play when you are dealing with the binary
newsgroups.
Download speeds are capped at roughly 2x dial up speed hence the
similar
speeds.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Actually, that is the ftp program that I registered in order to
upload
to AT&T. I did find this newsgroup on the AT&T server, too but had
already used cis and stick with it - that way my threads are not
lost
in the mayhem between servers.

CIS has a proprietary upload program and there is NO access to
upload
using faster services, like dsl. At least, the last time I inquired
that was the case - it was very slow and I was limited to how many
pics I could upload at each session.

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:08:12 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

What restrictions are your referring to? You can upload to your
AT&T
accounts while on dsl. Not sure if you know about that. You do need
a
ftp
program that supports ssl like ws_ftp Pro. You can also use the
worldnet
newsgroups to post here or did you already figure that out? (I see
you
are
using your cis account to post)

As for cascading set of links, check out the worldnet.help.pwp.*
newsgroups.
Some really talented people in those groups can help you figure it
out.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Yes, I just have not figured out a cascading set of links and
I've
loaded both the main and one or two others with a long series of
"slides" altho, I have really had to reduce the image size
(quality)
to even fit them on. And while I have a cis account, I can only
upload via modem due to their restrictions - forget it!

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:45:59 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:

Don't forget that you could have 1 main "home" page but use the
other
5
accounts to store your pictures, etc. Just point your html page
to
the
images on the other accounts. That allows you to combine the 6
accounts
for
a total of 60 mb of storage space.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Well, creating and uploading files to a home page can be a
lifetime
occupation. I have, I think, FIVE home pages on AT&T. Each
has
to
be
associated with a separate "account" for family members or
alter-egos.
But getting the stuff organized and then uploading takes time.
Sneaking one new photo is not bad on is not hard. I'm still
trying
to
organize my April trip down to the Anasazi territory.

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:15:57 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

I gotta see about a home page. This needs to be my new
project,
right?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Time for a new photo?

I can't remember - someone posted it for you somewhere?

I keep trying to take a good photo but ehh............ Oh,
you
probably have a huge home page with your new broadband
service.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:38:15 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Yo Fred, I lost another 15 or so pounds after that photo,
so
that
is
really
good news.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, before, a little bit nuts, now, a more healthy
ECCENTRIC
(G)

The photo you posted showed you are a-okay! Don't sweat
it
except
when earning activity points (G)

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:29:50 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:


"~ Wysong ~" wrote in message
...


** I now weigh 164 lbs and I can tell you that it's
NOT
THIN.
Thin
for
a
women of around 5'6" is 125 lbs or so. That's the
size
most
men
want.

Well. I am not 5'6". Which is why weight watchers
allowed
me
a
goal
of
164.
My bones show. The veins in my arms show. I am thin
enough
for
me.
My
size 10 clothes are nicely loose. Thanks for the
reality
check.
Most
men
are influenced by the media, as are most women. You
reminded
me
how
proud I
am to be eccentric.

Lesanne
(365)247/160/164

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:00:56 -0800, Fred
wrote:

Which reminds my - I have to record it and its password for posterity.

Keeping up with passwords drives me nuts, too. Got a good tool for
that? (G)

I use the free version of Roboform, which stores up to 30 passwords.
More than that, and you have to pay for the software. There's a
Mozilla/Netscape version too, if you're not an IE user. Roboform's at
www.roboform.com

Prairie Roots
232/173.8/WW goal 145
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Hey, slowpoke, use it or lose it (G)

I will not move anything today. But I may try to reorganize these
various links as Laura suggested, linking them from one master home
page. I have been shrinking the quality and size of the images to get
them to fit the space limitations. I would like to put the canada
series up but that is one large trip!!! (G)

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:26:58 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Just goes to prove you aren't a sneaky sort of guy... or we're just an extremely
attentive group of people. grin I haven't had a chance to look through your
pictures yet, but did get the site bookmarked. Now don't go moving it on me!

Joyce


On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:06:36 -0800, Fred wrote:

Sheesh, I thought I would sneak the link into this older thread.

Thanks. The digital camera is fun.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:01:03 -0800, "Deb in Northern California"
wrote:

Fred,

Gorgeous pics, thanks for sharing.

Debbie

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Okay, it was a fast job.....

http://fjk6515.home.att.net/jpg_EagleCapMap.htm

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:07:31 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .


On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:00:43 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Well, on Veteran's Day, Tues, I did do a hike and there was very
little snow, at least, none making the hike slippery like the one on
Sunday. The one I did on Tues, was the mountain that was the basis
for that odd series "Twin Peaks." It is very close to Seattle and
is
more the foothills - about 3,400 feet of UP hiking but the last rain
washed away all the icy snow that gets packed on the trail. Later
in
the year, I call it a vertical ICE RINK and sometimes use instep
crampons to prevent a bad fall. Depending on location, there is
from
a few inches to about a foot or a bit more. But more is expected
this
weekend so mountain hiking will be coming to an end until
cross-country skiing takes over. I will occasionally do snowshoeing
when the conditions for skiing are bad but prefer the x-country
skiing
some of it very backcountry.

The ICE RINK sounds dangerous, good thing you switch to skiing for
awhile.
I've never gone skiing or ice shoeing, but it sounds like fun and a
good
workout.

It can be which is why I use special equipment. I prefer it when it
is just dirt but when cabin fever sets in, I do it when the ski
conditions are poor and I want good exercise. I am less agressive
cross-country skiing than I use to be but still really enjoy the
backcountry.

I think I would prefer the ground being just dirt as well, but like you
say,
cabin fever could drive you nuts and getting outside does feel great,
even
if it does mean strapping on the crampons (I had to ask DH what these
were)
and going for a hike on the vertical ice rink!

I don't get more than a few hundred feet above sea level here, so no need
for all the safety equipment if out walking.


I will see what I can upload. I made a music, accompanied slide
show
of a bunch of different hikes but it is too large to upload to my
webpage.

I have been taking the digital camera on most hikes when I think
that
I may capture different friends or slightly different lighting or
color (Fall) but sometimes want to go a bit lighter in weight and
leave it home if it is a repeat hike. Maybe I should try posting my
Oregon backpack....

I'd love to see them and sure everyone else would too.

I will have to work on them and annotate them and then see what kind
of space I have on AT&T

Sounds good. We're hoping to get a web page together at some point (soon
as
we find time), and once that's done I'll try to get some pictures of our
area on there for everyone to see. I've got a few great pictures taken
years ago from the top of the Caren Range, looking out over the strait
toward Vancouver Island, then others looking across from the opposite
side
of the same mountain range, showing the inlets, Skookumchuk Rapids, etc.
The view from way up there is really something.



On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:38:12 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
There are NO revealing pics, at least, not on any website. (G)

Ah, you're hiding them away!


Those pictures are in the old shorts but carefully posed (G)

Besides, I really did not have much problems with those shorts -
they
were comfortable. And revealing problems were only when sitting
in
some positions.

Yeah, I can imagine... Anyway enough of that imagining... I
suppose
with
the winter weather moving in you don't get up into the mountains
much
this
time of the year. There is probably a fair amount of snow too. Do
you
take
pictures during every hike? I would really like to see more of
them
as
the
views from up in the mountains are beautiful. I probably will
never
get
to
do any hiking, at least not to the extent you do, so thoroughly
enjoy
your
pictures and imagining myself way up there on some mountain looking
down
on
everything below! What a rush that must be! On top of the world!!



On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:33:00 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

You'll have to post some more of your pictures soon again Fred,
the
last
ones were great! Just make sure that they are the ones of you
in
your
*new*
less revealing shorts! Or if you're brave you could post
pictures
of
you
in
the old more revealing ones and give us all a thrill!

I guess so.

As I wrote Joyce, I may try to link my links from some master home
page.

I also should probably restore the thumbnail frame so that folks are
not forced to view all of the images. But the elimination of the
thumbnails reduced the overall size of the "packet" which makes up the
trip. Also removing (tediously) the drop-down list reduced some html
size items, too.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:04:30 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

Nobody seems to miss any messages posted in this group. Can't hide from us.
g

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Sheesh, I thought I would sneak the link into this older thread.

Thanks. The digital camera is fun.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:01:03 -0800, "Deb in Northern California"
wrote:

Fred,

Gorgeous pics, thanks for sharing.

Debbie

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Okay, it was a fast job.....

http://fjk6515.home.att.net/jpg_EagleCapMap.htm

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:07:31 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .


On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:00:43 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Well, on Veteran's Day, Tues, I did do a hike and there was very
little snow, at least, none making the hike slippery like the one
on
Sunday. The one I did on Tues, was the mountain that was the
basis
for that odd series "Twin Peaks." It is very close to Seattle
and
is
more the foothills - about 3,400 feet of UP hiking but the last
rain
washed away all the icy snow that gets packed on the trail.
Later
in
the year, I call it a vertical ICE RINK and sometimes use instep
crampons to prevent a bad fall. Depending on location, there is
from
a few inches to about a foot or a bit more. But more is expected
this
weekend so mountain hiking will be coming to an end until
cross-country skiing takes over. I will occasionally do
snowshoeing
when the conditions for skiing are bad but prefer the x-country
skiing
some of it very backcountry.

The ICE RINK sounds dangerous, good thing you switch to skiing for
awhile.
I've never gone skiing or ice shoeing, but it sounds like fun and a
good
workout.

It can be which is why I use special equipment. I prefer it when it
is just dirt but when cabin fever sets in, I do it when the ski
conditions are poor and I want good exercise. I am less agressive
cross-country skiing than I use to be but still really enjoy the
backcountry.

I think I would prefer the ground being just dirt as well, but like
you
say,
cabin fever could drive you nuts and getting outside does feel great,
even
if it does mean strapping on the crampons (I had to ask DH what these
were)
and going for a hike on the vertical ice rink!

I don't get more than a few hundred feet above sea level here, so no
need
for all the safety equipment if out walking.


I will see what I can upload. I made a music, accompanied slide
show
of a bunch of different hikes but it is too large to upload to my
webpage.

I have been taking the digital camera on most hikes when I think
that
I may capture different friends or slightly different lighting or
color (Fall) but sometimes want to go a bit lighter in weight and
leave it home if it is a repeat hike. Maybe I should try posting
my
Oregon backpack....

I'd love to see them and sure everyone else would too.

I will have to work on them and annotate them and then see what kind
of space I have on AT&T

Sounds good. We're hoping to get a web page together at some point
(soon
as
we find time), and once that's done I'll try to get some pictures of
our
area on there for everyone to see. I've got a few great pictures
taken
years ago from the top of the Caren Range, looking out over the strait
toward Vancouver Island, then others looking across from the opposite
side
of the same mountain range, showing the inlets, Skookumchuk Rapids,
etc.
The view from way up there is really something.



On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:38:12 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
There are NO revealing pics, at least, not on any website.
(G)

Ah, you're hiding them away!


Those pictures are in the old shorts but carefully posed (G)

Besides, I really did not have much problems with those
shorts -
they
were comfortable. And revealing problems were only when
sitting
in
some positions.

Yeah, I can imagine... Anyway enough of that imagining... I
suppose
with
the winter weather moving in you don't get up into the mountains
much
this
time of the year. There is probably a fair amount of snow too.
Do
you
take
pictures during every hike? I would really like to see more of
them
as
the
views from up in the mountains are beautiful. I probably will
never
get
to
do any hiking, at least not to the extent you do, so thoroughly
enjoy
your
pictures and imagining myself way up there on some mountain
looking
down
on
everything below! What a rush that must be! On top of the
world!!



On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:33:00 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

You'll have to post some more of your pictures soon again
Fred,
the
last
ones were great! Just make sure that they are the ones of
you
in
your
*new*
less revealing shorts! Or if you're brave you could post
pictures
of
you
in
the old more revealing ones and give us all a thrill!

I have become lazy and don't so as much backpacking as I had done. I
will admit that the weightloss has made it a lot easier. My feet
still have limited mileage. And I kvetch (complain) anyway (G) on
long days.

I really like it. You get further in and away from people, altho, the
Oregon trip was a very popular place but during camping we pretty much
had nice private locations. And being out there to enjoy sunsets and
sunrises is terrific.

I understand setting priorities - the bike is more practical.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:15:10 -0600, Prairie Roots
wrote:

In my life, I've done lots of camping and hiked many miles of trails.
I've never gone backpacking, though. Those pictures make me think I
should give it a try. But I'm still saving up for a bike!

Prairie Roots

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:30:24 -0800, Fred
wrote:

Okay, it was a fast job.....

http://fjk6515.home.att.net/jpg_EagleCapMap.htm

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:07:31 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
...


On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:00:43 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Well, on Veteran's Day, Tues, I did do a hike and there was very
little snow, at least, none making the hike slippery like the one on
Sunday. The one I did on Tues, was the mountain that was the basis
for that odd series "Twin Peaks." It is very close to Seattle and is
more the foothills - about 3,400 feet of UP hiking but the last rain
washed away all the icy snow that gets packed on the trail. Later in
the year, I call it a vertical ICE RINK and sometimes use instep
crampons to prevent a bad fall. Depending on location, there is from
a few inches to about a foot or a bit more. But more is expected this
weekend so mountain hiking will be coming to an end until
cross-country skiing takes over. I will occasionally do snowshoeing
when the conditions for skiing are bad but prefer the x-country skiing
some of it very backcountry.

The ICE RINK sounds dangerous, good thing you switch to skiing for
awhile.
I've never gone skiing or ice shoeing, but it sounds like fun and a good
workout.

It can be which is why I use special equipment. I prefer it when it
is just dirt but when cabin fever sets in, I do it when the ski
conditions are poor and I want good exercise. I am less agressive
cross-country skiing than I use to be but still really enjoy the
backcountry.

I think I would prefer the ground being just dirt as well, but like you say,
cabin fever could drive you nuts and getting outside does feel great, even
if it does mean strapping on the crampons (I had to ask DH what these were)
and going for a hike on the vertical ice rink!

I don't get more than a few hundred feet above sea level here, so no need
for all the safety equipment if out walking.


I will see what I can upload. I made a music, accompanied slide show
of a bunch of different hikes but it is too large to upload to my
webpage.

I have been taking the digital camera on most hikes when I think that
I may capture different friends or slightly different lighting or
color (Fall) but sometimes want to go a bit lighter in weight and
leave it home if it is a repeat hike. Maybe I should try posting my
Oregon backpack....

I'd love to see them and sure everyone else would too.

I will have to work on them and annotate them and then see what kind
of space I have on AT&T

Sounds good. We're hoping to get a web page together at some point (soon as
we find time), and once that's done I'll try to get some pictures of our
area on there for everyone to see. I've got a few great pictures taken
years ago from the top of the Caren Range, looking out over the strait
toward Vancouver Island, then others looking across from the opposite side
of the same mountain range, showing the inlets, Skookumchuk Rapids, etc.
The view from way up there is really something.



On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:38:12 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
There are NO revealing pics, at least, not on any website. (G)

Ah, you're hiding them away!


Those pictures are in the old shorts but carefully posed (G)

Besides, I really did not have much problems with those shorts -
they
were comfortable. And revealing problems were only when sitting in
some positions.

Yeah, I can imagine... Anyway enough of that imagining... I suppose
with
the winter weather moving in you don't get up into the mountains much
this
time of the year. There is probably a fair amount of snow too. Do
you
take
pictures during every hike? I would really like to see more of them
as
the
views from up in the mountains are beautiful. I probably will never
get
to
do any hiking, at least not to the extent you do, so thoroughly enjoy
your
pictures and imagining myself way up there on some mountain looking
down
on
everything below! What a rush that must be! On top of the world!!



On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:33:00 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

You'll have to post some more of your pictures soon again Fred, the
last
ones were great! Just make sure that they are the ones of you in
your
*new*
less revealing shorts! Or if you're brave you could post pictures
of
you
in
the old more revealing ones and give us all a thrill!

My camera, so I am not in them as much or at all (G)

Thanks. It was a good trip. It was a fallback trip. We originally
were going to Montana (and grizzly bears which made it easier to
accept the change) but forest fires closed the area we wanted to go
to.

The Oregon trip also was altered by more fires down there. We were
going to go to Hells Canyon for a night or two at the end but the
storm while we were camping set more fires and closed that area and
one or two other areas just west of where we were.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:03:42 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

Great pictures and what scenery. No wonder you love hiking so much.
Absolutely breathtaking. Next time how about including more pictures of
yourself. g.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Okay, it was a fast job.....

http://fjk6515.home.att.net/jpg_EagleCapMap.htm

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:07:31 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .


On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:00:43 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Well, on Veteran's Day, Tues, I did do a hike and there was very
little snow, at least, none making the hike slippery like the one on
Sunday. The one I did on Tues, was the mountain that was the basis
for that odd series "Twin Peaks." It is very close to Seattle and
is
more the foothills - about 3,400 feet of UP hiking but the last rain
washed away all the icy snow that gets packed on the trail. Later
in
the year, I call it a vertical ICE RINK and sometimes use instep
crampons to prevent a bad fall. Depending on location, there is
from
a few inches to about a foot or a bit more. But more is expected
this
weekend so mountain hiking will be coming to an end until
cross-country skiing takes over. I will occasionally do snowshoeing
when the conditions for skiing are bad but prefer the x-country
skiing
some of it very backcountry.

The ICE RINK sounds dangerous, good thing you switch to skiing for
awhile.
I've never gone skiing or ice shoeing, but it sounds like fun and a
good
workout.

It can be which is why I use special equipment. I prefer it when it
is just dirt but when cabin fever sets in, I do it when the ski
conditions are poor and I want good exercise. I am less agressive
cross-country skiing than I use to be but still really enjoy the
backcountry.

I think I would prefer the ground being just dirt as well, but like you
say,
cabin fever could drive you nuts and getting outside does feel great,
even
if it does mean strapping on the crampons (I had to ask DH what these
were)
and going for a hike on the vertical ice rink!

I don't get more than a few hundred feet above sea level here, so no need
for all the safety equipment if out walking.


I will see what I can upload. I made a music, accompanied slide
show
of a bunch of different hikes but it is too large to upload to my
webpage.

I have been taking the digital camera on most hikes when I think
that
I may capture different friends or slightly different lighting or
color (Fall) but sometimes want to go a bit lighter in weight and
leave it home if it is a repeat hike. Maybe I should try posting my
Oregon backpack....

I'd love to see them and sure everyone else would too.

I will have to work on them and annotate them and then see what kind
of space I have on AT&T

Sounds good. We're hoping to get a web page together at some point (soon
as
we find time), and once that's done I'll try to get some pictures of our
area on there for everyone to see. I've got a few great pictures taken
years ago from the top of the Caren Range, looking out over the strait
toward Vancouver Island, then others looking across from the opposite
side
of the same mountain range, showing the inlets, Skookumchuk Rapids, etc.
The view from way up there is really something.



On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:38:12 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
There are NO revealing pics, at least, not on any website. (G)

Ah, you're hiding them away!


Those pictures are in the old shorts but carefully posed (G)

Besides, I really did not have much problems with those shorts -
they
were comfortable. And revealing problems were only when sitting
in
some positions.

Yeah, I can imagine... Anyway enough of that imagining... I
suppose
with
the winter weather moving in you don't get up into the mountains
much
this
time of the year. There is probably a fair amount of snow too. Do
you
take
pictures during every hike? I would really like to see more of
them
as
the
views from up in the mountains are beautiful. I probably will
never
get
to
do any hiking, at least not to the extent you do, so thoroughly
enjoy
your
pictures and imagining myself way up there on some mountain looking
down
on
everything below! What a rush that must be! On top of the world!!



On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:33:00 -0800, "Brenda Hammond"
wrote:

You'll have to post some more of your pictures soon again Fred,
the
last
ones were great! Just make sure that they are the ones of you
in
your
*new*
less revealing shorts! Or if you're brave you could post
pictures
of
you
in
the old more revealing ones and give us all a thrill!

Join the "unwillingness to change club!"

Some of this upgrade stuff is driven by microsoft - how to make money
continually if you have nothing new (not necessarily improved) to
sell. The same with a lot of other software places now. I'm not sure
that I need the latest stuff in Paint Shop Pro but did upgrade. Now
there are tools that are completely beyond any digital stuff I will
ever and i mean EVER use.

I do search out NEW and creative applications and particularly, like
utilities. I am willing to install and remove stuff like that.

I like that the new Agent will make using two News Servers easier.
But it can be done now but you have to manually create a separate
directory structure which is not that hard - now that I know how. I
see that they are going to Personalities - frankly, Eudora's
Personalities totally lost me - never could get it to work. Just let
me install my separate accounts for email and I'm happy.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:44:28 -0500, Joyce wrote:

Ok, this dunce (me) must be doing something wrong. I read the messages in the
order they are posted. They do post at the bottom of the newsgroup, but post in
order from early time to most current time ... so I'm guessing I am reading them
*down* and not *up* (I hit the next button and the page moves continually
downwards, to the last message downloaded). It works great for me, since it's the
exact same way I got used to reading the newsgroups when using the netscape
reader.

Unwillingness to change here too. I get comfortable, dislike some of the new
quirks that are in the upgrades ... probably technical stuff that I really have no
use for. All I need to do is read, reply and search here and there. g BUT ...
remember I'm the one who still is using the netscape mail (about the only thing in
netscape that I use now). I learned on it, became comfortable with it, am
sticking with it.

Joyce


On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:00:56 -0800, Fred wrote:

Agent TWO!!!! He asks SHOCKED! (G)

I had seen mention of it but Agent is reasonably okay the way it is.
Sometimes I get tired of all the upgrades and probably show my age and
my unwillingness to change (g)

I do read threads in the order posted generally but would not mind
being able to read them otherwise - sometimes I just want to quickly
see the new stuff.

I also would like to be able to search INSIDE threads and not just by
subject/author. And I do that by actually, going inside the data-file
using some older Dos tools, like Buerg's List program and an older
search program (again, showing my age and my tool choices!)

So what does Agent 2 have to offer besides and UPGRADE PRICE! (G) I
do have Agent's newsgroup activated but only go there when I have a
question - like how to move an email (accidently generated by hitting
the wrong "reply" button) to a newgroup - can't be done other than by
cutting-pasting but unless you can find the thread, it is out of
place)

I think my email reader, TheBat, is also close or has offered
upgrades....

I did create another identify yesterday and added another webpage for
pics.

Which reminds my - I have to record it and its password for posterity.

Keeping up with passwords drives me nuts, too. Got a good tool for
that? (G)

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 02:30:29 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

Yes I saw that Angelfire was back again. It was also good to hear that the
problem was not with AT&T or Covad directly. Website hacking is become a
real problem out there.

Have you tried Agent 2.0 yet? I'm looking for a newsreader that allows me to
filter out cross posts. The trolls are getting more and more active. I don't
like agent because of the way it displays threads. I like having the newest
threads at the top of the screen not the bottom. Something unnateral about
working up the screen to read the threads. Or do you just read the oldest
first?

"Fred" wrote in message
...
Since all the servers number differently, I figured I would stay with
the cis news-servers. I have enough trouble moving between the
desktop and laptop and keeping things straight between them - moving
the right data files and indexes but not things like Window size,
fonts, and placements. I use Agent and think I have it down - as long
as I remember to move stuff back when I'm done.

And in case you did not read it, Angelfire is now working again.

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:12:04 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

Mayhem? That's how I went from posting as LJ to Laura. g My cable
company
was sold and the new company does not provide news server. I used LJ as
my
identity in some of the male oriented techy groups that I was hanging out
in.

For text newsgroups I don't see much difference between the worldnet "i"
news server when I am using dial up vs when I am on broadband. The real
difference comes into play when you are dealing with the binary
newsgroups.
Download speeds are capped at roughly 2x dial up speed hence the similar
speeds.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Actually, that is the ftp program that I registered in order to upload
to AT&T. I did find this newsgroup on the AT&T server, too but had
already used cis and stick with it - that way my threads are not lost
in the mayhem between servers.

CIS has a proprietary upload program and there is NO access to upload
using faster services, like dsl. At least, the last time I inquired
that was the case - it was very slow and I was limited to how many
pics I could upload at each session.

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:08:12 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

What restrictions are your referring to? You can upload to your AT&T
accounts while on dsl. Not sure if you know about that. You do need a
ftp
program that supports ssl like ws_ftp Pro. You can also use the
worldnet
newsgroups to post here or did you already figure that out? (I see you
are
using your cis account to post)

As for cascading set of links, check out the worldnet.help.pwp.*
newsgroups.
Some really talented people in those groups can help you figure it
out.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Yes, I just have not figured out a cascading set of links and I've
loaded both the main and one or two others with a long series of
"slides" altho, I have really had to reduce the image size (quality)
to even fit them on. And while I have a cis account, I can only
upload via modem due to their restrictions - forget it!

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:45:59 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

Don't forget that you could have 1 main "home" page but use the
other
5
accounts to store your pictures, etc. Just point your html page to
the
images on the other accounts. That allows you to combine the 6
accounts
for
a total of 60 mb of storage space.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Well, creating and uploading files to a home page can be a
lifetime
occupation. I have, I think, FIVE home pages on AT&T. Each has
to
be
associated with a separate "account" for family members or
alter-egos.
But getting the stuff organized and then uploading takes time.
Sneaking one new photo is not bad on is not hard. I'm still
trying
to
organize my April trip down to the Anasazi territory.

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:15:57 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

I gotta see about a home page. This needs to be my new project,
right?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Time for a new photo?

I can't remember - someone posted it for you somewhere?

I keep trying to take a good photo but ehh............ Oh,
you
probably have a huge home page with your new broadband
service.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:38:15 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Yo Fred, I lost another 15 or so pounds after that photo, so
that
is
really
good news.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, before, a little bit nuts, now, a more healthy
ECCENTRIC
(G)

The photo you posted showed you are a-okay! Don't sweat it
except
when earning activity points (G)

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:29:50 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:


"~ Wysong ~" wrote in message
...


** I now weigh 164 lbs and I can tell you that it's NOT
THIN.
Thin
for
a
women of around 5'6" is 125 lbs or so. That's the size
most
men
want.

Well. I am not 5'6". Which is why weight watchers allowed
me
a
goal
of
164.
My bones show. The veins in my arms show. I am thin
enough
for
me.
My
size 10 clothes are nicely loose. Thanks for the reality
check.
Most
men
are influenced by the media, as are most women. You
reminded
me
how
proud I
am to be eccentric.

Lesanne
(365)247/160/164










started ww 2/5/02 --- 228.8/130/150ww goal/140ish personal goal
WW GOAL!!! 2/21/03 --- LIFETIME 4/4/03

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:31:32 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Agent TWO!!!! He asks SHOCKED! (G)

I had seen mention of it but Agent is reasonably okay the way it is.
Sometimes I get tired of all the upgrades and probably show my age and
my unwillingness to change (g)

I saw someone posting with version 2 headers but according to their website
1.93 is the current version. I guess I spoke too soon. Oops, I just
discovered that they released version 2 to their beta team. So someone in
the worldnet groups that I visit is on the beta team. That explains the
headers.

I visit the AT&T groups, too. DSL is the newest since the Angelfire
stuff. And the email just to see if there are problems. There Spam
filter is not doing much for my account!!! I did use their webpage
stuff for a while and may again.

I don't do too many newsgroups. GPS and this one are the main ones.
I don't know much about the binary stuff - is that all bootleg or
music or????

I know what you mean about the unwillingness to change. I keep trying
different mail/news readers but always come back to OE6. I did change my
browser to Mozilla and now Firebird only because IE6 refuses to work most of
the time on this laptop. Can't get pages to load.

I use Netscape 7.x (which follows mozilla). I really like the Tabbed
browsing - now there was a GREAT UPGRADE. But I hate the search
function - I cannot find the links I want to edit them.

I do read threads in the order posted generally but would not mind
being able to read them otherwise - sometimes I just want to quickly
see the new stuff.

I don't spend a lot of time in the newsgroups these days so reading the
recent threads is the only way that I can keep up.

I also would like to be able to search INSIDE threads and not just by
subject/author. And I do that by actually, going inside the data-file
using some older Dos tools, like Buerg's List program and an older
search program (again, showing my age and my tool choices!)

IIRC, the FIND option in Agent will also search the messages but I think
that they have to be downloaded first. Otherwise it only searches the author
and subject. OE is the same way. I guess they are searching the cache and
not the newsserver. I have a subscription to Teranews and will download a
block of messages if I am searching for something in the body of one of the
messages. I like agent for background searching and downloading mp3 files
when I have time to search. When I was not working last year I spent a lot
of time searching the mp3 newsgroups. Now that I am working again, my time
online is limited. I still have about 12 newsgroups and a bunch of yahoo
groups to keep up with so I don't use agent that much these days.

So what does Agent 2 have to offer besides and UPGRADE PRICE! (G) I
do have Agent's newsgroup activated but only go there when I have a
question - like how to move an email (accidently generated by hitting
the wrong "reply" button) to a newgroup - can't be done other than by
cutting-pasting but unless you can find the thread, it is out of
place)

Take a look he http://www.forteinc.com/agent/roadmap.php. One of the
enhancements will be supporting multiple Pop3 and news servers. That will
certainly attract people.

The multi-newsgroups - yup. But it works now, as I wrote to Joyce -
only manually. I have TheBat which does multiple pop3.

I think my email reader, TheBat, is also close or has offered
upgrades....

I did create another identify yesterday and added another webpage for
pics.

Which reminds my - I have to record it and its password for posterity.

Keeping up with passwords drives me nuts, too. Got a good tool for
that? (G)

Do a google search on "Password manager". There are a bunch out there. I
don't use them. I have an e-mail message that I use to keep track of my IDs
and passwords. I use a select number of passwords so if I forget one it does
not take me long to go through the likely candidates. Not the most secure
but it works for me.

That would work. The problem is sometimes I create them for a site on
the fly and don't remember them. I have no idea who to get into Yahoo
groups - I just get the email from the lists I'm already on!!! (G)

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 02:30:29 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

Yes I saw that Angelfire was back again. It was also good to hear that
the
problem was not with AT&T or Covad directly. Website hacking is become a
real problem out there.

Have you tried Agent 2.0 yet? I'm looking for a newsreader that allows me
to
filter out cross posts. The trolls are getting more and more active. I
don't
like agent because of the way it displays threads. I like having the
newest
threads at the top of the screen not the bottom. Something unnateral
about
working up the screen to read the threads. Or do you just read the oldest
first?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Since all the servers number differently, I figured I would stay with
the cis news-servers. I have enough trouble moving between the
desktop and laptop and keeping things straight between them - moving
the right data files and indexes but not things like Window size,
fonts, and placements. I use Agent and think I have it down - as long
as I remember to move stuff back when I'm done.

And in case you did not read it, Angelfire is now working again.

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:12:04 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

Mayhem? That's how I went from posting as LJ to Laura. g My cable
company
was sold and the new company does not provide news server. I used LJ
as
my
identity in some of the male oriented techy groups that I was hanging
out
in.

For text newsgroups I don't see much difference between the worldnet
"i"
news server when I am using dial up vs when I am on broadband. The
real
difference comes into play when you are dealing with the binary
newsgroups.
Download speeds are capped at roughly 2x dial up speed hence the
similar
speeds.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Actually, that is the ftp program that I registered in order to
upload
to AT&T. I did find this newsgroup on the AT&T server, too but had
already used cis and stick with it - that way my threads are not
lost
in the mayhem between servers.

CIS has a proprietary upload program and there is NO access to
upload
using faster services, like dsl. At least, the last time I inquired
that was the case - it was very slow and I was limited to how many
pics I could upload at each session.

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:08:12 GMT, "Laura"
wrote:

What restrictions are your referring to? You can upload to your
AT&T
accounts while on dsl. Not sure if you know about that. You do need
a
ftp
program that supports ssl like ws_ftp Pro. You can also use the
worldnet
newsgroups to post here or did you already figure that out? (I see
you
are
using your cis account to post)

As for cascading set of links, check out the worldnet.help.pwp.*
newsgroups.
Some really talented people in those groups can help you figure it
out.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Yes, I just have not figured out a cascading set of links and
I've
loaded both the main and one or two others with a long series of
"slides" altho, I have really had to reduce the image size
(quality)
to even fit them on. And while I have a cis account, I can only
upload via modem due to their restrictions - forget it!

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:45:59 GMT, "Laura"

wrote:

Don't forget that you could have 1 main "home" page but use the
other
5
accounts to store your pictures, etc. Just point your html page
to
the
images on the other accounts. That allows you to combine the 6
accounts
for
a total of 60 mb of storage space.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Well, creating and uploading files to a home page can be a
lifetime
occupation. I have, I think, FIVE home pages on AT&T. Each
has
to
be
associated with a separate "account" for family members or
alter-egos.
But getting the stuff organized and then uploading takes time.
Sneaking one new photo is not bad on is not hard. I'm still
trying
to
organize my April trip down to the Anasazi territory.

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:15:57 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

I gotta see about a home page. This needs to be my new
project,
right?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Time for a new photo?

I can't remember - someone posted it for you somewhere?

I keep trying to take a good photo but ehh............ Oh,
you
probably have a huge home page with your new broadband
service.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:38:15 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

Yo Fred, I lost another 15 or so pounds after that photo,
so
that
is
really
good news.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Oh, before, a little bit nuts, now, a more healthy
ECCENTRIC
(G)

The photo you posted showed you are a-okay! Don't sweat
it
except
when earning activity points (G)

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:29:50 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:


"~ Wysong ~" wrote in message
...


** I now weigh 164 lbs and I can tell you that it's
NOT
THIN.
Thin
for
a
women of around 5'6" is 125 lbs or so. That's the
size
most
men
want.

Well. I am not 5'6". Which is why weight watchers
allowed
me
a
goal
of
164.
My bones show. The veins in my arms show. I am thin
enough
for
me.
My
size 10 clothes are nicely loose. Thanks for the
reality
check.
Most
men
are influenced by the media, as are most women. You
reminded
me
how
proud I
am to be eccentric.

Lesanne
(365)247/160/164