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Old October 25th, 2007, 10:27 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Not so Slim Jim
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Default What's OK to eat . . .

Low Carb works very well for me but I keep on slipping back to my old
bingeing ways and eating loads of sweet things and find myself putting the
weight back on - obviously. However, I am now feeling uncomfortable in my
clothes. My working lifestyle means lots of hotel stays which means that it
is difficult to find low carb foods. I wonder whether you more experienced
can tell me the carb values of the following which have started eating for
the last 3 days.

Breakfast is two eggs fried in extra virgin olive oil together with three
thin rashers of bacon with six or seven button mushrooms. Everything I fry
is done in Extra Virgin Oil (if that makes any difference).

I generally don't want/need to eat until about 6pm in the evening when I
have been having an average sized lamb steak, 8oz Sirloin Steak (both fried
as above) with the fat cut off mid cooking, with button mushrooms fried in
butter with two crushed garlic segments. On the side I have a salad garnish
of lettuce, one diced tomato and some diced cucumber. I also gently fry a
whole onion, sometimes with half a red chillie to give it a bit of a kick.

In addition to the two meals, I drink several litres of water during the day
and take some Omega 3 and 6 capsules, and a Pottassium tablet.


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Old October 26th, 2007, 12:34 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Jim
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Default What's OK to eat . . .

Not so Slim Jim wrote:
Low Carb works very well for me but I keep on slipping back to my old
bingeing ways and eating loads of sweet things and find myself putting the
weight back on - obviously. However, I am now feeling uncomfortable in my
clothes. My working lifestyle means lots of hotel stays which means that it
is difficult to find low carb foods. I wonder whether you more experienced
can tell me the carb values of the following which have started eating for
the last 3 days.

Breakfast is two eggs fried in extra virgin olive oil together with three
thin rashers of bacon with six or seven button mushrooms. Everything I fry
is done in Extra Virgin Oil (if that makes any difference).

I generally don't want/need to eat until about 6pm in the evening when I
have been having an average sized lamb steak, 8oz Sirloin Steak (both fried
as above) with the fat cut off mid cooking, with button mushrooms fried in
butter with two crushed garlic segments. On the side I have a salad garnish
of lettuce, one diced tomato and some diced cucumber. I also gently fry a
whole onion, sometimes with half a red chillie to give it a bit of a kick.

In addition to the two meals, I drink several litres of water during the day
and take some Omega 3 and 6 capsules, and a Pottassium tablet.



Is it hunger that drives you to those delicious sweet things like sugar
iced cinnamon rolls and cream filled crunchy pastries?

Is is the sugar high?

I would think that your above menu is quite low carb. Some onions are
"sweet" but I don't know the carb value. Otherwise, the above looks good
to me. Maybe you could keep the fat on the steak. You might need the
calories to avoid starvation feelings.

The usual statement of eating out is to eat the meat, salad and
non-starchy vegetables. Sauces are a problem. Deserts are hell.

Do you socialize in the traveling dining out? That can make things a
little tougher because of the fear of "eating funny things". So many
travel companions simply don't understand low carb eating.

I find myself sneaking in some of those forbidden foods, and I haven't
traveled in months. I just get weak or something.
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Old October 26th, 2007, 08:04 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Not so Slim Jim
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Default What's OK to eat . . .

What I should have added was that I want to do the induction for at least
two weeks so is the carb value of the meals I mentioned suitable or is there
anything that I should amend.

Thanks


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Old October 26th, 2007, 08:17 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Default What's OK to eat . . .


"Not so Slim Jim" wrote in message
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What I should have added was that I want to do the induction for at least
two weeks so is the carb value of the meals I mentioned suitable or is
there anything that I should amend.

Thanks


According to Dr. Atkins:

http://www.atkins.com/articles/atkin...eptable-foods/



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Old October 26th, 2007, 12:02 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Aaron Baugher
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Default What's OK to eat . . .

"Not so Slim Jim" writes:

Low Carb works very well for me but I keep on slipping back to my old
bingeing ways and eating loads of sweet things and find myself putting
the weight back on - obviously. However, I am now feeling
uncomfortable in my clothes. My working lifestyle means lots of hotel
stays which means that it is difficult to find low carb foods. I
wonder whether you more experienced can tell me the carb values of the
following which have started eating for the last 3 days.

Breakfast is two eggs fried in extra virgin olive oil together with
three thin rashers of bacon with six or seven button
mushrooms. Everything I fry is done in Extra Virgin Oil (if that makes
any difference).

I generally don't want/need to eat until about 6pm in the evening when
I have been having an average sized lamb steak, 8oz Sirloin Steak
(both fried as above) with the fat cut off mid cooking, with button
mushrooms fried in butter with two crushed garlic segments. On the
side I have a salad garnish of lettuce, one diced tomato and some
diced cucumber. I also gently fry a whole onion, sometimes with half a
red chillie to give it a bit of a kick.


Mmmmm, lamb. That menu sounds fine for most people. If you still have
carb cravings after a couple weeks of that, you're probably either A)
not eating enough, or B) very sensitive to carbs, in which case you may
need to eliminate the onion and/or tomato. Those two are both somewhat
borderline as carbs go, and I don't think they're on the Atkins
Induction list for that reason.

Skipping lunch might not be the best idea either. Even if you're not
hungry, having a little snack -- or at least having one available -- can
help prevent cravings later in the day. If you're a good-sized guy,
that breakfast you describe isn't really all that much, especially to
last until supper. I usually have 4 eggs (in lard) and 4 slices of
bacon, and that barely gets me up to 1/3 of my calories for the day.
It's common for low-carb to suppress your appetite, which is great, but
going overboard with the not-eating can cause cravings and metabolic
slowdown, so be careful with that.

Checking your blood sugar is another option. When a craving hits, check
your blood glucose level and see if it's outside the normal range
(70-100). If it's high (the usual cause of cravings), something in your
last meal could be a problem. That'll help you determine whether your
carb binges are coming from a specific trigger in your diet or just you
not being committed enough to success.

And get a book or two. I've gotten all my low-carb books for $1 or less
from thrift stores. If you're doing Atkins (as I think you said in a
later post), you shouldn't be asking this question because the Induction
list already told you what foods you can eat. If you're doing Protein
Power, it gives you a chart where you can lookup all these foods for
yourself and make sure you're under 10g per meal. Every book will give
you some sort of guidelines to follow. You don't really want to have to
come ask us about every new meal you encounter, do you?



--
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  #6  
Old October 26th, 2007, 02:06 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Jim
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Default What's OK to eat . . .

Not so Slim Jim wrote:
What I should have added was that I want to do the induction for at least
two weeks so is the carb value of the meals I mentioned suitable or is there
anything that I should amend.

Thanks



Small onion by itself is listed as 10 grams of carbohydrates. 2 1/2
inch tomato is 9 carbs.

I think you really need to buy a book or a booklet which includes the
tables of at least carb contents.

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Old October 26th, 2007, 03:52 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Not so Slim Jim
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Default What's OK to eat . . .


"Aaron Baugher" wrote in message
...
"Not so Slim Jim" writes:

Low Carb works very well for me but I keep on slipping back to my old
bingeing ways and eating loads of sweet things and find myself putting
the weight back on - obviously. However, I am now feeling
uncomfortable in my clothes. My working lifestyle means lots of hotel
stays which means that it is difficult to find low carb foods. I
wonder whether you more experienced can tell me the carb values of the
following which have started eating for the last 3 days.

Breakfast is two eggs fried in extra virgin olive oil together with
three thin rashers of bacon with six or seven button
mushrooms. Everything I fry is done in Extra Virgin Oil (if that makes
any difference).

I generally don't want/need to eat until about 6pm in the evening when
I have been having an average sized lamb steak, 8oz Sirloin Steak
(both fried as above) with the fat cut off mid cooking, with button
mushrooms fried in butter with two crushed garlic segments. On the
side I have a salad garnish of lettuce, one diced tomato and some
diced cucumber. I also gently fry a whole onion, sometimes with half a
red chillie to give it a bit of a kick.


Mmmmm, lamb. That menu sounds fine for most people. If you still have
carb cravings after a couple weeks of that, you're probably either A)
not eating enough, or B) very sensitive to carbs, in which case you may
need to eliminate the onion and/or tomato. Those two are both somewhat
borderline as carbs go, and I don't think they're on the Atkins
Induction list for that reason.

Skipping lunch might not be the best idea either. Even if you're not
hungry, having a little snack -- or at least having one available -- can
help prevent cravings later in the day. If you're a good-sized guy,
that breakfast you describe isn't really all that much, especially to
last until supper. I usually have 4 eggs (in lard) and 4 slices of
bacon, and that barely gets me up to 1/3 of my calories for the day.
It's common for low-carb to suppress your appetite, which is great, but
going overboard with the not-eating can cause cravings and metabolic
slowdown, so be careful with that.

Checking your blood sugar is another option. When a craving hits, check
your blood glucose level and see if it's outside the normal range
(70-100). If it's high (the usual cause of cravings), something in your
last meal could be a problem. That'll help you determine whether your
carb binges are coming from a specific trigger in your diet or just you
not being committed enough to success.

And get a book or two. I've gotten all my low-carb books for $1 or less
from thrift stores. If you're doing Atkins (as I think you said in a
later post), you shouldn't be asking this question because the Induction
list already told you what foods you can eat. If you're doing Protein
Power, it gives you a chart where you can lookup all these foods for
yourself and make sure you're under 10g per meal. Every book will give
you some sort of guidelines to follow. You don't really want to have to
come ask us about every new meal you encounter, do you?


Of course not, I have only asked this one question. I am not going to plague
this group for them to rubber-stamp every meal I eat. The problem I get with
the books, is that several years ago, I read one book which said that the
carb value of something eaten raw was X carbs but that after cooking it was
significantly more. Furthermore, I didn't mention Atkins, it was the very
helpful post by em which included the acceptable foods.

Also the post by Jim which states that an onion could be as much as 10 carbs
and that one tomato is 9 carbs is astounding. I'd never have thought that.


Thank you for your unput one and all sorry if I have burdened you..


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Old October 26th, 2007, 04:26 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Default What's OK to eat . . .


"Not so Slim Jim" wrote in message
...

"Aaron Baugher" wrote in message
...
"Not so Slim Jim" writes:

Low Carb works very well for me but I keep on slipping back to my old
bingeing ways and eating loads of sweet things and find myself putting
the weight back on - obviously. However, I am now feeling
uncomfortable in my clothes. My working lifestyle means lots of hotel
stays which means that it is difficult to find low carb foods. I
wonder whether you more experienced can tell me the carb values of the
following which have started eating for the last 3 days.

Breakfast is two eggs fried in extra virgin olive oil together with
three thin rashers of bacon with six or seven button
mushrooms. Everything I fry is done in Extra Virgin Oil (if that makes
any difference).

I generally don't want/need to eat until about 6pm in the evening when
I have been having an average sized lamb steak, 8oz Sirloin Steak
(both fried as above) with the fat cut off mid cooking, with button
mushrooms fried in butter with two crushed garlic segments. On the
side I have a salad garnish of lettuce, one diced tomato and some
diced cucumber. I also gently fry a whole onion, sometimes with half a
red chillie to give it a bit of a kick.


Mmmmm, lamb. That menu sounds fine for most people. If you still have
carb cravings after a couple weeks of that, you're probably either A)
not eating enough, or B) very sensitive to carbs, in which case you may
need to eliminate the onion and/or tomato. Those two are both somewhat
borderline as carbs go, and I don't think they're on the Atkins
Induction list for that reason.

Skipping lunch might not be the best idea either. Even if you're not
hungry, having a little snack -- or at least having one available -- can
help prevent cravings later in the day. If you're a good-sized guy,
that breakfast you describe isn't really all that much, especially to
last until supper. I usually have 4 eggs (in lard) and 4 slices of
bacon, and that barely gets me up to 1/3 of my calories for the day.
It's common for low-carb to suppress your appetite, which is great, but
going overboard with the not-eating can cause cravings and metabolic
slowdown, so be careful with that.

Checking your blood sugar is another option. When a craving hits, check
your blood glucose level and see if it's outside the normal range
(70-100). If it's high (the usual cause of cravings), something in your
last meal could be a problem. That'll help you determine whether your
carb binges are coming from a specific trigger in your diet or just you
not being committed enough to success.

And get a book or two. I've gotten all my low-carb books for $1 or less
from thrift stores. If you're doing Atkins (as I think you said in a
later post), you shouldn't be asking this question because the Induction
list already told you what foods you can eat. If you're doing Protein
Power, it gives you a chart where you can lookup all these foods for
yourself and make sure you're under 10g per meal. Every book will give
you some sort of guidelines to follow. You don't really want to have to
come ask us about every new meal you encounter, do you?


Of course not, I have only asked this one question. I am not going to
plague this group for them to rubber-stamp every meal I eat. The problem I
get with the books, is that several years ago, I read one book which said
that the carb value of something eaten raw was X carbs but that after
cooking it was significantly more. Furthermore, I didn't mention Atkins,
it was the very helpful post by em which included the acceptable foods.

Also the post by Jim which states that an onion could be as much as 10
carbs and that one tomato is 9 carbs is astounding. I'd never have thought
that.


Thank you for your unput one and all sorry if I have burdened you..



Its no burden. Hang out. Learn/contribute. This is a good group.

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Old October 26th, 2007, 04:55 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Ophelia[_2_]
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Default What's OK to eat . . .

Jim wrote:
Not so Slim Jim wrote:
What I should have added was that I want to do the induction for at
least two weeks so is the carb value of the meals I mentioned
suitable or is there anything that I should amend.

Thanks



Small onion by itself is listed as 10 grams of carbohydrates. 2 1/2
inch tomato is 9 carbs.

I think you really need to buy a book or a booklet which includes the
tables of at least carb contents.


Would Fitday be an option for him?


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Old October 26th, 2007, 10:51 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Aaron Baugher
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Default What's OK to eat . . .

"Not so Slim Jim" writes:

"Aaron Baugher" wrote in message
And get a book or two. I've gotten all my low-carb books for $1 or
less from thrift stores. If you're doing Atkins (as I think you said
in a later post), you shouldn't be asking this question because the
Induction list already told you what foods you can eat. If you're
doing Protein Power, it gives you a chart where you can lookup all
these foods for yourself and make sure you're under 10g per meal.
Every book will give you some sort of guidelines to follow. You
don't really want to have to come ask us about every new meal you
encounter, do you?


Of course not, I have only asked this one question. I am not going to
plague this group for them to rubber-stamp every meal I eat. The
problem I get with the books, is that several years ago, I read one
book which said that the carb value of something eaten raw was X carbs
but that after cooking it was significantly more. Furthermore, I
didn't mention Atkins, it was the very helpful post by em which
included the acceptable foods.


I'd love to know which book that was, because, as far as I know, cooking
never affects the carb count of foods in any significant way. If it
did, we'd all be eating our foods raw (or cooked, depending on which way
cooking changed it). At most, cooking might make a food more or less
digestible, slowing or speeding the conversion to glucose, but it's all
still going to count the same.

Also the post by Jim which states that an onion could be as much as 10
carbs and that one tomato is 9 carbs is astounding. I'd never have
thought that.


Yeah, it's surprising sometimes what's high and what isn't. Fruits are
the most shocking: the sweetest ones like berries are lowest in carbs
while sour fruits like oranges are packed with them. If you're adding
onion to something for flavor, it probably won't be enough to cause a
problem, but if you're eating roasted onions, it certainly could.
Shallots are often suggested as a lower-carb replacement. Tomatoes are
borderline; I stay away from them most of the time.

Thank you for your unput one and all sorry if I have burdened you..


Nah, no burden at all. We get a lot of new people who heard about
low-carbing from a friend or something, and usually have a very skewed
idea of what it means, so the best first piece of advice when someone
clearly doesn't have a LC book is to get one. (Some people will say
"the" book, meaning Atkins, but I think "Protein Power" is excellent.)
But any of the popular ones should have charts of foods, in most cases
with "net" carbs after fiber has been subtracted. There are also web
sites like fitday.com that are handy for looking up the nutritional
values of foods.



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Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz
 




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