Smooth and gradual electric problem due to inability to neutralize positive charge caused by absence of chlorine

On Feb 9, 6:33 am, "D. C. Sessions" wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.l...c8198bf8f935c?
hl=en& :

Remove the chloride (presumably
without taking the electrons with them) and what's left is
elemental sodium, potassium, etc.

What if the chloride and their electrons are removed? This would keep
the Na and K positively-charged, right?

If this is done in a smooth manner, I doubt there will be any
explosion [from sudden electrical changes]. Also, since the Na and K
remain positively-charged, there won't possess the dangers associated
with elemental Na and K. Do I guess right? If so, what symptoms would
occur in my too-hypothetical-to-be-true situation? I am so interested.

Dear Radium:

"Radium" wrote in message
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On Feb 9, 6:33 am, "D. C. Sessions"
wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.l...c8198bf8f935c?
hl=en& :

Remove the chloride (presumably
without taking the electrons with them) and what's
left is elemental sodium, potassium, etc.

What if the chloride and their electrons are removed?

Then you would end up with a static charge on the body, which the
environment would neutralize.

This would keep the Na and K positively-charged, right?

Not for very long, and then they would pair with some other
available molecule and become ionic again. Likely 2Na + 2H2O -
2Na+ + 2OH- + H2
.... which would produce the symptoms described no less than four
times in this thread.

If this is done in a smooth manner, I doubt there
will be any explosion [from sudden electrical
changes]. Also, since the Na and K remain
positively-charged,

They don't, and yet they will form other relationships where
their valence electron is lost.

there won't possess the dangers associated
with elemental Na and K. Do I guess right?

No. What you propose can only be accomplished by attempting to
create a multi-billion volt potential between a body and the
world at large. It will equalize long before this, probably
quietly, and alkalosis will set in before you get too far into
it, followed by death.

If so, what symptoms would
occur in my too-hypothetical-to-be-true situation?
I am so interested.

Alkalosis.

David A. Smith

On Feb 10, 8:26 am, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)"
wrote:
Dear Radium:

"Radium" wrote in message

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On Feb 9, 6:33 am, "D. C. Sessions"
wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.l...c8198bf8f935c?
hl=en& :

Remove the chloride (presumably
without taking the electrons with them) and what's
left is elemental sodium, potassium, etc.

What if the chloride and their electrons are removed?

Then you would end up with a static charge on the body, which the
environment would neutralize.

What if some mysterious power prevents the neutralization?

This would keep the Na and K positively-charged, right?

Not for very long, and then they would pair with some other
available molecule and become ionic again. Likely 2Na + 2H2O -
2Na+ + 2OH- + H2
... which would produce the symptoms described no less than four
times in this thread.

What if that mysterious power prevented those chemical reactions from
taking place?

If this is done in a smooth manner, I doubt there
will be any explosion [from sudden electrical
changes]. Also, since the Na and K remain
positively-charged,

They don't, and yet they will form other relationships where
their valence electron is lost.

In my too-hypothetical-to-be-true situation, they do remain positive-
charged. So what symptoms?

there won't possess the dangers associated
with elemental Na and K. Do I guess right?

No. What you propose can only be accomplished by attempting to
create a multi-billion volt potential between a body and the
world at large. It will equalize long before this, probably
quietly, and alkalosis will set in before you get too far into
it, followed by death.

If equalization is magically-prevented, then what would happen?

If so, what symptoms would
occur in my too-hypothetical-to-be-true situation?
I am so interested.

Alkalosis.

What if positive charges are mysteriously prevented from any
neutralization and the chemical reactions leading to alkalosis were
prevented?

Note: I am aware that the situation I describe is *so* theoretical
that it is un-realistic. However, I am still interested in it. I
apologize profusely if anyone is annoyed by this.

Dear Radium:

"Radium" wrote in message
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On Feb 10, 8:26 am, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)"

wrote:
Dear Radium:

"Radium" wrote in message

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On Feb 9, 6:33 am, "D. C. Sessions"
wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.l...c8198bf8f935c?
hl=en& :

Remove the chloride (presumably
without taking the electrons with them) and what's
left is elemental sodium, potassium, etc.

What if the chloride and their electrons are removed?

Then you would end up with a static charge on the
body, which the environment would neutralize.

What if some mysterious power prevents the
neutralization?

You have no choices. The unbalanced charge (charge, not ion)
will be distributed more-or-less uniformly to the outside of the
body.

This would keep the Na and K positively-
charged, right?

Not for very long, and then they would pair with
some other available molecule and become
ionic again. Likely 2Na + 2H2O -
2Na+ + 2OH- + H2
... which would produce the symptoms described
no less than four times in this thread.

What if that mysterious power prevented those
chemical reactions from taking place?

No mysterious forces available. If you want to substitute
another anion to keep from forming OH-, fine. Bromine, fluorine,
iodine... all possible candidates.

If this is done in a smooth manner, I doubt there
will be any explosion [from sudden electrical
changes]. Also, since the Na and K remain
positively-charged,

They don't, and yet they will form other relationships
where their valence electron is lost.

In my too-hypothetical-to-be-true situation, they do
remain positive-charged. So what symptoms?

Since you posit a situation that is entirely unreal...
you will grow wings, never age, lay golden eggs, and most likely
meet Elvis.

there won't possess the dangers associated
with elemental Na and K. Do I guess right?

No. What you propose can only be accomplished
by attempting to create a multi-billion volt potential
between a body and the world at large. It will
equalize long before this, probably quietly, and
alkalosis will set in before you get too far into
it, followed by death.

If equalization is magically-prevented, then what
would happen?

In *this* world, alkalosis.

If so, what symptoms would
occur in my too-hypothetical-to-be-true situation?
I am so interested.

Alkalosis.

What if positive charges are mysteriously prevented
from any neutralization and the chemical reactions
leading to alkalosis were prevented?

Note: I am aware that the situation I describe is
*so* theoretical that it is un-realistic.

Then it is no sense "theoretical". Because if it were
theoretical, predictions could be made.

However, I am still interested in it. I apologize
profusely if anyone is annoyed by this.

The fact that you insist that magic is the only way to answer
your question should be a clue that you may have the wrong
newsgroup.

David A. Smith

Reposted to include misc.health.alternative.

"D.C. Sessions", would you mind adding your input?

On Feb 10, 8:26 am, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)"
wrote:
Dear Radium:

"Radium" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Feb 9, 6:33 am, "D. C. Sessions"
wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.l...c8198bf8f935c?
hl=en& :

Remove the chloride (presumably
without taking the electrons with them) and what's
left is elemental sodium, potassium, etc.

What if the chloride and their electrons are removed?

Then you would end up with a static charge on the body, which the
environment would neutralize.

What if some mysterious power prevents the neutralization?

This would keep the Na and K positively-charged, right?

Not for very long, and then they would pair with some other
available molecule and become ionic again. Likely 2Na + 2H2O -
2Na+ + 2OH- + H2
... which would produce the symptoms described no less than four
times in this thread.

What if that mysterious power prevented those chemical reactions from
taking place?

If this is done in a smooth manner, I doubt there
will be any explosion [from sudden electrical
changes]. Also, since the Na and K remain
positively-charged,

They don't, and yet they will form other relationships where
their valence electron is lost.

In my too-hypothetical-to-be-true situation, they do remain positive-
charged. So what symptoms?

there won't possess the dangers associated
with elemental Na and K. Do I guess right?

No. What you propose can only be accomplished by attempting to
create a multi-billion volt potential between a body and the
world at large. It will equalize long before this, probably
quietly, and alkalosis will set in before you get too far into
it, followed by death.

If equalization is magically-prevented, then what would happen?

If so, what symptoms would
occur in my too-hypothetical-to-be-true situation?
I am so interested.

Alkalosis.

What if positive charges are mysteriously prevented from any
neutralization and the chemical reactions leading to alkalosis were
prevented?

Note: I am aware that the situation I describe is *so* theoretical
that it is un-realistic. However, I am still interested in it. I
apologize profusely if anyone is annoyed by this.

"Radium" writes:

What if...

What if...

If equalization is magically-prevented, then what would happen?

What if positive charges are mysteriously

These "what if" are so far fetched that they're unanswerable. Any "magic"
that would prevent coulomb repulsion from causing your body to fly apart
would prevent normal chemistry from taking place.

It's kind of like this conversation:

"Elephants can't fly".

"If by some magic elephants could fly, would they fly south for the winter?"

"Would elephants fly east in the spring and west in the autumn?"

"If elephants could fly, would they fly individually or in flocks? If
they flew in flocks, would they fly in V formations like geese?"

In message . com, Radium wrote:

Reposted to include misc.health.alternative.

"D.C. Sessions", would you mind adding your input?

On Feb 10, 8:26 am, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)"
wrote:
Dear Radium:

"Radium" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Feb 9, 6:33 am, "D. C. Sessions"
wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.l...c8198bf8f935c?
hl=en& :

Remove the chloride (presumably
without taking the electrons with them) and what's
left is elemental sodium, potassium, etc.

What if the chloride and their electrons are removed?

Then you would end up with a static charge on the body, which the
environment would neutralize.

What if some mysterious power prevents the neutralization?

Hey, why not just invoke fairies and be done with it?

You started off asking about science, got science answers,
and now you're postulating magic. Have fun.

This would keep the Na and K positively-charged, right?

Not for very long, and then they would pair with some other
available molecule and become ionic again. Likely 2Na + 2H2O -
2Na+ + 2OH- + H2
... which would produce the symptoms described no less than four
times in this thread.

What if that mysterious power prevented those chemical reactions from
taking place?

For that matter, dematerialize and head for the Mother Ship.

If this is done in a smooth manner, I doubt there
will be any explosion [from sudden electrical
changes]. Also, since the Na and K remain
positively-charged,

They don't, and yet they will form other relationships where
their valence electron is lost.

In my too-hypothetical-to-be-true situation, they do remain positive-
charged. So what symptoms?

You forgot the antimatter reaction.

Earth-shattering KABOOM!

there won't possess the dangers associated
with elemental Na and K. Do I guess right?

No. What you propose can only be accomplished by attempting to
create a multi-billion volt potential between a body and the
world at large. It will equalize long before this, probably
quietly, and alkalosis will set in before you get too far into
it, followed by death.

If equalization is magically-prevented, then what would happen?

Maxwell's Demon pops up and eats you.

If so, what symptoms would
occur in my too-hypothetical-to-be-true situation?
I am so interested.

Alkalosis.

What if positive charges are mysteriously prevented from any
neutralization and the chemical reactions leading to alkalosis were
prevented?

The Strange Quarks come out from under the bed, mate with
the Charm Quarks from the closet, and after that it's too
horrible to contemplate.

Note: I am aware that the situation I describe is *so* theoretical
that it is un-realistic. However, I am still interested in it. I
apologize profusely if anyone is annoyed by this.

If you postulate an absurdity, you can deduce anything.

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In message . com, Radium wrote:

On Feb 9, 6:33 am, "D. C. Sessions" wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.l...c8198bf8f935c?
hl=en& :

Remove the chloride (presumably
without taking the electrons with them) and what's left is
elemental sodium, potassium, etc.

What if the chloride and their electrons are removed? This would keep
the Na and K positively-charged, right?

Yup -- and the net positive charge would produce the previously
calculated Earth-shattering *KABOOM!*

If this is done in a smooth manner, I doubt there will be any
explosion [from sudden electrical changes]. Also, since the Na and K
remain positively-charged, there won't possess the dangers associated
with elemental Na and K. Do I guess right? If so, what symptoms would
occur in my too-hypothetical-to-be-true situation? I am so interested.

The explosion comes from the fact that the amount of energy
required represents the yield of all the nuclear bombs ever
produced, several times over.

Eludium Q-36 stuff.

--
| Bogus as it might seem, people, this really is a deliverable |
| e-mail address. Of course, there isn't REALLY a lumber cartel. |
| There isn't really a Santa Claus, but try www.santaclaus.com. |
+--------------- D. C. Sessions --------------+

On 9 Feb 2007 21:23:47 -0800, "Radium" wrote:

On Feb 9, 6:33 am, "D. C. Sessions" wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.l...c8198bf8f935c?
hl=en& :

Remove the chloride (presumably
without taking the electrons with them) and what's left is
elemental sodium, potassium, etc.

What if the chloride and their electrons are removed? This would keep
the Na and K positively-charged, right?

If this is done in a smooth manner, I doubt there will be any
explosion [from sudden electrical changes]. Also, since the Na and K
remain positively-charged, there won't possess the dangers associated
with elemental Na and K. Do I guess right? If so, what symptoms would
occur in my too-hypothetical-to-be-true situation? I am so interested.

If you can explain how you would achieve this, you would most likely
have a clue to what would happen.

If you postulate a magic wand to remove the Cl- and nothing else, then
the answer is, you use the magic wand to have happen whatever you
choose.

If you could split the moon in half, and move one half 20 million
miles towards the Sun and the other half in geosynchronous orbit
opposite the Sun, what would be the effect on the tides?
You can make that sort of scenario up as you go. It is way too far
fetched and impossible to even contemplate.

BTW, don't shake hands with anyone while you are draining your body of
all those electrons :=)

jack