US vs. French on being full

For a long time, I have felt that the repeated advice in Atkins later
books to "Eat Till Satisfied, Not Stuffed" is a non-ignorable part of
the Atkins plan. He did write this about 9 times in his later books.

This brief article allegedly compares the French and American clues and
methods used to stop eating.

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French paradox redux? US vs. French on being full

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-fpr021508.php

It's the French paradox redux: Why don't the French get as fat as
Americans, considering all the baguettes, wine, cheese, pate and
pastries they eat?

Because they use internal cues -- such as no longer feeling hungry -- to
stop eating, reports a new Cornell study. Americans, on the other hand,
tend to use external cues -- such as whether their plate is clean, they
have run out of their beverage or the TV show they're watching is over.

"Furthermore, we have found that the heavier a person is -- French or
American -- the more they rely on external cues to tell them to stop
eating and the less they rely on whether they felt full," said senior
author Brian Wansink, the John S. Dyson Professor of Marketing and
director of the Cornell Food and Brand Lab in the Department of Applied
Economics and Management, now on leave to serve as executive director of
the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Center for Nutrition Policy and
Promotion until January 2009.

The new study, an analysis of questionnaires from 133 Parisians and 145
Chicagoans about how they decide when to stop eating, is being published
in the journal Obesity and is being presented this later month at an the
Winter Marketing Educators conference.

"Over-relying on external cues to stop eating a meal may prove useful in
offering a partial explanation of why body mass index [a calculation
based on the relationship of weight to height] varies across people and
potentially across cultures," said co-author Collin Payne, a Cornell
postdoctoral researcher. He stressed that further studies should
following up with smoking behavior and socio-economic differences as
well. "Relying on internal cues for meal cessation, rather than on
external cues, may improve eating patterns in the long term.

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Wansink, author of "Mindless Eating: Why We Eat More Than We Think,"
also conducted the study with Pierre Chandon, a marketing professor at
INSEAD, an international business school in France.

Source: Cornell University

Not to mention that what they eat is more filling than the low fat crap
we've been told to eat.

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:03:04 -0500, Jim wrote:

For a long time, I have felt that the repeated advice in Atkins later
books to "Eat Till Satisfied, Not Stuffed" is a non-ignorable part of
the Atkins plan. He did write this about 9 times in his later books.

This brief article allegedly compares the French and American clues and
methods used to stop eating.

================================================== ========================


French paradox redux? US vs. French on being full

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-fpr021508.php

It's the French paradox redux: Why don't the French get as fat as
Americans, considering all the baguettes, wine, cheese, pate and
pastries they eat?

Because they use internal cues -- such as no longer feeling hungry -- to
stop eating, reports a new Cornell study. Americans, on the other hand,
tend to use external cues -- such as whether their plate is clean, they
have run out of their beverage or the TV show they're watching is over..

"Furthermore, we have found that the heavier a person is -- French or
American -- the more they rely on external cues to tell them to stop
eating and the less they rely on whether they felt full," said senior
author Brian Wansink, the John S. Dyson Professor of Marketing and
director of the Cornell Food and Brand Lab in the Department of Applied
Economics and Management, now on leave to serve as executive director of
the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Center for Nutrition Policy and
Promotion until January 2009.

The new study, an analysis of questionnaires from 133 Parisians and 145
Chicagoans about how they decide when to stop eating, is being published
in the journal Obesity and is being presented this later month at an the
Winter Marketing Educators conference.

"Over-relying on external cues to stop eating a meal may prove useful in
offering a partial explanation of why body mass index [a calculation
based on the relationship of weight to height] varies across people and
potentially across cultures," said co-author Collin Payne, a Cornell
postdoctoral researcher. He stressed that further studies should
following up with smoking behavior and socio-economic differences as
well. "Relying on internal cues for meal cessation, rather than on
external cues, may improve eating patterns in the long term.

###

Wansink, author of "Mindless Eating: Why We Eat More Than We Think,"
also conducted the study with Pierre Chandon, a marketing professor at
INSEAD, an international business school in France.

Source: Cornell University



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On Feb 16, 7:03 am, Jim wrote:
Americans, on the other hand,
tend to use external cues -- such as whether their plate is clean, they
have run out of their beverage or the TV show they're watching is over.

The last bit of this made me a little sad.

I would bet that the French eat very few meals in front of the TV at
all.

Hollywood wrote:
On Feb 16, 7:03 am, Jim wrote:
Americans, on the other hand,
tend to use external cues -- such as whether their plate is clean, they
have run out of their beverage or the TV show they're watching is over.

The last bit of this made me a little sad.

I would bet that the French eat very few meals in front of the TV at
all.


I've read that the "industrialized food" or "convenience food" is
catching on worldwide, and this includes France.

There are an awful lot of people who would prefer to simply heat than cook.

Many dishes at US Chain restaurants are said to be "preassembled" and or
precooked. In other words, thanks to the industrial food interests, you
can enjoy your microwave dinner in a fancy restaurant.

Jim wrote:
Hollywood wrote:
On Feb 16, 7:03 am, Jim wrote:
Americans, on the other hand,
tend to use external cues -- such as whether their plate is clean,
they have run out of their beverage or the TV show they're watching
is over.

The last bit of this made me a little sad.

I would bet that the French eat very few meals in front of the TV at
all.


I've read that the "industrialized food" or "convenience food" is
catching on worldwide, and this includes France.

There are an awful lot of people who would prefer to simply heat than
cook.
Many dishes at US Chain restaurants are said to be "preassembled" and
or precooked. In other words, thanks to the industrial food
interests, you can enjoy your microwave dinner in a fancy restaurant.

I hope not. There was a programme on radio last week about school lunches.
In UK most of the food served has been rubbish until Jamie Oliver began to
complain and try to get it changed. One interesting thing was the sort of
food that is served in France. The children have a four course meal and 2
hours to enjoy it. My own Grandson in Germany has lunch at his school and
the food is wonderful. All fresh and beautifully cooked. Uk has a long way
to go.

Ophelia a écrit :
Jim wrote:
One interesting thing was the sort of
food that is served in France. The children have a four course meal and 2
hours to enjoy it.

I used to serve this food a few years ago (school meals in France), to
children from 4 to 10.
It may have changed a lot since then, but children had actually 45
minutes to have their meal (wich is not bad) since we had to make 2
services during lunch time.
But the quality of the meals were really high, that *is* true.

As for "eating while watching TV" thing, I can say that when TV is
switched on during a meal, it's often part of the conversation rather
than the exclusive center of attention.

Huey

On Feb 17, 7:37*am, Hueyduck wrote:
Ophelia a écrit :

Jim wrote:
*One interesting thing was the sort of
food that is served in France. *The children have a four course meal and 2
hours to enjoy it.

I used to serve this food a few years ago (school meals in France), to
children from 4 to 10.
It may have changed a lot since then, but children had actually 45
minutes to have their meal (wich is not bad) since *we had to make 2
services during lunch time.
But the quality of the meals were really high, that *is* true.

As for "eating while watching TV" thing, I can say that *when TV is
switched on during a meal, it's often part of the conversation rather
than *the exclusive center of attention.

Huey

I don't know how long a typical meal takes in France vs the US. But
if eating a home is anything like a meal at a French restaurant, it's
substantially longer than one in the US. At French restaurants, a
meal can easily take 2 1/2 hours. The indivuidual courses though are
small. Consequently, you have time to react to the food and feel
satiated over time, as opposed to eating a big whopping typical meal
in the US and chowing it down in half the time. Or even 15 mins, if
it's fast food.