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Old June 14th, 2004, 02:01 AM
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to the point where I'll see ab definition? I'm currently at 12% and would
like to get it down to 8 or 9. Is LC enough or should I go low-carb +
low-cal (and exercise)? Thanks.


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Old June 14th, 2004, 02:01 AM
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It depends.

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to the point where I'll see ab definition? I'm currently at 12% and would
like to get it down to 8 or 9. Is LC enough or should I go low-carb +
low-cal (and exercise)? Thanks.




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Old June 14th, 2004, 02:02 AM
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It depends.


Very informative, asshole.


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Old June 14th, 2004, 02:03 AM
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Good luck then, idiot.

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"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
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It depends.


Very informative, asshole.




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Old June 14th, 2004, 02:19 AM
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GroupRateNOT! wrote:

"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
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It depends.



Very informative, asshole.


The correct response would have been "It depends on what, in
your opinion?"

Marsha/Ohio

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Old June 14th, 2004, 03:45 AM
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to the point where I'll see ab definition? I'm currently at 12% and would
like to get it down to 8 or 9. Is LC enough or should I go low-carb +
low-cal (and exercise)? Thanks.


A prevalent theory among many bodybuilders is that a cyclic ketogenic
diet (CKD) is needed to get sufficiently cut without loss of muscle mass.
You can google that to get lots of information.

I reached my ideal (lowest adult) weight, and have also wondered if I
should take the extra steps to get to that sixpack stage. However, I am
still slowly gaining strength but without gaining pounds (which means
fat is stil disppearing somewhere that I can't see), so perhaps patience
will get me closer without having to go off low carb.

Alan


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Old June 14th, 2004, 04:10 AM
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GroupRateNOT! wrote:
:: to the point where I'll see ab definition? I'm currently at 12% and
:: would like to get it down to 8 or 9. Is LC enough or should I go
:: low-carb + low-cal (and exercise)? Thanks.

You're not going to lose bf unless you manage to create a calorie deficit.
It doesn't really matter if you do it via LC, LF, or Low calorie.
Obviously, exercise will be important and you need to be concerned about
losing muscle mass.


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Old June 14th, 2004, 06:07 AM
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Depends?!? Isn't that something old people wear?

"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
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It depends.

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"GroupRateNOT!" wrote in message
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to the point where I'll see ab definition? I'm currently at 12% and

would
like to get it down to 8 or 9. Is LC enough or should I go low-carb +
low-cal (and exercise)? Thanks.






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Old June 14th, 2004, 01:19 PM
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Subject: Is Atkins + cardio & weight training enough to lower BF%...


to the point where I'll see ab definition? I'm currently at 12% and would
like to get it down to 8 or 9. Is LC enough or should I go low-carb +
low-cal (and exercise)? Thanks.


I'm not sure how many people here have recent experience with the difference
between 12% and 8% body fat. Even when I've been in great shape, I've never
gotten my body fat percentage down that low. (Great shape means lifting
weights 3-4 times a week, running 50 miles a week, and biking somewhere
between 150-200 miles a week).

Frankly, I'm surprised you can't see any definition in your abs at 12%.
I've never been down that low, but there have been times when I could see
some definition there. Instead of dieting, I'd recommend doing alot of
exercise and a ton of ab work.

Also, I'd have a hard time recommending a change of diet for anyone who was
at 12% body fat. Even if you want to see some definition in your abs, I
would recommend against dieting to get there. I have seen too many people
who start yo-yo dieting when they never needed to diet in the first place,
all because they falsely thought they needed to lose just a few pounds.
Usually this happenned to slim girls who had the crazy idea that their
thighs were fat and gross. But I've seen the same results with some folks
who got obsessed with body building for a time.

Duffy


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Old June 14th, 2004, 01:25 PM
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"Duffy Pratt" wrote in message
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Also, I'd have a hard time recommending a change of diet for anyone who

was
at 12% body fat. Even if you want to see some definition in your abs, I
would recommend against dieting to get there.



The only way to get there is through a hypocaloric diet.

Why do you give nonsensical advice when you don't have any experience or
knowledge of the subject?

Here's a clue: everybody has abdominal muscles. Most people's abs are
covered with fat and always will be. Like yours. Idiot.


 




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